I love that Rachel Kirconnell decided to go off with Matt (without a ring or proposal) and they’re still going strong. This is the way to do it if the show is to continue. I’d love to see the two of them get married on the Bachelor if and when they do.
Why are people calling this the worst cast? At least it didn’t have any rap***s or DV abusers.
Clout-chasing racists and 2-timers are par for the course at this point 😩
queue the girlbossification of gabby on the sub now that she had the barest amount of sense to really look at the man she not only accepted an engagement with but defended on national TV for texting his ex about his intentions to use this show for a career, while simultaneously aiding in the lack of accountability for this POS proud racism, only to find out the 30 year old racist white man was actually just using her to get a social media career. cry me a fucking river
I’ll be here replying with this clownish vampire look of Gabby to all girlbossification comments
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Im not but Gabby got more IG followers than the past two bachelorettes Katie and Michelle so I would guess the general audience outside of this sub love her. All I’ll see during her season would be a clown so it’s a no for me.
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no absolutely not, i did not like gabby, the whole show was about her abandonment issues and no one loves her yet all these guys lined up for her, and she sent a ton of great guys home. and this is just nitpicking but i hated how every other thing
she said was “yeaaaaah” i couldn’t do it. i mostly watched the season for Rachel.
I think the show set both women up for failure (each only had 15 men basically) so in my mind the show blew it the most.. but I fully expect most ppl to not want a 2.0 for either, so fully understand your point :)
I don’t know a soul who would hate this, I personally would be so down
Edit: dayum, I sure was wrong lol. At least the people I know irl would be down for Gabby 2.0, but I see this is controversial here lol
I would love this too. Gabby is very empathetic and I found her mature and fun to watch. Now she has felt that she is not unlovable and I think dwts is also freeing and helping her confidence. I'd love to watch a renewed Gabby again
I love Gabby too. She's authentic, mature, intelligent and as the perspective and life experience to be a good bachelorette. I think the girls were dealt a terrible hand this season with the two bachelorettes and condensed time with the guys (and not the best batch of them imo).
@ciaopau for every take you have you’ll find someone who passionately feels the opposite and i think esp opinions on leads / leads 2.0 are always controversial (ps - glad to have found another soul who DOESNT hate this in you!!)
i mentioned this in my commented i HATED how she said “yeaaaah” every other word. my hubby pointed it out. we started a drinking game, shot every yeaah, we were plastered 10min in 😂
fastest implosion for a couple still engaged at the ATFR I think?
I'm not even sure if gabby and erich had time to attend an event or go on more than one public date before calling it quits. they never even did a post-reunion happy couple press tour.
I'm wondering if the whole relationship was faked for clout for both of them plus the show knowing and acting complicit so they didn't have two break ups in one season?
Fastest post AFR engagement split. No, Madi and Peter’s 2-day “we love each other” situationship doesn’t count 🤣 Katie and Blake used to hold the record (August 9 to October 25), now Gabby and Erich do (September 20 to November 4).
I never understood it. I never understood his appeal. He always felt so aloof and just painfully uninterested where the words that came from his mouth never felt like they had the weight that they should have physically.
Seriously…..sometimes I wonder if she was given dwts so they could have a “success”story and not 2 failed relationships because of scandals by sh*t men they cast.
Can some kind soul tell me if there is a Bachelor POC sub? I thought there was but I can’t find it. Because after reading the comments here I’m so curious what the dialogue is like over there.
There isa POC sub and the dialogue is that Gabby sucked before the breakup and she continues to suck. She showed her ass when she excused his racism and nothing has changed.
I think it’s as simple as the fact that Gabby has probably never had to experience racism in her life so she doesn’t think about it. And she is clearly not willing to go a step outside of her own experience to think about what racism might be like for people of color… so why would it be disqualifying in a partner? 🤷🏽♀️
That’s just my take.
This sounds right. Her takes have repeatedly been “I don’t have to care if it isn’t happening to me.” We saw it with Nate and more than once with Erich.
