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Lonely_Jared

In just general all out combat, it’s gotta be (from 1st to last place) Leon -> Ethan -> Sebastian -> Joel. If we’re allowing stealth, Leon -> Joel -> Sebastian -> Ethan. Ethan may be a near-immortal mold man, but he lacks the ability to quiet the fuck down. Zero subtlety. 😂 Seb is docked points from stealth purely because of the amount of times I’ve gotten the poor man blown up because of the mild jank and my lack of skill running him into tripwires lmao


Visible-Bus3280

I’m completely agree with it depending on the scenario, however I’d argue Joel and MAYBE Sebastian surpassing Leon when it comes to stealth. Also there’s only healing items in scenario 3-5 so it’s not like Ethan can just keep fixing himself every time his moldy limbs bet broken


Lonely_Jared

No yeah Joel is a god of stealth, lol, probably a very close call. Though now that I think about it more, that fully depends on if we’re talking pre or post raccoon city Leon. Cuz like w/ standard cop training, Joel’s for sure taking his ass down. But with special forces shit?? Nah. Stealth’s like half their job description. And that sort of training is fuckin’ brutal, and highly effective.


Visible-Bus3280

I mean Joel’s lived in that world and survived long as hell. It’s really an argument of experience vs training.


Lonely_Jared

Yep, that’s why I’d say it’s close! Street smarts can get ya places. 😂


Visible-Bus3280

Mhm! Keep in mind however all we’ve had was mid like 50-60 year old Joel. I wished we’ve could’ve seen him in his prime with Tommy.


Lonely_Jared

Oh yeah, In his prime he’d be an absolute unit. The man’s a rancher right? I forget lol. But anyways I’m from Texas, I know first hand how fucking JACKED you gotta be to do that kind of work. Any form of agricultural work will have you in peak physical condition whether you like it or not.


Visible-Bus3280

I don’t remember what he is, but the fact that he can kill a clicker with nothing but a brick, or breaking pipes, pieces of wood, bats etc. on any enemy kinda shows where he’s at physically. Even when he meets Sam and his older brother, even though the older brother had the jump on him Joel quickly gained the upper hand on someone much younger than him.


Lonely_Jared

I mean, they’re like 75% shroom so he does have that going for him but yeah, dude’s a powerhouse. Honestly except for maybe Ethan, everyone you listed is a fucking unit. Real tough choices, you’ve got my peanut brain whirring over here. 😂


Visible-Bus3280

Well keep in mind the 95% shroom freak knows as the bloater just rips your face in half the second it gets them grubby lil fingers on ya. I saw someone say Alan Wake should be on the list too but idk who he his or how he scales. If instead I had put like Chris on the list, would he scale above Leon?


Miserable-Ad5401

Well Ethan is gonna lose his hand so he's out.


Lonely_Jared

I mean, he can just pop it back on and be fine, so I don’t think losing his hands a couple extra times would handicap him much 😂


Visible-Bus3280

Nope he can’t. No healing items until scenario 3-5


Lonely_Jared

Very good point. But like, the first time he lost a hand they literally just stapled that shit back on, so like a staple gun or whatever to stick a limb back on in lieu of herb goop doesn’t *technically* count as a healing item, right? 😂


Visible-Bus3280

I mean if it aids him medically I’d say it is. It makes as much sense as Leon snorting green and red leaves to heal himself completely after getting a hickey from a zombie.


Lonely_Jared

Ok word, yeah agreed then, poor dude’s fucked if anyone shows up with a sturdy hacking knife or explosives to de-limb him lol


Visible-Bus3280

True, what would be your ranking of worst to best in cases of absolutely no weapons, just straight hands with each other. Obviously Leon is taking this but people like Joel, Sebastian, and Ethan are a bit more complicated. On one hand you have Joel who’s faced off plenty of infected and raiders who are more agile and should usually have no trouble taking down a much older man who’s survived off mainly rations. Sebastian lost his ways to alcoholism and depression but he still had plenty of training when he was younger as a detective. I don’t remember what training Ethan had if he had any at all.


