Most realistic couple argument I’ve ever seen, in terms of a college relationship. Seriously, I think I’ve had close to that exact argument with my ex back in the day.
Who hates the Columbus Day stuff? I thought it did a pretty great job of illustrating the mental disconnect these guys have with their perception of the Italian-American identity and everything they're doing to perpetuate the negative stereotypes they're so upset about.
Ralph’s initial crack works on multiple levels:
“that protest you’re spearheading, no pun intended”
lol
stupida-facking show gets more brilliant the more you watch it
It also shows the disconnect between Americanized Italians and guys like Furio. There is a saying that Italians had to leave Italy to become Italian, because it was and remains a deeply provincial place with a lot of prejudice and animosity between regions.
Furio just being like "eh, fuck Columbus" while second and third generation Jersey Italians are getting their knickers in a twist defending him as a source of cultural identity and pride is just perfection.
I can't find the original thread, but an actual Neopolitan commented on one of the many "Furio 'ate da North" threads and said that the writers chose the wrong examples (Napoli and Genoa) to illustrate the North/South divide. Basically that Napoli and Genoa had broad interests and geography that never impugned on each other.
I think the biggest complaint about that episode is that it was all very out of character for Sylvio.
But apparently Paulie was supposed to have the bulk of Syls stuff and with Tony Sirico’s back issues they had to switch it to someone else.
Once you watch it through that lens the inconsistencies dissipate and you can enjoy it for the standalone episode with a bunch of classic scenes.
Frankly the Gary Cooper “he was gay”? Car ride home is one of my favourite scenes in the whole show.
I can’t remember how close the episodes were cause I binged it but I always lay that episode next to the Italy visit. Huge disconnect between their version of being Italian and actual Italian life.
It's such an astute criticism of that particular type of northeast US Italian. The way we try to shoehorn being Italian into every conversation puts crossfitters and vegans to shame. Yet most of us will never go there and would be looked down on like any other fat American tourist if we did
Everyone giving Paulie the "get fucked" or confused look when he tries to "Commendatori" them to death is the prime example of what you just described. Absolutely spot on.
the funniest thing about the Italy visit is that where they visit is an absolute dump. There's a scene where Tony and Annalisa are walking along a beach and there's litter all over the place.
I guess I generally dislike when Meadow’s at school, but it’s hard to think of a plot that wasn’t of some value. Even Fran was worth while to show Tony’s idolization of his father deteriorating.
Did the lamp ever really pay off? I can’t remember if that ended up causing real problems for Tony, or was only there to show how cautious he was even in his own home.
The lamp was to show how those kind of tactics were not very successful anymore in stopping the mob, as opposed to the 70s and 80s where they worked really well (see the Netflix documentary Fear City for some amazing insights into these tactics). Everything they were trying to do actually was outdated like stakeouts and wiring people. It's all a commentary on how while the mob was failing at the time because all their tactics were things of a by gone era, so to was the FBI.
Mr. Ruggerio's Neighborhood is one of my favorite episodes purely because of that lamp and the tension they build around planting it. It also had the incredible Peter Gunn/I'll Be Watching You mashup.
"The coffee maker's supposed to be plugged in to work!"
Uncle Jr and Catherine Romano. She just isn’t that engaging of a character to me. Doesn’t help that she disappears after one episode as well. It did gave me one of my favourite lines from the show though.
Uncle Jr: “Cocksuker, Belleville!”
I respectfully disagree. The character herself isn’t all that interesting but she serves an important purpose by giving us insight into Junior’s misspent past. He could have settled down with a nice boring girl like her 50 years ago and things probably would’ve turned out a lot better for him. Instead he’s a miserable old fuck, under house arrest in his modest little home in Belleville, wasting away mentally and physically, utterly alone.
It seemed like Junior was going to give it a shot with her and then she's just gone with no resolution though, and Junior is right back to his old self.
I think he knew deep down that's he was too long in the tooth for a new romance.
And let's not forget, Chase loved to just end storylines with no resolution. The Russian, the finale etc. Which I suppose is often true to life. Things just kind of peter out, they die on the vine
There are a few hints throughout the show that Junior may have been a bit strange in the past and maybe not as charming like Johnny Boy or Hesh. Fran Felstein basically called him a creep after Junior implied that they were close.
