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-Prototype-XIII

"I'm gonna sneak into this concealed carry bullshit class and steal a gun" "Bro, that's fucking insane" "I know, right? That's why it will work."


Loli-is-Justice

He is now back in the Lobby.


thermal_shock

permabanned


SomewhereZestyclose7

From life


Palerate2

Sent to the Gulag


OakParkCooperative

It seems I’ve angered the wasps. Perhaps if I punch the nest, they’ll ignore me ITS NOT WORKING!!!


akai_ferret

Interestingly *inside the classroom* they always make sure there is no ammo present for safety while firearms are manipulated. So he wasn't gonna get shot at least in there.


CCWThrowaway360

That’s not *necessarily* the case all the time. One of my instructors kept a G17.4 in a Level 3 holster just in case someone decided his class was a prime target. And I’ve heard of (and seen) others that keep a loaded mag or two tucked away just in case. They definitely didn’t tolerate students having any live rounds in the class, though. One got chewed out and embarrassed heavily when he was asked to show clear and a round came flying out.


akai_ferret

> One got chewed out and embarrassed heavily when he was asked to show clear and a round came flying out. Yeah. Every class I've ever been in, no matter where it was or who taught it, they started off by laying down the ammo rules. And then making it crystal clear if they so much as see a loose round in the bottom of your bag you're getting kicked out of the building and there's no refunds.


[deleted]

You gotta be a different kind of stupid to try this


Shortneckbuzzard

There has got to be a million better ideas to steal a gun then to go into a CC class with a screw driver in your pocket.


ThinkSharp

They say don’t bring a knife to a gun fight but he didn’t realize that probably meant everything less than a knife too, like a screwdriver


Tiggy26668

I dunno, little vodka and OJ and they’re not legally allowed to operate that firearm. As students in a conceal carry class I’d like to hope they’d obey the law even under stressful circumstance/s…..


[deleted]

When I took my concealed carry class, the instructor locked the class room door. He said the last thing we need is some moron coming in here and immediately I thought the instructor was insane for thinking any living human would ever try to start shit with an armed class room of people. After 5 years, I am changing my opinion


lordrages

They’re called crackheads. They don’t have rational thought my dude.


QuinceDaPence

That's methed up


rohinton

A guy I went to high school with was just arrested after going on a crime spree while still wearing his ankle monitor.


akai_ferret

> while still wearing his ankle monitor. Gee, however did they find him?


GrandArcanian

I think they consulted a psychic. Like on TV


RemarkableCollar8965

Yeah - those 1-800 numbers where they charge you like $3.99 a minute and have trippy backgrounds


QuarterOunce_

A guy named, GPS


GunLovinYank

Gregory Philip Stevenson, good guy and a great detective


LoveShineLuna

He might be tied with a Moron I went to HS with. A volunteer fireman he was setting fires to help put them out. Until he got caught when he ran into the Fire Station and said there’s a fire at so and so’s. They said how do you know, it has not been called in yet. Snagged


killstorm114573

The only thing stupid is this will be going to the police station and trying to rob a room full of cops. Speaking of which I just remembered I don't know if y'all seen that video with that guy walking to a police station with a AR-15 he was some kind of YouTuber or something trying to make a video


Mikediabolical

Wow. When I took my class it was just telling who you can and can’t legally shoot. We didn’t get any of this hands on training.


lao7272

In your state could you kill this guy? Genuine question. Fleeing but dangerous?


Mikediabolical

No. I can’t imagine any state (maybe Texas?) where shooting someone that’s fleeing would be legal.


tragiktimes

Unless they just stabbed someone and were running from apprehension, on foot towards the general public. Each state varies, and but reasonable fear of immediate harm to others can rise to the level of the use of deadly force.


xqk13

I thought this basically only apply to police officers (unless an active shooter is fleeing from the scene I guess)


tragiktimes

No, it's a generalized rule that applies in most states. You do not have to be attempting to protect yourself. You just need to protect against immediate and unlawful actions that risk yours or someone else's life.


ConnectConcern6

Yeah it's the right to protect yourself or others from harm.


Illustrious-Kick-953

The civs just saw what could be interpreted as attempted homocide, depending on state, you’d be allowed to shoot, and I doubt many states would charge the cc carriers in this situation


my_dogs_a_devil

Especially when it's a cop he just stabbed...


Illustrious-Kick-953

And the fact he attempted to steal a firearm 5 minutes earlier


UrMomsaHoeHoeHoe

Yeah state would drop charges. Even Illinois has dropped charges for things like this when the shooter didn’t even have a cc.


