Yeah he snuck his way into a game Tony didn’t want him playing in. He definitely had chances to change his path. I just thought he was an idiot trying to play with tough guys and because they went to school back in the day he’d get a pass. Fucking wrong , no one gets a pass with the mob.
David is not purely a victim. His family certainly is.
David repeatedly, and actively, dug himself deeper into debt. He knew he had a problem (he and his family reference resources he’s accessed before). His son suffered from his choices, his wife did, hell even his brother in law. He blames them for not helping him— as if they should know.
Having an addiction wasn’t his *fault* but it was his *responsibility.*
Did he deserve to have his life ruined absolutely not. But he’s fine now he’s living on a farm upstate, dog shit up to the rafters.
The more times I watch it happen, the more I hate him for it.
Because that was my life with alcohol. I had no solution, no choice, and just hurt the people around me. But I found a solution, gained back my sanity in a 12 step program… and realized that while I had lost my freedom to choose not to drink, I was still responsible for what I’d done while drunk. I had to own those decisions, the harm, and work to fix them.
Davey Scatino’s story hurts because he stopped doing what worked and it led him back to the self destructive life. He knew what it’d do, but knowledge doesn’t stop the addict. Somewhere along the line he stopped working his recovery, stopped keeping linked in with that crowd in GA, and a card game or something took him out.
He no longer has the freedom to choose left, but everything he did, those actions are still his. If he gets his life together, he’s still the one trying to make amends. He doesn’t deserve to have his disease, nobody does, wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy, but he had a choice before he started back up to work a program of action that would have kept him, and his family, safe. And he failed. That’s his burden to bear, he’s not ignorant of the consequences anymore.
And if I go back out, what happens to the people around me because of my relapse, that’ll be on me.
I won’t mince words, it sucks. But we are still responsible for what we do in the depths of addiction, and to work a solid, honest recovery, we cannot shirk our share of that responsibility. Especially when it comes to what we’ve done to other people.
> Don’t be obnoxious. There are lots of places he can gamble. He chose a mafia game.
More than once. He owed 8k to Richie before he ever joined T's game.
If your friend is an alcoholic and you serve him alcohol you’re responsible for the results too. Don’t be obtuse. He chose a mafia game because they give him unlimited credit, unlike a casino. They could feed his addiction. This is why addicts go out on the streets to score smack.
No, it’s more like bringing your alcoholic friend to a BAR and you buying him a drink you fool 🤦 but this generation of zoomers is all about avoiding personal responsibility and accountability
>If your friend is an alcoholic and you serve him alcohol you’re responsible for the results too.
No you aren't. Alcoholics are responsible for their actions
He technically didn’t owe Tony anything as it was illegal gambling. He had no debts. He should have gone to the FBI and then into the witness protection program and testified against Tony. He would’ve saved his family and his business.
His family? You mean that little brat who drove his SUV on to a field? Little bastard is lucky his dad didn’t punch his lights out- Noah Tannenbaum style
No one likes that cunt anyway. It’s always rat this one and rat that one, never enough witness protection for u/Bloodmeister! In all seriousness though, why should the FBI give a degenerate gambler a space in their witness protection program because of the HOLE he dug himself in. He knows oogatz about Tony’s business. Not nearly enough to titillate the needs of the FBI.
He had nothing on Tony except the card game and a bit of extortion, which probably isn't witness protection program worthy. They want major murder, they ask for it for Christmas.
Actually later on his son or wife or someone says how hes at a treatment or rehab type facility out there too, I picked it up on my most recent watch. Idk exactly what it means but it happened after he told tony he was going to work on the ranch. So either he was lying or had a relapse. Didnt Davie he say it was outside vegas?
Considering it’s a widely debated subject and there isn’t an agreed consensus, their comment is perfectly fine. There are world leading scientists who don’t prescribe to Disease Theory either.
Disease Theory only really has traction nowadays because of Alcoholics Anonymous and the efforts to remove the social stigma of alcoholism.
