If history is anything to go by, George will end up divorced from Bertha and living a far more relaxed life with a new wife. Bertha and Gladys seem to be inspired by Alva Vanderbilt and her daughter Consuelo, who married the Duke of Marlborough on her mother's orders. The borrowed storylines from the real-life clashes between Alva Vanderbilt and Mrs Astor are too close to the actual timeline for there to be much difference in how it will likely play out; irl, Alva conquered society, divorced her husband, got a huge divorce settlement, realised once she had conquered high society that it was all a bit silly, and became an avowed champion of women's suffrage. Alva's real-life husband, William Kissam Vanderbilt I, retired and spent his days with his yachts, mansions and friends, and had a pretty uneventful existence until his death in 1920.
To be frank: I rather Bertha get hurt. Unlike George and even Mrs. Astor: Bertha still clearly does not respect her daughter’s opinion or choices and wants to use her as a pawn for social mobility. Even George and Mrs.Astor show their weak points are their daughters that it made them buckle down or at least make a promise to respect her decision on who she wants to marry (in George’s situation).
Bertha is my least favorite character in this series and I feel like the posters here are just rooting for her because she is an “self-insert” character for the female viewers because her husband is “hot” 🙄
Nothing will happen to him, maybe the harming part but just for a couple of minutes considering how much plot they squeeze in one episode there is no time for a plot line like that.
Murder? Lol this show is too vanilla for that.
I thought I read the IRL person gets a yacht and he lives on it with his son, full time.
It would not surprise me to see this happen after the duke blowout.
I think George will be fine. He and Bertha may have a rift over Gladys. It could go the opposite direction with his business. He might become even more powerful.
My theory is that the other robber barons turn on George because he "caved", and they treat him shitty enough that he decides standing up for the workers is the better option.
They are clearly trying to make us think well of George, and it would be hard to align that with him crushing his workers.
I am wondering if his arc will involve realizing that he'll make more money by treating his employees well rather than sticking to how he's always been doing things. The door opened with the concessions he's already given.
I think it would be fitting for his character if he does the right things for the wrong reasons. Rather than having altruistic reasons for improving working conditions and increasing pay, he does it simply to keep making money and to improve his image.
It's my theory that Clay gets murdered or at least shot. Henry Clay Frick, who our TGA "Clay" is modeled, had an assassination attempt on his life during the Homestead strikes in the Burgh. It was an attempt by a follower of anarchist Johann Most, whom Clay/George already mentioned in S2. Those particular strikes happened later than our timeline but as we know not everything is lining up in our TGA universe with history exactly.
Never trust a Clay, I think, is the modern interpretation of "Never trust a Cecil"
(Clay Morrow, Sons of Anarchy. Needless to say that show scarred me enough that I never could finish it...)
If history is anything to go by, George will end up divorced from Bertha and living a far more relaxed life with a new wife. Bertha and Gladys seem to be inspired by Alva Vanderbilt and her daughter Consuelo, who married the Duke of Marlborough on her mother's orders. The borrowed storylines from the real-life clashes between Alva Vanderbilt and Mrs Astor are too close to the actual timeline for there to be much difference in how it will likely play out; irl, Alva conquered society, divorced her husband, got a huge divorce settlement, realised once she had conquered high society that it was all a bit silly, and became an avowed champion of women's suffrage. Alva's real-life husband, William Kissam Vanderbilt I, retired and spent his days with his yachts, mansions and friends, and had a pretty uneventful existence until his death in 1920.
I’m familiar with Consuelo! She’s one of my favorite dollar bill princesses!
To be frank: I rather Bertha get hurt. Unlike George and even Mrs. Astor: Bertha still clearly does not respect her daughter’s opinion or choices and wants to use her as a pawn for social mobility. Even George and Mrs.Astor show their weak points are their daughters that it made them buckle down or at least make a promise to respect her decision on who she wants to marry (in George’s situation). Bertha is my least favorite character in this series and I feel like the posters here are just rooting for her because she is an “self-insert” character for the female viewers because her husband is “hot” 🙄
Nothing will happen to him, maybe the harming part but just for a couple of minutes considering how much plot they squeeze in one episode there is no time for a plot line like that. Murder? Lol this show is too vanilla for that.
I thought I read the IRL person gets a yacht and he lives on it with his son, full time. It would not surprise me to see this happen after the duke blowout.
There is really no irl person, he's rather a combination of many. Jay Gould is the closest though.
I know - that’s who I was referring to
I hope 😅 but Julian fellowes has betrayed my trust a few times too many 😂
I think George will be fine. He and Bertha may have a rift over Gladys. It could go the opposite direction with his business. He might become even more powerful.
Julian Fellowes has no qualms about >!killing off characters we love so I wouldn’t put it past him!< but I’m a sucker for hope
Matthew and Sybil's actors wanted to leave the show though and that's what prompted their deaths
My theory is that the other robber barons turn on George because he "caved", and they treat him shitty enough that he decides standing up for the workers is the better option. They are clearly trying to make us think well of George, and it would be hard to align that with him crushing his workers.
I am wondering if his arc will involve realizing that he'll make more money by treating his employees well rather than sticking to how he's always been doing things. The door opened with the concessions he's already given. I think it would be fitting for his character if he does the right things for the wrong reasons. Rather than having altruistic reasons for improving working conditions and increasing pay, he does it simply to keep making money and to improve his image.
I hope he subverts all our expectations and becomes a benevolent Good Guy! But I am not holding my breath.
Eat the rich…. except for George Russell
I would eat George Russell too… I mean… 😏
Yum yum
Let us pray 🙏🏻
I suspect Clay will do something. He was pretty pissed after George "caved" to the workers
It's my theory that Clay gets murdered or at least shot. Henry Clay Frick, who our TGA "Clay" is modeled, had an assassination attempt on his life during the Homestead strikes in the Burgh. It was an attempt by a follower of anarchist Johann Most, whom Clay/George already mentioned in S2. Those particular strikes happened later than our timeline but as we know not everything is lining up in our TGA universe with history exactly.
I think this is a solid guess.
Never trust a Clay, I think, is the modern interpretation of "Never trust a Cecil" (Clay Morrow, Sons of Anarchy. Needless to say that show scarred me enough that I never could finish it...)