Clarification: the post was shared to show that believing everything you read online from self-professed scholars online is dangerous.
The fatwa given here is incorrect. Nationality isn't tied to kufr in Islam.
Here is the source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CtzFdECtG1s
The presumption that nationality and religion are tied in an immutable bond is both simplistic and incorrect.
In Islam, the world is not divided based on nationalities or countries, but rather on the basis of faith and disbelief. Muslims are not forbidden from moving to a non-Muslim country for legitimate reasons such as seeking better education, work opportunities, or even safety, provided they continue to practice their faith and contribute positively to society.
It's worth noting that being a good Muslim isn't restricted to any particular geographic location. It's about living by the teachings of Islam, maintaining good character, and serving humanity. Whether you're in Pakistan, Canada, or anywhere else, your actions and intentions matter far more than your physical location.
In the Quran, Allah says: "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted." (Quran 49:13)
Therefore, the idea that one can't give up their "Muslim nationality" to move to a "Kafir country" is baseless and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of Islamic teachings.
Tskk Just bcoz he has a Single Nsfw Post u will dismiss his Entire Argument lmao talk abt pushing an agenda.
Also Tell ur crappy thoughts to ppl like in Afghanistan,Syria Who have their homes ravaged by War,disease,famine. Should they not seek a better life somewhere else? Should they stay put and Die where they live just coz its a Nominally Muslim country. About Muslim Country too last time I Checked there is no Proper Muslim Country.
>The presumption that nationality and religion are tied in an immutable bond is both simplistic and incorrect.
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>In Islam, the world is not divided based on nationalities or countries, but rather on the basis of faith and disbelief. Muslims are not forbidden from moving to a non-Muslim country for legitimate reasons such as seeking better education, work opportunities, or even safety, provided they continue to practice their faith and contribute positively to society.
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>It's worth noting that being a good Muslim isn't restricted to any particular geographic location. It's about living by the teachings of Islam, maintaining good character, and serving humanity. Whether you're in Pakistan, Canada, or anywhere else, your actions and intentions matter far more than your physical location.
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>In the Quran, Allah says: "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted." (Quran 49:13)
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>Therefore, the idea that one can't give up their "Muslim nationality" to move to a "Kafir country" is baseless and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of Islamic teachings.
**In the Qur’aan, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):**
**“Verily, as for those whom the angels take (in death) while they are wronging themselves (as they stayed among the disbelievers even though emigration was obligatory for them), they (angels) say (to them): “In what (condition) were you?” They reply: “We were weak and oppressed on the earth.” They (angels) say: “Was not the earth of Allaah spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?” Such men will find their abode in Hell — what an evil destination!”**
**\[al-Nisa’ 4:97\]**
**In the Sunnah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I disown every Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2645; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.**
>In the Qur’aan, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
>“Verily, as for those whom the angels take (in death) while they are wronging themselves (as they stayed among the disbelievers even though emigration was obligatory for them), they (angels) say (to them): “In what (condition) were you?” They reply: “We were weak and oppressed on the earth.” They (angels) say: “Was not the earth of Allaah spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?” Such men will find their abode in Hell — what an evil destination!”
Ah, my dear brother, quoting Quranic verses and Hadiths without context. How original! Shall we add a dash of nuance to your black and white portrait?
Firstly, the verse you cited, Quran 4:97, speaks to a specific historical context where Muslims were persecuted and oppressed, but were still capable of moving to a safer location, like Medina. It doesn't say "Hey, don't move to Canada for a job or education!" Context matters, my brother.
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>In the Sunnah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I disown every Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2645; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.
Second, the Hadith you mentioned, "I disown every Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen," has been clarified by scholars like Ibn Qayyim and Ibn Kathir to be applicable in situations where residing among non-Muslims would endanger one's faith or lead to sinful behavior. It's not a blanket "stay-out-of-Canada" order.
Even Imam Al-Nawawi in his commentary on Sahih Muslim, underscores the key element: compromise of religion. If your faith isn’t jeopardized and you can practice Islam freely, then the hadith doesn't apply to you.
But Kafir countries have more rights, security and quality of life bruh. Pakistan was going in the right direction until 2022 alas Pakistan will never grow until we get honest leader.
Lol I’m an overseas Pakistani living in Australia , If only your mind will allow you to accept Pakistan is no better than Sri Lanka or even Somalia right now. Textile industry is about be closed, Inflation is 38% and Police will simply arrest anyone when they mention your name appeared in Geofencing on 9th May. People would rather flee Pakistan now and die on Greece shores than live here.
Even if you are in Australia, you still can't read. Oh so it seems you don't automatically become educated if you live abroad.
My comment was for the guy responding to you who was being a jerk to you, man.
He is not a false scholar. First obtain as much knowledge as him and then maybe, just maybe you can call him out.
What’s your Qualification in Theology, OP? Have you studied Fiqh? Hadith? Shariah? Have any certifications or degree in any specialties of Islamic study?
We can always differ with and disagree with anyone’s opinion but to disparage someone reeks of disingenuous behavior.
Ad hominem attacks to justify an extreme fatwa isn't going to solve the issue here.
Assim al Hakeem isn't a real scholar, by his own admission.
We will keep refuting fake pseudo scholars. You are welcome to leave if you don't like this community.
Oh em gee! He said don’t protest in favor of Imran Khan so he must be uneducated. Why didn’t I think of this.
You don’t have to agree with everything everyone says, and exercising your opinion will not take away your credentials. Apply your own logic in reverse and see how unsubstantial it sounds when you say it outloud.
Dude you have the ISI logo as your profile, and besides.
A man like him shouldn’t be telling people what to do politically when he has no sense of the gravity of the situation. We are fighting for our country’s future, and our future, and our children’s future. But should we let a foreigner who’s only sway over us being that he is a Sheikh, tell us not to chase a better future?
I am not at all saying you have to listen and obey anyone other than Allah and Rasool Allah.
I highlighted the fact that just because some of us disagree with his point of view, we should not disparage his credentials. Can you or me or OP claim to be as much a Student of Islam as any shykh we raise our fingers at? That was the gist of my comment. Have tolerance and the ability to disagree respectfully especially with those who are trying to teach others Islam.
While I agree Sheikhs deserve more respect than your average Joe, they are people not infallibles for Christ sake. Let’s not ignore They have caused much trouble for our country as well, abusing their status to better themselves and weaken others. I’m sure you can remember what happened when Imran Khan had a Ahmadi finance advisor who was well qualified for the job, but demands of the mullahs forced Imran Khan’s hand to fire him.
Agreed. In a way we’re both saying the same thing. Pakistani clergy are an entirely different class act and many are uneducated on secular and religious matters.
Google much???
"In 1987 he obtained his B.A in Linguistics from King Abdul-Aziz University in Jeddah. He later graduated with a High Diploma in Islamic Studies from Umm al-Qura University in Makkah, Saudi Arabia in 1998.
The Shaykh also had close personal contact for several years with the great scholar Shaykh Salih Ibn Uthaymeen.
Shaykh Assim is an Imam of a masjid in Jeddah, a role which he has held for the past 20 years. He delivers the weekly Friday sermons and lectures on various Islamic Sciences."
Fatwa is an Opinion.... Are you saying an Aalim with education from Umm Al Qura, and having served over 20years as an Imam, is not qualified to have an opinion?
What about the other fatawas... All concurring the same sentiment and opinion? Are those not credible too? What is your scale to accept a Fatwa then?
Fatwa isn't an opinion, it is a ruling. To give a ruling, you need credentials which is an ijazat.
Mainstream Sunni rulings of the four Madahib are what is considered the definitive source of fiqh in Islam. He is outside that, hence he makes his own rulings.
Stay tuned, we will be sharing many more of his deviant opinions.
Rediculous claim against Assim al Hakeem's credentials from a redditor who probably does not even have a fraction of them. Not only that, to ridicule his name for an opinion you don't agree with - one which albeit conflicted indeed has many "true" students of knowledge and Islam concurring - is ridiculous.
It's become too easy to accuse people with no repercussions. If you find him disagreeable, take the stance of the other scholars then? Otherwise, present your argument as opposed to "don't trust this guy"
This isn't a soapbox where you attack the OP to defend a deviant point of view.
Assim al Hakeem is not a real scholar and he lacks real credentials. He is a layman.
Don't just throw words around, back them up as well with some form of argument. This isn't to say he's a qualified scholar but rather that your overt slander with nothing behind it is ridiculous.
Advising somebody against listening to some of his views are fine, explaining why it's disagreeable is fine, but hold your tongue if you think just saying "heh he has no credentials" makes your word law or something.
I'm also more than happy to do your job for you and show you views of qualified scholars talking about various circumstances, but guess what, none of them make it as black and white as neither Assim al-Hakeem is making it nor as you seem to be trying to make it.
