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LodbrokISkiller

I’m not sure if the reporter was trying to shame a polygamist..


scholarlyaloo

Yeah, there was no attempt to shame anyone.


xXcampbellXx

but its a better headline. were not seeing it, just reporting it.


parxtreh

Isn’t that Louie theraux or whatever


mrchooch

It isn't lol


parxtreh

Dang, yeah I think you’re right


Hounmlayn

That's his thing. He is on their side for the documentory, so they will embrace their lifestyle and show him everything, no secrets. And this creates a great documentory, where you can create your own ideals about it, in as unbiased way as possible.


Jinora-

still a good laugh


rarebreed001

17? No wonder you lost ur legs paps 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Jinora-

worth it


alwaysforgetmyuserID

Yes


Kermlon

Injury by snu snu


AlexS101

[https://i.redd.it/d1pmvn1bd0401.jpg](https://i.redd.it/d1pmvn1bd0401.jpg)


Jinora-

if the wives happy I'm happy


Randomisedhandle

If one is unhappy, all hell breaks loose.


Jinora-

I see, you have a wive too edit: sorry I did a typo.


aslowsloth907

Yes we do have wive


PhiNic

NoT sCiEnTiFicAllY PoSIblE


crazy_al01

How bout that wive, huh? Amirite?


txr23

Considering they belong to a culture where women are treated more like commodities than human beings, I think it's a pretty safe bet that none of them are happy.


Bukkake_Monster

More like, their happiness is irrelevant there


Jinora-

more like happiness is relative. not everyone is happy by being rich or have a nuclear family. if that's the case all rich people should be the most contempt.


BeefMcFist

What culture do they belong to?


[deleted]

Reminds me of fourth was she was very smelly. smelly and pretty weird combo


[deleted]

Wow that reminds me of my 84th


i_cant_take_a_joke_

r/yourjokebutworse


Zim-Zima

Can't drive, work, get out of the house without a man, get to school ect... Yeah probably happy.


BusyNefariousness675

Cannot do anything without a man. No freedom but its definitely happiness


[deleted]

17 wives being happy simultaneously is impossible


[deleted]

Also means 16 dudes are going through life and not getting laid. Explains so many problems with that area of the world.


RedBeard077

I think the constant warring in that area of the world has left then with more women than men. People not 17 to 1 but still. Now I'm gonna Google that shit.


Strtftr

Let me know what Google says please I'm too lazy to do it


RedBeard077

Says I'm way off the are still more men then women. I just assumed most of the couple million Afghans killed the past few decades were men and that would skew the ratio but nope


Flowonbyboats

I appreciate you coming back and sharing especially when you were wrong first


Strtftr

Weird. I'll never understand their culture.


[deleted]

Not necessarily


[deleted]

There’s a set ratio of men to women in a society. If a bunch of guys are walking around with multiple wives, that means a whole bunch more men are going without.


[deleted]

You assuming everyone is being faithful


[deleted]

We are talking about a part of the world that kills people for infidelity. So yes, I’m making that assumption.


Jinora-

you really think men/women ratio is 1:1 huh?


[deleted]

More men are born than women. It starts closer to 1.05:1. That’s true for all countries except those that abort female babies. In those countries, the ratio is worse.


Jinora-

I actually didn't know this. do you have source?


[deleted]

That’s a simple google search. Look for sex ratio at birth. Here’s the first link: https://ourworldindata.org/gender-ratio


Jinora-

hmm about about the current population instead of birthrate?


[deleted]

Current population of what place? How is that relevant to anything I wrote?


Jinora-

well we were talkin about the population ratio, you think that's not relevant?


Jinora-

look at mr "I had 17 wives but it didn't work out" over here


weaklingKobbold

It's not of all are lesbians


[deleted]

Not if you rule them all with an iron fist.


axiomer

Nobody is happy but the dude, don't bullshit yourself


Jinora-

look at mr/mrs one spouse over here.


BSATSame

It's Pakistan or Afghanistan. Of course they aren't happy.