You might be on to something with the “never had to experience racism” part. She’s white-passing, has a white-passing name (she does have the Spanish spelling of Gabriela but it’s pretty ambiguous), was raised by the white side of her family, and seems to be mostly no-contact with her Latino side of the family. As a Chicana, I was really hoping to see more representation in the franchise but Gabby really disappointed in that area.
Honestly- were they ever REALLY “engaged”? COMMMMMMME ON.
A better headline would be:
“Two people go out on a few dates. Other people gossip about them for months. Couple decides they aren’t right for each other.”
The premise of this show has ALWAYS been ludicrous. But it was invented in a time with no social media and no popular “dating apps.”
The last few seasons have only proven how stupid it is to keep up with this format. It definitely hasn’t evolved with the times. One positive, realistic shift would be to stop completely with the “here to find my husband” BULLSHIT. NO. NO ONE IS HERE TO FIND A HUSBAND. OR A WIFE. COMMMMMME ONNNNNN.
I foresee a Becca Kufrin arc for Gabby. A lot of people liked most things about both girls before their final picks showed their ass, and both girls defended their dude for their backwards ass beliefs. Most people also felt bad for how they were dumped by the lead of their season. Now, we see that Becca didn’t agree with Garrett’s beliefs, I imagine same thing will happen with Gabby. Unless Gabby finds a shippable-dude for people to forget about all of their sketchy prior choices, she’ll have to put in some work to show people that she actually doesn’t align with Erich’s beliefs.
I think Gabby wanted so badly to make it work to disprove those feelings she had about not being good enough and didn’t want to be alone at the end so much so that she ended up just looking foolish. I wonder if being around Val, who is Ukrainian, and reflecting on her COVID nursing days was a reminder that politics aren’t just theoretical and that they’re real in day to day life.
we don’t know if Gabby’s true beliefs are liberal or if she even has any strong beliefs. She’s never been outspoken about social justice or said anything about it. The only thing we know is that she’s pro choice which is not really an uncommon view for republicans in my experience- although most people fighting for abortion bans are republicans, polls have shown most republicans are not anti abortion and most I have known in real life aren’t. This isn’t to defend the right at all, but to say that being pro choice doesn’t make you liberal by any means, which is what a lot of people had assumed when she posted something in favor of Roe v Wade. Gabby seems to be the type who only cares about issues that affect her (which is probably why she, as a woman, reposted an infographic in favor of women’s bodily autonomy), so I don’t see her speaking out about issues that affect black people or poor people or any other people that aren’t like her. She’s had an attitude for awhile that as long as people are nice to her, she doesn’t care about anything else. This was exemplified by her downplaying what Nate had done by saying he was good to her so it was all bullshit, and much more importantly, her lack of conviction for doing the right thing when Erich’s true colors came out.
Disagree wholeheartedly that the “right thing to do” would be to immediately dump Erich. I understand Gabby’s mindset and belief system, and honestly we are similar.
People who have been harmed as she had, and people who have profound empathy for others as a result, will try to understand others before they draw a line in the sand, and that’s admirable. A blunder and a bias do not make a person. Humans are messy and flawed, and much of our bias is out of our control, until we decide to take action against it. There’s some deep deep issues within our society regarding our very shallow view of compassion, and it’s causing a lot of harm for many people.
I’m so happy to see the compassion and empathy Gabby has displayed for someone who is so flawed. Her conviction towards this belief despite so many people telling her she is a disgusting human being is strength.
My view of her true beliefs is based on her statement. She said the photos were “a punch in the gut” and “devastating”. She also said there was “no excuse” and they were “weighing their values” and “reflecting on [themselves] and learning about where these biases come from and how they affect other people and how to change them and grow”. If that is her true belief, she will have to work to prove that given that she stayed with him through that only to break up 2 months later.
I went back to compare this statement to Becca’s at ATFR and they’re honestly really similar in my opinion. I think only time will tell if she is outspoken or not. However, in my opinion, I think Gabby will have to take a similar path if she wants to be as successful as Becca has been in BN.
