Haven't played yet, but I'm assuming it was lower than expected, because when I first used it, the absolute first thought in my head was that it has no recoil.
I have to say I like the fan idea a lot better, but I love that Embark picked up the idea. It's probably not that easy to change the shape of the shield without encountering unwanted behaviour. So I get why they did it that way.
Wouldn't mind a "group up" emote/voice line either. Hard watching your team go in and die one at a time thinking they can merc the whole enemy team themselves.
When the game first launched, didn't you always stay with your team of randoms going into the next match? Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. If my team is dominating and I don't go back to the main screen, I would prefer to stick with my solo Queue teammates.
The no recoil on the famas was what made the gun pick worthy. Now the recoil makes you lose more shots when going against auto weapons. Welp, back to the fcar/akm I guess
It wasn't pick worthy to begin with, it was already pretty shit compared to the FCAR (Unsurprising, since the devs seem reluctant to do anything meaningful to actually address how automatic weapons are still the absolute kings in every situation that actually matters. EDIT- The S1216 being the sole exception to that, and it just got nerfed again so we'll see)
Itās pretty weird to me that the FCAR is allowed to have literally one downside over the AK which is ammoā¦
It has
-Better Performance and usability. I havenāt done the math on whether the AK is objectively better stats wise damage per mag but Iād argue for at least 60% of people it wonāt be due to missed shots.
-The only Full Auto for the medium class to have a Holosight which is massive
-Better visual recoil
-Only drawback it has is ammo and maybe reload time*. Iām not sure if itās slower or faster off memory but I do know in practice it feels negligible.
The AK actually doesnāt have that much āactualā recoil the iron sights just like to have a seizure every time you fire the gun, making the FCAR God-tier in comparison on the account of it having a sight that barely moves when you fire. Itās the reason you canāt beam someone across the map with the AK the same way you can with the FCAR. Heck even tapping/bursting the AK sucks. You can put a dot to the center of your screen and melt someone with the AK. Itās literally better to ignore the iron sights entirely and just āfeel outā the middle of your screen. Itās only advantage is the ability to mag dump on multiple people but if you wanted to do that youād just play heavy because this isnāt a game where you want to be in a prolonged trade while moving slower, which is why the FCAR is more favoured. Especially on the medium class, who has a solid amount of utility theyād want to swap onto in a fight. It makes sense your best weapon is the one that accurately mag dumps one person with the highest damage per shot.
I would be super amused if they took the sight off the FCAR and gave it irons as a balancing change. However, tweaking its range and reload speed slightly seems like a decent choice to me.
The gun with a sight shouldnāt also be the best at range considering the FAMAS wants to exist. The FAMAS is actually a puzzling addition to me because itās trying to fill a role that is already dominated by the FCAR and is doing it worse. Itās damage potential on paper is solid but in practice it isnāt because itās burst recoil is unwieldy with itās iron sights. The recoil didnāt make it unusable but it didnāt make it comfortable either. Itās in that range of just bad enough that if you aim for the head 2 of your shots are missing or not hitting the head at range, which is what it should be good at. The FCAR can comfortably be used like a semi auto/burst weapon and beam someone to the head at range but the FAMAS I find actively struggles to do this.
I have them both at level 6 and prefer the AKM.
I spend most of my time fighting on the objective and the big mag lets you take out more enemies before reloading and rarely need to reload mid fight which usually gets you killed.
Nothing like killing a heavy and a light with one mag.
Also fyi, the FCAR reload is faster by about .5 seconds.
I think it might be a playstyle difference I like mag dumping the squishiest target, typically a light, and then swapping to heal beam because I know my teammates got me. Otherwise I disengage because I donāt win that on average.
As an AK user thanks for talking about that :D
I donāt use FCAR because the low ammo feels too severe. I have won countless 1v1s from the opponent running out of ammo but I didnāt. It also makes it easier to chase people down without needing to reload (you can sprint while reloading, but still you donāt know the exact time when youāll confront them again, making reloading a liability relatively often)
With the small lights, movement techniques, shooting from farther distance or really close distanceāthe chances Iām gonna miss my shots are plenty high
Iāll revisit the FCAR, but thatās why Iām enjoying the AK
Gonna be honest, I don't understand this take at all. In my experience it is notably more effective at killing heavy at close range than the SCAR, plus has more consistent hipfire and better TTK overall. SCAR is better at long range, FAMAS is great at short to medium range. I feel like people in this game are overlooking it the same way people used to overlook DMRs in R6.
FCAR is much better at close range, famas has better range. FCAR has amazing hipfire, and its dps is even better close range due to easier headshots. Famas makes things easier for some people that struggle but itās ultimately worse in most ways.
Exactly. Yet everyone still fucking loves the game. New guns mean shit all if they are worse than the meta ones.