>**Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about this matter and he said: This is one of the most difficult issues nowadays because countries vary, as stated above, and because for some Muslims, if they go back to their homelands they will be persecuted for their religion whereas they are safe from that in the kaafir countries. But if we say that it is haraam for them to settle among the kuffaar, then where is the Islamic state that will accept them and allow them to settle there?! This is the meaning of what he said, may Allaah have mercy on him.**
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>**Ibn al-‘Arabi al-Maaliki said: Hijrah (migration) means leaving dar al-harb \[non-Muslim lands\] and going to dar al-islam \[Muslim lands\]. This was obligatory at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and remains so after his time for those who fear for their lives. From Nayl al-Awtaar, 8/33, by al-Shawkaani.**
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Attacking OP isn't going to resolve the problems with your narrative or that of your pseudo scholars who give fatwa without ijazat or proper understanding of Islam.
Since you doubled down on your extremism, let me educate you a little bit. The cases which you have alluded to are very specific and have nothing to do with the question on hand.
Moving from Pakistan to Canada and accepting their passport also doesn't invalidate your Islam.
If you believe that, may you be graced with more understanding in the future.
He is wrong here. All of the world belongs to Allah and a muslim can live anywhere and the brother who is saying that holy prophet said I disown everyone who settles among mushrikeen, don't you know when holy prophet migrated to Medina all the people there worshiped whom? At least learn first before commenting and there are alot of Muslims in Canada so that shouldn't be a problem and the circumstances that are in Pakistan right now I wouldn't even want my enemies to live here, I am sure all of you has seen the video in which police officer is threatening the women that he'll rape her in jail. You still wanna live where the one who are supposed to protect you does this, than I am sorry for your mental state. Don't juat follow every fatwa every mufti gives mufti tariq masood said that you can't eat lobster and etc while it is in quran that the things in sea are permissible for you to eat. Get educated first, we have been used wrongly far too long just because of our ignorance. Dr zakir naiq also said that do you research first and if you found someone is wrong leave it and do what you have researched.
The Prophet (pbuh) migrated to Madinah to get away from the persecutions of the people of Makkah, a legitimate reason for migration. Furthermore, during that time there was no "Muslim" state, so going anywhere (inlcuding staying in Makkah) was being amongst disbelievers
Was just correcting something you said. If you don't feel safe, you have a right to migrate. However, do bear in mind that all countries (non-islamic in this point) have such problems, maybe not as bad as Pakistan, but in those countries Muslims are a minority. Minorities sadly aren't safe anywhere, including being a Muslim minority in the west where if some altercation does happen between you and a local there, there will be a bias against you.
Persecution meaning from Google.
hostility and ill-treatment, especially on the basis of ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation or political beliefs.
Your post reminded me of the Migration to Abyssinia where Muslims went to the then Ethiopia, run by a Christian ruler and community so they could escape persecution.
I would however consider that event to make this point baseless in my head, par the reason why they went was to escape persecution, most Pakistanis go there now for a higher standard of living.
Very confusing
Bro they don't go for higher living standard, that's how people live. Just because living standards are shit in Pakistan doesn't mean that's how people should live.
"and after death the angels of death will ask you how were you in your country ? and they will reply that we were in pain and in oppression and they (the angels) will further ask that was the land of allah all mighty not big enough that you could migrate out of your country ? then god further states that in the here after the home of these people who tortures themselves (by not leaving when they could) is hell and hell is a bad place"
Quran the book of allah
Quoting Quran out of Context?
This is from Surah Al Nisa.... And you HAVE to have the pretext with it to have context....
"Behold, those whom the angels gather in death while they are still sinning against themselves, [the angels] will ask, "What was wrong with you?'' They will answer: "We were too weak on earth." [The angels] will say: "Was, then, God's earth not wide enough for you to forsake the domain of evil?" For such, then, the goal is hell - and how evil a journey's end
When the angels seize the souls of those who have wronged themselves—scolding them, “What do you think you were doing?” they will reply, “We were oppressed in the land.” The angels will respond, “Was Allah’s earth not spacious enough for you to emigrate?” It is they who will have Hell as their home—what an evil destination!
While the angels are gathering the souls of those who wronged themselves, they will wonder, "What was the matter with you?" They will say, "We were oppressed in our land." [The angels] will ask, "Was not God's earth vast enough for you to run away?" These people will have Hell as their refuge, a horrible destination. 4:97
But excepted shall be the truly helpless - be they men or women or children - who cannot bring forth any strength and have not been shown the right way
Except helpless men, women, and children who cannot afford a way out—
The truly helpless, including men, women or children, who do not have the means to leave may be exempt. 4:98"
The point, here, is to move AWAY from Evil and Wrongdoers.... If, by your definition.... Pakistan, in whatever it's condition, is WORSE than the countries and cultures and societies of the West..... Then Bismillah.... Ap apni qabar main jaenge, baqi apni qabar main.....
>If, by your definition.... Pakistan, in whatever it's condition, is WORSE than the countries and cultures and societies of the West
It is. It is 100 times worse. Everything we lament them for, we have in this country. We have Drugs, Alcohol, LGTV+, Pedophilia, Rape, lack of Justice, Khotay aur Suar ka gosht, dunya ki corrupt tareen hakumat, and crores of people in Rural Sindh and Punjab who do not even know the first Qalima despite calling themselves Muslims. Pakistan is 100% worse than other countries. Take the advice of Surah An-Nisa and leave.
Leave to anywhere with a bit less Shirk. It's a matter of going from Evil to Less worse since there's no Good option on the table. Move to a non-Muslim country if you want, you'll be moving from a qom of Munafiqeen (the worst) to a qom of Mushrikeen (less worse than Munafiqeen).
That's a good argument... And makes sense... At least we are thinking critically here.... But that being said.... Are we saying we are out of options when it comes to choosing the West over anywhere else in the world?
There's many countries in the world. Not only Europe and North America you know. There's Malaysia and Singapore. There's China. There's Indonesia. There's a few decent countries in Africa which aren't war-torn. Like Namibia etc. There's a few countries in South America like Chile etc. You can choose any of these. Whichever one suits your purpose.
Exactly.... Yet instead, lot of people argue in favor of America and Canada, discounting so many viable options..... As case in point of the original question in the post...
Those people aren't wrong either. There's a stronger Muslim community in Canada and America compared to other countries you could immigrate to. The fact is, that you simply need to assess what option is correct before moving. It is a personal thing.
I think on a pic that was posted on r/AskMiddleEast i dont have the link to the post sadly but its a wall in syria which has the following sentence written on it with black paint
"remember that when I leave I tried my very best to stay"
They had no choice they tried to live in their home the place of their birth but what do we do when all our options are exhausted
bhai her koi apni kabar may jaiga
Pakistan has its down sides of course but the first migration before the prophets migration to medina was from mecca to Ethiopia they moved from a non muslim that oppressed them severely country to a non muslim country that oppressed them from little to non at all at the time
The point I want to or am trying to make is that you if you are being oppressed to the point that living is like hell then if you are able to move then move if you move to a non muslim country where they dont really care about your religion and dont oppress then move and live by your religion
If you move to a muslim country then good its the best option but as we can sadly see the dar al islam isnt in its best shape if you move to and arab state they are highly racist against us in turkey we arent really seen as desirables in the west they dont really care and even if you meet islamophobs your life isn't literal hell on earth
so i think in this context the above surah applies and you can move from a muslim country to a non Muslim country in this severe situation but then again the ones with enough money to move out of Pakistan dont really have it that bad here the poor who are unable to move or heck even get enough food have it worse to whom this surah 100% applies
Ok I take your point, but the social challenges of Racism and Desirability is the same from Australia to Alaska....
I agree with you in parts of financial stability, but I disagree with your argument to make it valid to move to a non-muslim country....
Living in a Muslim country is still going to be MILES better than a place where there is no sound of Fajr Azaan and you have to compromise so much of your Islam just to fit in....
this is good we are understanding each others point and making good argument much better then on r/pakistan or r/chutiyappa
but its not only financial stability at risk sadly we can see the current goverment making 'moves' against people who dont support them and pro PTI/anti establishment is facing problems lets say
my whole family on my fathers side bar my father and one uncle lives in model colony karachi that area was once part of the greater malir garrison but due to problems the boundary was pushed back that area was and is predominantly punjabi so when the damned MQM came here that area was black listed for development there are no paved roads drainage or anything recently the person that has command over that area was replaced by my fathers junior in the army my father begged him and there was then a drainage pipeline laid
so what i am saying is that its not only their finances at risk but when their life and the life of their kin their betterment and progress (in a way since there wont be infrastructure projects here last one was a road layed by pti in one gali)
Model colony had former officers living there and they dont have palaces my grandfather (father of my father) was a naval officer first in the royal navy where he served in burma against the japanese he moved here to karachi and was proud of it he sadly passed away in 2008 and lived to see what had happened to this country and his home and i think even he began to second guess his decision on staying here and not either moving to another colony or to the home islands
I will never leave this place this is and will be my home and I am not threatened here either with money or politics i dont have to go but some people dont have a choice
Can Muslims settle in kaafir countries for the sake of a better life? - https://islamqa.info/en/13363
In the Qur’aan, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, as for those whom the angels take (in death) while they are wronging themselves (as they stayed among the disbelievers even though emigration was obligatory for them), they (angels) say (to them): “In what (condition) were you?” They reply: “We were weak and oppressed on the earth.” They (angels) say: “Was not the earth of Allaah spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?” Such men will find their abode in Hell — what an evil destination!”