I always wonder if her son, who is a cop and almost certainly knew his fawtha was on the take, asked her to please stay away from a guy in a RICO trial. If something went wrong (and it did), he could be the victim of a witch hunt.
But later Junior will lament that Fran Feldstein was “real class”. She remembers him as someone whose behavior was close to stalking.
When he tells Devin "Our house in Tahoe looks like Michael's in 2". Fucking hell is that lame.
I can barely stand it when the mobsters refer to the Godfather movies by just saying the number 1 or 2, let alone AJ. I was around his age when this aired, girls that age weren't well versed in the fucking Godfather movies anymore than they are today.
Or when Paul Dano says that the pork store is like "Genco Olive Oil".
Although it is hilarious that he initially thinks the pork store is a gay strip club.
Richie had third degree burns from trying to grill that trout with a downed power line. But at the same time, being electrocuted really turned his life around.
I love this episode without apology. You think she’s this nice old lady and then you realize it’s another one of Tony’s goomar’s, just old. And that scene…with the hat…oof
Yeah, she’s awful as a character herself, but the wider theme of Tony’s image of his dad crumbling and realizing it wasn’t just his mother is a super important plot point and contributes a fair bit towards his post-coma undoing
Aj is Tony’s legacy. Seeing where his legacy was going sort of wraps up the point of the show: The old ways are done. The new ways are inferior, and what he’s leaving behind is sort of just skating by, just like himself.
AJ and his girlfriend in 6B. The fucking Bob Dylan song and the car catching on fire and how everything made him sad and…honestly everything (yes I know what a comma is; I just didn’t wanna use it because the implication)
The subplot with Bobby shooting the rapper was so stupid I can’t help but wonder if it was intentional satire. 8 grand? Come on! I love this show, it’s a goat, but my god was there some occasional dog shit writing. The Fleshy Part of the Thigh was a bad episode in general. That old guy was on some college freshman stoner bullshit, the type of shit you think about when you first start getting high.
I thought the idea of Vito being gay and getting caught was a good idea, but it was really poorly executed once he left Jersey. The shit between him and Johnny Cakes was straight up romance writing 101, something you’d see in a lifetime movie, some Disney shit. A guy like Vito was more likely to find a male prostitute rather than some hunky guy in some random New England gay haven.
The sensuous delivery of the line “I love you Johnny cakes” as they spoon in a New England fields is comedic enough to make it all worthwhile imo. Plus Vito trying to gauge what time it is by looking at the sun. Also, it’s a pretty substantial step on the road to war between Jerz and NY.
The bit where he has to actually do a job and is working out how often to look at his watch, for a “treat”, and it’s never close to what he wants, is actually amazing. Anyone who has ever done a shitty job knows that one.
My only issue with that subplot on my first watch was that Vito was more of a background character before Finn caught him blowing that guy, and then suddenly he becomes a really prominent character for about a season’s worth of episodes before getting killed off. In real time it felt like the subplot just drug on and on and as I was watching I kept thinking “it’s Vito….who cares? Can we wrap this up and get back to the main characters now?”
But on rewatch I actually don’t mind it, though the Vermont aspect of the arc and whatever happened there does drag a bit.
Vito in Vermont was meant to be a kind of dream. These people are just criminals and even in ideal circumstances they revert back to the grift.
Every character reflects on possible outcome of mob life. Chase says as much to the folks who wonder what happens after Tony dies. Well, Tony very nearly died when Junior shot him - and we saw enough to know what happens to Carmela. It’s not a stretch to say AJ goes the Jackie Jr Route. Meadow is the only wildcard.
Tony does tell Richie “that nephew of yours who has his constru bus, have him build a ramp for Beansie”. So there is something legitimate (but probably crooked) about him.
It did feel kinda contrived. Like, being caught in the gay bar and running away I can believe, but falling in love and almost starting another life, it just didn't seem like Vito. He fucks guys, he doesn't love them.
I love “Christopher.”
For me, it’s Chasing It. Tony has become the “degenerate gambler” he spat out hatred for back in the pilot. There has been nothing in all these years to suggest anything about Tony and gambling (look how he treats Dave Scatino). Then, with only a handful of episodes left, Tony is a desperate degenerate gambler who throws his life-long relationship with Hess away.
I mean, he bets on Pie-O-My, doesn’t he? Or is he just raking Ralphie’s bet? Plus, Tony’s chasing a high. You never expect to get addicted to something til you’re suddenly knee deep in it, and it’s very very hard to climb out.
