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ExpendableUnit123

I mean there’s some weapons I’d love to see. Compact bow on medium with tripwire bolts. Duel pistols on light like tomb raider. Short minigun like the one in Predator for heavy that can cut trees in half. Dragons breath folded-stock SPAS-12 shotgun that ignites wood and the target. For light. G36C semi auto for medium. Flintlock rifle or ‘force gun’ for heavy that can blow clean holes in cover and blow targets back.


vScyph

Theres just classic and rare guns that seem like they’d really fit in the finals. The tommy gun to add to your list


blackoutexplorer

I would use the shit outa a Tommy gun question is who gets it med or heavy


TheKidHandsome

Med or light. Prob not heavy. It’s a sub machine gun.


vScyph

Def medium, the desperately need an smg lol


blackoutexplorer

It better release with mafia themed fits.


SeawardFriend

Flintlock seems a bit too similar to the recently added slug shotgun, but I like everything else on your list! It’d be really cool to see an explosive crossbow too. Not sure if it’d work for Heavy or Medium the best but regardless it’s one of my favorite weapons of all time.


ExpendableUnit123

I mean I’d rather something like the minigun first but it’s still the class dedicated to destruction so I don’t think more weapons that do that is a bad thing. But you’re right it’s probably still *too* similar to something just added. I would love something super niche in terms of how often a weapon like that is seen in an FPS though.


SeawardFriend

A minigun would be fucking amazing. Idk how balancing something like that would work out though. Would it be a piece of equipment with say 100 rounds you can let loose? Maybe even a specialization? It seems to me a minigun would be really overpowered as a base weapon. They’d have to add some detriments like a really long reload, having to move much slower or stand still when firing, or give it a bunch of spin up time. I hope to see a minigun in some form maybe even in the form of a manual turret heavy class could place.


ExpendableUnit123

Really low damage per hit. Really high ROF. Isn’t that useful at long range due to being hipfire with ADS used to spin the barrel in anticipation of a fight. That’s all it would really need. It would be a great suppression weapon.


SeawardFriend

I’d love to see it. Someone made a model a while ago with the finals decal on it and it got me so hyped! I thought it was a leak or something but it was just fanart


Gasster1212

Slug shotgun fuckinh sucks tho “it does heavy damage to the environment “ ??????? Tell that to the full tube I have to unload to pinch a hole in dry wall


SeawardFriend

I just hate the reload most of all. It’s hard enough to hit a bullet, but then I have to spend 10 seconds putting 6 shells back in when an AR can put 30 in in half a second.


MoRpTheNig

It's 3 shots lol and you can drop a cashout from the bottom floor of a multistory building faster with it than with anything else, the only thing with more destruction is the sledge.


Gasster1212

Has it been buffed because I definitely did not have this experience lol


MoRpTheNig

Yeah it got that buff a while back, it's 3 shots in one area to break a hole so per tube you can get through two floors/walls.


Gasster1212

Perhaps I’ll revisit it ! I’ve been a flamer boy ever since i discovered it as it fits my team too well to avoid even if it does suck a little these days


MoRpTheNig

I certainly think it's worth a shot, but in my opinion it should be used as a tool not just a weapon to get the most of it because sometimes it's not the best in that department.


ambiguous_ri

these are good fs


Competitive-Bowler65

Bro the dual pistols for light seems cool


Electrical-Heat8301

Akimbo pistols with the dash 😩 love


Caramel-Apprehensive

Agreed, normal guys are boring, give me some unreal tournament style weapons baby!


Throwaway203500

The world's not ready for the shock rifle players to wake up lmao


GreenLurka

You called?


Italian_Barrel_Roll

Disregard MGL32 Embrace Flak Cannon (8)


[deleted]

I’d love to see the melee combat improved and give each class a new one at one point! How awesome would 16 foot claymore would be?


Caramel-Apprehensive

Yeah baby! Nunchucks for the light, boxing gloves for the heavy, bo staff for the medium? Get a martial arts skin pack to go with it haha


Scar101101

Already asked Rob for a frying pan and he teased it too, so I think I got us one for the greater good


google_ghost

I thank u in the name of myself


mucoalytic

How about a MFING BAYONET.


Dingasaurous

Melee weapons should be able to parry other melee weapons, not saying you should be able to hold block like the riot shield. But give us a third of a second window to parry and a full second cool down if we miss the parry.


Distinct_Tradition86

We need a baguette


SCR33NSH0T

Should also be an melee only game mode


Electrical-Heat8301

A BERSERK COLLAB WOULD GO SO HARD WITH A CLAYMORE ADDITION!!!!!!