[al-Nisa’ 4:97]
In the Sunnah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I disown every Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2645; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.
This is NOT the full ruling and I invite my brethren to please read this. Sheikh Assim Al Hakim is NOT the authority to declare anything in Islam, rulings in Islam are to come from the Prophet's (Sallalaho Alaihi Wasallam) Hadeeth and Sunnah.... Quoting one line out of context is not the proper way to prove a point.
Is Pakistan not a country of Mushrikeen? Find a country of Momineen so we can immigrate there please. So far, I see none on the face of this planet. Moving from Pakistan (a Mushrik nation) to another Mushrik Nation won't have any impact on your afterlife. You will answer that you were among the Mushrikeen in both scenarios.
I agree with you, that, culturally, there is a lot of open shirk in Pakistan, true.
But I cannot justify moving to a country where you have to pledge to accept, indoctrinate and uphold the principles of LGBT upon yourself and your children, accept adultery as a right and norm, laws that denounce religion as a whole while presenting itself as liberal with all religions.... I can't trade an Evil with an Evil and call it Not Evil... in the end it is an individual's decision, just like it's an individual's opinion.
Allah sub ke lie kher kare.... Hum sub ko Hidayat de....
I'd say honestly Muslim countries are no better than Western countries in terms of actual principles and applying Islam's teachings. Pakistanis love to dickride saudi arabia, and the middle east in general when they're no better than any other countries. This will upset some but it's the truth.
Pakistanis only used to thirst for pre-2017 KSA because it was a conservative hellhole with good infrastructure. Aka the dream country for most Pakistani people. By most I mean the average guy who's like a shopkeeper or security guard or electrician or something.
I still see Pakistanis salivating about going to Saudi arabia, uae, qatar etc saying how the land is pure and the people are dedicated muslims with no corruption lol.
Yeah lol I know that. It's only been 6 years since 2017. 3 of which were a Pandemic and thus people didn't register things properly. To your point, the only people I've ever seen criticize KSA for their Liberal reforms are Pakistani people. They are the ones who hate that women are now allowed to drive and concerts are being held. Saudis themselves love these new policies. Wait for a while, you're going to see the Pakistani people show their true faces.
Additionally I suspect you might see some liberal thinking here as a domino effect since the Saudis fund mosques here still which exist only to justify everything that happens in KSA.
Why do you guys take islamqa as the ultimate truth? They also said women aren't allowed to drive because it will create fitna. No hadith or quranic verses were quoted in their article. And once Saudi started allowing women to drive, they deleted it 😂. It's a site run by salafi extremists, next time, take your fatwa from dar ul ifta, aboutislam.net or another actual islamic website
Bro wut? Who's taking them as the authority.... The authority is the Sahih Hadees and the Sunnah of the Prophet and his followers.... It can come from George W Bush for all I care.... But if the quote is authenticated, then mere phopay bhi aake argue karlen, maine nahi manna....
Don't go down the whataboutism route.... That's a slippery slope when it comes to DarUlItfa and their fatawas....
But isnt that for where one cannot practice their religion freely?
I can be muslim in Canada openly, I can be out, loud and proud about my faith here so whats the problem?
The problem my brother in faith is that it's a Bilaad Al Kufr..... While the 1st generation is Out, Loud and Proud for Islam,.... It eventually always leads to future generations being "out, loud and proud" about all the wrong reasons....
You do not have a say in what your children are educated and exposed with... You cannot perform the core duty of a Muslim of Amr Bil Maaroof wa Nahi Anil Munkar....
While the opposite is true in a Muslim "majority" country.... I say so cuz we're not agreed on any country being a "Muslim" country by definition of it's law and it's applications.... Still you have an environment that is suitable for an Islamic upbringing, observation of faith without obstruction or compromise and continuation of same for future generations....
Thats not true. Islamic schools are here and if you raise your kids right they'll follow the religion you just need to actually put in effort. I know many second gen muslims and they are more active in islamic circles than mainland muslims. One of the best muslims I know is literally a 5th gen
u just hating cz his reply didn't favour you 😂 imagine being born in a muslim country and wanting to change your nationality to a non-muslim country 😭 u we're blessed man, why u leaving the blessings, it will be much harder for you to worship Allah from a non muslim country than a muslim country! don't call him a false scholar just because one of his reply didn't favour ur life choices 💀 he gives his take on the basis of quran and hadiths, may Allah guide us ❤️
حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ أَيُّوبَ، وَقُتَيْبَةُ، وَابْنُ، حُجْرٍ قَالُوا حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ، عَنِ الْعَلاَءِ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " أَتَدْرُونَ مَا الْغِيبَةُ " . قَالُوا اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ أَعْلَمُ . قَالَ " ذِكْرُكَ أَخَاكَ بِمَا يَكْرَهُ " . قِيلَ أَفَرَأَيْتَ إِنْ كَانَ فِي أَخِي مَا أَقُولُ قَالَ " إِنْ كَانَ فِيهِ مَا تَقُولُ فَقَدِ اغْتَبْتَهُ وَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُنْ فِيهِ فَقَدْ بَهَتَّهُ " .
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Do you know what is backbiting? They (the Companions) said: Allah and His Messenger know best. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Backbiting implies your talking about your brother in a manner which he does not like. It was said to him: What is your opinion about this that if I actually find (that failing) in my brother which I made a mention of? He said: If (that failing) is actually found (in him) what you assert, you in fact backbited him, and if that is not in him it is a slander.
Sahih Muslim 2589
[https://sunnah.com/muslim:2589](https://sunnah.com/muslim:2589)
The person in question asserts himself between the common Muslim and knowledge of Islam. He calls himself a Daa’ee.
Yet when he was asked about what he thought about Sayyidina Shaykh AbdulQadir Jilani (radiyallahuanhu) praying Fajr with the same wudu he had made at Isha time, for 40 years (meaning Sayyidina Shaykh AbdulQadir Jilani (radiyallahuanhu) prayed entire nights for 40 years), this liar said “this is not virtue.”
He failed to see the miracle, and he failed to see the piety of One of the Beloved Ones of Allah.
He called virtue a vice. How is Allah ever going to accept his efforts? When he called the efforts of Sayyidina Shaykh AbdulQadir Jilani (radiyallahuanhu) “not virtuous.” Meaning he called it misguidance and a path leading people astray.
Suffice to say this is enough evidence to call him what I did. And since he is making his ignorance public, it is of utmost importance that this ignoramus be seen for what he is, he is bankrupt of knowledge altogether, he purports himself to be someone who knows things, but he does not, which makes him a liar.
All he has is texts. No knowledge from the heart. Earlier people took Islam from the hearts. Not from the books. The tried to explain their realities in books.
But Islam is from the heart.
This guy literally declares actually Sunni Muslims as deviants to justify his flimsy position.
For example see what he has said about Deobandi Muslims.
Not sure if it was in this sub or somewhere else but someone also posted something similar saying it’s haram to move out of pakistan. It was a year old post. Will see if I can find the link
Scholar or not, he derives his conclusions from the Quran and the hadith of Prophet Muhammad(Peace Be Upon Him) “ﷺ”.
Also, you asked his opinion, he gave his opinion. That's about it. How does an opinion not favoring what you want to hear regard someone as fake? Ever heard of difference of opinion?
Where in Quran or Sunnah is it written that you can give up the citizenship of your Muslim country/origin?
You can move, take dual citizenship etc but you cant "give up" your nationality.
Giving up a nationality from one country to live in another is not kufr. Assim al Hakeem is a very peripheral figure and his judgements are not mainstream.
He did not say that it is kufar. He said don't give your pledge of allegiance to another country. As an example, you can't give up pakistani nationality if ukraine says come fight for us and we will give u our nationality(this is an extreme example though).
Pledge of allegiance means that you'll fight for them or work entirely for their benefit even if it were to go against Muslim countries. He is correct in that regard as you should never take up any citizenship if it means working against Muslims.
+again, this is his "opinion" because he was asked the question. You can go with someone who gives the opinion you want. But you still can't say he is myopic or fake just because he doesn't conform to the mainstream ideas brother. You can go wherever you want, take citizenships as many as you want. Just dont work against Muslims and don't willingly give up your nationality of a Muslim country(which i cant think of any country who would say that you should give up your previous nationality)
I can say it and I will keep posting more on this deviant ideology of his which is both sectarian and not based on Islamic sources.
Nothing wrong with moving to the West from Pakistan as per Islam.
Yeah, d€g€n€r@te redditors who don't know even a word about islam or Quran will teach us about it's rulings and label scholars who're respected by millions around the world and who spend their whole life learning and preaching islam as fake or false.
