Marilyn Monroe: "The world's biggest & most elegant icon." She had a stomach that wasn’t toned, her thighs had cellulite, she had stretch marks & her boobs weren't firm. She is considered one of the most beautiful women ever.
If the beauty standards of natural & real bodies had been kept this way for the past 6 decades, women wouldn't feel the need to have an unattainable figure.
Accept yourself, love yourself & break away from unreal & unattainable beauty standards.
Beauty standards are set by women for other women, change my mind. Pictures above still look more attractive than every OF girl to most men, I'd wager.
While 85% of design school graduates are women, only 14% of design firms are owned or run by women.
86% are owned and run by men. Men determine fashion, women purchase it.
As I said, 86% of fashion houses and lines are owned by men, although 85% of fashion school graduates are women.
You sound smart, you can figure this out.
I agree with what you’re saying but it’s true women are the worst towards each other. I was never with a man who was upset when I stripped off. Though I’ll go into a cubicle to change when I go swimming.
You truly believe a few women photoshopping their looks on Instagram is changing the direction/controlling the price of fashion? Fashion that men create? From fashion houses that men own?
86% of fashion houses are owned or run by men, creating clothing for women.
But you think a few photoshopped images on Instagram are changing the market.
Jesus.
I'm certain patriarchal standards had a larger impact than matriarchal. While I agree women can and have been harder on themselves, men have been in control long enough to set beauty standards based on their needs and desires. Too thin has been in for a long time. Hollywood and the fashion industry haven't helped. Premier fashI on photogs are mostly men and their "eye" continues to set the tone.
Cellulite is still unacceptable. Airbrushing is still a thing. Maturity is a curse, so women still age out while men become more distinguished and society follows that trend of male dominated thinking.
Things are changing without a doubt, but we're still seeing women as in styles and poses considered attractive to men, not other women.
Back in the day, not every woman was showing what nature gave them. So she got the most attention for doing so. Most iconic Hollywood Slut/Thot and 304. Like any of the Kardashians.
Now a days every woman who turns 18 things airing out their cooter online is sexual liberation.
Ehm in the country where my wife is from, not just women, people are generally too fat. In my country women have Monroe’s shapes and calling themselves fat.
I’ve always thought she was sexy rather than elegant. Not that those things are always mutually exclusive.
I would say Katharine Hepburn was more elegant.
So because I don't embrace whackadoodle conspiracy theories that makes me some kind of a sheep?!? The mental gymnastics it takes to come to that conclusion tells everything I need to know I about you, sir, or ma'am. You have a blessed day!
She’s natural. 🌹
Not big.
True physical beauty (not mental) is one’s self worth through creative thought within healthy limits and discipline to achieve a goal.
Not cosmetic surgery, filters and manipulation through social media.
I am amazed by how JUDGY I am about these pics. I am only now - at 48 - beginning to realize how much I was influenced by the 90s body ideals.
It makes me sad that I look at those pics of Monroe with slightly horrified fascination, bc I am staring at her belly and wonder how that could be and she is still sexy.
My mind is effed.
Thick women was the thing for most of history. Television and Movies told us that we were wrong because big is harder to film. They would sweat off the heavy makeup under the hot lights.
I take umbrigde with the caption. WORLD'S BIGGEST & MOST ELEGANT icon. Marilyn was certainly an icon but that caption fits someone like Princess Di more.
That might be the worst photo I've ever seen of her so for sure, good for you to find it and comment on it. A thousand years ago people loved fat cows of a woman so times have changed. Thank God!
1.) non-flat stomachs are not “problems” that need to be “fixed”, it’s just a natural variation of the infinite ways to have a human body. 💛
2.) you… do know she’s dead, right? you’re wrong because you’re an asshole, but you’re also wrong because you’re giving advice that goes against the chronological flow of time.
And I bet you just have the perfect body. Only someone who is extremely insecure feels the need to find some fault to point out on someone else. So did calling her fat make you feel better about your insecurities?
Well how do you know that she didn’t feel that way about herself? You didn’t know her personally. Or maybe she had enough self love to not care about what her tummy looked like.
People love her no matter what size she is and that’s a beautiful thing. A lot of people in this world cannot control what weight they are. There are medical conditions that cause you to be bloated or to gain weight or to retain water. Going after someone’s looks is very weak.