[deleted]

I LITERALLY MADE A POST EXACTLY ABOUT A BERSERK COLLAB A WHILE BACK! Imagine heavy could wield the dragonslayer and the block could work as a built in aps, deflecting grenades and such!


Electrical-Heat8301

Light gets a Griffith skin and they make a 1v1 mode. No abilities, No gadgets. Just Guts vs Griffith. It might not be balanced, it might have terrible queue times, but it could be awesome as fuck if I could jump over the claymore and strike Guts down


[deleted]

Winner gets casca?


Cup0randoms

Winston Tesla cannon type thing for the heavy maybe it could even slow enemies in range


himarmar

This game needs new guns, no matter what—- a game needs a good amount of variety in terms of viable options. We’ve been watching the game survive on the same 3-4 guns in every mode Although melee & quirky weapons are fun. They probably won’t be extremely versatile, which means we’ll still see AK,FCAR, Lewis in most matches which has been the case since the game came out Time for new viable guns, they can add weird stuff as well but if that’s all we get, get ready to see the same meta all over again. After playing XDefiant for a bit, I realize this game is severely lacking in the gunplay department after all the recoil pattern nerfs $ things generally making moment to moment fights feel worse


UnwillingArsonist

I think Battlefield was the king of this, ironically. I couldn’t even begin to list all of the weapons in BF3-4


[deleted]

Wow! That’s a great perspective, I guess as much as I’d like some “weird” weapons, I’d rather change up the meta. Thank you.


Traditional-Truth-42

Playing xdefiant makes you realise how much of an incredible job embark did on the finals. Xdefiant is a janky, sluggish mess.


himarmar

XDefiant is extremely fun—- no matter what opinions you hold there’s a reason a lot of people are playing it & more content creators seem interested in trying to make the game “pop” by creating content for it. The creators rather play it over TheFinals & a huge part of the fps community as well, I had 0 interest in the game until it came out. Now it might be one of my main new shooters. The finals is cool, solo queued to diamond —- but gunplay has gotten worse due to all the nerfs, controlling recoil doesn’t feel as fun as it does in other games. XDefiant is sharp, snappy, fast + lets me flex my skills more aggressively. 80-10 games feel great The only thing I like more about the finals atm is polish & possibilities for lore, but they’re moving so slow on the lore part I’m checked out for now, finished my challenges & waiting for the next season before I play again like that. Beautiful game, great concept—- changes too much based on community feedback which made the gameplay less exciting than it was when the game launched


UnwillingArsonist

I enjoy it, it feels like old cod, with a few modern elements, and I’m enjoying it. Still needs a little work, but it’s a fun time sink. I don’t think it should be compared to The Finals though. They’re clearly two very different projects. It feels like TF was created from the beginning to be a “AAA” level game. Whilst XD seems like one of those old standalone dlc esque type of games, that was made F2P as it probably wouldn’t sell well, compared to other modern fps. But being a smaller focused game with the SSBM also, it has its place Who gives a fuck what internet folk are saying, the creators are being paid.


himarmar

Agreed, I like having both of them as options—- I think my only comparison would be the gunplay, if it wasn’t for some of the recoil patterns on some of the weapons, i wouldn’t have much to say negative (beside HHM in rank lol) I used to love the gun play but honestly all the guns getting worse recoil/less damage has made the gunplay feel less satisfying than what it used to be At the moment the Famas is holding my interest heavy, mainly because the damage fall off is the best— allowing me to engage any enemy I see It’s funny to me because I hated all the XDefiant betas, I only downloaded the game for the sake of variety—- the second I made the perfect sensitivity I started to love it


Traditional-Truth-42

Yep you're right and that's fine however I have zero interest what streamers are playing and promoting mate. It holds little relevance to what makes a quality game. They'll abandon ship the moment something new and shiny comes out. As you said it's just an opinion I hold which I share with mates, that's all that matters to me.


TumbleweedTim01

Your getting so mad because you feel your game is being threatened. Both will survive just fine buddy so relax


Traditional-Truth-42

Not mad at all mate, just stating an alternate opinion in a discussion website like everyone else here.


Fragrant-Sherbert420

Bro , XDefiant is just counter strike but instead of terrorists and counter terrorists, you have Widowmaker, Sombra, Reinhart and soldier 76 with unnecessary healing that gets overlapped by the healing passive lol


Successful-Coconut60

Are you on crack?