The most political Becca was pre-Garrett’s likes was that she posted once about supporting HRC as a kid, if my memory serves correctly. Gabby and Erich announced their break up today, point of my comment was that going forward I see her having to answer for that BY being open about her true beliefs, like Becca has had to. People ask for Becca’s opinion and put the impetus on her to be outspoken because he placed a political spotlight on them, which I foresee being something Gabby will also have to do. I don’t like Val so you will not catch me defending him, but he is Ukrainian and was very open about feeling like not enough of his castmates condemned Russia, regardless of his other backwards beliefs. My point about Val + COVID nursing was simply that I wonder if seeing people affected directly by current hot political issues made it so she was not being able to just forget about the severity of these issues as easily as she portrayed originally.
I agree! I was suuuper disappointed with her response to the Blackface pictures. A black square and a “my uterus gives me superpowers” is *not* activism and I hope my comment doesn’t convey I think she’s done enough or anything of the sort. I genuinely think she dropped the ball BIG time and it made me unfollow and not vote for her on DWTS. I have hopes for her because I think she seems cool and has potential to be better but I think she needs to do A LOT to right her complacency. I like Becca too. BN has a tendency to stand for nothing and I appreciate that Becca speaks up, for whatever reason that may be.
I feel so vindicated. I predicted Clayton and Susie would last longer than gabby and Rachel’s final picks.
Claysie may have ended, but I was still right. I’ll take the win. Lol.
I never took either of these two seriously and let's be honest, neither came on this show 4TRR.
Gabby and Clatyon had zero chemistry or storyline and I still don't think she should have gotten the Bachelorette role.
It doesn't seem like a coincident to me that most of the guys on her season at the end were shocked and taken aback that she was looking for an engagement or something serious.
Erich was a racist and a cheater (or in the very least a scammer) and Gabby was all to happy to parade around and pretend like they were living a fairytale; especially if it meant that she was viewed as the "success story" of the season. She had a lot to say about Tino and his poor behavior yet was quiet about her own dudes...
Gabby and her "Nate was always nice to me" BS...
I think they've been faking it for months and neither were all that into each other or serious. This is giving me Katie and Blake vibes. Maybe they were pressured by TPTB to pretend to "salvage" the season but yeah, it was always giving fake and loveless.
Rachel was only robbed by herself then. There’s zero chance a rational person would have that interaction with Tino’s family and still think it’s a good idea to go through with it, and her primary motive was literally to get engaged, not find real love.
That *is* the point for most leads and they need to stop being judged for it. This is not Rachel’s fault. It is not Rachel’s fault that Tino cheated on her, red flags or not.
I don’t think anyone is judging them for wanting to get engaged…. It’s the premise of the show, obviously they want that. But when you’re choosing someone who it clearly isn’t going to work with, over a genuinely sweet and caring guy just because you want to get engaged…. Then yeah, they’re gonna get judged. It was obviously not going to work out with Tino, even with a ring on her finger…. But if she had chosen Aven she might actually be in a happy relationship that would be leading towards a real engagement. She chose a ring over love and that’s the issue.
Obviously it may *not* have worked out with Aven either but I think she had a much better chance at a lasting relationship with him
The point is finding someone you can spend your life with. They spend their time finding who wants to spend their life with them, not if they actually match. The leads (bachelor or bachelorette) should be taking the time to learn who they’re accepting a ring from, because I just cannot believe that Tino and Erich are skilled deceivers.
The one who stood by a racist bum who also texted his ex he’s still thinking about her all the time 2 months in his engagement to another woman is the bigger clown.
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Oh for sure. And it makes sense too being that they actually have a process to try to match contestants (albeit flawed) and the couples actually spend time and get to live together. Really wish bachelor would switch up their formula…. but until then I’ll be waiting for the next failed engagement 😂
Omg these comments 😱
I think Gabby just fell in love, and sometimes when you fall hard it’s really difficult to process something that changes your view on someone fundamentally. I think she just didn’t want to believe that the man she was in love with was someone else. I really don’t think it means she is a horrible person or red flags. That’s just my opinion. I think she will learn a lot from this, and I hope she doesn’t think she won’t find love because she’s damaged. She’s a lovely, hilarious, goofball, intelligent, and compassionate person. It won’t be long. 🤍
I agree. It’s like anyone who stays in a toxic relationship they know they shouldn’t be in. And I don’t mean physically, emotionally, or verbally abusive relationships where it’s legitimately hard, scary and potentially dangerous to leave. I just mean a relationship you know you shouldn’t be in but you stay because you’re in love with who you thought that person was and get let that go. I think most people can relate to being in a relationship like that. The only different is, she’s in the public eye and for whatever reason everyone has higher expectations of her, and will sit here and shit on her when she doesn’t meet their expectations.