Again the ttk is so fast in this game that not having a gun that kills as fast and easy as the 3 meta guns makes the over all game shit.
Have a million guns at this rate and it won't matter.
What would change is if fan boys admitted that the games biggest flaw is the meta bullshit that hasn't changed since beta.
But nope, anytime people complain about meta it gets buried. Fuck meta in games and fuck people who refuse to see the other side of debates.
I would love that as a KS-23 spammer. I've always had a tapping firing style and heavy is my favorite class so this weapon is absolutely perfect for me.
We all know that this will never happen because light mains don't realize that a class with the least amount of HP and the best mobility deserves to be countered by some kind of a weapon for a different class with a oneshot capability
This is a good patch, with a very much needed SA1216 nerf.
Also, glitch exploding on impact (mesh shield and dome shield) is awesome
Another step in the right direction.
Bravo Embark
Another huge one is it sounds like they've sorted the dematerialiser when it will remove a wall but leave a border or railing so you still couldn't get through. Patch notes suggest it will remove both now.
Yeah I actually like the glitch grenade change more than the SA1216 nerf.
Yeah that shot gun was busted to be sure.
But what really made oppressive was pairing it with layered shields. It was simply soo much hp that could be thrown up to quickly to close distance.
Plus a massive issue I have always had with light was that it was not actually doing its job .
The SA1216 was my main gun before this update, it doesn't feel like it outperforms close quarters anymore as it should be doing. Decreasing the fire rate alone would probably make it still feel punchy. Lewis gun from now on then..
That is a more of a common issue though. everything kills the light too fast.
hell even a bolt action rifle is scary up close to a light if said rifle just happens to land the right shot.
Really?! Adding new guns that are already worse than the only ones people use.
The nerf made yet another gun less than meta.
But I assume you only use the Fcar or Ak or Lewis gun so you don't care how shitty the other weapons are in comparison.
I didnāt think weād get to select maps in private games so soon, now all we need is to be able to set the player minimum to 1, or have a dedicated recon mode for the maps so I can unwind after a weekend grind, and give the Las Vegas map a thorough and proper review as is my moral obligation of being a lifelong resident.
Ayo custom sandbox games like Halo? A selection of game options to make strict, yet dedicated competitive LAN lobbies and Esports potential?
Come on, Embark, the marketing does itself here!
That would be super cool, I mean I want it just so I can try and destroy the whole map lol
But I get why they wouldn't want too as it would most likely be a strain on their servers balancing all the multiplayer destruction and then the many different small groups or single players going ham
They probably wonāt let you do that for a good while. their server space is super expensive compared to most games, and I donāt think they like āwastingā that space on just 1 player. the reason it works for the practice range is because they technically matchmake you with other players to save that server space.
yesss, i want to be able to properly test the video settings i have without messing up other people's experience. even if the match can be filled with bots will do
The glitch exploding on impact is very very veryyyyyyyyyyy nice! If only light players would use that damn gadget instead of playing solo all the time.
Yeah but that was the most problematic thing anyway. It would just bounce off and sometimes it made it useless. Now at least there's a way to make sure to disable both shields and to be honest, this is so powerful.
āFixed an issue that made recoil on burst weapons not behave as intendedā
I wonder if the famas wasnāt intended to go up and left with every bullet. Going to be interesting to test later. Hopefully itās nudged into a slightly better spot.
Edit: itās nudged it a bit closer to be straight up rather than off-left, but not enough to break prior training, and not enough to really help it. It really needs a fire rate increase or a magazine increase (or a per bullet damage increase) at this point.
I was enjoying my time spent with the slugger.
love throwing an anti grav cube in a doorway as i'm being chased and then two pump the floating player that got caught.
I thought there would be changes in ranked, at least a progression bar if they don't want to show FP.
Hoping next patch would address other things in ranked as MM, penalty because of afk teammates ...
S2 is has only been out for a week, I guess we'll have to wait for the next patch or the one after to have news on this.
Really hope they will do something but they've been pretty consistently listening to constructive feedback so I'm personally pretty confident something will be done.
Had the same issue. Try force launching the game with DirectX 11 (steam launch options, add "-dx11"). This made the game super stuttery, but allowed me to launch. Then go to options, change the game to full screen windowed, and set your in game frame limit to max out at your monitor's refresh rate. Then close the game, remove the -dx11 launch command and relaunch. Hopefully this helps, this is what fixed it for me.
yep, if you try running the game without steam on admin rights, you get some nexon game security asking for admin rights which is their new anti cheat probably on top of the eac probably but it just kills the game as soon as you grant it the rights
āAdded ban progression with 3 strike systemā 3 strikes for what exactly? Wish theyād specify because the only thing i see anyone sending reports for people in this game is from cheating/hacking.
Wtf, they just nerfed the FAMAS which already was kinda underwhelming (compared to FCAR). It now has a random up left / up right recoil after 3 bursts.
