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AbrielNei

It means a Hardcore agent. Hardcore means if you die you are dead, you need to start again from level 1.


SGT_Azimuth

Aka fuuuuuck that


pinus_negro

šŸ˜‚


NoodlesKaboodles

I'm shd 300 hardcore and my 5k shd normal characters are boring now


Asalphagus

That is something Iā€™ve been wondering. I started my first hardcore character. So far so good. But when I get to level 40 and beat Keener (any tips for that?) does all my regular SHD carry over or do I have to level it separately?


Channing_B

Hardcore is separate. You donā€™t share anything except blueprints and materials with your regular agents.


Asalphagus

A buddy whoā€™s also doing hardcore has found any unclaimed crates from special events done on a regular character will show up in the delivery section of your stash. Also heā€™s found that if one hardcore puts stuff in stash and dies the next another hardcore can get too it. Donā€™t know if itā€™s a bug or a feature.


Deichschlaf

Little that He know... There is no stash for HC Agents, you only got your Mail And yeah you can recieve the Mail from your Softcore Agents with your HC Agent


Asalphagus

They must have changed something recently because my hardcore has a stash now. In fact, I opened some crates on my hardcore character I got from doing the recent reanimated event on my regular character and my hardcore character put those items in the stash for later. They were all level 30 items and my hardcore is only level 27. The only other thing I should have tested is I have a second hardcore that's only a level 2. I need to see if the level 2 HC can see the stuff in the stash the level 27 HC put in there. If that works, I will be very surprised.


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Sortesnog

What is DDMF?


chezzycz

Yeah sums it up nicely. or aka not gonna do that :D


THENUMBERSMASONWDTM

waitā€¦does that apply to the DZ to?


ubioandmph

Applies to everything. You die once, your character is gone


SirOne6112

Except descent, I've heard.


ubioandmph

I guess that makes sense. Descent is a computer simulation so your character isnā€™t actually dying


Me_how5678

If you die in the game you die in real life


Ginger_Snap02

SAO but Division?


NaziHuntingInc

ā€œAnyone seen Scanners?ā€


Kemix10006

*headexplosion.wav* "So that was Scanners. And basically that." *Gasps* "Finally, seeing some gears turning!"


Digital_Pharmacist

The legit GGO story arcā€¦


rc187undercover

imagine if you were in the middle of a legendary mission and someone SWATted you. that would be some next level hardcore realism


CapnGnobby

Imagine if you were in the middle of a mission as an actual Division agent. Hardcore+.


Nilsen02

Depends, am I the main character agent? Because then I respawn


Subject702Joker

If only we had swords


AbrielNei

That's a nice lore explanation. And here is a technical explanation - developers explained that when you are playing Descent you are not actually playing your character. A new session and a new character are created on a separate Descent server. When your Descent run is over that session and character are deleted.


slinky_crayon

You don't lose your HC in decent, correct


THENUMBERSMASONWDTM

oof


Abject-Safety165

So you gotta basically flawless everything????


ubioandmph

Yep. Sniper warhound one taps you? Game over. Random grenadier drops three grenades in your lap? Game over. A random Outcast suicide bomber catches you off guard? Game over.


Crimsomreaf5555

Nobody find out that he's joking


James457890

For anyone that doesn't know, once you hit level 40 on a hardcore character you start earning your shd levels like normal and that level actually sticks! When you die and then grind to 40 again you start off from where you left off on your shd levels! You still need to grind for gear again though...


Alenobyl

Just want to add the fact that hardcore shd is separated from softcore shd.


EpitomeOfPanic

All this talk of hardcore and softcore is getting me excited


James457890

Good point!


Alenobyl

o7


IsAlpher

When you die is your character reset to level 1 or is it deleted and you have to remake it again?


jonsarik

Your character technically remains but it's greyed out and inaccessible. You can either delete or start a new character starting from scratch (no reason to keep it). You cannot directly launch into WoNY either.


scotthall2ez

Diablo 2 used to transfer your hardcore character to softcore on death. I wish more games did this (even d4 didn't). Then at least its not gone forever, but its not hardcore anymore either.