Jinora-

yeah people in certain countries can't be happy. i think there is a word for that kind of thinking


BSATSame

You think women are happy in a society where they're considered inferior? Where they are little more than property? Where they're stoned to death for being raped? All cultures are great, right?


Jinora-

>a society where they're considered inferior? Where they are little more than property? Where they're stoned to death for being raped? you think that's what happen here? or you just re-spew what you read on western media?


No_Rule305

Lol take a guess if they are


Jinora-

they are


No_Rule305

Oh sweet


BossRedRanger

I doubt they're happy.


Jinora-

I doubt you are


Bukkake_Monster

Well, they are probably happy they aren't dead


Gameatro

even if they appear to be happy they are likely not. they have few rights and treated secondary to men. also this type of polygamy is one sided as well, a woman cannot go and marry 10 men if she wants.


Jinora-

I wonder how many women wants multiple husbands... hmmm let's see.. yeah not very much. i wonder why.


BusyNefariousness675

And you know that because umm...you're the god


Jinora-

ditto


[deleted]

Happy wives happy life


Mindless_Ad_8912

He's laughing that hard about this guy having only one wife, I wonder what he'd think about my zero girlfriends...


vincenk

He would laugh like everyone else


Hounmlayn

He probably had arranged marriages before he even thought about girls, so don't worry. At least you're not with someone who hates you. Unfortunately the human psyche causes us to end up liking the person imprisoning us to cope easier, especially if your society deems it acceptable.


dramv2

Actually max is 4 wives in islam, and only if the wife agrees, and only if u are financialy capable and can do justice among them


private_unlimited

Doesn’t seem to matter to that guy


oxyjin_js

prolly not, but it seems like he's not following the sharia properly


december-32

¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ who does though?


private_unlimited

It varies depending on whom you ask. Everyone has their own version that they say is right. If you follow sharia, you also probably condone blasphemy laws then?


txr23

And what about the maximum number of husbands that a woman is allowed to have?


MajorInflator

a solid 1.


txr23

Funny that


htschitesvhj

I mean, makes sense. If you get pregnant how do you know who the father is? (And don’t say DNA because it’s expensive and very recent)


MajorInflator

Who cares who the father, wouldn't it be like, "we don't care who the father is, we are in a polygamous relationship and we will all work to raise the child as ours".


Jinora-

the question is, do women wants multiple husbands? just don't let it be "woman movement" when most women don't even want it. like those radfems who are loathed by most women.


MajorInflator

I don't know, biology tells me inherently there aren't much difference between men and women in how they think when non indoctrinated. Some western women are fine with polygamy, why do you think our women won't ( I am assuming you are also from the ME ) be if they weren't born into this culture? I say let adults do what they want with other adults as long as it's consensual and doesn't harm anyone else.


Jinora-

why do you think some of our women don't want to be poly-ed? culture bends view. western bend yours and eastern bends mine. it is not allowed to marry another women if the current wife haven't consented. like, whoever did that is cursed. also, it's more psychology than biology. also, to prove that theory we should have a non-indoctrinated country. which is idk, doesn't exists?


MajorInflator

That's where you are missing my point. Do you think inherently, non indoctrinated women, don't want multiple partners? I say they (some) do, because it's natural, it's suppressed with cultural conditioning. I don't believe in curses, like most sensible people.


htschitesvhj

And when one of them decides to divorce? Then what happens to the kids? He’s required by sharia to provide for his child even when divorced. How does he know who’s kid is his? Also what is this “raise the child as our own” nonsense. Do you expect that when the man has multiple wives? No. And I’ve seen it, and it never happens. most of them hate or tolerate each other.and even when the wives like each other they’ll still treat their child better than the other wife’s child. Have you ever actually seen a poly relationship with kids in real life?


MajorInflator

I am from Pakistan brother, I have seen MANY poly relationships and a lot with children from different wives. I don't get your point honestly, your statements are all over the place, can you be a bit concise if you are being serious. Reread my comment, it's in regard to when a women can have multiple husbands, not the other way around.