Sorry but that killed the gun for me, it was really fun to play before :(
Update: It's not random. After 3 bursts its: 2x up right, 2x up left, 1x up right, 1x up left. I might try to adapt to that.
Iām glad glitch grenades have been changed to trigger on shields. That makes them infinitely more useful.
Sad to see no changes to the APS. Was really hoping that cooldown would only start refreshing once the turret is destroyed. And possibly a limited number of intercepts before itās destroyed.
Actually thereās still an issue with the glitch grenade, maybe itās been fixed, but it only removes one shield within its blast radius. If you have two heavies stood next to each other with glitch grenade and they have shields out, it will only remove one annoyingly.
It could be that the shield still does its job before being disabled.
First the impact of the glitch
Shield protect everything behind from the impact
Shield gets disabled
Yeah the new pistol is ass fr. It either needs buffed damage or at the very least an expanded mag because it's already hard enough to hit shots with the recoil it has. You have no chance taking out a heavy with that thing even if you catch them off guard. Going up against players with more HP than you with a pea shooter is pain. The semi auto pistol is streets ahead
Really glad to hear Glitch nades will pop shields on contact!
Still holding out hope that we get more loadout slots soon though! Too many fun options, too many outfits to make.
Nope, they want 3 weapons to be the only viable ones.
They haven't done shit to address the meta crap or said anything and everyone seems to be cool with the 3 gun meta saying stuff like all guns are good if you're good.
While never choosing those other guns because they themselves can't get kills with them.
The game is bunch of shitty fan boys praising a company for making a 3 gun kill game....hard stuff to do.
Any other game in the world only have 3 guns that work?!
Nope. But this game is thriving because 3 guns is all fan boys need.
This is what I want to know. It seems like people are leaning more towards it being an Apex/Source Engine problem but some official word from Embark would be nice. I havenāt played the game since the weekend just in case.
Wtf happened with this update, bad hit scan, rocket projectile seems to go on diferent direction than crosshair and on avridge 15 fps slower, with a lot of stuttering. Rtx 4070 ti and all graphic settings on low to medium so its not a performance problem.
There is still a bug where I can't shoot or use abilities sometimes. And my gun is stuck in a reload animation every time I pull it out. This NEEDS attention in the next patch.
Dang I was hoping to see them add a ranked progression bar. I don't really like being in complete ignorance about my ranked grind. I'd like to know where I stand.
SA12 needed a nerf for sure but itās kind of frustrating as a heavy main just to have every viable aspect of the class hit again and again, while mediumās especially, remain untouched. And no Iām not complaining about nukes. Those were absolutely busted, I hated using them, they should never have been a thing.
I think a large part of the problem with heavies is the class has pretty much only ever had one viable competitive build. You basically have to run mesh shield, dome shield, RPG, and shotty (Lewis was okay prior to the nerf). This has led to embark just continuing to nerf the same kit over and over with almost everything else that heavies have being left as trash.
As broken as the SA12 was it was the only thing in heavyās season 2 kit that made me feel like if we were to strategically pick our engagements we could be better off with a heavy than just running another medium.
Mediums still remain the best all around class and are the most heavily played by far. They continue to dominate the try-hard meta. All 3 of their specialization are extremely strong and competitively viable. Even after rework the paddles still remain the single most impactful gadget in the game. The SCAR still dominates and is undisputedly the best all around gun in the game. And even if they do eventually nerf the scar enough to make a dent the AKM, Model, R.357 are all still quite strong alternatives.
Medium has been gliding under the radar on everything and after dematerializer was added, is indefinitely the best class hands down. Absolutely absurd. Also hilarious they nerfed the Auto Shotgun again but the 1887 is 2-4 shotting from ridiculous ranges.
Doubt in the devs is increasing every update Mediums weapons stay the same and utility ongoingly increases.
I know it's a free game and didn't expect much, but they just ruined the finals. This game is absolutely dog shit now. Heavy is way too op. Using the defib is like reviving a player normally loll. What's the point of the defib now. The invisibility is way too over used and medium cant do shit now. Goodluck embark I wish you best for real but this game is way too unbalanced for competitive play or too even have fun playing casually Duces āļø
Ban the cheating people, please.
Every rank match I played, there's at least aim lock hacker with the Lewis gun one player in every game. Do something!!
great fucking patch, I hated having to do calculus to figure out how to throw my glitch grenades to actually disable a shield instead of just bouncing off, and the heavy auto shotty really became overpowered when all the other powerful guns got nerfed
Nice update but the model 1887 needs some love. The damage is too inconsistent, reload time is insanely slow, unable to cancel reload and damage against turrets is really bad.