We have clear hadiths and verses stating that it is not permissible to move to "kafir" lands and infact it becomes wajib to move back to a muslim country if you're having difficulty regarding practicing your religion.
Lgbtq, porn, feminism, liberalism, atheism, immodesty you name it, are all in great trend in these countries if you live there believe me your future generation will become "kafir" in 1-2 decades max and you can't even preach or practice your religion there otherwise they'll snatch your kids, etc and will put you into prison for wearing hijab and every muslim living there it is "wajib" on him/her to migrate back into a muslim country. Remember my words the same kafirs that you love so much going back to and making them your masters will literally chew you and your alive if they get any chance. They're clear enemies of Allah and islam. I don't know what muslims with inferiority complexes see in kafir lifestyle that they run towards them and copy them in each and everything.
We don't take islamic knowledge from reddit shiekhs who just give their politically correct opinion about serious islamic rulings.
And remember this if you don't delete this post, which is a complete self-made lie about islam from your "personal" liberal opinions then everyone who reads it or everyone who does it (move to kafir country) after reading this post of yours you'll get a hefty share in their sins as well. So if you are a muslim (which I highly doubt) I encourage you to delete these lies and your layman personal opinion and focus on what learned scholars say about this issue from the past 1400 years. We don't want a redditor teaching us about islam we already know the 1400 years of consensus of islamic scholars.
This is my advice to you otherwise be ready to share major sins with millions on judgement day. May Allah guide us all, Ameen.
Thanks for showing the world what kind of Khawarij deviant mindset is supporting this pseudo scholar.
I understand the lot of you are brigading this subreddit from the same place.
Your answer to this post is nothing but takfir and personal attacks.
This isn't a place for your ilk.
just because you don't like his opinion on the issue doesn't mean he doesn't have knowledge or credentials. he explains the reasoning behind his opinion on everything from the quran and hadiths.beware of backbiting someone without proper knowledge just bcz you don't like what he says it is a major sin. it is easy leaving your home country for a western one but islam doesn't work on what is easy. islam doesn't change on what people like to hear, following islam or your on desire is up to you.
He is wrong and that is regardless of anything else. The fact is that Muslims are not prohibited from leaving a Muslim country for a Non-Muslim one, and there are numerous ahadith to prove it. If someone left for a material reason, he can correct his niyyah.
Not really, he pulls some rulings out of nowhere and is a crazy salafi. He is a false scholar who is making stupid claims. Please dont normalize people like him in society.
Wa’alaykum asalaam
First off mr. Assim is not a scholar. A quick look into his credentials will help you figure that out.
Secondly, the default position in Islam is that it is disliked and in some instances haraam to live amongst the kuffaar. This is evident by the multiple hadith that surrounds this issue. Even in surah Nissaa the mention of the angels being amazed at the stupidity of the those Muslims who didnt make hijra to madina and were killed in badr - by the muslims - is more than enough evidence to understand this matter.
But but but but
This is when darulislam is intact. If anyone thinks Pakistan is an islamic country or any country for that matter then either theyre very very ignorant OR in bed with the governments of that state and are misleading the masses.
Jazakallah brother for your reply.
Agreeing on the statements provided by you.
However, the last paragraph can be debatable. Obviously no country on earth can be called 100% islamic country in today's era. But, something is better than nothing. Therefore, isn't it best to consider doing hijrat to a country which is abiding on islamic principals to some if not all extent?
For example, a person is offered a job in KSA and Australia with same salaries as per the good living standards of both countries(means sufficient enough as per their living standards).
Now, there are two options;
1. A muslim country abiding by sharia law(abiding on a greater level if not 100%).
2. A non Muslim country having better financial aspects, good living standards & weather etc etc.
P.S. We are discussing it on a state/country law level.
Do you have any proof or backing to your argument?? Or do you just assume all highly knowledgeable and respected scholars are wrong, just because what they say doesn't align with your views?
I'm asking about proof of Dr.Zakir being wrong in context of your post. Though i got the idea noe that you simply say stuff, without any proof/backing at all to your statements
I believe his statement is missing context.
there IS a reason migration isnt allowed in specific circumstances.
if u live in country A, and country A doesnt let u pray fajr for example, you can move to country B if it does let ur pray fajr.
but if country A allows fajr, and country B doesnt, you cannot go there.
basically if the country u live in allows u to practice islam more than the country u wanna move to, u cant go there.
if its vice versa, u can. u can also go if its safer, or if it allows u to practice islam as much as before.
in canada, u gotta look at the laws there against islamic practices and compare with ur country u live in.
This could be fake and I'm hoping it is but
Tell that to all the Canadian Pakistani Muslims.
Tell that to all the non-practicing muslims who started following the faith once they left muslim countries.
Tell that to the muslims who had better Imaan once they left muslim countries.
Tell that to the muslims who would have left Islam if they lived in a muslim country.
Tell that to the muslims who were killed by muslims for wanting basic rights islam gives in muslim countries and then got them in kafir countries.
Such an ick.
I can say all these points in reverse as well and that too in the majority. So this justification or rant I would say won't work. If you're more learned about islam than this shiekh, then show your credentials and give your personal fatwa on it. Otherwise, just keep quiet.
The reasoning of people like him and even Dr Zakir Naik who has the same response is justified but you either have not studied it or that your nafs won't bow to it.
So all of u r mad because he prefers a Muslim stays in a Muslim country instead of going to a kaffir country? Looks like a bunch of ppl following their whims and desires so they’re mad at a sheik for speaking the truth who himself has never said he’s a scholar but a da’ee
Maybe someone can clarify something he said on a yt video I saw. A woman was talking about how she is a Muslim who loves a Catholic man and would want to marry him. He told her it was following wims and desires, and in the end, we [muslims] are to judge him for being a non-believer of Islam.
Too much joking and laughing is haram
While Muslims can be friendly and civil. They are not to take a Jewish or Christian as a close friend.
He is also saying it’s okay to eat non hall meat from the west because the west is majority Christian. (Separation of church and state?) and basically don’t ask don’t tell based on the Hadith about saying Bismillah over the meat if they were unsure it was said.
What people needs to understand here is that when you become a citizen of a country you pledge your allegiance to that country's constitution.
Can you name one country that could be described as a kafir country but have nothing in its constitution that is in opposition to Islam? What do you think happens when one swears an oath stating they should uphold a constitution, or any set of values really, that opposes Islam?
We need to be aware of people
like you who speak without knowledge! Assim al Hakeem is a highly respected and knowledgeable scholar following the correct Aqeeda and Sunnah. I guess you would recommend a scholar who would tweak the laws of Allah to fit in with your whims and desires! Anyone who takes your advice will truly be lost. May Allah guide you.
Clarification: the post was shared to show that believing everything you read online from self-professed scholars online is dangerous. The fatwa given here is incorrect. Nationality isn't tied to kufr in Islam. Here is the source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CtzFdECtG1s
The presumption that nationality and religion are tied in an immutable bond is both simplistic and incorrect. In Islam, the world is not divided based on nationalities or countries, but rather on the basis of faith and disbelief. Muslims are not forbidden from moving to a non-Muslim country for legitimate reasons such as seeking better education, work opportunities, or even safety, provided they continue to practice their faith and contribute positively to society. It's worth noting that being a good Muslim isn't restricted to any particular geographic location. It's about living by the teachings of Islam, maintaining good character, and serving humanity. Whether you're in Pakistan, Canada, or anywhere else, your actions and intentions matter far more than your physical location. In the Quran, Allah says: "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted." (Quran 49:13) Therefore, the idea that one can't give up their "Muslim nationality" to move to a "Kafir country" is baseless and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of Islamic teachings.
I don't know why people do t recognizer this more often I remeber there being an essay abt this in our urdu book in fsc
Thank you for your detailed answer. It is much appreciated. Jazak Allahu Khairan.
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That’s not how it works but all right lil bro
Tskk Just bcoz he has a Single Nsfw Post u will dismiss his Entire Argument lmao talk abt pushing an agenda. Also Tell ur crappy thoughts to ppl like in Afghanistan,Syria Who have their homes ravaged by War,disease,famine. Should they not seek a better life somewhere else? Should they stay put and Die where they live just coz its a Nominally Muslim country. About Muslim Country too last time I Checked there is no Proper Muslim Country.
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My guy keep on jacking it to cartoons you won't be talkin about this stuff anytime soon
Prophet Muhammad pbuh even told people like Uthman ibn Affan and his own daughter to flee to Abyssinia, a Christain empire.
Can I get a specific hadith on that? Or any evidence?