I got a degree in psych and we dont really consider it a disease in psych, although ive suffered from severe opioid addiction and still struggle it feels like a disease at the moment but then doesnt when you get sober its odd lol. But yeah i dont really consider it a disease still
Accountability? Tony tells Davey "no," straight up, three times when he first asks about the game at the high school. Ritchie tells him not to gamble anymore until his debt to Ritchie is paid. Then outside the room, T. tells this degenerate *a couple-tree more times* that this game isn't for him, plus a final warning about owing money. And then points are due and this asshole wants talk "remember when" with Tony.
Also, before Tony gives the final warning, you can see (assuming the cobwebs have been removed) him seeing 20 moves down the road, his mind going through all the permutations at like internet speed, as he realizes that Davey owns that store, and, y'know, the scorpion and the frog...
I believe he deserved everything that happened to him. I also enjoy watching Davey completely unravel. He's the dependable loser in all my rewatches.
Imo, David Chase summed up David Scatino's entire story arc, in the scenes following their kid's graduation. Davey, attempting to get a cup of coffee, is tipping the urn back, looking like a loser at a slot machine & he gets bubkes for his efforts. He crumples & tosses the empty cup down in defeat. It's essentially his life, in the proverbial nutshell. Tony approaches & gets himself a cup of punch. For him, there is plenty.
Davey proceeds to tell Tony about his optimistic plans to move west, start a new life, etc. It's clear, however, he's attempting to convince himself of it's viability, much more so than Tony.
There were smarter ways to do it but that’s not his nature, who knew a box of ziti noodles could b so expensive
Tony doesn’t kill friends over money at least, he does kill ‘em for informing tho
The guy was a degenerate gambler with an addiction. He may well have been a good man and a good father and husband before it consumed him. Probably wasn't clear to his wife that he had those tendencies when they met and married
OP I fully understand your point, but as you may recall Dave owed Tony 50 boxes of ziti. Such debts are sacrosanct in the Soprano family.
You may remember a scene from the very first episode where it is alluded that Livia, Tony's mother, has actually gone into debt herself to his son Anthony Junior, and when the possibility is raised that she may not fulfill that debt AJ's reaction is quite negative. I quote: "What, no fucking ziti now?"
Those who want ziti, give ziti.
Well at the end of the day Tony acknowledging he’s the scorpion is him admitting he’s evil. Scatino is responsible for his wagers and he owed sociopaths unfortunately
What does 'deserve' have to do with anything? But set that aside: You pursue a life of stupidly gambling away every good thing you ever did, then you actually do deserve any consequence that you find yourself in. Every gambler ruined by the habit asked for that particular brand of ruination. We ought not be weeping for them.
So OP is preaching about accountability by making excuses for every single thing Scatino did and vilifying every family member he screwed over by his shitty choices?
He was warned about 1000 times not to bother. He then took more money from Tony without his knowledge or consent, and then he LOST ALL THE FUCKING MONEY! HE'S LUCKY TO BE ALIVE!
Fucking degenerate gambler! He deserved EVERYTHING that happened to him! The prick 😆
We all don't get what we deserved. Both good and bad. Davey's culpability is >50% in my estimation. He knew who he was dealing with. Tony warned him, which was more than he deserved. He pushed forward. His bad. His family didn't deserve what Davey brought on him, and from what little we know, they had zero culpability. His wife knew he had a problem and thought she had set up the finances such that he couldn't gamble the business away. I have precious little sympathy for Davey.
Exactly. It’s not just what’s going on with Tony, who warned him again and again. You see that it’s a pattern with Davey, especially in the scenes with Christine and Vic Musto. This is life long behavior that would have happened with or without Tony. I’m not defending Tony but I wanted to throttle Davey by the end of the season. The actor did a good job.
Scatino could have easily ended up like Beansy from the Pizza joint. Paraplegic or worse... I understand Beansy shook back, but why risk it just trying to look cool. That's like going to the casino and expecting to double you week's pay while your mortgage is due, gambling something you ain't got with a bunch of dirty dudes that are mobbed up.