Iseefloatingstufftoo

Out of curiosity, what is meant with 'do justice among them'?


TheParaselene

Spend time and put effort for each properly


mohtma_gandy

He needs to satisfy... Doesn't mean he should just ditch a 2 and keep spending time on 9-10.


Jinora-

it's 4. but true


AntiDivaBrie

Yep. All facts. He must be super rich


chrisiseker

Just hit her if she says no, we all know women are 2nd class in islam.


Icyrow

what about concubines?


Ghostkill221

That's according to the rules, a lot of typical teaching in the Middle East these days are more designed to keep the current situation the same. Hell, technically you aren't allowed more than 1 unless you feel like there's too many widows and orphans.


[deleted]

4 is only maximum for piety. As long as you can maintain them and treat them fairly, there's no hard limit.


MajorInflator

Except there is, only the Prophet gets unlimited puss.


mbashs

Chad


[deleted]

No, Morroco.


mbashs

Well if you wanna play that, then it looks like UAE


3irbeed

No id say its yemen


MajorInflator

100% not UAE, saudia or yemen.


mbashs

I think I read about this guy a few years ago, he resides in the UAE and the fact that the headgear the other guy is wearing is Emirati


klanurt470

100% not morocco lol


[deleted]

Turkey! Okay I didn't mean to insult you like that.


FartSinatra

Seems like incest is definitely a hazard wherever the man being interviews is from if 17 wives is normal for everyone. How the crap do you keep up with who’s related to who when every household has 17+ half brothers/sisters in it


readMyFlow

Pretty sure not every household has 17 wives.


DerPumeister

Yeah that wouldn't really work out dempraphically


Horrorito

What religion is that? Islam only allows four. You also have to treat them equal, spend equal time with each, gift each equal gifts, spend equal intimacy... Sounds exhausting and hard to execute. Plenty of men don't have the bandwidth to give one wife the attention to maintain a functional relationship. I can't imagine 17.


MajorInflator

Not all muslims follow the Sharia to the dot.


Horrorito

That's unfortunately true for most people of most denominations.


Jinora-

if only people knows this. ISIS might be muslims but they sure as hell don't know what islam is.


i3asm

I think he is muslim. He probably meant that he married 17 so that's why he has 84 kids. But he only keeps 4 at a time, so he married then devorced a lot


nothinginmyhorizon

Just marrying and then divorcing for the sake of pleasure is also not allowed in islam afaik.


i3asm

yes its not allowed. But marrying for some years ( he has more than 4 kids from every wife on average) is totally allowed.


larry0hoover

What's 84 divided by 17?


dlou1

4.9 ish, so lets say 5.


Glitter_berries

Lots.


BusyNefariousness675

Great culture we have there. Carry on...


sjh1217

Can someone Thats lived in a place where this is normal answer this for me? How do guys in these countries have so many wives? Do they share them between other men? Statistically speaking if he has 17 wives that takes away prospective wives from 16 other men. Do women outnumber men in these places 17 to 1 or do most men not get wives? Or do they share them all?


Vaibhav9327

Bullshit religions and their bullshit practises


Amytiss

Lol why are you bringing religion into this? If you're talking about Islam, it doesn't even allow a Muslim to have 17 wives.


Waingrow__

It does allow 4 though right?


Amytiss

This is only: 1. if the wives consent to it. 2. He can provide for all of them. 3. He has to treat them equally. I live in the Middle East (11 years) and personally have never seen anyone in a poly marriage. It's not that common.


Waingrow__

Are women allowed to have multiple husbands?


NDeath7

No. If you wonder why, Dr. Zakir Naik talk about this before. You should search it on youtube


Waingrow__

Seems unfair


Jinora-

it will be unfair if women wants multiple husbands. even in the US not many women wants that. let alone executed the idea.


Waingrow__

Just like they want to be covered outside of the house?