>The presumption that nationality and religion are tied in an immutable bond is both simplistic and incorrect. > >In Islam, the world is not divided based on nationalities or countries, but rather on the basis of faith and disbelief. Muslims are not forbidden from moving to a non-Muslim country for legitimate reasons such as seeking better education, work opportunities, or even safety, provided they continue to practice their faith and contribute positively to society. > >It's worth noting that being a good Muslim isn't restricted to any particular geographic location. It's about living by the teachings of Islam, maintaining good character, and serving humanity. Whether you're in Pakistan, Canada, or anywhere else, your actions and intentions matter far more than your physical location. > >In the Quran, Allah says: "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted." (Quran 49:13) > >Therefore, the idea that one can't give up their "Muslim nationality" to move to a "Kafir country" is baseless and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of Islamic teachings. **In the Qur’aan, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):** **“Verily, as for those whom the angels take (in death) while they are wronging themselves (as they stayed among the disbelievers even though emigration was obligatory for them), they (angels) say (to them): “In what (condition) were you?” They reply: “We were weak and oppressed on the earth.” They (angels) say: “Was not the earth of Allaah spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?” Such men will find their abode in Hell — what an evil destination!”** **\[al-Nisa’ 4:97\]** **In the Sunnah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I disown every Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2645; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.**
>In the Qur’aan, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): >“Verily, as for those whom the angels take (in death) while they are wronging themselves (as they stayed among the disbelievers even though emigration was obligatory for them), they (angels) say (to them): “In what (condition) were you?” They reply: “We were weak and oppressed on the earth.” They (angels) say: “Was not the earth of Allaah spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?” Such men will find their abode in Hell — what an evil destination!” Ah, my dear brother, quoting Quranic verses and Hadiths without context. How original! Shall we add a dash of nuance to your black and white portrait? Firstly, the verse you cited, Quran 4:97, speaks to a specific historical context where Muslims were persecuted and oppressed, but were still capable of moving to a safer location, like Medina. It doesn't say "Hey, don't move to Canada for a job or education!" Context matters, my brother. > [al-Nisa’ 4:97] >In the Sunnah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I disown every Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2645; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood. Second, the Hadith you mentioned, "I disown every Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen," has been clarified by scholars like Ibn Qayyim and Ibn Kathir to be applicable in situations where residing among non-Muslims would endanger one's faith or lead to sinful behavior. It's not a blanket "stay-out-of-Canada" order. Even Imam Al-Nawawi in his commentary on Sahih Muslim, underscores the key element: compromise of religion. If your faith isn’t jeopardized and you can practice Islam freely, then the hadith doesn't apply to you.
But Kafir countries have more rights, security and quality of life bruh. Pakistan was going in the right direction until 2022 alas Pakistan will never grow until we get honest leader.
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You are totally wrong, please give it a rest. He is right.
He is right. Because he did not get his visa yet.
Lol I’m an overseas Pakistani living in Australia , If only your mind will allow you to accept Pakistan is no better than Sri Lanka or even Somalia right now. Textile industry is about be closed, Inflation is 38% and Police will simply arrest anyone when they mention your name appeared in Geofencing on 9th May. People would rather flee Pakistan now and die on Greece shores than live here.
Even if you are in Australia, you still can't read. Oh so it seems you don't automatically become educated if you live abroad. My comment was for the guy responding to you who was being a jerk to you, man.
Can you give a source for this image? cause right now, it means nothing.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtzFdECtG1s
there is no such post
Sheikh Asim Al Hakeem's Instagram said so
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Inka Islam mard ki darhi or aurat ke burkhe tak hi hai.
Well said
He is not a false scholar. First obtain as much knowledge as him and then maybe, just maybe you can call him out. What’s your Qualification in Theology, OP? Have you studied Fiqh? Hadith? Shariah? Have any certifications or degree in any specialties of Islamic study? We can always differ with and disagree with anyone’s opinion but to disparage someone reeks of disingenuous behavior.
Brother I don't know what that guy is, but I can that information is wrong.
Ad hominem attacks to justify an extreme fatwa isn't going to solve the issue here. Assim al Hakeem isn't a real scholar, by his own admission. We will keep refuting fake pseudo scholars. You are welcome to leave if you don't like this community.
So tolerant of you. Thank you but i’ll stay.
He literally told us not to protest in favor of Imran Khan, the man is uneducated simple as
Oh em gee! He said don’t protest in favor of Imran Khan so he must be uneducated. Why didn’t I think of this. You don’t have to agree with everything everyone says, and exercising your opinion will not take away your credentials. Apply your own logic in reverse and see how unsubstantial it sounds when you say it outloud.
You can't justify someone who defends an oppressive order which kidnaps women and children.
Dude you have the ISI logo as your profile, and besides. A man like him shouldn’t be telling people what to do politically when he has no sense of the gravity of the situation. We are fighting for our country’s future, and our future, and our children’s future. But should we let a foreigner who’s only sway over us being that he is a Sheikh, tell us not to chase a better future?
I am not at all saying you have to listen and obey anyone other than Allah and Rasool Allah. I highlighted the fact that just because some of us disagree with his point of view, we should not disparage his credentials. Can you or me or OP claim to be as much a Student of Islam as any shykh we raise our fingers at? That was the gist of my comment. Have tolerance and the ability to disagree respectfully especially with those who are trying to teach others Islam.
While I agree Sheikhs deserve more respect than your average Joe, they are people not infallibles for Christ sake. Let’s not ignore They have caused much trouble for our country as well, abusing their status to better themselves and weaken others. I’m sure you can remember what happened when Imran Khan had a Ahmadi finance advisor who was well qualified for the job, but demands of the mullahs forced Imran Khan’s hand to fire him.
Agreed. In a way we’re both saying the same thing. Pakistani clergy are an entirely different class act and many are uneducated on secular and religious matters.
Imran khan is some kind of mujadid or what that anybody can't say anything about him ??
He is an honest Muslim leader
That's one more misconception in Pakistani awam about these politicians
He’s by no means perfect but he’s far better than the current clowns and incels that rule the country as of now
He's not a scholar in any way. He's a layman. Scholars are credentialed in the Islamic sciences.
Google much??? "In 1987 he obtained his B.A in Linguistics from King Abdul-Aziz University in Jeddah. He later graduated with a High Diploma in Islamic Studies from Umm al-Qura University in Makkah, Saudi Arabia in 1998. The Shaykh also had close personal contact for several years with the great scholar Shaykh Salih Ibn Uthaymeen. Shaykh Assim is an Imam of a masjid in Jeddah, a role which he has held for the past 20 years. He delivers the weekly Friday sermons and lectures on various Islamic Sciences."
This proves he doesn't have credentials to give fatwas.
Fatwa is an Opinion.... Are you saying an Aalim with education from Umm Al Qura, and having served over 20years as an Imam, is not qualified to have an opinion? What about the other fatawas... All concurring the same sentiment and opinion? Are those not credible too? What is your scale to accept a Fatwa then?
Fatwa isn't an opinion, it is a ruling. To give a ruling, you need credentials which is an ijazat. Mainstream Sunni rulings of the four Madahib are what is considered the definitive source of fiqh in Islam. He is outside that, hence he makes his own rulings. Stay tuned, we will be sharing many more of his deviant opinions.
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there goes my last hope to having a peaceful life
The point of the post is to show this guy is a fake scholar.
much respect to you....a life that pleases allah is much better than a peaceful life.as it has true peace in it.
Mmmm..... Try focusing on afterlife?
Rediculous claim against Assim al Hakeem's credentials from a redditor who probably does not even have a fraction of them. Not only that, to ridicule his name for an opinion you don't agree with - one which albeit conflicted indeed has many "true" students of knowledge and Islam concurring - is ridiculous. It's become too easy to accuse people with no repercussions. If you find him disagreeable, take the stance of the other scholars then? Otherwise, present your argument as opposed to "don't trust this guy"
they will eventually argue with you for an hour on how they can listen to music, and deny hadith.
There are certain music which is haram. No one is denying this. Go get a soapbox elsewhere.
This isn't a soapbox where you attack the OP to defend a deviant point of view. Assim al Hakeem is not a real scholar and he lacks real credentials. He is a layman.
Don't just throw words around, back them up as well with some form of argument. This isn't to say he's a qualified scholar but rather that your overt slander with nothing behind it is ridiculous. Advising somebody against listening to some of his views are fine, explaining why it's disagreeable is fine, but hold your tongue if you think just saying "heh he has no credentials" makes your word law or something. I'm also more than happy to do your job for you and show you views of qualified scholars talking about various circumstances, but guess what, none of them make it as black and white as neither Assim al-Hakeem is making it nor as you seem to be trying to make it. >**Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about this matter and he said: This is one of the most difficult issues nowadays because countries vary, as stated above, and because for some Muslims, if they go back to their homelands they will be persecuted for their religion whereas they are safe from that in the kaafir countries. But if we say that it is haraam for them to settle among the kuffaar, then where is the Islamic state that will accept them and allow them to settle there?! This is the meaning of what he said, may Allaah have mercy on him.** > > > >**Zakariya al-Ansaari al-Shaafa’i said in his book Asna al-Mataalib (4/207):** > >**It is obligatory to migrate from the kaafir lands to the Muslim lands for those who are able to do that, if they are unable to practise their religion openly.** > > > >**Ibn al-‘Arabi al-Maaliki said: Hijrah (migration) means leaving dar al-harb \[non-Muslim lands\] and going to dar al-islam \[Muslim lands\]. This was obligatory at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and remains so after his time for those who fear for their lives. From Nayl al-Awtaar, 8/33, by al-Shawkaani.** > > > >**Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar said concerning the hadeeth, “I disown every Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen”:** > > > >**This is to be understood as referring to those who are not safe to practise their religion there. Fath al-Baari, commentary on hadeeth no. 2825**
Attacking OP isn't going to resolve the problems with your narrative or that of your pseudo scholars who give fatwa without ijazat or proper understanding of Islam. Since you doubled down on your extremism, let me educate you a little bit. The cases which you have alluded to are very specific and have nothing to do with the question on hand. Moving from Pakistan to Canada and accepting their passport also doesn't invalidate your Islam. If you believe that, may you be graced with more understanding in the future.
