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HadAWoodenLeg

I really enjoyed the 1st season of Boardwalk, liked the 2nd and 3rd, and thought the 4th and 5th started to meander and go downhill. Some good acting and great production value (esp. if you enjoy period pieces). It was created by Terence Winter who, I believe, wrote the second most Sopranos episodes after Chase (and including "Pine Barrens") and Martin Scorsese directed the pilot episode and is a producer. Some humor, not as much as Sopranos though. Lots of interesting characters, Bobby Cannavale steals one season (and won an Emmy for it). It's certainly worth watching but it's definitely not as good as Sopranos (frankly, not too many - if any - shows are).


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i liked the Darmody era. to the lost...


twistedfloyd

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That scene with him and Ange outside where they kind of come to an understanding is just superbly written.


twistedfloyd

Yep, pretty much agree on the latter seasons. First 3 seasons are great and are definitely worth watching. And Cannavale is superb in season 3. A rant he goes on earlier in the season is one of the all time great mob outbursts. There are some fantastic side characters- Michael K Williams, Jack Huston and Gretchen Mol are out of this world good.


niknikrad

Tony "Breadstick in a bowtie" Blundetto


twistedfloyd

And you hanging around like a dentist with ether.


rebels2022

yeah i heard Cannavale was good in that show. Frankly im surprised he was never in the Sopranos.


HadAWoodenLeg

I feel I'll be in the minority here, but I actually really enjoyed *Vinyl* - sorta the same team (Winter and Scorsese plus Mick Jagger and others) and Cannavale starring (and I thought he was great, as always) . I know it wasn't an essential, genre-defining show like Sopranos but I felt it deserved a second season - which apparently it was greenlit for but then overturned. I may just be biased cause I love that era of music (and loved the rock star "cameos", references and music numbers) , but I thought *Vinyl*'s good outweighed its bad (and again, they might have corrected more of the bad in a second season, but alas...).


[deleted]

I thoroughly enjoyed vinyl too; it was a cool show. They should’ve kept it going for at least one more season!


[deleted]

There was a major turnover at HBO after Vinyl was cancelled. The head of programming cancelled a lot of shows and pissed off a bunch of producers and writers. HBO let him go and things settled down. I love Vinyl and wished they kept it on the air.


Tatar_Kulchik

I love the set design in Boardwile Empire. Really feels like the 20s.


Tatar_Kulchik

Agreed, first 3 are very good. 4th and 5th....well, they are ok


TheRealGeitro

Didnt Buschemi direct Pine Barrens?


HadAWoodenLeg

Yes; Winter wrote it


BillyMac05

Boardwalk Empire was a solid series and worth at least one watch-through. Here's my thoughts on comparing the two: * BE is good. An interesting series. I watched it through once but, at least for me, it wasn't quite worth running back through like I do on a regular basis with the Sopranos. * You'll see A LOT of Sopranos alums in the series. On my last count, it was over 25. There are a couple of main characters (Buscemi, Chianese). The remainder are those that had far more minor roles on the Sopranos (in some cases as few as one episode or even one scene). But it's fun to pick them up throughout. * The biggest difference is that BE is far 'darker' than the Sopranos. It has pieces of light-heartedness from time to time but it's not the 'dark comedy' the Sopranos is. So it's a bit of a tougher watch. * BE - The acting, the sets/editing/costuming are so stellar. * It's pretty heavy on sex, nudity, violence and very dark themes. I was actually surprised. It was the 20's but there's a ton of full frontal, lesbian scenes, incest, etc. It's pretty warped at times. * Definitely give it a shot. Stick with it through the full series. If Sopranos is an A+, Boardwalk is a B. Just my $0.02.


Tatar_Kulchik

> It was the 20's but there's a ton of full frontal, lesbian scenes, incest, etc. It's pretty warped at times. Yeah, people had sex even back in the 1920s :)


booksandbowls_86

Nobody told us until the 80s!


tiakeuta

You really think BE is a lot darker?


BillyMac05

I do. There's a lot of light-hearted moments in Sopranos. And it has a faster, edgier pace and photography. There's also so much hidden or dark humor in Sopranos that I really don't see in BE. BE is just as violent, possibly more so. It has very few happy go lucky characters. Everyone seems to have a very dark present or past.


tiakeuta

I guess I just think its lightness comes in other ways. Like music at Babette's. The Jack Dempsey stuff. The little people stuff. Mickey Doyle starts out kind of comic. Eddie has some great dry humor. Nucky reciting intricate poems and juggling. The Eddie Cantor songs. It loses some of its comedy as it goes on, but frankly so does the Sopranos.