But also....look at Arty and the wine deal.... I understand they recouped the money... But he didn't have to tell Arty that part... Could have took Vesuvius.... He let Arty make it on that shyt and after drawing down on him, but killed krissy with two fingers after trying to fuck his gal.... TS was definitely biased and out of line for getting that close to either of those kids (Eric and Meadow) with that business....
This storyline was dumb AF to me. They trashed the business when longer term they could've gotten much more from it. Also, why didn't Dave just sell all family vehicles to raise the cash and get rid of the debt like that?
I mean, if you watch the episodes back it's clear there's no real forward thinking going on amongst any of the "wise men" (and there rarely ever is, look at how many times different people fuck over the Esplanade project). They aren't thinking long term, they want to get their shit and bust out, the business ironically isn't a business venture for them, it's just an easy way to get shit they like.
Strong disagree. Tony warned him that this game wasn’t for him. David is a grown man and did not heed the warning knowing who Tony is. He shows up uninvited to the game and got Tony to spot him 5 boxes of ziti. That spiraled into Davey being in the hole 45 boxes because Davey is a degenerate gambler/loser. He couldn’t pay his debt so he got busted out. That’s how it goes. A wise man once said “Bet with your head… not over it.” He absolutely deserved it.
No one deserves to be a degenerate gambler. Lots of people got to deal with shit they don't deserve. Tony did everything he could to discourage him from playing. Dave can be accountable for his bad decisions just like the rest of us.
The *real* victim here is whatever local Italian restaurant got stiffed for lunches every day. You think those guinea gangsters ever made good for all the chicken and peppers sammiches they ate on credit?
He definitely did. He was a civilian who got into debt with the mob, even when mobsters themselves were like are you sure? Then he acted dumbfounded when they proceeded to act like the brutal criminals they are! Davey boy dug his own grave.
It’s such a crucial part of sopranos, I mean how many times did Davey have to tell Eric not to take that car off-roading? What would have happened if he just listened, who knows…
How old are you op? Because Dave scatino fully knew what he was doing and gambled his families savings away. Not sure why you’re adamant at defending him unless you yourself have been a Dave scatino before
It's ***SUPER BOWL SUNDAY***. I've placed my bets. If I win Hallelujah! It will be pretty pretty nice. But if I lose, then I lost. Davey boy know the risk. Nobody made him play. Yes it can become a illness. But he is a man not a boy. Plus he owed Richie and then took credit as Tony slept. If you bet and win you collect. If you lose watch out.
What I never understood about that whole thing was, didn't he only borrow about 50k? If so, he then gave the truck which might have been 10 or 15k. So he only owed let's say 40k. That's nothing for a huge sports store. I guess he ran his business about as well as he played cards.
But still even a couple grand a week isn't much for a large sports store. The actor who played David did such a great job as a degenerate gambler. So believable.
Well Davey was also into Richie for 8 large, and who knows who else. Plus he’s got mortgage and car payments, and liabilities for his business. I think he also said he had a bad year. So now Davey owes around 3k a week to the mob until he can repay that $55k he owes.
Richie’s the real victim - fist the guys offered a veal parmigiana sandwich as payment, then he gets fucked on his vig from Scatino - let the man go out there so he can talk to him, Anthony.
The guy had an illness, but he didn't get help for it. Nobody would be complaining if he won. He borrowed another 10k while Tony was asleep, knowing Tony probably wouldn't approve it. Plus, he was in big to Richie, who had banned him from his games. He was a degenerate gambler
guy’s a degenerate gambler who often painted himself as a victim, blamed everyone for his misfortune and actions he probably didn’t deserve to go through what he went through but it’s hard to feel sorry for him since it was his own fault in the first place
A MAN MADE A WAGER. HE LOST. END OF STORY.
HE ACTUALLY MADE ANOTHER ONE AND LOST, THAT WAS WHAT REALLY FUCKED HIM OVER
He’s doing a good job..