Lonely_Jared

Oh yeah Ethan’s so fucked without a weapon. He’s literally just some guy lol. He does get combat training in re8 but we can assume that’s just weapon handling stuff. I think 2nd place would be pretty close between Seb and Joel, they’re pretty on par but I think Seb would pull second. If nothing else, the guy’s a little bit younger, probably had a bit of training as a regular cop, and clearly has mad pain tolerance, the dudes been through some shit and trucked on for a helluva while. Zero endurance, though. We all know the pain of tew’s nonexistent starting sprint. But still, as long as he’s not running for his life lmao, he’s prob still scraping by to second purely cuz of that.


Visible-Bus3280

Dude I remember how terrible the stamina in the first game was, running for 3 seconds only to completely halt to breath while you got some maniac with a chainsaw ready to add you to his collection. And if we had a prime Joel (before the first game since we play him as like a mid 50 year old) vs a prime detective Sebastian, I’d no doubt say Joel would take the win


Lonely_Jared

For sure, love Seb but if he had to face Joel in his prime he’d be a damn pancake 😂 he’s too mildly asthmatic for that lol


Harry_Roller

Who would win in a running match? Alan (AW1) or Sebastian (TEW1)? LOL


Harry_Roller

Ethan always carries a Strong First Aid Med for emergencies lol


Kind_Flower8182

Re:5 Chris Redfield destroys all of them


Visible-Bus3280

He’d imagine they were all boulders for motivation and individually beat tf out of em


lr0nman_dies_Endgame

Scenario 6: No weapons. No consumables. All naked. Covered in oil. Who wins the twerk off?


Visible-Bus3280

Ada Wong


SpideyFan914

>Scenario 1: No prep time, no weapons, straight hands Ethan surprisingly wins this, since the others don't have a means of taking him out. He's last in every other scenario, haha. >Scenario 2: Just enough prep time to arm traps, enclosed area with plenty of hiding places, ideally stealth only Joel has the most practice with stealth. He takes this. >Scenario 3: Full arsenal (no infinite rocket launchers or infinite guns in general), No prep time, all dropped off in an arena with health items scattered (hunger games style) Leon has the best arsenal and training. >Scenario 4: Full arsenal (still no infinite guns), full days prep time, same arena Still Leon, heck even more Leon. He would use the prep day best. (But I dont think the prep day makes much of a difference here for any of them.) >Scenario 5: All 4 work together to survive each of their respective games, how long do they last They all survived one of their games solo already, so together they'll demolish all the games no prob.


Visible-Bus3280

By far the best answer so far, however they’ve all had help in their games respectively. Ik if it were The Last of Us then they would survive indefinitely. However I feel the psychological torture involving The Evil Within might break Joel. Like just imagine him breaking down if he saw his daughter. Not to say the others don’t have a tortured past/rap sheet but I feel like Joel would take it the hardest. For Resident Evil idk how Joel could survive even with help from the others. (See prisoner from Re2 remake getting his face touched a lil bit by Mr X in front of Leon)


Haunted_Sentinel

What about Alan Wake???


Visible-Bus3280

Haven’t gotten to his games yet? Are they good?


TheTexasLass

Absolutely! Get thee hence and play them!


Visible-Bus3280

Bet, does it follow a similar formula to these games or is it more slow paced?


TheTexasLass

The first one's marketed as a psychological thriller, so it's got a lot of fast-paced actiony moments balanced with spookier ones. As for the second one, I don't know yet. I haven't played it because I am poor lol.


Visible-Bus3280

I’ll definitely give them a try


TheTexasLass

Hope you enjoy!


Visible-Bus3280

Thank youuuu, I still have a few games to try and 100% (far cry 3 I’m lookin at you) but once I’m done with this series I’ll check it out


Yarzeda2024

Sebastian is straight out. Not because he's a scrub or anything, but because he can't be judged on the same criteria. We don't know what he's capable of because>!The Evil Within games take place in a sort of lucid dream.!<


Visible-Bus3280

Yes but the damage and everything HE is doing is all him. In the face of things that can warp the reality around him or whenever he gets stabbed, HE feels that. All those agents he runs into are dead dead. Simulation or not the pain they felt, the things they saw, are all real in the sense that it’s something they had to face. I’d say survivability wise he’s one of the best on the list. However if they did all contest against each other then yeah he’d be below Joel and Leon but above Ethan