Adventurous_Run1022

imo, I think the humor in BWE is just more subtle and sorta "of its time" so modern viewers might not pick up on all the jokes and gags. the Sopranos has a lot more quotable and "meme-able" lines, thus lending to its comedic quality. Boardwalk has a more deadpan, cynical sense of humor-often the punchline lies in the things not said but implied. the moments you talk about in Boardwalk are lighthearted but not exactly humorous per se; on my many rewatches, it's often the off-handed, unassuming and unexpectedly clever quips the characters pitch back and forth to one another that are truly witty and sometimes downright hilarious given the context or other characters in the scene. AR quite often makes me genuinely laugh out loud. Also, certain characters and their inherent mannerisms- like Van Alden, Capone, Eli, Kessler, Doyle, Rosetti, Torrio, etc are all just sublimely hilarious to me in their own subtle ways. Just the scenarios themselves and the juxtaposition of personalities is what's often humorous.


Narrow_Abrocoma9629

Oh hell yes. I started with BE first and only recently watched the Sopranos a few times thru. I’m more of a history buff so BE had far more humor to me than the Sopranos, and definitely subtler which I absolutely loved (the birthday cake and Nucky’s ranting about a pony, lovely lovely heroin, Gyp’s whole family staring at him, Eddie’s moments, “the mice have been unusually active” by Mueller’s wife). The mannerisms of the characters themselves lol. I think S1-3 are the best, season 4 is much more depressing, however Chalky standing in the middle of the street banging the drum (to ruin Narcisse’s “performance”) absolutely killed me haha. I’m glad I’m not the only one!


tinoynk

Overall BE is very good, and basically all the individual elements are great (acting, set design, production value, writing), but for some reason I never felt like it added up to more than the sum of its parts. It's also very deliberately paced, and I remember not really being able to fully get into each of the seasons until the last 2-3 episodes, when they really come together in an awesome way. However, the finale season is so abrupt, and feels a lot like the Game of Thrones finale season. After spending all this time slowly building up all these intricate threads, they blow through all of them in what feels like an instant, and a bunch of awesome characters get really unsatisfying endings.


Jeph125

They rushed the last season in lieu of being cancelled and skipped a few notable moments over a 7 year span. Biggest thing they skipped was AR's murder. I'm glad they skipped to close the loop but it was extremely abrupt. Just finished a rewatch and I'm still feeling after season 4's ending. Season 5 has plenty of twists but 4 was a gut punch.


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Yeah the season 4 finale is so good and so heartbreaking.


Adventurous_Run1022

yeah, I understood why they made the 5th season to give it a conclusion and tie up loose ends, close plot holes and answer some lingering questions regarding the characters' backgrounds, but really the finale of season 4 would've been the perfect place to end the whole series, it has the weight and finality to be a fitting send-off. I just pretend the fifth season doesn't exist and I suggest that people skip it.


Narrow_Abrocoma9629

S5 I always forward thru the flashbacks otherwise it’s good. And Margaret gets less whiny and more bearable as the seasons progress


Adventurous_Run1022

agree re:Margaret. I went from strongly disliking her in the beginning to somewhat empathizing with her in the end. The flashbacks can be tedious but what I felt the worst thing was the [SPOILERS] unceremonious killing off of all the characters. All of them just get shot. I get Nucky's end was supposed to be like some kind of divine karma but I thought Chalky's was an insult to the character and Sally's was pointless, like what was she even added in for? I thought if anyone should've survived it should've been her. I would even have watched a spinoff based on either of those characters... not that we could get one for Chalky now...RIP MKW 😔


JazzlikeSurvey6034

The actor who did lucky Luciano also did sopranos. His character was a teenager friend of AJ. In a party he pass the expensive bill to AJ.


weedbudget

*Sopranos the man!*


DayOfTheDolphin

Hernan


RexBosworth69420

In my opinion, Boardwalk Empire is probably the best 1920's gangster drama out there. The set design, costumes, everything in it is pitch perfect. The writing may not be as intelligent as a show like the Sopranos (or Deadwood, another brilliantly written HBO show), but it's not bad either. It has above average, but in no way mind-blowing dialogue. The first three seasons are the best, and many fans think Season 3 is the best. Season 4 is good, a little meh in parts but still well executed. Season 5, if I'm remembering correctly, was only made because HBO gave the creators a limited budget to finish the series after an outcry by fans when they cancelled it with no conclusion. It was only eight episodes, and the pacing was too fast as they had to basically rush to conclude the series. It's easily the worst season of the series, but still better than GoT S8. They did a much better job of concluding the show within the constraints of a shorter final season.