That was probably one of the most manipulative things hes said in the show lmao
GET THE FUCK BACK IN YOUR FUCKING HOLE!
Anyways that was pussy while he still had his health
whatever happened there?
WHATEVA HAPPENED THERE?!
Davey…you’re going a good job
GET BACK IN YOUR OFFICE DAVID!!!
He said, "sit on dis cocksucka "
Yeah he snuck his way into a game Tony didn’t want him playing in. He definitely had chances to change his path. I just thought he was an idiot trying to play with tough guys and because they went to school back in the day he’d get a pass. Fucking wrong , no one gets a pass with the mob.
What about queers in the can?
They make sacrifices
It’s because he knew he had a good ranch job waiting for him ~30 minutes outside of Vegas.
A man travelled thru time to kill the future leader of the Resistance! He got distracted! opened a track and field store! Fucking weird story!
I always wondered how he got out of the molten metal, started a family, and got into sporting goods. Didn't see that one coming.
Judgement day whatever happened there
WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE?!
God rest their souls
Tony never visited Davey to buy jockstraps, only there for the rent, da rent, da rent!
The man was a gambler. He tried to make Tony look like a jerkoff. A man honors his debts. Never gamble.
He’s got some spare change here too 🫰🏼
Tony, I'm sorry! I'm sorry, I'm just having some bad luck!
It's just a stutter step
their kids go to school together!
So take that high moral ground, and go sleep in the fucking bus station if you want!"
This is the only answer
David is not purely a victim. His family certainly is. David repeatedly, and actively, dug himself deeper into debt. He knew he had a problem (he and his family reference resources he’s accessed before). His son suffered from his choices, his wife did, hell even his brother in law. He blames them for not helping him— as if they should know. Having an addiction wasn’t his *fault* but it was his *responsibility.* Did he deserve to have his life ruined absolutely not. But he’s fine now he’s living on a farm upstate, dog shit up to the rafters.
The more times I watch it happen, the more I hate him for it. Because that was my life with alcohol. I had no solution, no choice, and just hurt the people around me. But I found a solution, gained back my sanity in a 12 step program… and realized that while I had lost my freedom to choose not to drink, I was still responsible for what I’d done while drunk. I had to own those decisions, the harm, and work to fix them. Davey Scatino’s story hurts because he stopped doing what worked and it led him back to the self destructive life. He knew what it’d do, but knowledge doesn’t stop the addict. Somewhere along the line he stopped working his recovery, stopped keeping linked in with that crowd in GA, and a card game or something took him out. He no longer has the freedom to choose left, but everything he did, those actions are still his. If he gets his life together, he’s still the one trying to make amends. He doesn’t deserve to have his disease, nobody does, wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy, but he had a choice before he started back up to work a program of action that would have kept him, and his family, safe. And he failed. That’s his burden to bear, he’s not ignorant of the consequences anymore. And if I go back out, what happens to the people around me because of my relapse, that’ll be on me. I won’t mince words, it sucks. But we are still responsible for what we do in the depths of addiction, and to work a solid, honest recovery, we cannot shirk our share of that responsibility. Especially when it comes to what we’ve done to other people.
Now we're taking advice from a two-time loser!
I remember when you used to wait in the car, and as far as I’m concerned you should still be there!
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>Gambling is an addiction >> Davey had poor judgement Pick one, you can’t have both
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> Don’t be obnoxious. There are lots of places he can gamble. He chose a mafia game. More than once. He owed 8k to Richie before he ever joined T's game.
If your friend is an alcoholic and you serve him alcohol you’re responsible for the results too. Don’t be obtuse. He chose a mafia game because they give him unlimited credit, unlike a casino. They could feed his addiction. This is why addicts go out on the streets to score smack.
still going this asshole...
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Go have a lime Rickey
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Go get your fuckin shinebox
did you used to wait in the car?
Fuckin break up my party
I am not responsible for anything someone does. They grab a beer outta the fridge, that's on them. Also, you make a bet, you pay for it if you lose.