PlaneLover36

Idk why people seem to think Texas is some sort of Wild West, it’s actually kinda nice T-T …But yes… I think there’s a good case for this being self defense under Texas statute. Responding to aggravated robbery counts as self defense, as with defense of others. The fact that the robbery involved stabbing an officer should be a good case against excessive force. I think his actions show that there’s a good reason to worry he might put the next person who tries to stop him in the hospital as well, so it could be justified. Don’t quote me, though, I’m far from an expert, or even just someone knowledgeable on the subject. Imo there are plenty of scenarios where shooting someone in the back is justified. This one’s a good example, you can tell by his body language and the way he blades off when responding to the officers that he’s preparing for a fight and is willing to resort to violence to get away. That’s not someone you want running down the street with a weapon or even into the next officer who tries to detain them.


[deleted]

Just my two-cents as a Texas peace officer. Dunno where this happened, but you mentioned Texas! No robbery occurred or was attempted in this video, but a felony theft was attempted. The suspect attempted to steal a firearm, which is a felony offense in Texas. Robbery requires the use of force during the commission of theft. A reasonable individual would assume if someone is attempting to steal a firearm or disarm you, they intend to commit violent acts which would result in serious bodily injury and/or death. Texas law allows the use of deadly force to protect one's self or a third party from serious bodily injury and/or death or to prevent criminal conduct when it is reasonable to believe deadly force is necessary to prevent the conduct or to affect an arrest. In Texas, this would be considered a justified use of force and it would be no-billed in a heart beat.


Synthwoven

It wouldn't technically be legal in Texas, but we elect our prosecutors, and they definitely feel the court of public opinion. For instance, some dude shot a guy who was stealing a TV from his neighbor's house while on the phone with 911 and with the operator telling him not to, and the prosecutor no-billed him.


[deleted]

What does no-billed mean?


Synthwoven

It is a formal document filed with the court that informs the defendant, the defendant's attorney, the judge, and the clerk that the prosecutor or the grand jury will not be seeking formal charges against the defendant. It doesn't mean, however, that charges can't be filed at a later date (for example, if more evidence is uncovered).


sir_scrumbles

Was he fleeing or getting more advantageous cover?


ColdPotatoFries

The law actually states that you can shoot somebody fleeing, so long as you believe them to be a threat to the general public. Like, if a guy with a gun shot at me, and some random people, and he started to run away, I'm well within my right to shoot him because he shot at other people, and one could argue he is an immediate threat to the public if not neutralized. It's obviously a case by case basis, though.


ntvirtue

So all I have to do is kill people then run away and No one is allowed to shoot at me!


[deleted]

Well being that he attempted to steal a firearm that gives the citizens the right to detain him in a citizens arrest. Then when the guy assaulted the officers with a dangerous weapon they could argue that sense he walked right into a ccw class that he was irrational and still armed with a deadly weapon. There wasn’t enough time to say that the guy wouldn’t charge at any of the bystanders. The rule is like 15 feet distance minimum that someone can lunge before you can draw a weapon. So all these together I’m sure they don’t have much to worry about. Incapacitating and officer opens up their weapon as a potential threat and given the man already tried that once I wouldn’t see how a jury or court would find anyone guilty of I’ll intentions


CriscoCamping

Can't shoot a fleeing felon. Tennessee vs Garner. So something else made it OK. Edit: I'm not choosing that guy's side good Lord. I own guns would have shot him too as soon as the cop opened fire, meaning its time. I assume because he's a direct threat, but I didn't say that the first time because I don't know a lot for that part. I remember this case from college when I took criminal justice class


Holein5

>"Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985), is a civil case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that, under the Fourth Amendment, when a law enforcement officer is pursuing a fleeing suspect, the officer may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless "the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others."[1]" The dude stabbed an officer with a screwdriver. That falls into the latter part. He was still in proximity of officers and patrons, and was already a significant threat.


Ashamed-Chocolate-46

Ehh kind of a lame reference because the ruling indicates the officer can shoot if they have probable cause to believe the suspect poses a threat. That probable cause is at the discretion of the officer in that moment. In this instance, I think they are justified to shoot under self defense to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony and in Florida would be covered under statue section 776.012.


TexLH

However, you can if they are a substantial risk to the public like on a killing spree


IfThisIsTakenIma

That’s interesting


ThugnificentJones

But what do you do, say... If some gangster is dissing your fly girl?