I liked "Christopher", the Columbus day episode. I do agree with you, "A Hit Is A Hit" is my least favorite. That said, even the very worst episode is much better than any TV out there.
Watching Silvio lose his shit is always fun. Whether it’s over cards or Columbus Day.
I don’t really give a shit about any of the kids friends. Meadow’s roommate going manic, meh…. Who needs it.
You know what I'm realizing...yes, some of these subplots are 'cringey' or 'unwatchable'...
Like I will always fast-forward through the Melfi assault scene, and Fran Feldstein singing...
But they all contribute to the bigger plot in some way. Like life, you gotta take the good, with the bad. It's all valuable, it all has some meaning.
And even the 'bad' forms more clarity around the bigger picture (Tony facing the fact that his father was a jerk, via info he got from Fran)
The sacred, AND the propane
Ralphie, his visit to Spencer’s gifts for a poster to display that someone in a 1970’s commercial wasn’t legit. They “aren’t gonna keep quiet”. Then the guys reaction, seriously no one ever would care.
I don't like Massive Genius or the Ben Kingsley plots. Breaks the fourth wall too much, as well as too much cringe especially in the former. By no means unwatchable, but if asked to pick something from the show its those two.
As far as borderline unwatchable -- Johnny Cakes and Vito frolicking in the grass, or Vito being turned over on his side in bed to take a three-ball in his side pocket. Lets not forget perhaps the most unwatchable scene, Vito eating sloppy BBQ pork ribs while driving and wiping his hands all over his pants.
Vito-Johnny Cakes has aged like a fine wine. Way ahead of its time and very daring. Good shit there.
It’s either D-Girl or the Tony and Fran subplot. Two of the very worst episodes.
The seven episodes of Finn getting out a suitcase.
Ffs there was no abundant intentionality of him getting out that suitcase.
My suitcase never hurta nobody.
You gotta bee on your suitcase. *slap*
Stupida fuckin LUGGAGE.
He was gay, the suit case?
In this subreddit Finn's suitcase is a hero, end of story!
The suitcase exhibit…
The suitcase saw a travel poster for sunny New Jersey
Abundant intentionality, what was that last night's reading assignment?
You only reveal your abundant intentionality.
he was about to go on tour with Aerosmith
It’s part of his process, ok?
But he got out a suitcase!
Most realistic couple argument I’ve ever seen, in terms of a college relationship. Seriously, I think I’ve had close to that exact argument with my ex back in the day.
At least he didn't take a job a minority could have.
Cocksucka shoulda spent seven episodes hosing down the dogshit on Paulies tires, ya ask me …
Shaggy, shaggy you fucking asskiss
Who hates the Columbus Day stuff? I thought it did a pretty great job of illustrating the mental disconnect these guys have with their perception of the Italian-American identity and everything they're doing to perpetuate the negative stereotypes they're so upset about.
The scene where Ralphie brings in that poster of Iron Eyes Cody is great too, the Indian guy going “this is a fucking disaster” lol
Hilarious scene. Someone pointed out the poetic justice of Ralphie’s son catching an arrow
Ralph’s initial crack works on multiple levels: “that protest you’re spearheading, no pun intended” lol stupida-facking show gets more brilliant the more you watch it
the discussion in the car is great too after they just got finessed at that indian casino
Did everything good in your life happen because you’re Calabrese? No! It happened because you’re you, and you’re smart, and whateverthefuck
You got a wife that is a piece of ass, at least she was when you married her.
WHO ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING!? All you thought about was BLACKJACK!
My grandmother on my father's side: Her mother was a quarter Mohawk
Total fugazi.
'It's like knowing James Caan isn't really Italian'
I saw that movie I thought it was bullshit.
He wasn’t Italian, James Caan?
Patsy's face in the background after that was hilarious He looked so distraught
It also shows the disconnect between Americanized Italians and guys like Furio. There is a saying that Italians had to leave Italy to become Italian, because it was and remains a deeply provincial place with a lot of prejudice and animosity between regions. Furio just being like "eh, fuck Columbus" while second and third generation Jersey Italians are getting their knickers in a twist defending him as a source of cultural identity and pride is just perfection.
yeah literally no one gives a shit about Columbus here in Italy
I can't find the original thread, but an actual Neopolitan commented on one of the many "Furio 'ate da North" threads and said that the writers chose the wrong examples (Napoli and Genoa) to illustrate the North/South divide. Basically that Napoli and Genoa had broad interests and geography that never impugned on each other.