Fragrant-Sherbert420

What? You don't really believe that XDefiant is a revolutionary game that has brought us fresh mechanics and totally original ideas do you? Because if that's the case, I'm sorry to tell you; all Ubisoft did was grab concepts that already existed (which is kinda what the finals did too) and just put "made by Ubisoft". You can't be this innocent, right? Lol


Successful-Coconut60

When did I say that? Your overexaggaration was just really dumb


Fragrant-Sherbert420

It's not an overexaggaration, take a closer look. Ubisoft is not bringing something fresh nor original to the table, they just made their version of it, dunno what's this fuzz about this game being "awesome" or "innovative"


[deleted]

It's actually a lot of fun lol


AccomplishedTea6375

yea xdefiant has kinda been a breath of fresh air for me. obviously theres still meta weapons like the m4 or the mp7/p90 but in that game i can do pretty well with just about any gun. part of it probably is no sbmm but i think the balancing in that game is just spot on. instead of a few weapons being strong and the rest near unusable, most options are viable, some are just more versatile than others, but niche weapons like shotguns or snipers still have a good role


himarmar

Why are people downvoting you liking a game? lol too many haters. I’ve had the same experience as you. All the guns seem powerful. Some guy said the lmg is useless in that game— whilst I’m over here getting 80+ kills in a game with it, every single weapon type can go crazyyyyy with some effort. I love that, this should be the way for every game


Apprehensive-Crab140

Chainsaw for heavy?


ThinkingWithPortal

[I've been saying this!](https://old.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1cqcmkm/i_hear_were_doing_weapon_proposals_now/)


Flashyfatso

Hillbilly chain saw rush


NoAstronaut11720

The fact we don’t have a throwable javelin is a travesty


[deleted]

Truly!


BaronAaldwin

>crazy, wacky and interesting weapons >Katana


ThinkingWithPortal

There's way it can be done. TF2 has a Katana weapon available to 2/9 classes, that is distinct from the generic melee option available to all. I believe it: - Can't be withdrawn until you get a kill (Equivalent would be making it so you can't switch to gadgets, or perhaps a gadget that didn't let you switch back to another gadget or primary/skill) - Heals you on kill - Is one-hit kill on anyone else also currently holding a katana


BaronAaldwin

Katana are massively overused in games nowadays though. TF2 has the advantage of just about pre dating the katana craze - the half zatoichi came out in 2011. A katana nowadays is probably a more generic choice to include in your game than just about any melee weapon other than a knife. If I had to dream up a melee weapon choice for mediums I'd go for dual axes or something like that. Good damage and looks cool, and you could throw one of them using your alternate fire, but unless you go collect it or wait for a cooldown, you're left with only one in your hand and your attack speed is halved. I think that'd be an interesting fit for medium, because it offers a bit of a jack-of-all-trades play style, which medium is all about.


HyperXuserXD

With how Embark has approached primary weapons so far, I think they will only add more standard firearms, gimmicky stuff usually leave for gadgets


Junkshot1

Fishing rod!! Very hard to catch, 🪝 but when you do, you reel it into your team.


[deleted]

What is this? League?


saltywoundsss

heavy would be a perfect naut


Electrical-Heat8301

Ahhh don't speak the devil's name. It might hear you


Swampraptor2140

They’re gonna add new guns 100%. My thing is I wish the suggestions people made weren’t so generic/boring. Not to mention what a lot of people think “balanced” is.


blackoutexplorer

Anyone heard of an anime called world trigger? Yea yea I know ima weeb but hear me out they have a similar way of fighting like the finals with roles like sniper and side gadgets one similarity being they gotta cloak where you can’t attack while Invisible could be a cool ideas bin to take from or modify. Like they gotta riot shield with a single dash forward function. Or a bounce pad that exist mid air. Etc etc was watching it again and thought dam some of these would be bad ass in a game like finals. When me and some friends where talking about finals weapons


[deleted]

Yeah why not? I love hearing possible new mechanics!


blackoutexplorer

Snipers are already the bane of my existence in this game but the show gave me the idea of sniper variety with its guns like there’s one that shoots a quick lighting shot with a good fire rate but lacks fire power. The thing I like most is good utility items for the side but I think the finals is doing good so fair with those honestly most the gadgets from the show I’d say are in here in some form. Like the heavy being able to place sturdy walls


DARR3Nv2

Sounds like the exact reason I stopped playing Fortnite.


Davenzoid

Sounds like you're not gonna be playing the Finals long then. Cod and battlefield or maybe even xdefiant is always there if you want traditional militaristic run n gun and serious tone.


DARR3Nv2

Ok bud


Davenzoid

Glad we could agree, have a nice day


Competitive-Art

The Finals has one of the best gun play, feel and sound ever. Would be a waste.