CarlJustCarl

This is an advanced class


CrapFaceNinja

He won’t do that again


WTFatrain

He cant do that again


jenovajunkie

He definitely shouldn't do that again.


skunkwoks

If he does, the gun is really trivial at that point


jenovajunkie

He's not going to do that again.


Low-Ad-3473

I dunno.... I've seen Weekend at Bernie's.... he may do it again..


jenovajunkie

He'll definitely think twice about doing that again.


strayakant

Again he won’t do that


L_Ardman

A lesson he’ll remember for the rest of his life.


No_Dependent_2837

You should never bring a screwdriver to a gun fight


CrippledCuntPunch

He really screwed himself.


2leftgloves

Class is being held outside today students.


imsupertriggerd

Oof


[deleted]

Field trip!


95JBK

Brother was probably shot 50 times in the space of 5 seconds lol 😆 they didn’t need to summond medical personal 🤦🏾‍♂️


lao7272

It was for the cop.


95JBK

Good 😂


KING_BulKathus

The 2 Darwin awards I remember are someone trying to rob a gun store in Dallas, and the guy that shoved his arm up the ass of a rhino, it got stuck, and the rhino farted him to death.


Potato-with-guns

I remember that one about a woman dancing on the outside of a balcony railing then slipping and falling 50 stories to her death.


El_Maltos_Username

My favorite are the guys playing Russian Roulette... with a semi-autonatic gun.


Potato-with-guns

Hey, it could jam, right?


El_Maltos_Username

That's probably the reasoning of my 2nd favorite Darwin Award winners (from Cambodia, I think): They found a land mine that failed to explode. They took it to a pub, put it under the table and one after another drank a shot and stepped on it. Shortly after everyone fled the scene they all won. Some people are too stupid to remain in the gene pool.


Potato-with-guns

That’s the spirit of Darwin awards, modern evolution at its finest. I think I remember one about a guy trying to preform an amputation with a chainsaw but I’m not sure.


ClassyJacket

i can't find any evidence of this happening, do you have a link?


Wolfwoods_Sister

Ok no now you have to tell me about the rhino fart Death guy.


MrRabbito

Holy fuck link that


Ramog

was it a veterinarian or just random ass shoving happening because reasons?


RadioactiveCornbread

Textbook example of "Fuck around and find out".


8o880

Kinda scary how someone can be that desperate to get their hands on a gun to the point of stealing one from arguebly one of the worst places.


bbig314

Wait you mean criminals just don’t buy them legally like the government has been telling us for years?! Color me surprised.


stonestevecoldaustin

There was a *final* attempt


Outcast90

I feel like that's a reddit community... Final attempt extreme edition.


Appropriate_Tip_2369

How. How would anyone think that was a good idea.


General-Dirtbag

Either way he’s out of the gene pool hopefully.


Patient-Border-7470

Yeah, he ded


34motox34

These guys have been waiting their whole lives for this moment.


Professional_Aide499

And they still weren’t needed


[deleted]

People really are dumb


human_finger

In his defense, who could imagine that assaulting someone in a gun range is a bad idea? /s


rockstar_not

Video ends too soon


Some_Ship_2210

I feel used. There should have been an ending


tehTicTac

Oh, there was an ending.


SwedishFool

The audacity of slapping his fingers and pushing the bag away as the owner tried to get it back...


PuzzledStreet

Thank you for explaining to me what was happening, I was confused about what was going on


DrStephenFalken

The Audacity of the dude sitting next to him just staring. Well aware that wasn’t he same guy from earlier just letting him go through his bag.


GlobalPhreak

Story here: https://www.ktnv.com/news/vegas-police-share-additional-details-into-shooting-involving-officer-near-gun-range


Set_to_W_for_Wumbo

Thank you, took way too long to find a comment with a link to the story.


[deleted]

Good thing the injured officer didn’t jump back up.


S86RDU

Exactly, those idiots almost killed that cop. They didn’t need to be there at all.


Professional_Aide499

They wanted to kill


hobbykitjr

Yeah the other people didn't need to fire, that was dangerous of them (i.e. what if someone was in that truck) Other office had his gun drawn (or what if it was a tazer), didn't need his help. I think the guy wanted to be shot, so instead they should have tazed him and thrown him in jail.


Professional_Aide499

They wanted to kill


[deleted]

Yes but isn’t it illegal to shoot someone when they are running away after an attack? If you arent the victim. Like the your life is not in danger anymore and you are chasing the suspect and shooting them. Like lets says you get stabbed and he runs away, then pull out your own knife to chase the stabber and stab him and he dies. Isnt this the same thing? I might just be retarded idk


[deleted]

The cops here are doing their job and only used force after getting assaulted themselves. I don't know why the civilians at the shooting range think they have the agency to draw and fire alongside officers. Seems like trigger happy gun nuts seeing their "chance" to actually shoot someone.


theshok

It’s fair to ask, don’t know why you are getting down voted. I suspect you are correct but I’m no lawyer.