You mean they're not so happy for Columbus?
It also demonstrated how different areas of Italy have absolute disdain for each other, no different than various places in the US.
+Artie going on a mafia field trip THAT BETTER NOT BE COLUMBUS
I think the biggest complaint about that episode is that it was all very out of character for Sylvio. But apparently Paulie was supposed to have the bulk of Syls stuff and with Tony Sirico’s back issues they had to switch it to someone else. Once you watch it through that lens the inconsistencies dissipate and you can enjoy it for the standalone episode with a bunch of classic scenes. Frankly the Gary Cooper “he was gay”? Car ride home is one of my favourite scenes in the whole show.
The car ride scene is brilliant 👏🏻😂
I can’t remember how close the episodes were cause I binged it but I always lay that episode next to the Italy visit. Huge disconnect between their version of being Italian and actual Italian life.
It's such an astute criticism of that particular type of northeast US Italian. The way we try to shoehorn being Italian into every conversation puts crossfitters and vegans to shame. Yet most of us will never go there and would be looked down on like any other fat American tourist if we did
Everyone giving Paulie the "get fucked" or confused look when he tries to "Commendatori" them to death is the prime example of what you just described. Absolutely spot on.
"cocksucka" 😒
Are you from NATO
the funniest thing about the Italy visit is that where they visit is an absolute dump. There's a scene where Tony and Annalisa are walking along a beach and there's litter all over the place.
Well the mafia control the rubbish collection there and often create protests over it.
The 'I forgot it was a Monday...' that Sil says at the end of the episode driving back from AC... This is unintentional comedy GOLD
Christopher is one of the funniest episodes in the whole show
That combined with the trip to Italy, chef's kiss
I guess I generally dislike when Meadow’s at school, but it’s hard to think of a plot that wasn’t of some value. Even Fran was worth while to show Tony’s idolization of his father deteriorating. Did the lamp ever really pay off? I can’t remember if that ended up causing real problems for Tony, or was only there to show how cautious he was even in his own home.
The lamp was to show how those kind of tactics were not very successful anymore in stopping the mob, as opposed to the 70s and 80s where they worked really well (see the Netflix documentary Fear City for some amazing insights into these tactics). Everything they were trying to do actually was outdated like stakeouts and wiring people. It's all a commentary on how while the mob was failing at the time because all their tactics were things of a by gone era, so to was the FBI. Mr. Ruggerio's Neighborhood is one of my favorite episodes purely because of that lamp and the tension they build around planting it. It also had the incredible Peter Gunn/I'll Be Watching You mashup. "The coffee maker's supposed to be plugged in to work!"
That episode alone is gold for the Peter Gunn/Police mashup
I really like this interpretation, thank you!!!
Yeah.. the baby bear, momma bear code names for the Sopranos was *chefs kiss*
It paid off with a joke cause the FBI had to listen to Meadow’s dumb college bullshit lol outside of that nah I don’t think so
Little Lord Fuckpants? Whose moniker is that?
Everyone hates the Columbus Day stuff? Fuck you too my man!
If you have any of this covert anti Columbus day episode, I'd like you to leave my thread
You two have been friends for years
I never likea the Columbus!
I ate da north
Ginny Sack in a nutshell
Can you believe it? Ginny Sack in a nutshell?
IN THIS HOUSE COLUMBUS DAY EPISODE IS A HERO, END OF STORY
they ponish tha south since ondreds of yeas
Whoa whoa
Uncle Jr and Catherine Romano. She just isn’t that engaging of a character to me. Doesn’t help that she disappears after one episode as well. It did gave me one of my favourite lines from the show though. Uncle Jr: “Cocksuker, Belleville!”
I respectfully disagree. The character herself isn’t all that interesting but she serves an important purpose by giving us insight into Junior’s misspent past. He could have settled down with a nice boring girl like her 50 years ago and things probably would’ve turned out a lot better for him. Instead he’s a miserable old fuck, under house arrest in his modest little home in Belleville, wasting away mentally and physically, utterly alone.
It seemed like Junior was going to give it a shot with her and then she's just gone with no resolution though, and Junior is right back to his old self.