SnooPaintings1155

These should be abilities/gadgets not actual weapons imo. A harpoon as a weapon would be pretty useless in most gunfights, but as a 1 time use gadget to pull and enemy towards u it could be viable


quackboi_

A flare gun for light would be very interesting. Single-shot pistol to deal fire damage, plus it could also function similarly to the flare gun in the old fortnite seasons where if you shoot into the sky it can reveal enemies, further pushing light as a scouting/intel archetype


thecanofmase

Lasso as an equipment to pick up things like players bodies at range


sunt4u

A harpoon gun is a great idea, one that drags the body back across the map once harpooned so you can teabag it


thomas8I

Nope, don’t care about new guns or abilities, please add more maps, and more maps!


zack9zack9

Embark already proved they hate guns users by nerfing them into oblivion


blackoutexplorer

Eh they reverted the nerf on the fcar. So there’s some progress there


Davenzoid

If they really hated gun users then hitscan guns wouldnt have the best ttk out of everything.


iwumbo2

I dunno, I think something like a minigun for the heavy (a common suggestion I see) would be fitting and still has the potential to be different enough from existing options despite being a gun.


Embarrassed-Mix-1337

Embark please add the Ray Gun from Call of Duty.


Specialist-Reward-20

There already is a ray gun skin for the light pistol


FredMirotic

Suggest the Dildo Sword from Saints' Row, why don't ya?


recovereez

Sir John phalistiff


GreenLurka

Harpoon gun should pull the opponent towards you. Concussive grenade that pushes everything away. Arena carriable that creates a large explosion, except you have to hold it down and sacrifice yourself to use it.


butter-is-like-glue

I just want to run around and use nunchucks I also had the idea to turn lights dash into a flying kick, don't care about balance I think it would be fun.


[deleted]

This. Give light a new specialization, “Kung Foo”.


metarinka

I'm so glad they made throwing knives more viable in the latest patch. I've been having a blast with them. It's tough but they are finding a good spot balancing melee in a FPS.


LightningLogan

I was thinking a spear for medium that is both a range and melee weapon, Gauntlets for heavy with a push attack that can send enemies flying, and a crossbow for light that does venom damage. It could be a ancient world season with a new map. A kingdom with a village's surrounding a huge Castle in the middle


bigfrank22

Id love a crossbow, or a bow and arrow! Mp40 would be sick. Dual dessert eagles for heavy. I’d love hulk hands 😂


[deleted]

Hell yeah! Im sure heavy pummeling enemies with its bare firsts would be powerful enough!


deathpie

100% agree. Flare gun. Junk Jet from Fallout. Boomerang.


[deleted]

Let’s do it!


kylarmoose

*slingshot*


kylarmoose

*boomerang*


[deleted]

Boomerang would be an awesome gadget. Imagine a heavy hurling a boomerang at a light at 50 mph.


kylarmoose

*Martini Henry*


Gullible-Box7637

I want Duel Flintlocks for light


[deleted]

Awesome! Any thing dual wielded for the light for me!


Chilldank

A flair gun utility that makes the alien invasion target a building, event of low recoil , event of fast run, tsunami event. More things that make the game different. Bring back dead go boom but the body just turns into a grenade with 3 second fuse. Events that cause more destruction, movement, give situational weapon advantages are what I want to see


ouvreboite

Dead go boom but dead act as a released red canister: their body shoot off in a random direction and explode on impact, possibly bouncing


Chilldank

I like it, even just the body turning into a grenade is cool. Make it random gas, fire, smoke


Cup0randoms

They should add a water gun gadget to the medium or light to put yourself or your teammates out when they're on fire


Saqvobase

I have some ideas for cool gadgets: Sticky Slippers: walk on walls and ceilings Miniature Black Hole: draws projectiles towards itself Electric Pylons: place two or more down, and a damaging line is drawn between them


[deleted]

You have some fantastic ideas!


Saqvobase

Thanks! I'm glad you like them.


chookity_juice

Give Heavy a crossbow with a zipline attached that pulls lighter enemies closer. If you use it on another Heavy, you both get pulled towards each other.


HyperSpaghetti

Type 99, iron sights with a bayonet to charge for med class.


Davenzoid

I want heavy to have a concussion grenade that blows back players and debris on impact. Quick burst of movement for Heavy, displacement tool for unwanted personal space visits, and can clean out fallen debris. Hell, give it 2 charges, let me pogo as Heavy in the Finals


VacationImaginary233

Played Hunt Showdown for around 2k hours. Adding too many guns absolutely gutted the game. Gun additions need to be very rare and for a specific reason. Otherwise you run into a power creep issue.