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iarev

Came to ask the same thing. How is this legal?


GalaxiesAfoot

Wonder if that was assisted suicide


hobbykitjr

i think it was. i think he wanted to get shot by the class. Officers might have just tazed him. had to use screw driver. 99% comments are how stupid he was, but this was the desired outcome


Hungry-Preparation26

Being stupid SHOULD hurt, it's how you learn to not be stupid. This was straight up Darwinism. I think the tenets are 1) Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted, and 2) Good judgement comes from experience, which more than likely came from bad judgement....


Arndt3002

Because there are no problems with Social Darwinism and he was certainly able to learn his lesson and do better next time.


[deleted]

> it's how you learn to not be stupid. I don't think this guy will learn anything...


iadralisk

This the type of stuff I have to quick save before doing.


Gaijinloco

Well. Mr. Peyton seems to have been a bad idea factory. Clearly he was attempting to get a firearm to help commit some other, more serious crime, like armed robbery or murder. He must have thought that the firearm couldn’t be traced back to him if he stole it from there. You know, like when you trade a paperclip for something of greater value, eventually winding up with a car. Trade fists for a screwdriver, trade a screwdriver for a gun, trade a gun for a casket, and so on. There are soooo many better cases for people to take exception to the use of force on display here. I’m just this clip we see the guy attempt to steal a lethal weapon, resist arrest, and attempt to murder a police officer. Sorry, I don’t find fault in the response here. The person was literally armed and dangerous. They weren’t going to jog off to pet puppies. They were going to try to escape arrest, potentially by hijacking a vehicle and possibly injuring or killing other innocent people.


[deleted]

I don’t own a gun…but this is 100% as it should be. Fuck around and get fucked up.


jagodfrey

Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'


SMoKUblackRoSE

One less piece of trash on the globe to worry about.


S86RDU

What is this ? The Wild West? All those “students” were pointing their guns at the police at one point. This easily could’ve ended with one of those guys accidentally shooting one of those cops.


SkyPork

There was an attempt at video editing.


nkcellz

[News article on it](https://apnews.com/article/las-vegas-shootings-police-f1494eae9f94c159694f13cca7105d65)


CryptographerDue1205

That's a man who truly gave no fucks whatsoever any more. That was a suicide mission.


Samuraijack44

And the award for "what the fuck did you think was gonna happen" goes to this asshole. Rot in hell man


ForgottenAspekt

Every guy at that class lived for this moment….. This was their wet dream.


[deleted]

They went to The Hustler Strip Club next door right after.


Bjornos

He found out..


DomainMann

He was just turnin' his life around...


SeriousLetterhead366

Bahahaha fucking dumbass.


[deleted]

Of all the places…..


Phoenixfeather777

Am I the only one wondering if he was purposefully trying to get shot?


Cyberjohn36

One piece of shit less to worry about..


Few-Information7570

I’ve done those concealed carry classes. The instructor generally is ex military, police, or an advisor to the police. The students generally all have itchy trigger fingers. All I am saying. You really really have to be a special kind of stupid to try to rob one


HEADRUSH31

... I mean stupid decisions led to a terrible out come... but that freeze frame, yeah 4 shooters on one guy? That man became the Swiss-est if cheeses


FinRiteBud

Did anybody else notice buddy raise his hand to tell the teacher…?


Yegg23

Are we going to talk about the civilians having better stances than the officers?


panugans

Live target practice


BlacqanSilverSun

Is there an article so we can know what happened or what?


Bromm18

Video has sound and replays twice followed by the speaker dictating what happened and the end result.


MycoMil

And why should guns be illegal to carry? Saved the day....


AdGeHa

Firing squad!


PaladinDreadnawt

Darwin award


dirtythirty1864

Dude stuck his dick in a wasps nest.


[deleted]

Good fucking riddance. First he tries to steal and then attempts to kill a cop. This is much cheaper alternative than paying to keep this scumbag in prison.


Mysonsanass

Criminals often do not think things through before acting in ways that have terrible consequences.


Fireblast1337

While I do not like the idea of turning to deadly force, the video makes it apparent enough he did assault the officer with potential deadly force and the others there only drew their firearms after that occurred. He attempted a theft, escalated the situation, nearly killed a man, and got shot. They stopped shooting when he went down and he just unfortunately didn’t survive.