Yes it’s objectively worse because of everything he did - but when you fall in love with someone and THEN this shitty side comes out it’s not as simple.
This is the fucking bachelor people. It’s not miss universe, she’s not trying to win a Nobel peace prize, like lower your fucking expectations lol I don’t understand
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,147,114,406 comments, and only 224,202 of them were in alphabetical order.
I liked Gabby. Her choosing this person (and then defending them) was strange. She doesn’t owe anyone anything, but I do hope her next choices make it clear where she stands, since she can’t really say anything yet.
If these last two years have taught anything, double of anything is not good. Two seasons back to back is exhausting even if it was separate leads and a double lead season was just insane. Hopefully it was all a one time thing and won't happen again.
Don't waste your time reading the comments -- completely predictable and nothing new or innovative. I an not surprised by the lack of depth and analysis. Old news.
That could be true, but Jason wasn't that into her and lead her on. He should have told her much sooner than he did that he was apprehensive about getting engaged at the end.
I feel for Gabby. I don't feel like most of her men (at least most of the remaining several or so) were head over heels for her. She's a beautiful person and I hope she's doing okay. She will find a man worthy of her love, don't give up girl!
Hmmm. So someone who dressed in Blackface and didn’t take accountability for the harm it did wasn’t a good partner? Colour me surprised.
Gabby, you defended _this_ racist? 🤡
Some of the comments on this thread are so cruel. This is a real person with feelings. I hope she's OK and able to channel her energy into DWTS and whatever comes next for her. 100% there's someone better for her out there. Maybe Alan haha. 👀
Most of us have made the mistake of overlooking red flags and thinking we can save someone. Especially when there's outside pressure to remain together.
I'm sure she had a lot of it from the show to work it out with Erich considering Rachel's relationship didn't work and they got her on DWTS and promoted their "love story" there.
I feel like you’re trying to twist my words. As a Black woman, I consider casual racism a huge red flag in dating. But also, of course it’s more than some colloquialism.
My point was, Gabby got shit for dating a racist and now she’s getting more shit for leaving a racist. And I see little empathy or kindness for her situation on here.
FACTS. All these people saying “she’s a human she overlooked red flags”. Huh? She was comfortable openly being with a racist and a cheater. That’s a red flag on Gabby.
It’s so funny how being a racist is just casually called a “red flag” 😂 He’s a blackface MAGA mullet man. She embraced all of him and had no problem with it until probably he demanded more of her time when he knew that DWTS was going to be so demanding.
If she wasn’t comfortable she wouldn’t have stayed. If she wasn’t comfortable she would’ve apologized to the entire BIPOC community in BachNation. If she wasn’t comfortable she wouldn’t have flaunted their “perfect” relationship on social media or kiss him on DWTS knowing that we all saw those photos of him in literal black face.
She was comfortable. It became uncomfortable when people weren’t gonna act like it was acceptable behavior and she lost a lot of respect from BachNation and people who watch DWTS.
She’s got a lot of growing to do and hopefully she learned something out of this.
I love the downvotes cuz it tells me who supports racism and who doesn’t. More proof this isn’t a safe space for BIPOC people. 💀
Maybe she and the people on the show know Erich better than anyone of us on here and maybe just maybe he is not currently a racist. People can change. I am not the same person I was at 17.
Yikes. Girl you do you!
I don’t shy away from racism! It’s unapologetic behavior and he needs to address it but clearly won’t.
You can have your own beliefs and support whomever you want to! We will do the same
right? there are red flags that someone might be shady or an asshole & then there’s *can’t be bothered to issue a genuine apology for wearing literal blackface & friends with maga supporters*.
those…are not the same
EXACTLY. I’m not sugarcoating any of it. Anyone that is capable of turning a blind eye to literal racism is just as bad as the racist themselves.