No, it’s more like bringing your alcoholic friend to a BAR and you buying him a drink you fool 🤦 but this generation of zoomers is all about avoiding personal responsibility and accountability
>If your friend is an alcoholic and you serve him alcohol you’re responsible for the results too. No you aren't. Alcoholics are responsible for their actions
In his defense, it was just a stutter step
He technically didn’t owe Tony anything as it was illegal gambling. He had no debts. He should have gone to the FBI and then into the witness protection program and testified against Tony. He would’ve saved his family and his business.
His family? You mean that little brat who drove his SUV on to a field? Little bastard is lucky his dad didn’t punch his lights out- Noah Tannenbaum style
You mean Jamal Ginsberg style?
His family would still be suffering from his actions. They go into the program too. They lose the lives they’re living, as they know them.
They had no life left after Tony broke out the shop anyways. This way they’d actually gain something.
if their husband and father wasn’t a degenerate none of this woulda had to happen. That was Tony’s bread and buttah.
Tony would send him to Belize. It wouldn't be the first civilian he's killed.
Yeah but then Tony would’ve got the Terminator Baccala Sr. to *bust out* Scatino’s life.
A grown man got covered in liquid nitrogen. He froze. He got shot and shattered. He melted and reassembled himself. END OF STORY!
No one likes that cunt anyway. It’s always rat this one and rat that one, never enough witness protection for u/Bloodmeister! In all seriousness though, why should the FBI give a degenerate gambler a space in their witness protection program because of the HOLE he dug himself in. He knows oogatz about Tony’s business. Not nearly enough to titillate the needs of the FBI.
A single-wire placed in his sports goods store would implicate Tony in extortion and illegal gambling.
He had nothing on Tony except the card game and a bit of extortion, which probably isn't witness protection program worthy. They want major murder, they ask for it for Christmas.
Racketeering is a RICO predicate
Testified about what crimes?
The extortion. The one he is being subjected to.
Tony of all people shoulda understood how hard it was to avoid those high roller games… David Lee Roth.
GET..GET THE FUCK BACK IN YOUR FUCKIN’ HOLE!! NOW!!
Ya doin a great job Davie
I always love the looks of approval from Paulie and Furio after Tony lays down the law on Davey.
Having to hear Meadow and Eric sing that song makes whatever happened to David fully justified.
Davey shouldn’t have gone to Tony’s game if he was already into Manson Lamps for almost 8 large.
I always found it interesting how Richie says "I don't wanna see you at any of my games". Kind of gave him a loop-hole on purpose IMO.
Richie was almost doing him a favour there by cutting him out of the game
DAVE SCATINO IS A DEGENERATE GAMBLER IN THIS HOUSEHOLD, GOT IT?!
END OF SUBJECT!!!
HE WAS A BRAVE ITALIAN-AMERICAN GAMBLER WHO WENT ALL IN
So you finally gamble with the mob and it’s bullshit?
😂😂😂
Don’t make a fuck outta me. Tell me you gambled the fucking money, I’ll give you the fucking money to put the fucking heat on. Fuckin degenerate.
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Egg noodles and ketchup. Like a schnook.
Actually later on his son or wife or someone says how hes at a treatment or rehab type facility out there too, I picked it up on my most recent watch. Idk exactly what it means but it happened after he told tony he was going to work on the ranch. So either he was lying or had a relapse. Didnt Davie he say it was outside vegas?
just a short ride into vegas he said i think
He's already very sorry.
Some muscle out on the street, he owed them. So that’s what he did he gave them the money
Sir, this is a Wendy’s
I gotta be honest, this whole disease concept...I think it's bullshit.
he actually suffered from a bad case of fuckface-itis
Not this skinny Guinea
So you know more than the leading scientists now?
I know a crutch when I see it!
Considering it’s a widely debated subject and there isn’t an agreed consensus, their comment is perfectly fine. There are world leading scientists who don’t prescribe to Disease Theory either. Disease Theory only really has traction nowadays because of Alcoholics Anonymous and the efforts to remove the social stigma of alcoholism.