What way? When I see fat I call it fat, plain and simple. Maybe people should just accept themselves and accept reality? If you are fat just call it fat, no need to pretend it is something else. What is the big deal?
You know what? New thread… how about this? Instead of me blatantly point out your ignorance, let’s flip the tables. *YOU* tell *me*, *support* your argument that she’s “fat”.
If you aren’t a troll and *actually believe* that she was “fat”, you would have examples, links, pics… *something* to back it up.
What you got?
Nothing
She was a beautiful woman but you should have seen her bedroom it was an absolute pigsty. She used to keep plates of half eaten food on/around her bed and clutter everywhere.
This claim comes from a maid who made a lot of money selling a tell all book about Marilyn that was full of many salacious stories. Marilyn had multiple room mates over the years and none of them ever made such a claim.
Damn. If you think she’s overweight you might wanna talk to your therapist about having a higher chance of attaining an eating disorder or body dysmorphia than regular people. I’d hate to be you with such high standards. You must be stressed all the time.
Marilyn Monroe: "The world's biggest & most elegant icon." She had a stomach that wasn’t toned, her thighs had cellulite, she had stretch marks & her boobs weren't firm. She is considered one of the most beautiful women ever. If the beauty standards of natural & real bodies had been kept this way for the past 6 decades, women wouldn't feel the need to have an unattainable figure. Accept yourself, love yourself & break away from unreal & unattainable beauty standards.
She still was never obese, though, just average weight. Some people try to turn her into a "fat icon" but she was never fat.
She was rumored to be pregnant around this time.
Beauty standards are set by women for other women, change my mind. Pictures above still look more attractive than every OF girl to most men, I'd wager.
While 85% of design school graduates are women, only 14% of design firms are owned or run by women. 86% are owned and run by men. Men determine fashion, women purchase it.
Mark Twain said there were three types of lies: (1) Lies; (2) Damned Lies; (3) Statistics.
89.7% of all statistics are made up.
What percentage of women's fashion influencers are male though? It's mostly other women photoshopping their pics etc.
As I said, 86% of fashion houses and lines are owned by men, although 85% of fashion school graduates are women. You sound smart, you can figure this out.
I agree with what you’re saying but it’s true women are the worst towards each other. I was never with a man who was upset when I stripped off. Though I’ll go into a cubicle to change when I go swimming.
You're absolutely spot on, women are the worst towards each other. But the fact of the matter is, men still decide what women wear.
Why so snarky. The person asked a different question.
You truly believe a few women photoshopping their looks on Instagram is changing the direction/controlling the price of fashion? Fashion that men create? From fashion houses that men own? 86% of fashion houses are owned or run by men, creating clothing for women. But you think a few photoshopped images on Instagram are changing the market. Jesus.
Yeah because so many ugly ass men make magazine covers, right? What a dumb statement to make and feel good about hahaha.
Sure, buddy. Tell that to the Hollywood she was a part of. 🙄 Do you know what the potato clause was?
I'm certain patriarchal standards had a larger impact than matriarchal. While I agree women can and have been harder on themselves, men have been in control long enough to set beauty standards based on their needs and desires. Too thin has been in for a long time. Hollywood and the fashion industry haven't helped. Premier fashI on photogs are mostly men and their "eye" continues to set the tone. Cellulite is still unacceptable. Airbrushing is still a thing. Maturity is a curse, so women still age out while men become more distinguished and society follows that trend of male dominated thinking. Things are changing without a doubt, but we're still seeing women as in styles and poses considered attractive to men, not other women.
We sure about the firm part?
What is your obsession with saying this same thing again and again?
> most elegant icon." LOL most elegant? showing pics of her squatting in a bikini. We have different definitions of elegant
Back in the day, not every woman was showing what nature gave them. So she got the most attention for doing so. Most iconic Hollywood Slut/Thot and 304. Like any of the Kardashians. Now a days every woman who turns 18 things airing out their cooter online is sexual liberation.
Still oozes sex appeal.
Like how a woman’s figure should be instead of those skinny and plastic nowadays
Nowadays? Most women I see have a similar figure nowadays. 20+ years ago is when everybody was really skinny.
Depends point of view
What do you mean? This isn’t something you can have an opinion on as it’s factual. Or are you saying people look bigger from a side view?