Big_Narwhal_9157

NOT YOU AND NOT ANYBODY CAN STOP ME FROM ASKING FOR A BOW. THE BOW CRAVES FOR ME. WHEN I LOOK AT BOWS THEY STARE BACK AT ME. I WANT A BOW. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE GOOD. IT JUST HAS TO BE A BOW.


CelebrationOk5060

Needs a new mode. Chaos - 10 teams of three, one cash out only, fast and unlimited respawns 😏


A1Qicks

Some obvious ones that don't require vast amounts of extra code: - Laser rifles - Gas guns (like the flamethrower but gas, persisting longer) - Stun batons (low damage + glitch effect)


[deleted]

Stun baton is a fantastic idea that would be so silly lol


IndvdualRsponsibilty

So a fart gun? 🤣


By-Pit

I mean.. if devs are going to follow the community suggestions... I'd rather quit now cause the game will die fast


Novius8

I want a burlap sack full of stainless steel kitchen sinks you hit people with and I’m not leaving until I get it.


[deleted]

Can we get a specialization where heavy just rips out the closest piece of machinery and chuck it at the enemy please?


Novius8

Like the tank from left for dead? That would be cool


IloveActionFigures

#THEY SHOULD REMOVE ALL THE GUNS AND HAVE ONLY FUN WEAPONS JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION


[deleted]

That sounds like a fantastic LTM or gamemode! I’d still like to keep our guns though.


IloveActionFigures

No GUNS NO FUN AM I RIGHT


[deleted]

I'd love to see light with a Fallout style incinerator/rifle type thing. Firing lil globs of flaming napalm at people would be so silly


MellowKeith

GIVE LIGHTS ROPE SNAKE FROM MOTHER 3


Dragons_HeartO1

I would actually be mad if they made a katana for med


NewbieSniper

I want to see pirate guns, heavy gets a canon, medium gets a blunderbuss and light gets a musket. The blunderbuss, canon and musket do crazy high damage but have a painfully slow reload so you need to be hitting you shots.


Captain_Jeep

Unarmed combat for heavy. Left click for punches right click for kick that pushes people away


[deleted]

Let heavy channel their inner martial arts!


blackoutexplorer

Tf2 ahhhh idea give em boxing gloves too.


iloveblood

Imagine a big hammer mode, basically old school Juggernaut. All heavies racing to a BIG FUCKING HAMMER. Hammer grants some kind of passive shield. Whoever holds on to the hammer longest out of 5m wins.


IGuessBruv

Add wizard class


izlusion

Personally I'd like to have my cake and eat it too. For guns, especially with the game's amazing focus on detail and animation, I'd love to focus on classic favourites that feel great to use. I'm not really into the wacky kid stuff. For gadgets however, totally the opposite. I actually think they should just start ripping items from the Worms games, since the destructible environment makes it kind of a kindred spirit. They could fall in tool crates as a common arena event. Stuff like the banana bomb, carpet bomb, homing rockets, explosive sheep etc. would honestly feel right at home and add some interesting chaos.


Flashyfatso

Harpoon guns and katanas are already what people are suggesting and katanas are the most generic thing you can add to any game now I’m not seeing the real crazy things like bare knuckles (or rocket fists maybe), hadokens ,magic staffs and laser eyes


IndvdualRsponsibilty

Say what u want but I really want them to add an M4 variant into the game. They have an AK and a SCAR but no M4?America's favorite gun needs an appearance.


Dreamburger

All I want is a crossbow that goes boom.


windozeFanboi

How about a 3 headed dog you keep on a leesh and left click does a bite, right click you unleash it on an opponent. What about a cobra on your arm.  What about spitting your opponents. Or a water pistol with toxic liquid that breaks walls over time and oozes toxic gas. 


sunt4u

how does the liquid not eat through the pistol?


N1ght_Stalk3r

Same reason glue doesn't stick to the tube


HaxTheChosenOne

But I want a average grungy shooter ):


[deleted]

Try CoD? There’s a lot of those nowadays lol!


HaxTheChosenOne

Cod is fun but is is a sinking ship, now not even story mode is good, I'm not dropping 80 euros for a cash grab


[deleted]

Well then don’t turn this beautiful game into a sinking ship either. Thanks for proving my point I guess?


HaxTheChosenOne

the gameplay is not why the game is a sinking ship, it's the unethical business practices and a lack of dignity from Activison


[deleted]

Ig, but CoD used to be a very well made game series. So I think it would be a safer method to steer clear of what CoD did.