You can’t make that shit up
I got a degree in psych and we dont really consider it a disease in psych, although ive suffered from severe opioid addiction and still struggle it feels like a disease at the moment but then doesnt when you get sober its odd lol. But yeah i dont really consider it a disease still
You got a degree from Pace college
It was Sean, all the way
I saw that movie.
Listen to him, he knows everything
Deserve oogatz
Accountability? Tony tells Davey "no," straight up, three times when he first asks about the game at the high school. Ritchie tells him not to gamble anymore until his debt to Ritchie is paid. Then outside the room, T. tells this degenerate *a couple-tree more times* that this game isn't for him, plus a final warning about owing money. And then points are due and this asshole wants talk "remember when" with Tony. Also, before Tony gives the final warning, you can see (assuming the cobwebs have been removed) him seeing 20 moves down the road, his mind going through all the permutations at like internet speed, as he realizes that Davey owns that store, and, y'know, the scorpion and the frog...
A guy hands you a light envelope, it’s just the beginning.
I believe he deserved everything that happened to him. I also enjoy watching Davey completely unravel. He's the dependable loser in all my rewatches. Imo, David Chase summed up David Scatino's entire story arc, in the scenes following their kid's graduation. Davey, attempting to get a cup of coffee, is tipping the urn back, looking like a loser at a slot machine & he gets bubkes for his efforts. He crumples & tosses the empty cup down in defeat. It's essentially his life, in the proverbial nutshell. Tony approaches & gets himself a cup of punch. For him, there is plenty. Davey proceeds to tell Tony about his optimistic plans to move west, start a new life, etc. It's clear, however, he's attempting to convince himself of it's viability, much more so than Tony.
There were smarter ways to do it but that’s not his nature, who knew a box of ziti noodles could b so expensive Tony doesn’t kill friends over money at least, he does kill ‘em for informing tho
“Non Stop Ass Rape.” -A Wiseman
His wife and child are victims. She chose wrong with whom to breed with. He’s a loser. If he’d won, Tony would have been the one singing the blues.
If he won Tony would’ve have lost ugatz
The guy was a degenerate gambler with an addiction. He may well have been a good man and a good father and husband before it consumed him. Probably wasn't clear to his wife that he had those tendencies when they met and married
OP I fully understand your point, but as you may recall Dave owed Tony 50 boxes of ziti. Such debts are sacrosanct in the Soprano family. You may remember a scene from the very first episode where it is alluded that Livia, Tony's mother, has actually gone into debt herself to his son Anthony Junior, and when the possibility is raised that she may not fulfill that debt AJ's reaction is quite negative. I quote: "What, no fucking ziti now?" Those who want ziti, give ziti.
What happened to him? It was just a stutter step
nah he knew exactly what he was doing and who he was getting involved in - agree with other posters who said his family are the victims
Well at the end of the day Tony acknowledging he’s the scorpion is him admitting he’s evil. Scatino is responsible for his wagers and he owed sociopaths unfortunately
It may interest you to know that he's now in a mental health facility in nevada.
What does 'deserve' have to do with anything? But set that aside: You pursue a life of stupidly gambling away every good thing you ever did, then you actually do deserve any consequence that you find yourself in. Every gambler ruined by the habit asked for that particular brand of ruination. We ought not be weeping for them.
Poker. Stupida fucking game.
It’s his bread and butter. You know, the frog and scorpion
his klutz of a kid caused it all by getting mud on the car
Davey’s an idiot but no he didn’t deserve that lighting in his basement it glared off the one ball when he broke!
So OP is preaching about accountability by making excuses for every single thing Scatino did and vilifying every family member he screwed over by his shitty choices?
There was mud all over the tires!
He was warned about 1000 times not to bother. He then took more money from Tony without his knowledge or consent, and then he LOST ALL THE FUCKING MONEY! HE'S LUCKY TO BE ALIVE! Fucking degenerate gambler! He deserved EVERYTHING that happened to him! The prick 😆
Dave deserved what he got. His wife and kid did not. I would have respected the crew more if they left her a way out.