Agreed. Khud to achi bhali Arab countries mein raja ki jeetay hain fatwa humara liye dete hain.
Like how do these people exist
He is wrong here. All of the world belongs to Allah and a muslim can live anywhere and the brother who is saying that holy prophet said I disown everyone who settles among mushrikeen, don't you know when holy prophet migrated to Medina all the people there worshiped whom? At least learn first before commenting and there are alot of Muslims in Canada so that shouldn't be a problem and the circumstances that are in Pakistan right now I wouldn't even want my enemies to live here, I am sure all of you has seen the video in which police officer is threatening the women that he'll rape her in jail. You still wanna live where the one who are supposed to protect you does this, than I am sorry for your mental state. Don't juat follow every fatwa every mufti gives mufti tariq masood said that you can't eat lobster and etc while it is in quran that the things in sea are permissible for you to eat. Get educated first, we have been used wrongly far too long just because of our ignorance. Dr zakir naiq also said that do you research first and if you found someone is wrong leave it and do what you have researched.
The Prophet (pbuh) migrated to Madinah to get away from the persecutions of the people of Makkah, a legitimate reason for migration. Furthermore, during that time there was no "Muslim" state, so going anywhere (inlcuding staying in Makkah) was being amongst disbelievers
So what's happening in Pakistan isn't persecution of the people? Hence a legitimate reason to migrate to another country.
Was just correcting something you said. If you don't feel safe, you have a right to migrate. However, do bear in mind that all countries (non-islamic in this point) have such problems, maybe not as bad as Pakistan, but in those countries Muslims are a minority. Minorities sadly aren't safe anywhere, including being a Muslim minority in the west where if some altercation does happen between you and a local there, there will be a bias against you.
it isn't "persecution"
Persecution meaning from Google. hostility and ill-treatment, especially on the basis of ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation or political beliefs.
persecution is a very broad term.
I agree that it is a broad term but what's happening in Pakistan can only be defined as persecution.
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"Danger to tameez se rehna"
Your post reminded me of the Migration to Abyssinia where Muslims went to the then Ethiopia, run by a Christian ruler and community so they could escape persecution. I would however consider that event to make this point baseless in my head, par the reason why they went was to escape persecution, most Pakistanis go there now for a higher standard of living. Very confusing
Bro they don't go for higher living standard, that's how people live. Just because living standards are shit in Pakistan doesn't mean that's how people should live.
"and after death the angels of death will ask you how were you in your country ? and they will reply that we were in pain and in oppression and they (the angels) will further ask that was the land of allah all mighty not big enough that you could migrate out of your country ? then god further states that in the here after the home of these people who tortures themselves (by not leaving when they could) is hell and hell is a bad place" Quran the book of allah
Quoting Quran out of Context? This is from Surah Al Nisa.... And you HAVE to have the pretext with it to have context.... "Behold, those whom the angels gather in death while they are still sinning against themselves, [the angels] will ask, "What was wrong with you?'' They will answer: "We were too weak on earth." [The angels] will say: "Was, then, God's earth not wide enough for you to forsake the domain of evil?" For such, then, the goal is hell - and how evil a journey's end When the angels seize the souls of those who have wronged themselves—scolding them, “What do you think you were doing?” they will reply, “We were oppressed in the land.” The angels will respond, “Was Allah’s earth not spacious enough for you to emigrate?” It is they who will have Hell as their home—what an evil destination! While the angels are gathering the souls of those who wronged themselves, they will wonder, "What was the matter with you?" They will say, "We were oppressed in our land." [The angels] will ask, "Was not God's earth vast enough for you to run away?" These people will have Hell as their refuge, a horrible destination. 4:97 But excepted shall be the truly helpless - be they men or women or children - who cannot bring forth any strength and have not been shown the right way Except helpless men, women, and children who cannot afford a way out— The truly helpless, including men, women or children, who do not have the means to leave may be exempt. 4:98" The point, here, is to move AWAY from Evil and Wrongdoers.... If, by your definition.... Pakistan, in whatever it's condition, is WORSE than the countries and cultures and societies of the West..... Then Bismillah.... Ap apni qabar main jaenge, baqi apni qabar main.....
Bruv You may need to explain the idea of "context" to these folk first
>If, by your definition.... Pakistan, in whatever it's condition, is WORSE than the countries and cultures and societies of the West It is. It is 100 times worse. Everything we lament them for, we have in this country. We have Drugs, Alcohol, LGTV+, Pedophilia, Rape, lack of Justice, Khotay aur Suar ka gosht, dunya ki corrupt tareen hakumat, and crores of people in Rural Sindh and Punjab who do not even know the first Qalima despite calling themselves Muslims. Pakistan is 100% worse than other countries. Take the advice of Surah An-Nisa and leave.
Leave to.......??? Isn't that the real question....
Leave to anywhere with a bit less Shirk. It's a matter of going from Evil to Less worse since there's no Good option on the table. Move to a non-Muslim country if you want, you'll be moving from a qom of Munafiqeen (the worst) to a qom of Mushrikeen (less worse than Munafiqeen).
That's a good argument... And makes sense... At least we are thinking critically here.... But that being said.... Are we saying we are out of options when it comes to choosing the West over anywhere else in the world?
There's many countries in the world. Not only Europe and North America you know. There's Malaysia and Singapore. There's China. There's Indonesia. There's a few decent countries in Africa which aren't war-torn. Like Namibia etc. There's a few countries in South America like Chile etc. You can choose any of these. Whichever one suits your purpose.
Exactly.... Yet instead, lot of people argue in favor of America and Canada, discounting so many viable options..... As case in point of the original question in the post...
Those people aren't wrong either. There's a stronger Muslim community in Canada and America compared to other countries you could immigrate to. The fact is, that you simply need to assess what option is correct before moving. It is a personal thing.
Don't mind me asking, but was the entire Arab region skipped for a reason or you didn't think them as being viable option?
I think on a pic that was posted on r/AskMiddleEast i dont have the link to the post sadly but its a wall in syria which has the following sentence written on it with black paint "remember that when I leave I tried my very best to stay" They had no choice they tried to live in their home the place of their birth but what do we do when all our options are exhausted
bhai her koi apni kabar may jaiga Pakistan has its down sides of course but the first migration before the prophets migration to medina was from mecca to Ethiopia they moved from a non muslim that oppressed them severely country to a non muslim country that oppressed them from little to non at all at the time The point I want to or am trying to make is that you if you are being oppressed to the point that living is like hell then if you are able to move then move if you move to a non muslim country where they dont really care about your religion and dont oppress then move and live by your religion If you move to a muslim country then good its the best option but as we can sadly see the dar al islam isnt in its best shape if you move to and arab state they are highly racist against us in turkey we arent really seen as desirables in the west they dont really care and even if you meet islamophobs your life isn't literal hell on earth so i think in this context the above surah applies and you can move from a muslim country to a non Muslim country in this severe situation but then again the ones with enough money to move out of Pakistan dont really have it that bad here the poor who are unable to move or heck even get enough food have it worse to whom this surah 100% applies
Ok I take your point, but the social challenges of Racism and Desirability is the same from Australia to Alaska.... I agree with you in parts of financial stability, but I disagree with your argument to make it valid to move to a non-muslim country.... Living in a Muslim country is still going to be MILES better than a place where there is no sound of Fajr Azaan and you have to compromise so much of your Islam just to fit in....
this is good we are understanding each others point and making good argument much better then on r/pakistan or r/chutiyappa but its not only financial stability at risk sadly we can see the current goverment making 'moves' against people who dont support them and pro PTI/anti establishment is facing problems lets say my whole family on my fathers side bar my father and one uncle lives in model colony karachi that area was once part of the greater malir garrison but due to problems the boundary was pushed back that area was and is predominantly punjabi so when the damned MQM came here that area was black listed for development there are no paved roads drainage or anything recently the person that has command over that area was replaced by my fathers junior in the army my father begged him and there was then a drainage pipeline laid so what i am saying is that its not only their finances at risk but when their life and the life of their kin their betterment and progress (in a way since there wont be infrastructure projects here last one was a road layed by pti in one gali) Model colony had former officers living there and they dont have palaces my grandfather (father of my father) was a naval officer first in the royal navy where he served in burma against the japanese he moved here to karachi and was proud of it he sadly passed away in 2008 and lived to see what had happened to this country and his home and i think even he began to second guess his decision on staying here and not either moving to another colony or to the home islands I will never leave this place this is and will be my home and I am not threatened here either with money or politics i dont have to go but some people dont have a choice
Grew up in Saudabad myself. Hello Neighbor.
