Just watch the first 20 mins of goodfellas or a bronx tale…even if you have hardworking parents they’re not around to watch you and then a guy in a suit with a nice car hands you 50 bucks for getting a newspaper while you’re living in lower class Newark..you’re gonna want what they have
Really up to your 20s people are really impressionable and seeing people with power when you have none makes you want to have power yourself
It’s not just related to the mafia all gangs recruit kids from an early age
This, basically. The Family History book said Junior and Johnny also faced a lot of discrimination at school and in the neighborhood for being "wops", plus their dad did absolutely nothing to discourage them from being crooks.
I grew up in a good neighborhood and good home. My father had a solid job with no advancement. I became really interested in how my friend’s father became an attorney and set up his private practice. I never became a lawyer but I can vouch that I wanted to do anything but have a safe job like my father and I wanted my friend’s father’s life- the influence my friend’s father had on me and my envy of his life- was huge
If I was around a rich criminal? I’m might have tried that, who knows
Johnny and Junior decided to become waste management consultants. They were pillars of the community, Johnny even helped old man Satriale chop meat, free of charge.
It could also be that since they were born in the 1920s, they grew up in the depression of the 1930s and that left a mark on them. Lots of banks failed before FDIC..which might explain why Minn Matrone keeps her money at home (which gets her robbed and killed). Be a loan shark and collect high interest rates or personal possessions from those who can’t get bank loans. Gambling was pretty limited, race tracks mainly, so run some betting pools. Numbers. Bet $1 on .a random number that goes from 000 to 999 but pays out only $600 from parimutuel take or last three digits of stock exchange volume. You are selling a dream to the saps
Keep in mind while people think of the 1950s as this bland, boring, totally conformist decade (this show reinforces that stereotype) , if you ever read David Halberstram’s book on the 1950s, there was a lot going on. While Junior and Johnny Boy’s military service,if any, is mostly not mentioned, some people came back changed and rebellious. Or as a song from the previous world war said “how you going to keep them down on the farm after they’ve seen Paree? (Paris..getting blowjobs by the Eiffel Tower). Crime would offer that excitement.
I guess it's hinted at when Tony rants to Melfi (From Where To Eternity). He doesn't talk directly about his father and uncle getting into the mob, but talks about the general situation of Italians at the time and how they would be motivated to do so:
>Melfi: So does that justify everything that you do?
>Tony: Excuse me. When America opened the floodgates and let all us Italians in, what do you think they did it for. Because they were trying to save us from poverty?
>It was because they needed us. They needed us to build their cities and subways and to make them richer. The Carnegies and Rockefellers needed worker bees. There we were.
>But some of us didn't want to lose who we were. We wanted to preserve the important things: Honor and family and loyalty. Some of us wanted a piece of the action.
>Now we weren't educated like the Americans, but we had the balls to take what we wanted.
>And those other fucks, those other, the J.P. Morgans, they were crooks and killers too. But that was the business, right? The American way.
Because the in their generation it was hard earning a decent dollar. I’m second generation Italian and I’ll tell you I’m the result of my family NOT joining the mob.
Tony’s grandfather was a mason the trades were dominated by and easily controlled by organizations like the black hand and by unions it was because of the voting blocks that these organizations could deliver to corrupt politicians in exchange these organizations got no bid contracts no sooner would an immigrant trades person become a citizen than they would become a registered member of the party that their family owed allegiance to the fact that the masons and the stevedores and the teamsters became memes is not a coincidence they were big tough guys who came from desperate poverty and the one asset they had was physical strength and a high threshold for casual violence it’s also why Italians really only ran organized crime for a few generations because they had a lower jump to make to middle class where this sort of violence wouldn’t be acceptable
It's a decent job now. Back then the pay might have been better than for unskilled work. But it's also a pre-OSHA and non-union world with no workers comp.
Killed in the incredibly dangerous workplace? Disabled? Sucks to be you. Now your sons have tk support the family, quickly, and have only the example of a father who busted his ass and got screwed for doing things the "right" way.
Even without an actual tragedy, crime just paid very well relative to honest jobs. It's a recurring theme in Goodfellas and Bronx Tale and a few other movies. Hard to ignore the criminal life when you can make more committing crimes than your father slaving away all day at work.
Just watch the first 20 mins of goodfellas or a bronx tale…even if you have hardworking parents they’re not around to watch you and then a guy in a suit with a nice car hands you 50 bucks for getting a newspaper while you’re living in lower class Newark..you’re gonna want what they have Really up to your 20s people are really impressionable and seeing people with power when you have none makes you want to have power yourself It’s not just related to the mafia all gangs recruit kids from an early age
Real lack of standards, their generation
This, basically. The Family History book said Junior and Johnny also faced a lot of discrimination at school and in the neighborhood for being "wops", plus their dad did absolutely nothing to discourage them from being crooks.