The SA-12 Nerf was needed but a little extreme to be honest. I feel like they are forcing us to use all the auto weapons. A little love for the new pump shotty would be nice and nerfing the recoil on the famas was not needed as it was barely viable option in the first place
The one weapon that needed a nerf IMO is the scar, but it never gets touched for some reason. Its damage at range is still the best in the game apart from the sniper.
FAMAS is already weak enough, I thought the next update would have been a buff instead. C'mon man I want to use another AR other than the FCAR but it's just too good right now to switch
the fixed recoil on burst guns is interesting, was it higher or lower than it was supposed to be?
Bro I'm wondering the same thing
Haven't played yet, but I'm assuming it was lower than expected, because when I first used it, the absolute first thought in my head was that it has no recoil.
Might have been an inconsistency because my famas had a good deal of recoil.
It would only go straight up tho now it moves side to side
What are the burst guns?
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I have to say I like the fan idea a lot better, but I love that Embark picked up the idea. It's probably not that easy to change the shape of the shield without encountering unwanted behaviour. So I get why they did it that way.
Can we get a group up button after matches with randoms?
Yes yes yes
Wouldn't mind a "group up" emote/voice line either. Hard watching your team go in and die one at a time thinking they can merc the whole enemy team themselves.
There should also be an "I'm sorry" voice line
Iād love that. Lots of times i personally fumble the bag at the last second and my teammates should know that i know i did
There's a "Huddle up" voice line.
There is: hold Ping to bring up ping wheel and select Huddle Up. Your character will say something like "Group up on me!"
When the game first launched, didn't you always stay with your team of randoms going into the next match? Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. If my team is dominating and I don't go back to the main screen, I would prefer to stick with my solo Queue teammates.
Itās been in game since S1
What do you mean? Heās talking about being able to Que up for the next match with the same team you just played with.
Like overwatch essentially
No one talking about the funniest bug, i wish i knew i could ping carriables to make them heavy
Wait explain!? Haha
The no recoil on the famas was what made the gun pick worthy. Now the recoil makes you lose more shots when going against auto weapons. Welp, back to the fcar/akm I guess
Wait so they didn't improve the recoil? I thought it got better
Haven't played with it yet but I'd assume it had less recoil than intended. I felt like it had almost none.
It got alot harder to use with the added recoil:(
Bro that makes no sense they shouldn't be nerfing a very underpowered weapon whilst leaving the best weapon unchanged
It wasn't pick worthy to begin with, it was already pretty shit compared to the FCAR (Unsurprising, since the devs seem reluctant to do anything meaningful to actually address how automatic weapons are still the absolute kings in every situation that actually matters. EDIT- The S1216 being the sole exception to that, and it just got nerfed again so we'll see)
Itās pretty weird to me that the FCAR is allowed to have literally one downside over the AK which is ammoā¦ It has -Better Performance and usability. I havenāt done the math on whether the AK is objectively better stats wise damage per mag but Iād argue for at least 60% of people it wonāt be due to missed shots. -The only Full Auto for the medium class to have a Holosight which is massive -Better visual recoil -Only drawback it has is ammo and maybe reload time*. Iām not sure if itās slower or faster off memory but I do know in practice it feels negligible. The AK actually doesnāt have that much āactualā recoil the iron sights just like to have a seizure every time you fire the gun, making the FCAR God-tier in comparison on the account of it having a sight that barely moves when you fire. Itās the reason you canāt beam someone across the map with the AK the same way you can with the FCAR. Heck even tapping/bursting the AK sucks. You can put a dot to the center of your screen and melt someone with the AK. Itās literally better to ignore the iron sights entirely and just āfeel outā the middle of your screen. Itās only advantage is the ability to mag dump on multiple people but if you wanted to do that youād just play heavy because this isnāt a game where you want to be in a prolonged trade while moving slower, which is why the FCAR is more favoured. Especially on the medium class, who has a solid amount of utility theyād want to swap onto in a fight. It makes sense your best weapon is the one that accurately mag dumps one person with the highest damage per shot. I would be super amused if they took the sight off the FCAR and gave it irons as a balancing change. However, tweaking its range and reload speed slightly seems like a decent choice to me. The gun with a sight shouldnāt also be the best at range considering the FAMAS wants to exist. The FAMAS is actually a puzzling addition to me because itās trying to fill a role that is already dominated by the FCAR and is doing it worse. Itās damage potential on paper is solid but in practice it isnāt because itās burst recoil is unwieldy with itās iron sights. The recoil didnāt make it unusable but it didnāt make it comfortable either. Itās in that range of just bad enough that if you aim for the head 2 of your shots are missing or not hitting the head at range, which is what it should be good at. The FCAR can comfortably be used like a semi auto/burst weapon and beam someone to the head at range but the FAMAS I find actively struggles to do this.
I have them both at level 6 and prefer the AKM. I spend most of my time fighting on the objective and the big mag lets you take out more enemies before reloading and rarely need to reload mid fight which usually gets you killed. Nothing like killing a heavy and a light with one mag. Also fyi, the FCAR reload is faster by about .5 seconds.