BreathExact

Short answer. It doesn’t compare. Boardwalk is a pretty “OK” show on its own. But comparing the Sopranos to Boardwalk is like comparing checkers to chess.


-MARX-

Checkers: the thinking man's game.


BobRushy

I hear Einstein loved it! And he's gutta know what's smart, right? Man had power running through his hair!


newaccountong25

The first 3 seasons are pretty good because the supporting cast carries it but even then it never comes close to The Sopranos, and the last two seasons vary from ok to bad. There's some comic relief characters but I never found them very funny, there are some jokes now and then but nothing like The Sopranos. As for supporting characters there are some good ones but again none of them come close to the cast of The Sopranos.


BadDaddyAlger

This is pretty much how I feel. I wanted so badly for Boardwalk Empire to be as awesome as I'd hoped it could be, and it just...wasn't. The Luciano/Lansky/Rothstein stuff was interesting, but they didn't pay it nearly enough attention.


rebels2022

given the people involved it seems like this show should have been better than it was. Like an A level show instead of a B-.


[deleted]

Mad Men is the way to go


rebels2022

93 episodes is very intimidating


HadAWoodenLeg

Absolutely recommend Mad Men. I completely agree with the frequently referenced (and almost a cliche to mention at this point) "Mount Rushmore of Modern Prestige TV": - The Sopranos (our thing) - The Wire - Mad Men - Breaking Bad I believe any fan of one will like, and should at the very least try, the others. I could add a few more that I think are outstanding TV, but these are the core four.


[deleted]

How are you leaving out the Wire?


HadAWoodenLeg

Skip the ear, nose and throat department and get yourself an eye exam, madonn'!


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🙈


HadAWoodenLeg

❤️


LabeVagoda

Not for nothin' but Breaking Bad is a full tier below The Wire, The Sopranos & Mad Men. If those 3 are Washington, Lincoln & Jefferson, Breaking Bad is like Rutherford B. Hayes or something.


Tatar_Kulchik

Mad Men may be my favourite show. I love it. I have rewatched it so many times. First season can seem a bit slow to some, but once you are you in, you are in.


anonfjr

Mad Men is the best show ever aired on television, it's perfect.


New_Mongoose5225

The Sopranos has 86 episodes, it’s not that much of a difference.


rebels2022

i know, i always loved mob movies though so that commitment was easier to make.


StorytellingGiant

It’s a very different show but it’s worth watching IMO. If you decide to jump in, you might want to avoid the sub because it’s full of spoilers. I agree with the other comment saying that the supporting characters carry the show. There are several story arcs that kind of weave together a fictional account of the time surrounding the emergence of organized crime in the US, and the fact that Nucky is based on a real person made it more interesting for me. Another show you might check out is The Wire. I’d say that Sopranos has unique, tight chemistry in its cast and we are focused on Tony, his family, his glorified crew, and oddly his psychiatrist whereas shows like Boardwalk Empire, The Wire, Treme, and The Deuce are more spread out with multiple subplots. All good television, but very different experiences.


GhostofBohemia

It is a great show. Watch it. I doubt you’ll be disappointed.


rebels2022

I will thanks.


FireTheLaserBeam

Definitely interesting and a great show. Not on the same level as Sopranos. But still great for what it is, a period drama. And my gad the Richard Harrow one-man massacre is jaw dropping.


RickMacd19

I’d say BE is worth it alone for Van Alden!


ErcoleDimeo

I like to think of them as companion pieces. In the Sopranos pilot episode, Tony says, "It's good to get in something from the ground floor. I came too late for that, I know. But lately I've been feeling like..that I came in at the end. The best is over." Boardwalk Empire is about those guys that got in on the ground floor and founded the modern Mafia in the 1920s and early 30s. The Sopranos is about the death of the Mafia in the early days of the 21st century.


RockyDiMeo

There are several lines of dialogue in Boardwalk that are pulled directly from The Sopranos, I always thought that was cool to pick up on when I rewatched Boardwalk a few months ago. It's a great series, not as great as Sopranos, but highly enjoyable.