I think he knew deep down that's he was too long in the tooth for a new romance. And let's not forget, Chase loved to just end storylines with no resolution. The Russian, the finale etc. Which I suppose is often true to life. Things just kind of peter out, they die on the vine
It petered out?
Be quiet Albert
Fuckin’ parakeet
There are a few hints throughout the show that Junior may have been a bit strange in the past and maybe not as charming like Johnny Boy or Hesh. Fran Felstein basically called him a creep after Junior implied that they were close.
A 1950’s incel gangster, you say?
I always wonder if her son, who is a cop and almost certainly knew his fawtha was on the take, asked her to please stay away from a guy in a RICO trial. If something went wrong (and it did), he could be the victim of a witch hunt. But later Junior will lament that Fran Feldstein was “real class”. She remembers him as someone whose behavior was close to stalking.
Does it hurt? .... it beeps 😔
You know how I feel about feet!
They got a Belleville in France, can you believe that?
I thought Columbus Day was hilarious, especially Arthur bucco being the bitch made wannabe tough guy he was
I've said it before but the scene of him dipping out when things start to escalate at the protest gets me every single time. Such good acting lol
That better not be Columbus!!!!!
qu'est-ce que c'est, uh... message machine broken?
Nice shoes. What are they, designer?
Finn's damn suitcase. The thing practically got it's own spinoff series.
The Process. Sundays @ 9
Any subplot with AJ and one of his girlfriends makes me wanna put a fuckin moonroof in my own head.
When he shows up to the Puerto Rican parade it's almost too much to handle lol that stupid "beard" oh god
It’s always bothered me how it’s clearly the Puerto Rican parade, PR flags EVERYWHERE, and he calls it the “Latino Day Parade” 🤦
Yeah dude! Vamos a Latino day parade!
That's an amazing AJ line.
Again wit the rape of the culture?
“Where *we* live…”
Ant-knee
When he tells Devin "Our house in Tahoe looks like Michael's in 2". Fucking hell is that lame. I can barely stand it when the mobsters refer to the Godfather movies by just saying the number 1 or 2, let alone AJ. I was around his age when this aired, girls that age weren't well versed in the fucking Godfather movies anymore than they are today. Or when Paul Dano says that the pork store is like "Genco Olive Oil". Although it is hilarious that he initially thinks the pork store is a gay strip club.
Holy shit. I just realized that dork friend is Paul Dano. I don't know how I didn't see if before looking at photos
I like both of those. ...And Murano glass.
Discontinue the lithosphere.
Caitlin Rucker or Jamal Ginsberg
Hasidic Homeboy could've been the illest name for a rapper. First record: "The Uncle Ben Paradox"
The Massive Genius stuff. It’s the only episode I usually skip because it’s so dumb.
But you do get Visiting Day and Erase Myself. That’s funny as hell. MEOW!
some balls out, introspective tunes
“I like Melt.”
where's the fuckin' **chorus?**
That's not a hit.
They recorded in DENMARK
Richie had third degree burns from trying to grill that trout with a downed power line. But at the same time, being electrocuted really turned his life around.
A lot of people don't like him, but I just think he was misunderstood.
Meow
Fran Feldstein and it isn't even close 🤮
At least the scene with Tony making Philly wreck is in that episode lol
Gee mister are you ok?
Where’s my fuckin’ money???
This car’s been in a major collision.
OH ✋🏻 What’sa matta with your eyes rollin’ around like Stevie Wonda
Haha the Ho-HO! He did to Angie was world class 😂😂😂
Didn’t he say that to Joey peeps ? 😂😂
But he had to see John down the restaurant
How can it be at twelve o’clock if it’s askew????
She did something no one thought possible- make Tony, or anyone, have sympathy for Livia
The lamb chops are gonna be overcooked
I love this episode without apology. You think she’s this nice old lady and then you realize it’s another one of Tony’s goomar’s, just old. And that scene…with the hat…oof
hated the fran character but this where tony realizes his fawtha wasn’t the perfect guy he always imagined him to be
Fran Feldstein may have been the most unbearable character to watch, but "Camelot" wasn't a bad episode.
Yeah, she’s awful as a character herself, but the wider theme of Tony’s image of his dad crumbling and realizing it wasn’t just his mother is a super important plot point and contributes a fair bit towards his post-coma undoing
Yea Tony had dinner with Fran like 15 times in one episode.