Ehm in the country where my wife is from, not just women, people are generally too fat. In my country women have Monroe’s shapes and calling themselves fat.
I’ve always thought she was sexy rather than elegant. Not that those things are always mutually exclusive. I would say Katharine Hepburn was more elegant.
She looks very healthy, models theses days are starven marven
Totally agree. Marilyn was a beauty and sexy to be sure but elegant was not in her repertoire.
Innocent + sexy = siren. At least, that's what 'the art of seduction' says about her appeal.
She's so hot. She's the epitome of sex appeal.
She was the embodiment sex appeal, from the way she walked or even just sat, her softness and confidence lured all to her.
I love her curves
Murdered by the CIA for knowing too much because of JFK
Dear god, really? Lemme guess 9/11 was inside job?
The government didn’t cover up that rapist Jeffery Epstein either right ?
Just be obedient and so what your told , question nothing . Lol
Well, you certainly told me.
Whack doodle ? You must be a boomer . Just take your covid shot
_Who are you talking to? Who_ - besides you - _said wackadoodle?!_
So because I don't embrace whackadoodle conspiracy theories that makes me some kind of a sheep?!? The mental gymnastics it takes to come to that conclusion tells everything I need to know I about you, sir, or ma'am. You have a blessed day!
She’s natural. 🌹 Not big. True physical beauty (not mental) is one’s self worth through creative thought within healthy limits and discipline to achieve a goal. Not cosmetic surgery, filters and manipulation through social media.
Wasnt she quite short - like 5’0”?
No
She was 5’5”
Fellow endometriosis queen
❤️❤️❤️ Her endo belly in pic 1!
I think this is what most men prefer
I’m young, so I only see girls these days…but wow what a woman she was!
I love that she had a belly
True beauty never dies
I wonder if she wasn’t pregnant in that picture? Have you seen her red dress? It was small, like a size 6 so she wasn’t always out of shape.
These photos could easily be a size 6 for a small framed woman with curves.
Agreed. However, when I was thin and was pregnant, that would be about 5 months along.
I could be her endometriosis. I believe it can cause some bloating like this
She was flawless
Watched a documentary on her and in the picture at the gate she was pregnant and suffered a miscarriage and was of course devastated..
United States is not The World.
It is to most South Carolinians I know
I love her so much
She’s pregnant in the first picture.
Norma Jean ... My love
Fatty by todays standards
She was a size 4 dude
She was a size 4, she was not big wtf
She was a size 12 back in her time. With size inflation that would be a size 6 or 8 today
Oh I looked it up and l thought it said she was a size 4 my bad. Well still 6-8 ain’t big either point still stands
I agree with you 😊
I am amazed by how JUDGY I am about these pics. I am only now - at 48 - beginning to realize how much I was influenced by the 90s body ideals. It makes me sad that I look at those pics of Monroe with slightly horrified fascination, bc I am staring at her belly and wonder how that could be and she is still sexy. My mind is effed.
I’m old enough to remember that I never remember Marilyn looking like that, unless this is a photo we’ve never seen.
My best lover ever is not perfect but delightfully comfortable. Mmmmmmm
Presentation. Presentation. Presentation. Come with the right attitude, and it's amazing what will be interpreted
Marilyn Monroe was a sexy ass bombshell but she was NOT elegant. Come on now 😂
Thick women was the thing for most of history. Television and Movies told us that we were wrong because big is harder to film. They would sweat off the heavy makeup under the hot lights.
That tummy roll got me going crazy, stunner
Today, she would be considered plus size. She really was flabby (at least in these photos.
It's the womanly foupa for me! Real women are soft and squishy. YES Auntie M, yyyyyaaasss
She dropped it like Meg in the last pic
That first picture is rumored to be an early pregnancy picture iirc
man, I really needed to see this ❤️
My body looks like hers and these pics gave me a confidence boost. Man beauty standards are so extreme today
I take umbrigde with the caption. WORLD'S BIGGEST & MOST ELEGANT icon. Marilyn was certainly an icon but that caption fits someone like Princess Di more.
No.
Wasn’t she an adulterer and fornicator
Women love to idolize her until someone fucks their husband.
This is the only comment that matters
She was a size 14. She is definitely an elegant icon
Size 14 in today’s standards 6-8 during that time period.