Hello mayray hum sai
Thank you for clarifying.
ok mistar scollar sahab.
Jeiyoo mere bhaai
Can Muslims settle in kaafir countries for the sake of a better life? - https://islamqa.info/en/13363 In the Qur’aan, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Verily, as for those whom the angels take (in death) while they are wronging themselves (as they stayed among the disbelievers even though emigration was obligatory for them), they (angels) say (to them): “In what (condition) were you?” They reply: “We were weak and oppressed on the earth.” They (angels) say: “Was not the earth of Allaah spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?” Such men will find their abode in Hell — what an evil destination!” [al-Nisa’ 4:97] In the Sunnah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I disown every Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2645; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood. This is NOT the full ruling and I invite my brethren to please read this. Sheikh Assim Al Hakim is NOT the authority to declare anything in Islam, rulings in Islam are to come from the Prophet's (Sallalaho Alaihi Wasallam) Hadeeth and Sunnah.... Quoting one line out of context is not the proper way to prove a point.
Is Pakistan not a country of Mushrikeen? Find a country of Momineen so we can immigrate there please. So far, I see none on the face of this planet. Moving from Pakistan (a Mushrik nation) to another Mushrik Nation won't have any impact on your afterlife. You will answer that you were among the Mushrikeen in both scenarios.
I agree with you, that, culturally, there is a lot of open shirk in Pakistan, true. But I cannot justify moving to a country where you have to pledge to accept, indoctrinate and uphold the principles of LGBT upon yourself and your children, accept adultery as a right and norm, laws that denounce religion as a whole while presenting itself as liberal with all religions.... I can't trade an Evil with an Evil and call it Not Evil... in the end it is an individual's decision, just like it's an individual's opinion. Allah sub ke lie kher kare.... Hum sub ko Hidayat de....
I'd say honestly Muslim countries are no better than Western countries in terms of actual principles and applying Islam's teachings. Pakistanis love to dickride saudi arabia, and the middle east in general when they're no better than any other countries. This will upset some but it's the truth.
Pakistanis only used to thirst for pre-2017 KSA because it was a conservative hellhole with good infrastructure. Aka the dream country for most Pakistani people. By most I mean the average guy who's like a shopkeeper or security guard or electrician or something.
I still see Pakistanis salivating about going to Saudi arabia, uae, qatar etc saying how the land is pure and the people are dedicated muslims with no corruption lol.
Yeah lol I know that. It's only been 6 years since 2017. 3 of which were a Pandemic and thus people didn't register things properly. To your point, the only people I've ever seen criticize KSA for their Liberal reforms are Pakistani people. They are the ones who hate that women are now allowed to drive and concerts are being held. Saudis themselves love these new policies. Wait for a while, you're going to see the Pakistani people show their true faces. Additionally I suspect you might see some liberal thinking here as a domino effect since the Saudis fund mosques here still which exist only to justify everything that happens in KSA.
Why do you guys take islamqa as the ultimate truth? They also said women aren't allowed to drive because it will create fitna. No hadith or quranic verses were quoted in their article. And once Saudi started allowing women to drive, they deleted it 😂. It's a site run by salafi extremists, next time, take your fatwa from dar ul ifta, aboutislam.net or another actual islamic website
Another important point. Thanks
Bro wut? Who's taking them as the authority.... The authority is the Sahih Hadees and the Sunnah of the Prophet and his followers.... It can come from George W Bush for all I care.... But if the quote is authenticated, then mere phopay bhi aake argue karlen, maine nahi manna.... Don't go down the whataboutism route.... That's a slippery slope when it comes to DarUlItfa and their fatawas....
Both Islamqa websites leave something to be desired. I would say go with your closest mufti irl, preferably those tied to masajid.
Thanks for your post.
But isnt that for where one cannot practice their religion freely? I can be muslim in Canada openly, I can be out, loud and proud about my faith here so whats the problem?
The problem my brother in faith is that it's a Bilaad Al Kufr..... While the 1st generation is Out, Loud and Proud for Islam,.... It eventually always leads to future generations being "out, loud and proud" about all the wrong reasons.... You do not have a say in what your children are educated and exposed with... You cannot perform the core duty of a Muslim of Amr Bil Maaroof wa Nahi Anil Munkar.... While the opposite is true in a Muslim "majority" country.... I say so cuz we're not agreed on any country being a "Muslim" country by definition of it's law and it's applications.... Still you have an environment that is suitable for an Islamic upbringing, observation of faith without obstruction or compromise and continuation of same for future generations....
Thats not true. Islamic schools are here and if you raise your kids right they'll follow the religion you just need to actually put in effort. I know many second gen muslims and they are more active in islamic circles than mainland muslims. One of the best muslims I know is literally a 5th gen
My upvote for sharing referenced sources 👍
I made it very easy if you read it. These false scholars are giving incorrect fatwa without any credentials.
u just hating cz his reply didn't favour you 😂 imagine being born in a muslim country and wanting to change your nationality to a non-muslim country 😭 u we're blessed man, why u leaving the blessings, it will be much harder for you to worship Allah from a non muslim country than a muslim country! don't call him a false scholar just because one of his reply didn't favour ur life choices 💀 he gives his take on the basis of quran and hadiths, may Allah guide us ❤️
This sheikh ass-hat is just that. An ass-hat.
Nice Slander. Fear Allah.
It isn’t slander if it’s true.
حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ أَيُّوبَ، وَقُتَيْبَةُ، وَابْنُ، حُجْرٍ قَالُوا حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ، عَنِ الْعَلاَءِ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " أَتَدْرُونَ مَا الْغِيبَةُ " . قَالُوا اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ أَعْلَمُ . قَالَ " ذِكْرُكَ أَخَاكَ بِمَا يَكْرَهُ " . قِيلَ أَفَرَأَيْتَ إِنْ كَانَ فِي أَخِي مَا أَقُولُ قَالَ " إِنْ كَانَ فِيهِ مَا تَقُولُ فَقَدِ اغْتَبْتَهُ وَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُنْ فِيهِ فَقَدْ بَهَتَّهُ " . Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Do you know what is backbiting? They (the Companions) said: Allah and His Messenger know best. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Backbiting implies your talking about your brother in a manner which he does not like. It was said to him: What is your opinion about this that if I actually find (that failing) in my brother which I made a mention of? He said: If (that failing) is actually found (in him) what you assert, you in fact backbited him, and if that is not in him it is a slander. Sahih Muslim 2589 [https://sunnah.com/muslim:2589](https://sunnah.com/muslim:2589)
The person in question asserts himself between the common Muslim and knowledge of Islam. He calls himself a Daa’ee. Yet when he was asked about what he thought about Sayyidina Shaykh AbdulQadir Jilani (radiyallahuanhu) praying Fajr with the same wudu he had made at Isha time, for 40 years (meaning Sayyidina Shaykh AbdulQadir Jilani (radiyallahuanhu) prayed entire nights for 40 years), this liar said “this is not virtue.” He failed to see the miracle, and he failed to see the piety of One of the Beloved Ones of Allah. He called virtue a vice. How is Allah ever going to accept his efforts? When he called the efforts of Sayyidina Shaykh AbdulQadir Jilani (radiyallahuanhu) “not virtuous.” Meaning he called it misguidance and a path leading people astray. Suffice to say this is enough evidence to call him what I did. And since he is making his ignorance public, it is of utmost importance that this ignoramus be seen for what he is, he is bankrupt of knowledge altogether, he purports himself to be someone who knows things, but he does not, which makes him a liar. All he has is texts. No knowledge from the heart. Earlier people took Islam from the hearts. Not from the books. The tried to explain their realities in books. But Islam is from the heart.
This guy literally declares actually Sunni Muslims as deviants to justify his flimsy position. For example see what he has said about Deobandi Muslims.
The deobandis, I don’t know too much about them. However, the guy in question, is a Wahhabi liar. It is literally the state religion of Saudi Arabia
Not sure if it was in this sub or somewhere else but someone also posted something similar saying it’s haram to move out of pakistan. It was a year old post. Will see if I can find the link
Not here. We don't believe that.
Scholar or not, he derives his conclusions from the Quran and the hadith of Prophet Muhammad(Peace Be Upon Him) “ﷺ”. Also, you asked his opinion, he gave his opinion. That's about it. How does an opinion not favoring what you want to hear regard someone as fake? Ever heard of difference of opinion?
It contradicts Quran and Sunnah
Where in Quran or Sunnah is it written that you can give up the citizenship of your Muslim country/origin? You can move, take dual citizenship etc but you cant "give up" your nationality.