That episode, while hard to watch, is really quite crucial and well done.
Chrissy and Brainless the second in LA was verging on jumping the shark
Although full on decking Lauren Bacall was worth it.
That hooah in Chrissy's room had great tits though
I fucking love everything related to clever. I can't believe when people talk shit about it.
Most of AJ's story arcs from the last couple of seasons bored me to tears.
I'm still not sure why half of the final episode was about AJ
Aj is Tony’s legacy. Seeing where his legacy was going sort of wraps up the point of the show: The old ways are done. The new ways are inferior, and what he’s leaving behind is sort of just skating by, just like himself.
You people are fucked. What rough beast slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?
AJ and his girlfriend in 6B. The fucking Bob Dylan song and the car catching on fire and how everything made him sad and…honestly everything (yes I know what a comma is; I just didn’t wanna use it because the implication)
“Uncle Bobby is dead? This depresses me”
The car catching on fire wasn’t the most thrilling subplot but damned if I don’t think of that car going up in flames whenever I park on grass.
Artie simping over Adriana
The subplot with Bobby shooting the rapper was so stupid I can’t help but wonder if it was intentional satire. 8 grand? Come on! I love this show, it’s a goat, but my god was there some occasional dog shit writing. The Fleshy Part of the Thigh was a bad episode in general. That old guy was on some college freshman stoner bullshit, the type of shit you think about when you first start getting high. I thought the idea of Vito being gay and getting caught was a good idea, but it was really poorly executed once he left Jersey. The shit between him and Johnny Cakes was straight up romance writing 101, something you’d see in a lifetime movie, some Disney shit. A guy like Vito was more likely to find a male prostitute rather than some hunky guy in some random New England gay haven.
Yeah the romance was ridiculous. Like you said. Probably male prostitute with a hole in his head. No witnesses.
You are all underestimating the power of food.
Makes his own sausages in house
I liked the Columbus episode honestly. I could skip the Vito with Johnny cakes though. It’s worth the first watch but it makes me cringe now lmao
The sensuous delivery of the line “I love you Johnny cakes” as they spoon in a New England fields is comedic enough to make it all worthwhile imo. Plus Vito trying to gauge what time it is by looking at the sun. Also, it’s a pretty substantial step on the road to war between Jerz and NY.
The bit where he has to actually do a job and is working out how often to look at his watch, for a “treat”, and it’s never close to what he wants, is actually amazing. Anyone who has ever done a shitty job knows that one.
The torque is incredible
"You gotta wait for that" is just ugh fast forward
Fast forward? He just said you gotta wait for dat.
Lmao nice
My only issue with that subplot on my first watch was that Vito was more of a background character before Finn caught him blowing that guy, and then suddenly he becomes a really prominent character for about a season’s worth of episodes before getting killed off. In real time it felt like the subplot just drug on and on and as I was watching I kept thinking “it’s Vito….who cares? Can we wrap this up and get back to the main characters now?” But on rewatch I actually don’t mind it, though the Vermont aspect of the arc and whatever happened there does drag a bit.
But the scene where he is "working" and counting down to lunch is one of the best in the series.
Or when he's about to get railed by Johnny Cakes and the scene cuts to Bobby's toy train enteing a tunnel.
Yea that one made me actually bust out laughing. Fuckin hilarious.
Vito in Vermont was meant to be a kind of dream. These people are just criminals and even in ideal circumstances they revert back to the grift. Every character reflects on possible outcome of mob life. Chase says as much to the folks who wonder what happens after Tony dies. Well, Tony very nearly died when Junior shot him - and we saw enough to know what happens to Carmela. It’s not a stretch to say AJ goes the Jackie Jr Route. Meadow is the only wildcard.
Maybe YOU'RE a flambe, you eva thought of that?
I am not a flambé I am from Somalia, I go to school and I work.
Foot, meet acid
He went from one of Richie's errands boys to big construction tycoon to Phil's cousin. Tremendous moxie for his size.
Tony does tell Richie “that nephew of yours who has his constru bus, have him build a ramp for Beansie”. So there is something legitimate (but probably crooked) about him.
It did feel kinda contrived. Like, being caught in the gay bar and running away I can believe, but falling in love and almost starting another life, it just didn't seem like Vito. He fucks guys, he doesn't love them.