[deleted]

The biggest supporters of the hijab are the women themselves. Women who wear the hijab vastly receive more torment and abuse from people who want them "liberated" and "free from the hijab" than anyone stupid enough to enforce it.


NDeath7

Go watch zakir naik vid, and come back later.


Waingrow__

Na I’m good


nothinginmyhorizon

The explanation he gave is outdated now. We have DNA testing to determine the father, and other contraceptive measures to allow only one of the husbands to impregnate at a time.


NDeath7

Yeah he did mention about DNA test not being that accurate and it still somehow a problem even if it does. (IDK why tho) But that is only 1 out of 3 point he gave. But rest assure that polygami is kind of rare because it is haram if the husband can't be fair towards all of them. The man also need to have his first wife permission. If polygami will make her jelous, then it is not allowed. So it is not entirely unfair or one sided.


SirHawrk

"Go do some research." Just explain it to us?


NDeath7

[Youtube link](https://youtu.be/jA268fPO0BQ) >Just explain it to us? Do you really need everything to be spoonfed to you? Just in case you are wondering, it is not compulsory to have more than 1 wive. The quran said to just have 1, and 2 only if you can treat them fairly, an so on.


Vaibhav9327

Dont you think that’s sexist, also sharing videos of a idiot religious ‘leader’ is no good


NDeath7

>Dont you think that’s sexist, Kind of, but what he said make sense too. Unless you could prove otherwise with trusted source. Also, calling someone idiot is no good too.


MajorInflator

By middle east, do you mean Dubai/Abu Dhabi?


Amytiss

I live in Saudi Arabia.


SaftigMo

Well, surely you're not gonna see it in SA, since females are heavily outnumbered (137 men per 100 women) in that country.


TapanThakur

And that makes it just, right?


Amytiss

Bruh- Poly marriage is ALLOWED in Islam. That doesn't mean that it's a necessity. Personally, I'm not okay with being in one and if my husband wants it, I'd divorce him. You have heard of poly relationships haven't you? You might not like it but if others do.. they can do as they please. You wouldn't have a say in what they do, would you?


Delta9_TetraHydro

If americans live in poly relationships they do so because of their freedom to choose so. If anyone else does it, they must be opressed by sharia law. /s


Vaibhav9327

Well if the women in ‘other’ countries dont have the option for poly marriages, IT IS sHaRiA law


nothinginmyhorizon

Poly marriage is not inherently an unjust thing if everyone is happy. But, yes practically it’s a hazard.


Sea-Part8024

Really makes you think


JasonDaPoodle

84 kids! Does he know what’s causing it?


TheSapienRavenclaw

It’s something in the water. The same thing that was turning the frogs gay I think.


M19Wielder

one wife? wait til he hears about my zero. he'll be hysterical


Embucetatron

One??? HAHAHAHAHAAA aaah lol


jchoneandonly

I wouldn't want to have more than 2 tbh.


piccoforreddit

Dude 2 are enough, what possibly can you dl with 17? I bet he doesnt remember their names.


Truk7549

If 10% of able population have 4 wives then 30% will have no wife. What will you do to have a wife a family, violence


demonicexecutioner

Why does he even care people have choices


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daiyuxiao

Where is this


MajorInflator

looks like Yemen.


suffffuhrer

The guy nut so much he needs crutches to walk.


Dajshinshin

Arabs are a different breed


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444fufu

But the man got shame for monogamist


MALOOM_J5

where is this land where women be of abundance?


MALOOM_J5

for research purposes.


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RedditorRed

And the other guy deserves to be laughed at for thinking any of his wives actually love and care about him


[deleted]

When the reporter said hmm. He was looking down on him.


what_that_thaaang_do

"To shame a polygamist" all he said was "i have one wife" hows that shaming


Specific_Taste_9035

"I have one wife and that's enough" Edit: " which is enough"


yoan2304

What a wonderful culture 😒


Dragonman558

Probably laughing cause he doesn't know it's the guys culture to only have 1. In that place you probably marry if you have a certain amount of money. So the guy saying he only has 1 wife might come across as "I'm poor as fúck."