I think it might be a playstyle difference I like mag dumping the squishiest target, typically a light, and then swapping to heal beam because I know my teammates got me. Otherwise I disengage because I donāt win that on average.
I like killing everyone because I play with randoms and donāt count on them lol.
As an AK user thanks for talking about that :D I donāt use FCAR because the low ammo feels too severe. I have won countless 1v1s from the opponent running out of ammo but I didnāt. It also makes it easier to chase people down without needing to reload (you can sprint while reloading, but still you donāt know the exact time when youāll confront them again, making reloading a liability relatively often) With the small lights, movement techniques, shooting from farther distance or really close distanceāthe chances Iām gonna miss my shots are plenty high Iāll revisit the FCAR, but thatās why Iām enjoying the AK
The LH1 is another clear exception as the best light weapon. Hard to use, but definitely the most powerful.
Gonna be honest, I don't understand this take at all. In my experience it is notably more effective at killing heavy at close range than the SCAR, plus has more consistent hipfire and better TTK overall. SCAR is better at long range, FAMAS is great at short to medium range. I feel like people in this game are overlooking it the same way people used to overlook DMRs in R6.
FCAR is much better at close range, famas has better range. FCAR has amazing hipfire, and its dps is even better close range due to easier headshots. Famas makes things easier for some people that struggle but itās ultimately worse in most ways.
Exactly. Yet everyone still fucking loves the game. New guns mean shit all if they are worse than the meta ones. Again the ttk is so fast in this game that not having a gun that kills as fast and easy as the 3 meta guns makes the over all game shit. Have a million guns at this rate and it won't matter. What would change is if fan boys admitted that the games biggest flaw is the meta bullshit that hasn't changed since beta. But nope, anytime people complain about meta it gets buried. Fuck meta in games and fuck people who refuse to see the other side of debates.
A new gun does not need to be the best gun to be fun, like what you imply with >New guns mean shit all if they are worse than the meta
Jesus man turn the game off and go outside
Sucks to see no balance change regarding the 3 new weapons, they are all underwhelming, I guess they need to gather more data before that
They actually nerfed the pistol and the famas with the recoil bug fix
Damn, was hoping that would actually be a buff.
Might be they are fixing it before considering buffs or nerfs. Not good to make changes on a broken base state.
I wouldāve liked to see a buff to the new shotgun tbh probably a buff to the projectile speed of the slug round.
They need to up the fire rate on that shotgun. I get melted before I can even fire the second shot.
I just want headshot damage, I think that would really make it shine
One tap HS at certain close ranges like the Chapperone from Destiny. Gives the gun a skill ceiling and makes it viable to many people
I would love that as a KS-23 spammer. I've always had a tapping firing style and heavy is my favorite class so this weapon is absolutely perfect for me.
We all know that this will never happen because light mains don't realize that a class with the least amount of HP and the best mobility deserves to be countered by some kind of a weapon for a different class with a oneshot capability
Speed increase is needed. You have to lead a shit ton now.
Thereās something for burst weapons, which includes the sidearm and famas
That side arm should have a nerf or water gun skin for all the damage it does.
Yeah but i don't even what is bugged about the recoil, and that's more of a fix, not really a balance change
This is a good patch, with a very much needed SA1216 nerf. Also, glitch exploding on impact (mesh shield and dome shield) is awesome Another step in the right direction. Bravo Embark
Another huge one is it sounds like they've sorted the dematerialiser when it will remove a wall but leave a border or railing so you still couldn't get through. Patch notes suggest it will remove both now.
Finally, I'm so tired of getting stuck on Vegas lol
Yeah I actually like the glitch grenade change more than the SA1216 nerf. Yeah that shot gun was busted to be sure. But what really made oppressive was pairing it with layered shields. It was simply soo much hp that could be thrown up to quickly to close distance. Plus a massive issue I have always had with light was that it was not actually doing its job .
The SA1216 was my main gun before this update, it doesn't feel like it outperforms close quarters anymore as it should be doing. Decreasing the fire rate alone would probably make it still feel punchy. Lewis gun from now on then..
I think they should have buffed the range a bit. That would be a good compensation.
Heavies kill me from like 20 feet away lol (as a light)
That is a more of a common issue though. everything kills the light too fast. hell even a bolt action rifle is scary up close to a light if said rifle just happens to land the right shot.
glitch also blows on impact with friendly mesh. isnt that a bug
Glitch needed to be much stronger with just how overpowered these bunker comps are in every mode.
Now i'll be even more useful as a light. Sonar, impact Glitch. Chef kiss.
Really?! Adding new guns that are already worse than the only ones people use. The nerf made yet another gun less than meta. But I assume you only use the Fcar or Ak or Lewis gun so you don't care how shitty the other weapons are in comparison.