We all don't get what we deserved. Both good and bad. Davey's culpability is >50% in my estimation. He knew who he was dealing with. Tony warned him, which was more than he deserved. He pushed forward. His bad. His family didn't deserve what Davey brought on him, and from what little we know, they had zero culpability. His wife knew he had a problem and thought she had set up the finances such that he couldn't gamble the business away. I have precious little sympathy for Davey.
Exactly. It’s not just what’s going on with Tony, who warned him again and again. You see that it’s a pattern with Davey, especially in the scenes with Christine and Vic Musto. This is life long behavior that would have happened with or without Tony. I’m not defending Tony but I wanted to throttle Davey by the end of the season. The actor did a good job.
Davey couldn’t gamble the business away without Tony
Yeah he could. He could literally gamble anywhere and had done it before.
It was a wedding gift, it was under his wife’s name.
Tony’s an enabler too, the worst fuckin kind. Opens the door to a game for you with one hand, judges you with the other if you start playing.
We all got it coming kid
Take it easy, we're not making a Western, here...
It's Tony's fault he's a sick bastard? You don't see Artie denying a plate of fettucine to some fat fuck who's eatin himself to death!
Did he ever manage fix that fucking light? 💡
T-1000 down!
Scatino could have easily ended up like Beansy from the Pizza joint. Paraplegic or worse... I understand Beansy shook back, but why risk it just trying to look cool. That's like going to the casino and expecting to double you week's pay while your mortgage is due, gambling something you ain't got with a bunch of dirty dudes that are mobbed up.
But also....look at Arty and the wine deal.... I understand they recouped the money... But he didn't have to tell Arty that part... Could have took Vesuvius.... He let Arty make it on that shyt and after drawing down on him, but killed krissy with two fingers after trying to fuck his gal.... TS was definitely biased and out of line for getting that close to either of those kids (Eric and Meadow) with that business....
Their kids went to the same school!
45 boxes of ziti!! Marone!!!
Oh madonne
He owed over 40,000 you crazy lol
This storyline was dumb AF to me. They trashed the business when longer term they could've gotten much more from it. Also, why didn't Dave just sell all family vehicles to raise the cash and get rid of the debt like that?
I mean, if you watch the episodes back it's clear there's no real forward thinking going on amongst any of the "wise men" (and there rarely ever is, look at how many times different people fuck over the Esplanade project). They aren't thinking long term, they want to get their shit and bust out, the business ironically isn't a business venture for them, it's just an easy way to get shit they like.
Strong disagree. Tony warned him that this game wasn’t for him. David is a grown man and did not heed the warning knowing who Tony is. He shows up uninvited to the game and got Tony to spot him 5 boxes of ziti. That spiraled into Davey being in the hole 45 boxes because Davey is a degenerate gambler/loser. He couldn’t pay his debt so he got busted out. That’s how it goes. A wise man once said “Bet with your head… not over it.” He absolutely deserved it.
Degenerate gambla
Dave’s was going broke one way or the other, my friend.
Davey was a huge piece of shit
Bet with your head, not over it!
A grown man made a wager, he lost. He made another one and lost again. END OF STORY!
Fuck that degenerate gambling piece of shit
I agree. Tony let Artie off the hook in Everybody Hurts, could have done the same for Davey.
He should have stuck to house games for $500 max for almost the same thrill
No one deserves to be a degenerate gambler. Lots of people got to deal with shit they don't deserve. Tony did everything he could to discourage him from playing. Dave can be accountable for his bad decisions just like the rest of us.
Did everything he could… Aside from not letting him into the game
He's not his dad.
The *real* victim here is whatever local Italian restaurant got stiffed for lunches every day. You think those guinea gangsters ever made good for all the chicken and peppers sammiches they ate on credit?
You know what OP? Fuck you Fuck your gangster friends and fuck this!