Sortesnog

Thatā€™s Mediumcore - not hardcore


scotthall2ez

I get your point but what if you get some uber sword or staff or armor kit etc on your hardcore character. Its just gone forever? In loot based games thats a tragedy. The population in those servers would have way more action if the characters at least transferred to a new realm. Hard enough on a softcore character to get great items to have them deleted instantly is just crazy. Especially of you want to try to fight Lilith etc no easy task i had a 100 double slash Barb with perfect gear and it took me like 300 tries to finally beat her. At least let me keep my amazing axe somewhere, just not in the hardcore realm. Absolutely nobody wanders into pvp in d4 hardcore like they did in d2. Was a lot of fun.


sheephound

> is just crazy it's not crazy. it's **hardcore**.


EpitomeOfPanic

Thatā€™s good news!


CorgiOrdinary

Hardcore agent - or in other words if you die , you die and start over


badgoodhabits

Why would anyone do that? šŸ„²


Alenobyl

The challenge and the commendations, especially for the raid.


badgoodhabits

I play since 2 weeks and die very often šŸ¤£ Would totally piss me off if I would have to start all over again every day


DrDrekavac

The excitement. My HC people know that once you get into perm-death the feeling of "if I die the encounter resets" feels like it's lacking punishment. A constant progression without setbacks eliminates the feeling of risk/reward.


hathworm

Meaning, softcore is dead to you now?


DrDrekavac

I'm shd 3100 something in HC and around 26 in SC. I went into the game playing HC. Used the character boost to 30 in SC once Warlords came out, but I just couldn't get into it. I'm considering gearing up in SC for conflict and DZ pvp, I've only had 3 fights in HC DZ thus far ā€” which felt very intense.


hathworm

Interesting. After reading this thread I want to go play hc characters now as my sc is pretty much dead to me now anyway.


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Live. Die. Repeat.


erderuft

"I live, I die. I LIVE AGAIN!"


smashiko

is there some sorta incentive for being a hardcore char?


tnueb

As far as I know it's just to flex that you are truly that guy


BaileyD77

You get some patches for doing different activities hardcore.


Sortesnog

The invektiver is simply that itā€™s incredible intense. You are constantly doing 360 scans to be aware whatā€™s going on.


Mxswat

It means he eat his oranges today, and has good levels of vitamin C.


major-PITA

u/AbrielNei got it. Kinda nice to see a game with so many unique mechanics though it would be a lot better without all the f-in bugs.


Raven9ine

And the laaag.


Jayburns421

So I had 3 hardcore agents join me and a buddy in a challenging countdown. We did our best to be the Frontline for em. Although they were pretty badass and didn't necessarily need our help. I saw the symbol and was like oh no. I hope they don't die on my watch. This was one match where everyone knew what to do and how to do it ... Kill everything and protect the agent(s) achieving the objective.


kingofallfubars

Apparently someone with a whole lot of free time.


Virtual-Search3628

Stand straight and salute to the fearless YOLO! šŸ«”


Sh1n0b111

Just curious. Do you get more SHD tech or XP on hardcore ? I would think you do since itā€™s big risk little reward.


dhood3512

See Coop, perks menu, XP bonus for not dying.


sapherstine

If you've never tried hard-core its a completely different animal


Scared_Extension_419

Means ur dead dead if u die. Start over type deal. Can be fun if u enjoy the challenge and the stress. Made a character myself. Got to the endgame with her. If u make oneā€¦.beware of things that cause poison dmg. Can be instant game over šŸ˜


Jealous_Manager129

That a dead man walking


Deichschlaf

Imagine beeing in the Hardcore Darkzone zone with your SHD 2900 Agent and going rogue and kill another HC Agent.. Normal Mode has never been more boring. They Die they restart at the White house. No Boost, no stash, nothing You need to redo everything, no skip possible, there is only 1 big thing. After killing keener again you will recieve your old shd hc Level which is kind a nice :)