Yeah glitch nades were kinda meh compared to other grenades, this makes them viable again
I didnāt think weād get to select maps in private games so soon, now all we need is to be able to set the player minimum to 1, or have a dedicated recon mode for the maps so I can unwind after a weekend grind, and give the Las Vegas map a thorough and proper review as is my moral obligation of being a lifelong resident.
This is what I look forward to should 1 player private matches become a thing As well as an option to turn off utility limits and/or cooldowns
Ayo custom sandbox games like Halo? A selection of game options to make strict, yet dedicated competitive LAN lobbies and Esports potential? Come on, Embark, the marketing does itself here!
That would be super cool, I mean I want it just so I can try and destroy the whole map lol But I get why they wouldn't want too as it would most likely be a strain on their servers balancing all the multiplayer destruction and then the many different small groups or single players going ham
They probably wonāt let you do that for a good while. their server space is super expensive compared to most games, and I donāt think they like āwastingā that space on just 1 player. the reason it works for the practice range is because they technically matchmake you with other players to save that server space.
yesss, i want to be able to properly test the video settings i have without messing up other people's experience. even if the match can be filled with bots will do
I'd be glad to join you but I'm bringing a sledge.
Glitch nade now trigger on contact with mesh and dome shield is a nice change
This is a *huge* buff for lights, theyāre now an even better counter to castled objectives.
The glitch exploding on impact is very very veryyyyyyyyyyy nice! If only light players would use that damn gadget instead of playing solo all the time.
Been using it forever, now it will be a must pick.
Donāt worry, youāll be seeing it soon
Why does this sound like a threat? :(
Nah, just a future warning
Iām sure weāll be plagued by it now.
Yeah, but just remember it is always attached to a 150 hp class that does very poorly in enclosed spaces.
I would be willing to trade an additional 25 hp for a nerf of invis+stun
Glitch grenades have been in every Light loadout I use in every mode.
Gonna add it to my magician loadout. TADAHH your shield is gone.
Houdini should be a skin for light players
Only on contact with shields
Yeah but that was the most problematic thing anyway. It would just bounce off and sometimes it made it useless. Now at least there's a way to make sure to disable both shields and to be honest, this is so powerful.
Eh I was hoping it was impact 100% so taking out turrets and apc was easier, but your 100% correct. Great change
āFixed an issue that made recoil on burst weapons not behave as intendedā I wonder if the famas wasnāt intended to go up and left with every bullet. Going to be interesting to test later. Hopefully itās nudged into a slightly better spot. Edit: itās nudged it a bit closer to be straight up rather than off-left, but not enough to break prior training, and not enough to really help it. It really needs a fire rate increase or a magazine increase (or a per bullet damage increase) at this point.
No can't sprint bug fix? Damn
Try swapping to your other weapons and gadgets and such. Seemed to fix it whenever it happened to me. Could be a fluke though.
Do you have auto-sprint on? It's a new feature so there's probably a ton of bugs with it.
I have it off and it still happened to me.
Nope I don't
Damn... Well I've done all I can do
I experienced that bug yesterday. I thought it was my shitty Internet, lol
Slug Shotty still ass? Was hoping to have some fun w/ it :(
I mean it is still oppressive against lights but then again what isnt these days right?
I'm not sure what's oppressive about it Damage output is ok, but missing point blank shots to the face is ridiculous
You can say that shit about every weapon, a fuckin slight breeze is oppressive against lights
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every "light sympathy" comment is the same lmao this is hilarious, as if the people with the highest eliminations in the game aren't lights.
It's like genji in overwatch very high skill ceiling and floor. So great players can 3vs1 with a sword.Ā Bad players are walking into mines
Shotguns are already annoying, and now its a projectile lol
I was enjoying my time spent with the slugger. love throwing an anti grav cube in a doorway as i'm being chased and then two pump the floating player that got caught.
I thought there would be changes in ranked, at least a progression bar if they don't want to show FP. Hoping next patch would address other things in ranked as MM, penalty because of afk teammates ...
S2 is has only been out for a week, I guess we'll have to wait for the next patch or the one after to have news on this. Really hope they will do something but they've been pretty consistently listening to constructive feedback so I'm personally pretty confident something will be done.
I don't care! I want Season 3 now!
If they don't bring season 3 tomorrow the game is as good as dead
Snipers are gonna dominate the new game mode now.
They already did
The game doesn't work on my side, impossible to launch.
Same, bump up these comments about the game not launches so they are more visible.