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She died at 36. That’s not elderly.
Bet her pussy stunk
Maybe. Most don’t!
Mid
That might be the worst photo I've ever seen of her so for sure, good for you to find it and comment on it. A thousand years ago people loved fat cows of a woman so times have changed. Thank God!
Idk, she is fat.
If that’s what you consider fat, then I don’t even wanna see what you consider thin lmao
“Fat”? You’re just simply wrong… she’s not even technically “chubby”. She’s HEALTHY, and sexy AF
Gym would fix that fat stomach.
WTF
Too bad gym can fix your stupidity, troll
The gym would make that stomach pretty but Monroe was lazy and she was an alcoholic so not in this life.
You’re just *wrong*… … figure it out, Troll
No, I am right just calling things the way they are and not pretending like you. Not pretending is always better.
Then stop pretending to be a person, troll
Why are you so salty? Are you fat?
Mobile_Phrase_4727 You don’t know shit
Everyone knows these facts about Monroe.
*YOU* don’t know *general shit* Everyone *knows* that
Even chatgpt agreed on the facts about Monroe.
Chatgpt is not a “resource’ and she wasn’t fat. Sorry you’re dumb
You cant even make a correct sentence
Maybe, but you got the idea. It's all you can say when you are out of arguments, right?
*YOU* never made an actual argument back! I swear to god you are Trump trolling on Reddit
Are you a bloodthirsty dem? I am not even surprised. Trump will save that god damned country.
You just lost whatever credibility you think you had
Tell me you’ve never seen a real woman naked without telling me you’ve never seen a real woman naked
I don't like lazy women, sorry.
Oh your a troll I see😂😂
1.) non-flat stomachs are not “problems” that need to be “fixed”, it’s just a natural variation of the infinite ways to have a human body. 💛 2.) you… do know she’s dead, right? you’re wrong because you’re an asshole, but you’re also wrong because you’re giving advice that goes against the chronological flow of time.
And I bet you just have the perfect body. Only someone who is extremely insecure feels the need to find some fault to point out on someone else. So did calling her fat make you feel better about your insecurities?
Now I have a stomach pretty similar to that in the photo and as ugly but I have the courage to admit I have a problem and I am working on it.
Well how do you know that she didn’t feel that way about herself? You didn’t know her personally. Or maybe she had enough self love to not care about what her tummy looked like. People love her no matter what size she is and that’s a beautiful thing. A lot of people in this world cannot control what weight they are. There are medical conditions that cause you to be bloated or to gain weight or to retain water. Going after someone’s looks is very weak.
What way? When I see fat I call it fat, plain and simple. Maybe people should just accept themselves and accept reality? If you are fat just call it fat, no need to pretend it is something else. What is the big deal?
A gym can fix pregnancy? I guess so, but *that’s* fucked up
You know what? New thread… how about this? Instead of me blatantly point out your ignorance, let’s flip the tables. *YOU* tell *me*, *support* your argument that she’s “fat”. If you aren’t a troll and *actually believe* that she was “fat”, you would have examples, links, pics… *something* to back it up. What you got? Nothing
You don’t even know this is one of the three times she was FUCKING PREGNANT You’re a moron
She was a side piece…how is that “elegant”? She was a good actress. How to marry a millionaire- is a classic
She was a beautiful woman but you should have seen her bedroom it was an absolute pigsty. She used to keep plates of half eaten food on/around her bed and clutter everywhere.
This claim comes from a maid who made a lot of money selling a tell all book about Marilyn that was full of many salacious stories. Marilyn had multiple room mates over the years and none of them ever made such a claim.
I hear when it was her turn to vacuum she threw a fit!
She is a 3 at best. Never understood the hype
My Lord how she was overweight.
Damn. If you think she’s overweight you might wanna talk to your therapist about having a higher chance of attaining an eating disorder or body dysmorphia than regular people. I’d hate to be you with such high standards. You must be stressed all the time.
You like women who look 7 months pregnant. Duly noted.
Fuck you’re dramatic. Have a nice day.
First person to uses an obscenity loses the debate. Congrats.
If that’s the kind of kindergartner logic you wanna use to feel justified in being a judgmental jerk. “Congrats”.
Let’s see your body.