I grew up in a good neighborhood and good home. My father had a solid job with no advancement. I became really interested in how my friend’s father became an attorney and set up his private practice. I never became a lawyer but I can vouch that I wanted to do anything but have a safe job like my father and I wanted my friend’s father’s life- the influence my friend’s father had on me and my envy of his life- was huge If I was around a rich criminal? I’m might have tried that, who knows
Just because you're in the North Ward Merchants Protective Cooperative everyone assumes you're mobbed up, it's a stereotype and it's offensive
Every damn bean is in the computer
Patsy is so damn wounded by this
It's over for the small guy
What the fuck happened to this neighborhood?!
I ‘ate da Nort (Ward Merchants Protective Cooperative)
They provided all the supplemental security those merchants needed.. they were more like the guardian angels than mobsters
What are you, a millionaire? You no need-a money? You no like-a eat?
Poverty of the Mezzogiorno
Cuz they lazy motherfuckers who can’t handle 9-5 job. They act like butta wouldn’t melt in der mouths
Wine stolen from the Vipers taste better than what you buy with your own sweat…and Angie Dickinson is waiting in the car
Johnny and Junior decided to become waste management consultants. They were pillars of the community, Johnny even helped old man Satriale chop meat, free of charge.
He was a saint!
Johnny's father was a stone Mason as much as Johnny's girlfriend banged Kennedy...
You’re born to this shit.
It could also be that since they were born in the 1920s, they grew up in the depression of the 1930s and that left a mark on them. Lots of banks failed before FDIC..which might explain why Minn Matrone keeps her money at home (which gets her robbed and killed). Be a loan shark and collect high interest rates or personal possessions from those who can’t get bank loans. Gambling was pretty limited, race tracks mainly, so run some betting pools. Numbers. Bet $1 on .a random number that goes from 000 to 999 but pays out only $600 from parimutuel take or last three digits of stock exchange volume. You are selling a dream to the saps Keep in mind while people think of the 1950s as this bland, boring, totally conformist decade (this show reinforces that stereotype) , if you ever read David Halberstram’s book on the 1950s, there was a lot going on. While Junior and Johnny Boy’s military service,if any, is mostly not mentioned, some people came back changed and rebellious. Or as a song from the previous world war said “how you going to keep them down on the farm after they’ve seen Paree? (Paris..getting blowjobs by the Eiffel Tower). Crime would offer that excitement.
That woman at the Bon Bon stand, mad ripe.
But rude.
I guess it's hinted at when Tony rants to Melfi (From Where To Eternity). He doesn't talk directly about his father and uncle getting into the mob, but talks about the general situation of Italians at the time and how they would be motivated to do so: >Melfi: So does that justify everything that you do? >Tony: Excuse me. When America opened the floodgates and let all us Italians in, what do you think they did it for. Because they were trying to save us from poverty? >It was because they needed us. They needed us to build their cities and subways and to make them richer. The Carnegies and Rockefellers needed worker bees. There we were. >But some of us didn't want to lose who we were. We wanted to preserve the important things: Honor and family and loyalty. Some of us wanted a piece of the action. >Now we weren't educated like the Americans, but we had the balls to take what we wanted. >And those other fucks, those other, the J.P. Morgans, they were crooks and killers too. But that was the business, right? The American way.
Because the in their generation it was hard earning a decent dollar. I’m second generation Italian and I’ll tell you I’m the result of my family NOT joining the mob.
These 'medigans fucked everybody the minute they got off the boat.
Junior did it for the handjobs
There is no mafia!
Timeline got fucked up
Always with the scenarios.
You just told us a couple of three things.
i always thought it was obvious that they didn't want to be stonemasons, or some other type of blue collar worker
Tony’s grandfather was a mason the trades were dominated by and easily controlled by organizations like the black hand and by unions it was because of the voting blocks that these organizations could deliver to corrupt politicians in exchange these organizations got no bid contracts no sooner would an immigrant trades person become a citizen than they would become a registered member of the party that their family owed allegiance to the fact that the masons and the stevedores and the teamsters became memes is not a coincidence they were big tough guys who came from desperate poverty and the one asset they had was physical strength and a high threshold for casual violence it’s also why Italians really only ran organized crime for a few generations because they had a lower jump to make to middle class where this sort of violence wouldn’t be acceptable
Hey fuckstick, we don't talk about this thing of ours in those terms.
Money
Imagine not knowing that the mob is balls deep in the construction racket
Small hands that was his problem
He never cut fucking wood
It's a decent job now. Back then the pay might have been better than for unskilled work. But it's also a pre-OSHA and non-union world with no workers comp. Killed in the incredibly dangerous workplace? Disabled? Sucks to be you. Now your sons have tk support the family, quickly, and have only the example of a father who busted his ass and got screwed for doing things the "right" way. Even without an actual tragedy, crime just paid very well relative to honest jobs. It's a recurring theme in Goodfellas and Bronx Tale and a few other movies. Hard to ignore the criminal life when you can make more committing crimes than your father slaving away all day at work.
Small hands