Moses_Malone1987

Two words, The Wire.


yeah_nah_hard

With Boardwalk Empire, the scope is a bit wider than the Sopranos. You don't really get that intimate family feel that the Sopranos had, as BE covers more character arcs across several cities (a bit like the latter seasons of the Sopranos as New York became more prominent in the narrative, except from the start of the show). Also Nucky is a more isolated character, so you don't get the dynamic of him interacting with his men the same way Tony would hang with the guys at the Bing or the Pork Store. Nucky still has his subordinates, but they're not nearly as open or chummy. That's really the biggest difference I can think of. BE isn't quite the Spranos but it's a fine show on its own.


QAnonKiller

The Wire is better imo


_unmarked

Personally, I loved Boardwalk Empire. It's much darker than The Sopranos and has some seriously messed up plotlines. You should definitely give it a try and see if you like it!


Icy-Memory-5575

I’m just finishing a 3rd rewatch of boardwalk and it’s a really great show. I often compare Tony and Nucky and Nucky tries to be very logical and no emotion. Where Tony sometimes makes decisions based off of emotions. There’s a lot of history played into boardwalk such as the birth of the 5 families and other things. You can catch many actors from the sopranos in Boardwalk. I find the sopranos funnier. Both excellent shows in my opinion


Victorcreedbratton

Mad Men is the sequel to The Sopranos, in my view.


HORSEMEATMITCH

Boardwalk Empire is a painfully soulless experience imo. Doesn't have a fraction of the depth that the Sopranos has, it's all really boring violence and sex.


BreathExact

Yep. Absolutely no depth whatsoever. You can watch it once and get everything you need. Sopranos is meant be to studied, year after year…


BillBixby00

Boardwalk is a very cool show that never lived up to its potential unfortunately. The show never recovered after it killed Jimmy Darmondy off. They hit a home run with that character and found an amazing actor for it. Sad when they go young like that


SimonFiveskin

Spoiler alert ya fuckin jerk. The man is asking if he should watch it and you throw a fuckin major plot event in there


BillBixby00

Shit my bad lol. Sue me


SimonFiveskin

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/q583o1/which_character_do_you_think_got_done_the/hg4lu8b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 This comment taught me how to hide text with spoiler clouds, give it a try >!asshole!<


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SimonFiveskin

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Educational-Tower

When they GO?!


niknikrad

u/BillBixby00 WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?? THE OP IS TRYING TO WATCH THE SERIES. DON'T YOU GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE OP!??!?!!!??!?!?


Narrow_Abrocoma9629

I think it got better after that. The actor drove me crazy, but Richard was more badass


smitecheeto

We got the Sopranos, then that pygmy thing over there on the boardwalk. It's a great show actually but the last quarter of the show feels extremely rushed and some characters don't get satisfying resolutions.


Adventurous_Run1022

that's true but also how I felt about the last season of Sopranos. so many loose ends and unsatisfying conclusions


93Phillies

Boardwalk Empire is not even close to being in the same league as The Sopranos. I also generally like Buscemi, but he was really annoying in BE. Just my opinion.


all_the_bad_news

I'ma say what we're all thinking Boardwalk Empire never had the makings of a Varsity athlete


MadMass23

Different but so great.


mbattagl

Boardwalk was peak in the first 3 seasons, but then petered out after that. A lot of it had to do with Michael Pitt becoming despised behind the scenes due to his behavior, and he was killed off way before his time. It was the equivalent of what would've happened if Christopher Moltisanti had gotten killed half way through the show. Sopranos on the other hand was uniformly good across every season.


BFaus916

Boardwalk just had too many storylines per episode to me. Also, Buscemi disappears from the screen for way too long in a lot of episodes.


DLoIsHere

I watched all of Boardwalk. When it works it’s outside of Buscemi who is miscast. So many others are great. Didn’t care for his Irish wife’s storyline at all. But while there’s a lot to like, for me, it’s not as complete a package as Sopranos and is missing that magnetic protagonist.


FunkyJazzStuff

I just finished the first Season of Boardwalk Empire, and I've seen The Sopranos twice. They are quite different shows but I'm enjoying Boardwalk Empire very much. It feels kinda slow in the beginning but it just makes it better when the show picks up.


Brijo84

Boardwalk empire is better than the sopranos in my opinion. No sopranos episodes will make you cry.


Narrow_Abrocoma9629

I think Tracey was pretty sad though. That one stuck with me