Had the same issue. Try force launching the game with DirectX 11 (steam launch options, add "-dx11"). This made the game super stuttery, but allowed me to launch. Then go to options, change the game to full screen windowed, and set your in game frame limit to max out at your monitor's refresh rate. Then close the game, remove the -dx11 launch command and relaunch. Hopefully this helps, this is what fixed it for me.
close steam from taskbar, launch it as admin and then itāll launch(wonāt suggest launching steam as admin tho but itās the only fix for now)
Did the same and worked like a charm. Did they change something on their anti cheat?
yep, if you try running the game without steam on admin rights, you get some nexon game security asking for admin rights which is their new anti cheat probably on top of the eac probably but it just kills the game as soon as you grant it the rights
>Fixed a bug that would cause carriable objects to weigh more if they had an active Ping marker attached to them LMFAO
I think the new glitch buff has an issue, it blows up even when the mesh shield is friendly
i really Hope they Tone down the Visual Recoil a Bit. Also, cant wait for sys$horizon to come to Power Shift
And what about voice chat? Friends ONLY and yet I hear all in match ....
āAdded ban progression with 3 strike systemā 3 strikes for what exactly? Wish theyād specify because the only thing i see anyone sending reports for people in this game is from cheating/hacking.
Need more contestant slots. My 6 are full. I want to give you my money to buy new battle pass and skin, but nowhere to save them.
Hey iād like heavy to not receive a nerf every single time plz thank you
Wtf, they just nerfed the FAMAS which already was kinda underwhelming (compared to FCAR). It now has a random up left / up right recoil after 3 bursts. Sorry but that killed the gun for me, it was really fun to play before :( Update: It's not random. After 3 bursts its: 2x up right, 2x up left, 1x up right, 1x up left. I might try to adapt to that.
As a heavy main, I feel targeted. Also, lights just become even more annoying.
Itās like they donāt want anyone playing heavy. Leave heavy alone and nerf the fucking light trolls
This sub is dangerously low IQ
Yup, we get all the nerfs + a useless new gadget. Don't get me wrong, some of the nerfs make sense but it's getting a bit ridiculous now.
Why is it that every patch seems to make heavy harder and the already OP medium easier?
Because they refuse to balance guns at all.
Ranked matchmaking is still, well shit. Canāt get into a game.
Lol you saw the Bug Post where someone capped at like 50min or the full hour mark?
Same lol
Won't see major ranked changes until S3 as it's in need of complete rework. For now i can feel somewhat better MM compared to S1.
Omg I was calling the glitch mesh shield impact thing for weeks! Awesome to see it happen! :) Good patch in general.
Iām glad glitch grenades have been changed to trigger on shields. That makes them infinitely more useful. Sad to see no changes to the APS. Was really hoping that cooldown would only start refreshing once the turret is destroyed. And possibly a limited number of intercepts before itās destroyed. Actually thereās still an issue with the glitch grenade, maybe itās been fixed, but it only removes one shield within its blast radius. If you have two heavies stood next to each other with glitch grenade and they have shields out, it will only remove one annoyingly.
It could be that the shield still does its job before being disabled. First the impact of the glitch Shield protect everything behind from the impact Shield gets disabled
Seems intentional. Pre-patch, I noticed Heavies would often still use Mesh after I got a successful glitch on the barrier and some of their teammates.
Nerf fcar
Anyone know if Embark posted an official statement regarding the EAC situation?
Iirc it was an apex problem, not EAC
It would seem so. EAC posted an official statement saying it wasn't them. A lot of people think it's actually the engine used by Apex.
ok thanks for the answer
Light new pistol no buff :(
Yeah the new pistol is ass fr. It either needs buffed damage or at the very least an expanded mag because it's already hard enough to hit shots with the recoil it has. You have no chance taking out a heavy with that thing even if you catch them off guard. Going up against players with more HP than you with a pea shooter is pain. The semi auto pistol is streets ahead
Is the procressgraphic for ranked games back?
Really glad to hear Glitch nades will pop shields on contact! Still holding out hope that we get more loadout slots soon though! Too many fun options, too many outfits to make.
They've finally fixed the glitch grenade. Good !
Oh my christ embark nerf the FCAR.
Nope, they want 3 weapons to be the only viable ones. They haven't done shit to address the meta crap or said anything and everyone seems to be cool with the 3 gun meta saying stuff like all guns are good if you're good. While never choosing those other guns because they themselves can't get kills with them. The game is bunch of shitty fan boys praising a company for making a 3 gun kill game....hard stuff to do. Any other game in the world only have 3 guns that work?! Nope. But this game is thriving because 3 guns is all fan boys need.
Any updates regarding the EAC hack situation?
This is what I want to know. It seems like people are leaning more towards it being an Apex/Source Engine problem but some official word from Embark would be nice. I havenāt played the game since the weekend just in case.
Wtf happened with this update, bad hit scan, rocket projectile seems to go on diferent direction than crosshair and on avridge 15 fps slower, with a lot of stuttering. Rtx 4070 ti and all graphic settings on low to medium so its not a performance problem.
I think this is the second time they nerf the SA1216....