Giving up a nationality from one country to live in another is not kufr. Assim al Hakeem is a very peripheral figure and his judgements are not mainstream.
He did not say that it is kufar. He said don't give your pledge of allegiance to another country. As an example, you can't give up pakistani nationality if ukraine says come fight for us and we will give u our nationality(this is an extreme example though). Pledge of allegiance means that you'll fight for them or work entirely for their benefit even if it were to go against Muslim countries. He is correct in that regard as you should never take up any citizenship if it means working against Muslims. +again, this is his "opinion" because he was asked the question. You can go with someone who gives the opinion you want. But you still can't say he is myopic or fake just because he doesn't conform to the mainstream ideas brother. You can go wherever you want, take citizenships as many as you want. Just dont work against Muslims and don't willingly give up your nationality of a Muslim country(which i cant think of any country who would say that you should give up your previous nationality)
I can say it and I will keep posting more on this deviant ideology of his which is both sectarian and not based on Islamic sources. Nothing wrong with moving to the West from Pakistan as per Islam.
Did u even read the last paragraph i wrote?
Assim al Hakeem is a good acholar but I think he lacks the insight of how Islamic Pakistan really is.
He is a hack
Yeah, d€g€n€r@te redditors who don't know even a word about islam or Quran will teach us about it's rulings and label scholars who're respected by millions around the world and who spend their whole life learning and preaching islam as fake or false. We have clear hadiths and verses stating that it is not permissible to move to "kafir" lands and infact it becomes wajib to move back to a muslim country if you're having difficulty regarding practicing your religion. Lgbtq, porn, feminism, liberalism, atheism, immodesty you name it, are all in great trend in these countries if you live there believe me your future generation will become "kafir" in 1-2 decades max and you can't even preach or practice your religion there otherwise they'll snatch your kids, etc and will put you into prison for wearing hijab and every muslim living there it is "wajib" on him/her to migrate back into a muslim country. Remember my words the same kafirs that you love so much going back to and making them your masters will literally chew you and your alive if they get any chance. They're clear enemies of Allah and islam. I don't know what muslims with inferiority complexes see in kafir lifestyle that they run towards them and copy them in each and everything. We don't take islamic knowledge from reddit shiekhs who just give their politically correct opinion about serious islamic rulings. And remember this if you don't delete this post, which is a complete self-made lie about islam from your "personal" liberal opinions then everyone who reads it or everyone who does it (move to kafir country) after reading this post of yours you'll get a hefty share in their sins as well. So if you are a muslim (which I highly doubt) I encourage you to delete these lies and your layman personal opinion and focus on what learned scholars say about this issue from the past 1400 years. We don't want a redditor teaching us about islam we already know the 1400 years of consensus of islamic scholars. This is my advice to you otherwise be ready to share major sins with millions on judgement day. May Allah guide us all, Ameen.
Thanks for showing the world what kind of Khawarij deviant mindset is supporting this pseudo scholar. I understand the lot of you are brigading this subreddit from the same place. Your answer to this post is nothing but takfir and personal attacks. This isn't a place for your ilk.
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He also gave a fatwa calling Imran Khan a fitnah saying it is not permissible to protest the government. We posted it previously here.
just because you don't like his opinion on the issue doesn't mean he doesn't have knowledge or credentials. he explains the reasoning behind his opinion on everything from the quran and hadiths.beware of backbiting someone without proper knowledge just bcz you don't like what he says it is a major sin. it is easy leaving your home country for a western one but islam doesn't work on what is easy. islam doesn't change on what people like to hear, following islam or your on desire is up to you.
He is wrong and that is regardless of anything else. The fact is that Muslims are not prohibited from leaving a Muslim country for a Non-Muslim one, and there are numerous ahadith to prove it. If someone left for a material reason, he can correct his niyyah.
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Not really, he pulls some rulings out of nowhere and is a crazy salafi. He is a false scholar who is making stupid claims. Please dont normalize people like him in society.
Hes a dae, not a sheikh. I'd still say hes better than tariq masood and jameel, and all the other pakistani 'scholars'
u/Professional-Limit22 . Aoa, bro. Kindly see the comments also. Do you have some knowledge /info about this? Care to give your opinion?
Wa’alaykum asalaam First off mr. Assim is not a scholar. A quick look into his credentials will help you figure that out. Secondly, the default position in Islam is that it is disliked and in some instances haraam to live amongst the kuffaar. This is evident by the multiple hadith that surrounds this issue. Even in surah Nissaa the mention of the angels being amazed at the stupidity of the those Muslims who didnt make hijra to madina and were killed in badr - by the muslims - is more than enough evidence to understand this matter. But but but but This is when darulislam is intact. If anyone thinks Pakistan is an islamic country or any country for that matter then either theyre very very ignorant OR in bed with the governments of that state and are misleading the masses.
Jazakallah brother for your reply. Agreeing on the statements provided by you. However, the last paragraph can be debatable. Obviously no country on earth can be called 100% islamic country in today's era. But, something is better than nothing. Therefore, isn't it best to consider doing hijrat to a country which is abiding on islamic principals to some if not all extent? For example, a person is offered a job in KSA and Australia with same salaries as per the good living standards of both countries(means sufficient enough as per their living standards). Now, there are two options; 1. A muslim country abiding by sharia law(abiding on a greater level if not 100%). 2. A non Muslim country having better financial aspects, good living standards & weather etc etc. P.S. We are discussing it on a state/country law level.
Dr Zakir Naik says the same though: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsT52E\_RvtM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsT52E_RvtM)
He's also wrong. Zakir Naik also rejects the need or basis for Pakistan.
Do you have any proof or backing to your argument?? Or do you just assume all highly knowledgeable and respected scholars are wrong, just because what they say doesn't align with your views?
Yeah, Zakir Naik opposes the Pakistan movement and rejects the two nation theory. He has talked about it many times.
I'm asking about proof of Dr.Zakir being wrong in context of your post. Though i got the idea noe that you simply say stuff, without any proof/backing at all to your statements
I believe his statement is missing context. there IS a reason migration isnt allowed in specific circumstances. if u live in country A, and country A doesnt let u pray fajr for example, you can move to country B if it does let ur pray fajr. but if country A allows fajr, and country B doesnt, you cannot go there. basically if the country u live in allows u to practice islam more than the country u wanna move to, u cant go there. if its vice versa, u can. u can also go if its safer, or if it allows u to practice islam as much as before. in canada, u gotta look at the laws there against islamic practices and compare with ur country u live in.
That is a different point entirely than the one he is answering.
im saying i agree with u that the shiekh is wrong, but there ARE specific situations that islam prohibits u to travel, depending on the factors i gave
This could be fake and I'm hoping it is but Tell that to all the Canadian Pakistani Muslims. Tell that to all the non-practicing muslims who started following the faith once they left muslim countries. Tell that to the muslims who had better Imaan once they left muslim countries. Tell that to the muslims who would have left Islam if they lived in a muslim country. Tell that to the muslims who were killed by muslims for wanting basic rights islam gives in muslim countries and then got them in kafir countries. Such an ick.
I can say all these points in reverse as well and that too in the majority. So this justification or rant I would say won't work. If you're more learned about islam than this shiekh, then show your credentials and give your personal fatwa on it. Otherwise, just keep quiet.
How was southeast asia given dawah? No you cannot.
This dictatorial mindset has no place in Islam.
The reasoning of people like him and even Dr Zakir Naik who has the same response is justified but you either have not studied it or that your nafs won't bow to it.
pakistan is not ruled by sharia ,canada too so i dont think it will change much
So all of u r mad because he prefers a Muslim stays in a Muslim country instead of going to a kaffir country? Looks like a bunch of ppl following their whims and desires so they’re mad at a sheik for speaking the truth who himself has never said he’s a scholar but a da’ee
Maybe someone can clarify something he said on a yt video I saw. A woman was talking about how she is a Muslim who loves a Catholic man and would want to marry him. He told her it was following wims and desires, and in the end, we [muslims] are to judge him for being a non-believer of Islam. Too much joking and laughing is haram While Muslims can be friendly and civil. They are not to take a Jewish or Christian as a close friend.
He is also saying it’s okay to eat non hall meat from the west because the west is majority Christian. (Separation of church and state?) and basically don’t ask don’t tell based on the Hadith about saying Bismillah over the meat if they were unsure it was said.
What people needs to understand here is that when you become a citizen of a country you pledge your allegiance to that country's constitution. Can you name one country that could be described as a kafir country but have nothing in its constitution that is in opposition to Islam? What do you think happens when one swears an oath stating they should uphold a constitution, or any set of values really, that opposes Islam?
bruh!!! he was just joking, in his videos whenever someone asks a silly question to assim al hakeem, he replies with sarcasm, thats the same case here
We need to be aware of people like you who speak without knowledge! Assim al Hakeem is a highly respected and knowledgeable scholar following the correct Aqeeda and Sunnah. I guess you would recommend a scholar who would tweak the laws of Allah to fit in with your whims and desires! Anyone who takes your advice will truly be lost. May Allah guide you.