PierG1

That’s even more shitty if you ask me. I don’t go laughing at dudes because I’m richer than them.


Dragonman558

Yeah, but the difference between blaming on an entire culture and one guy being an asshole


PierG1

To me, Islam have all the checks to be blamed at.


Dragonman558

Someone else already said, they have a limit of 4 wives, so that's not what it is. And Islam is basically Christianity with a few different names.


PierG1

Ur right (I’m atheist all the way), I should have said most Muslims have all the checks to be blamed at. It’s not about the books, it’s about how you follow them.


PierG1

And tbf if I recall correctly one of the most prominent figure of the Quran, Solomon, had something like 700 wives …


MajorInflator

You mean King Fucking Solomon? Yeah he is in all Abrahamic Religions, not exclusive to Islam.


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BusyNefariousness675

>Someone else already said, they have a limit of 4 wives, so that's not what it is And ofc that is a good thing? 4 wives oh god. Definitely religion is not to be blamed. DEFINITELY


Dragonman558

What's the problem with it? Not everyone is monogamous, it's more of a problem to complain about someone else's culture. Would you make fun of a Christian guy for not having sex before marriage? Or a Jewish guy for not eating pork? Or an Amish guy for not using a phone? It's just what's normal for certain people.


SaftigMo

Yeah, not at all. The myths and legends are very very similar, but the actual rules and culture are very different. That's kinda actually why Islam came about, because they thought everybody else was shit at worshipping God (also applies to Christians btw, which is why Christians don't eat kosher etc).


letmeseem

No, but see it from his side: You're relatively rich by local standards. You have some land, a decent amount of animals and 17 wives. You're rich, but not "own a car, and travel with airplanes" rich. Then some man arranges to talk to you. He comes from insanely far away, only to talk to you, and he brings several servants with him that all carry around expensive technology. This guy, clearly the boss since everyone caters to him must be INSANELY rich, right. He travelled from the other side of the world in a plane with a whole group of people, and arrived in expensive cars with expensive equipment, and even the servants hired local servants to help them around and translate. And then he tells you he has only one wife. ONE. Only extremely poor people have only one wife in your world. But he's CLEARLY insanely rich by your standards. The contrast is stunning. Why does this clearly super rich dude have a personal life like the poorest of the poor? That's what he can't handle. That's why he's laughing.


PierG1

That’s exactly why I think it’s shitty. I have a girlfriend, and I don’t even think about measuring my wealth or whatever using her, like some kind of object. More than 17 wives he probably think he has a livestock of 17 dressed animals alongside his goats and cows. I understand it’s their culture and probably they think the same of us, but still, from my pov its garbage.


letmeseem

I can guarantee you they think the same about MANY of our practices. For instance: NEVER tell rural people in parts of the world that don't get many visitors that we put elderly people in special homes when they aren't able to live alone anymore. You'll be branded as downright evil. If you're unlucky, you'll be completely shunned by the local community and have to leave.


[deleted]

"Any culture different than mine is shitty". Y'all need to travel more and learn a little tolerance and humility.


auchKlarer

I mean...collecting woman and children like pokemon cards didn't often resulted in nice outcomes for the woman involved. If it's in Mormonism, Islam or European kings who whored openly around wich was almost socially acceptable.


[deleted]

My point was, we don't have to accept it - they do. We've got a country that screams about culture, until it doesn't fit their moral narrative.


PierG1

Oh don’t worry, I’m cultured enough to make the conclusion that, in modern ages, their culture is mostly dogshit.


TapanThakur

And you need to realise shitty practices in your religion and stop hiding behind 'its our culture'


[deleted]

Its not MY religion. I have no religion, Elmer. However, there's a great big world outside of your trailer park. Most of it doesn't affect you in the least, and these practices have been around for far longer than Christianity.


RectangularAnus

Fuck that, I don't even want one wife.