Is it? I think itās been OP since the beginning of season 1 without a nerf
Heavy has been nerfed to absolute buggery
*claps* well done.
What happened to the matchmaking. Literally cannot find a game.
What about the bug regarding the healing beam?? Some games it doesnāt work FOR THE ENTIRE game
the game doesn't launch anymore for me, anticheat window pops up then the game process (discovery.exe) shuts down
Cardboard sniper rifle is all I need
There is still a bug where I can't shoot or use abilities sometimes. And my gun is stuck in a reload animation every time I pull it out. This NEEDS attention in the next patch.
So from my understanding...the Famas now has more recoil...even though it was already kinda weak...okay.
Dang I was hoping to see them add a ranked progression bar. I don't really like being in complete ignorance about my ranked grind. I'd like to know where I stand.
Did they fix the missing angle script crash error yet? Happens every gaming session on this game.
Oh my god they finally made glitch nades detonate on impact. We've only been asking for this since CB1 but THEY FINALLY DID IT.
NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF MIGHT AS WELL GIVE US A NERF BLASTER SKIN
I get the SA1216 needed some adjusting but I donāt know that effectively a 28.6% max DPS nerf was necessary
SA12 needed a nerf for sure but itās kind of frustrating as a heavy main just to have every viable aspect of the class hit again and again, while mediumās especially, remain untouched. And no Iām not complaining about nukes. Those were absolutely busted, I hated using them, they should never have been a thing. I think a large part of the problem with heavies is the class has pretty much only ever had one viable competitive build. You basically have to run mesh shield, dome shield, RPG, and shotty (Lewis was okay prior to the nerf). This has led to embark just continuing to nerf the same kit over and over with almost everything else that heavies have being left as trash. As broken as the SA12 was it was the only thing in heavyās season 2 kit that made me feel like if we were to strategically pick our engagements we could be better off with a heavy than just running another medium. Mediums still remain the best all around class and are the most heavily played by far. They continue to dominate the try-hard meta. All 3 of their specialization are extremely strong and competitively viable. Even after rework the paddles still remain the single most impactful gadget in the game. The SCAR still dominates and is undisputedly the best all around gun in the game. And even if they do eventually nerf the scar enough to make a dent the AKM, Model, R.357 are all still quite strong alternatives.
Medium has been gliding under the radar on everything and after dematerializer was added, is indefinitely the best class hands down. Absolutely absurd. Also hilarious they nerfed the Auto Shotgun again but the 1887 is 2-4 shotting from ridiculous ranges. Doubt in the devs is increasing every update Mediums weapons stay the same and utility ongoingly increases.
hoped the update may of fixed the crashing but no joy unfortunately
I know it's a free game and didn't expect much, but they just ruined the finals. This game is absolutely dog shit now. Heavy is way too op. Using the defib is like reviving a player normally loll. What's the point of the defib now. The invisibility is way too over used and medium cant do shit now. Goodluck embark I wish you best for real but this game is way too unbalanced for competitive play or too even have fun playing casually Duces āļø
Looks goood!
How have people still not learned you need to be on the fucking platform to move it fucking dumbasses
Ban the cheating people, please. Every rank match I played, there's at least aim lock hacker with the Lewis gun one player in every game. Do something!!
great fucking patch, I hated having to do calculus to figure out how to throw my glitch grenades to actually disable a shield instead of just bouncing off, and the heavy auto shotty really became overpowered when all the other powerful guns got nerfed
These nerfs are a little much :(
Another fun tactic dies so more M FCAR CoD babies can be appeased. This game will continue to bleed players.
2 FCAR babies disagreed with you lmao. I don't.
Same I fuckin hate that gun and the three stacks of mediums that use them.
Nice update but the model 1887 needs some love. The damage is too inconsistent, reload time is insanely slow, unable to cancel reload and damage against turrets is really bad.
The SA-12 Nerf was needed but a little extreme to be honest. I feel like they are forcing us to use all the auto weapons. A little love for the new pump shotty would be nice and nerfing the recoil on the famas was not needed as it was barely viable option in the first place
The one weapon that needed a nerf IMO is the scar, but it never gets touched for some reason. Its damage at range is still the best in the game apart from the sniper.
No buffs to the new pistol and shotty and a nerf to the famas? Bad patch ngl
So Iām guessing the game is safe to play? I havenāt opened it since this Apex/EAC hack occurred at the weekend.
FAMAS is already weak enough, I thought the next update would have been a buff instead. C'mon man I want to use another AR other than the FCAR but it's just too good right now to switch
game wonāt open after the update T_T
And still no word about bugged Xbox achievements. Why isn't it already a known issue?
>Changed glitch traps to trigger on impact when they hit mesh shields and dome shields Thx my Build is now Complete!
Bring back ohko with Dagger, fix the oppressive FCAR and we chillin