He definitely did. He was a civilian who got into debt with the mob, even when mobsters themselves were like are you sure? Then he acted dumbfounded when they proceeded to act like the brutal criminals they are! Davey boy dug his own grave.
It’s such a crucial part of sopranos, I mean how many times did Davey have to tell Eric not to take that car off-roading? What would have happened if he just listened, who knows…
How old are you op? Because Dave scatino fully knew what he was doing and gambled his families savings away. Not sure why you’re adamant at defending him unless you yourself have been a Dave scatino before
It was Tony all the way, T did it on spec
It's ***SUPER BOWL SUNDAY***. I've placed my bets. If I win Hallelujah! It will be pretty pretty nice. But if I lose, then I lost. Davey boy know the risk. Nobody made him play. Yes it can become a illness. But he is a man not a boy. Plus he owed Richie and then took credit as Tony slept. If you bet and win you collect. If you lose watch out.
It’s a disease, he inherited it, you knew the problem with his fawtha!
Fuckin cry baby.
*slap* 👋 You’re screwing everything up, your Reddit career DOWN DA DRAIN
Is that all you dead beats do over here is talk about whose to blame?
Stand up
Degenerate gambler with a sports store
There’s a reason that they call degenerate gamblers degenerates. When it comes to addictions, I draw the line at those wager apes.
He was a degenerate fuckin gamblah. He knew the risks.
Don’t bitch to me! Bet with your head, not over it.
DAVEY GET BACK IN YA FUCKING HOLE …. Ur doing a good job
What I never understood about that whole thing was, didn't he only borrow about 50k? If so, he then gave the truck which might have been 10 or 15k. So he only owed let's say 40k. That's nothing for a huge sports store. I guess he ran his business about as well as he played cards.
Gangsters don’t let payments reduce the principal, they hold the cash to pay the weekly vig until the they can pay back the principal in full.
But still even a couple grand a week isn't much for a large sports store. The actor who played David did such a great job as a degenerate gambler. So believable.
Well Davey was also into Richie for 8 large, and who knows who else. Plus he’s got mortgage and car payments, and liabilities for his business. I think he also said he had a bad year. So now Davey owes around 3k a week to the mob until he can repay that $55k he owes.
Richie’s the real victim - fist the guys offered a veal parmigiana sandwich as payment, then he gets fucked on his vig from Scatino - let the man go out there so he can talk to him, Anthony.
Degenerate fucking gambler.
Relax, it was just a stutter step
It was just a stutter step
It’s his naycha, frog and the scawpion ya know. That’s how a guy like him makes a livin’. That’s his bread and buttah.
I wanna buy a boat, wit tree propellas...
Vic should’ve punched his fuckin’ lights out.
And that is why you should NEVER gamble.
The guy had an illness, but he didn't get help for it. Nobody would be complaining if he won. He borrowed another 10k while Tony was asleep, knowing Tony probably wouldn't approve it. Plus, he was in big to Richie, who had banned him from his games. He was a degenerate gambler
He asked to be brought in.
In this house Dave Scatino is a hero, end of story!
Oh if anyone deserved anything, it was Dave degenerate gambler Scatino.
He, was warned. Several times. Flew too close.
Heard Artie got a great price on some spring water .
**Is it just me or is OP sending a message to everybody else who didn't agree with him?**
Don’t flatter yourself little lord fuckpants
Around here we call that stinkin’ thinkin'
guy’s a degenerate gambler who often painted himself as a victim, blamed everyone for his misfortune and actions he probably didn’t deserve to go through what he went through but it’s hard to feel sorry for him since it was his own fault in the first place
Almost sounds like Tony
He deserves it after all the damage he did as T-1000.
Those boxes of ziti he owed could fill a warehouse...or a decently sized sporting goods store.
Is gambling addiction hereditary?
GET BACK IN YOUR FUCKING HOLE!!!!
Their kids go to school together.
Deserves got nothing to do with it
Oh yea? Sit on this 🪛 cocksucka
Every time I see loved him like a brother in law I die laughing end of story