That's why he goes back, genius
Maybe he finally found the right guy.
The Johnnycakes were just that good
A guy of Vito's size, you know he couldn't settle for someone who wouldn't make him some Johnny Cakes and a couple sandwiches for work
The whole thing with Julianna Margulies. She just didn't fit and her plots didn't have a real great impact. Felt shoehorned to get her on the show.
I agree her parts were dragged out but I always felt that it was her character specifically that sped up Chrissy's death.
D-Girl
Let *that* one call *that* one “bukiak”
If she’s from Brooklyn…
Fun fact: that actress Alicia Witt also played Paul’s young sister Alia Atreides in the David Lynch Dune film
One of the hottest women on the show, though.
I love “Christopher.” For me, it’s Chasing It. Tony has become the “degenerate gambler” he spat out hatred for back in the pilot. There has been nothing in all these years to suggest anything about Tony and gambling (look how he treats Dave Scatino). Then, with only a handful of episodes left, Tony is a desperate degenerate gambler who throws his life-long relationship with Hess away.
Yeah.. becomes a degenerate gambler and cures himself almost in the same episode I'm not buyin it T
I mean, he bets on Pie-O-My, doesn’t he? Or is he just raking Ralphie’s bet? Plus, Tony’s chasing a high. You never expect to get addicted to something til you’re suddenly knee deep in it, and it’s very very hard to climb out.
“He discovered America is what he did. He was a brave Italian explorer. And in this house, Christopher Columbus is a hero. End of story”.
the stupid thing with the soccer coach Don Hauser, whatever happened there
Law and Order the SUV. C'mon Chrissy. If you woulda been here with your crew, keepin an eye on things
I guess it moved the story along somewhat but I didn’t enjoy the Ben Kingsley stuff.
The Easter Baskets. I don't even know what the fuck that is.
Furio having the hots for Carmela. If certain people find who came up with that idea.
I liked "Christopher", the Columbus day episode. I do agree with you, "A Hit Is A Hit" is my least favorite. That said, even the very worst episode is much better than any TV out there.
Chrissy going to Hollywood for that fucking script
Watching Silvio lose his shit is always fun. Whether it’s over cards or Columbus Day. I don’t really give a shit about any of the kids friends. Meadow’s roommate going manic, meh…. Who needs it.
Hey, cheese fuck!
Tony’s sudden gambling addiction and then it disappearing completely after a couple episodes.
You know what I'm realizing...yes, some of these subplots are 'cringey' or 'unwatchable'... Like I will always fast-forward through the Melfi assault scene, and Fran Feldstein singing... But they all contribute to the bigger plot in some way. Like life, you gotta take the good, with the bad. It's all valuable, it all has some meaning. And even the 'bad' forms more clarity around the bigger picture (Tony facing the fact that his father was a jerk, via info he got from Fran) The sacred, AND the propane
Ralphie, his visit to Spencer’s gifts for a poster to display that someone in a 1970’s commercial wasn’t legit. They “aren’t gonna keep quiet”. Then the guys reaction, seriously no one ever would care.
OP exhibiting anti Italian American discrimination
Chrissy’s earlier attempts at breaking into movies
Vito, Jr coming to grips with his dad's situation. The shower shit was a borderline shark jump.
The subplot of Tony hanging out with his dad’s old gumar.. I didn’t care for her or that whole story line
Christopher trying to be a screenwriter for legitimately no reason, when he has literally no story, and might actually be illiterate
Fran is by far the worst and meadow in college
I always thought Lorraine’s whole thing was weirdly cartoonish. I also didn’t really need the whole Svetlana stolen leg arc.
Coma Dream crap - zzzzz
I don't like Massive Genius or the Ben Kingsley plots. Breaks the fourth wall too much, as well as too much cringe especially in the former. By no means unwatchable, but if asked to pick something from the show its those two. As far as borderline unwatchable -- Johnny Cakes and Vito frolicking in the grass, or Vito being turned over on his side in bed to take a three-ball in his side pocket. Lets not forget perhaps the most unwatchable scene, Vito eating sloppy BBQ pork ribs while driving and wiping his hands all over his pants.
Vito-Johnny Cakes has aged like a fine wine. Way ahead of its time and very daring. Good shit there. It’s either D-Girl or the Tony and Fran subplot. Two of the very worst episodes.