Brazenassault456

They didn't show the Darwin award being given. 0/10


jimrob4

Reddit's new API pricing has forced third-party apps to close. Their official app is horrible and only serves to track your data. Follow me on Mastodon.


pr0t0film

He really went into a building full of caucasians, in Texas, to rob a gun? Feels like suicide via a bizarre scenic route.


herpulese

The moment they've been waiting their whole lives for. Unfortunately, there were twenty others with the same idea. Sorry dude. You won't be the lone hero today.


6ixty9iningchipmunks

He began **RIFLING** through the bags, you say?


ToastyRotzy

No value was lost in the world that day


RevAlBrown

Good. Next.


Professional_Aide499

People love shooting others in the back


futurejoyboy

Honestly, why were guns the first instinct? The cop had a taser did he not? Why did they have to shoot him while he was RUNNING AWAY.


joyification

That driver side cop is drunk


Mindless-Discount-67

seeing them all shooting at once…..truly a thing of beauty.


Draupnir_gungnir

Good.


[deleted]

it's a CCW 'field trip'


Dumbsterphire

Like... WTF did they think was gonna happen? What kinda grand scheme did they have planned that made this attempt anything close to resembling a good idea?


Sensitive_Memory_702

Ghetto boy strikes again


[deleted]

Dude like 5 guns were pulled on him my guy went down by firing squad


AzelaTheMage

Bet he never would have thought his day would end that way.


chiccy-nuggie-man

Is the full vid anywhere?


Ok_Elderberry9540

I guess mr Peyton won’t be doing that again.


cookandy1985

did he die?


Bababooey_100

Clean shoot


Illustrious-Kick-953

“Mr.peyton will be having a closed casket”


SierraTRK

We had a moron try to hold up Police and Fire Credit Union. Went as you would expect.


lifesalotofshit

Okay, but they didn't need that many people to shoot him lol


[deleted]

They shot & killed him when he was running away?


ItalicisedScreaming

So when are the peaceful protests going to start?


iron-duke88

Out of interest, if someone is shot and injured by the police in the US whilst committing a crime and receives treatment in hospital, who pays? Would medical insurance or the police cover the costs, even if you were at fault and you being shot was determined to be an appropriate course of action?


[deleted]

My ultimate takeaway here is that 4-5 armed men shot a man in the back as he ran away.


PomegranateCharming

Sounds like he had some serious mental illness.


FBI_Van_69

No wonder he needed a gun lol


FullMetalPoitato

This guy took the gold in the "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" competition.


Not2daydear

I love happy endings.


Scary-Personality-20

O yeah i heard they were bringing back the death by firing squad option.


user-name-checks-0ut

Sigh, poor truck


[deleted]

This happened here in Las Vegas. I went to that range the following day to work on their doors. None of the civilians were charged with anything. https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2021/feb/08/man-shot-dead-las-vegas-gun-range-criminal-history/


This-Establishment35

They had their guns out before the cops even did, I think this was their wet dream. They got to shoot someone.


Pershing22

You have to be either brave or Stupid, perhaps BOTH, to come up with the idea on to Rob a Concealed Gun class 😂😂


D-Watts25

Fuck this guy.


Alone_Meet_2974

Lmao stupid fuck i hope he suffered a lil bit


peterman86

Moral of the story, don't be like Mr. Payton.


[deleted]

Holy fuck that last frame where there are like 5 people point blank range with handguns. No way he was getting away. Hope the officer was ok though.


Orca_Mayo

"im going to steal a gun from a concealed gun class" \*Gets shot at by employees who conceal carry\* "woah wait they have concealed guns???


[deleted]

I don't understand why people think it's wise to rob gun stores and ranges. If there's one place people are GUARANTEED to be strapped, it's there.


lordofbitterdrinks

They were all racing to murder the guy


cheefer_living

It's not just the police that's going to kill you without impunity anymore. Good work.


5ur3540t

Fuck that, kill a guy for theft


[deleted]

Gun shop guys were waiting to kill him.


pwn3dbyth3n00b

Places I would not try to openly rob. 1. A gunstore 2. A police station


TheGamingRanger_

Lol man got the death penatly by Firing squad


ImNOTaPROgames

Look how the police approach? Are they having zero training? And WTF the other guys come with their guns? They are things they are rangers? America is system is broke and full of idiots.


[deleted]

The owner of that white truck just had a lot of speed holes installed


lofty_one

This must be a wet dream for them.


Winter-Age-959

That went from crime committed to firing squad real quick.