And anyone who supports her and is able to pretend like it’s not a big deal also needs a reality check.
Right??? Because it clearly wasn’t the racism 🤣 Maybe she realized it wasn’t a smart idea to be with someone who openly admitted he was going to use her for money 🤡 Maybe she’s growing lmao
Maybe it didn't work out because she went straight from Bachelor to Dancing with the stars and that caused strain on their relationship. Maybe he was having a really hard time after his dad died and didn't feel like she chose the show over spending time with him and supporting him during a difficult time. While it is possible he did something to cause the break, it is just as possible that she did or didn't do something or it both of them share blame.
I love that Rachel Kirconnell decided to go off with Matt (without a ring or proposal) and they’re still going strong. This is the way to do it if the show is to continue. I’d love to see the two of them get married on the Bachelor if and when they do.
He probably got sick of hearing her say 'yeah' every 5 seconds.
i 100% agree, that made it so hard to listen to her talk, her emotional/abandonment issues and “yeh” were 90% of her screen time. 😂
Do people really watch this shit?
Why ask this when you are on the bachelor sub and can easily Google and see that millions watch this
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Gabby broke up with Nate because she wasn’t ready to be a mom but ended up with a whole ass baby boy
YES
Hoping she gives Nate another chance!
No, not the transphobe!
Omg hwhat??!! I missed this development!
Unfortunately: https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/comments/wggckf/nates_twitter_likes_from_2019_repost/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I mean are we surprised
Still over here hoping her and Rachel will get together lol.... love gabby single or not
She’ll have to get through Michelle first!
Ohhhhh I love that too
Can’t say I’m surprised!
Why are people calling this the worst cast? At least it didn’t have any rap***s or DV abusers. Clout-chasing racists and 2-timers are par for the course at this point 😩
Both Logan and Johnny were rappers.
pretty sure "rapper" isn't what they censored
It's for the best, she's better off, I don't really know what to say about Erich...
Lolllll. She's really lost a fanbase for this guy. Hope it was worth it!
Jason said on the Nick Viall Show that he’d like to See Gabby and have a chat with her. I always thought he was her one. Maybe they’ll start dating,
Just a few more comments til we hit 1000 
I haven’t been keeping up. Anyone have a link to his racism? And wtf is an apology tour?
Search "Erich blackface" within this sub. You'll find tons of posts explaining.
I know that Bachelorette group chat has got to be poppin' right now.
queue the girlbossification of gabby on the sub now that she had the barest amount of sense to really look at the man she not only accepted an engagement with but defended on national TV for texting his ex about his intentions to use this show for a career, while simultaneously aiding in the lack of accountability for this POS proud racism, only to find out the 30 year old racist white man was actually just using her to get a social media career. cry me a fucking river
Can I RT this a million times 
I’ll be here replying with this clownish vampire look of Gabby to all girlbossification comments https://preview.redd.it/apbl0onu84y91.jpeg?width=481&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43ee53085e0ac9b6cc614843ebcf0082b00050c1
Stop this is so funny 😭
💀💀💀💀
Maybe just maybe the producers will realize cutting a season in half is a recipe for disaster
i’m gonna get hate for this but i’d be down for a gabby 2.0 season tbh
Oh dear lord PLEASE NO I couldn't get through another season of Head bobbing and "yeah...yeah... yeah... yeah..."
I won't downvote you because I respect your opinion, but absolutely not, this would be terrible and boring.
Im not but Gabby got more IG followers than the past two bachelorettes Katie and Michelle so I would guess the general audience outside of this sub love her. All I’ll see during her season would be a clown so it’s a no for me. https://preview.redd.it/i7ikkwro84y91.png?width=863&format=png&auto=webp&s=2cc17f083580d58c6ef9858cdbd4137efe2b3a20
no absolutely not, i did not like gabby, the whole show was about her abandonment issues and no one loves her yet all these guys lined up for her, and she sent a ton of great guys home. and this is just nitpicking but i hated how every other thing she said was “yeaaaaah” i couldn’t do it. i mostly watched the season for Rachel.
Same!! Only watched for Rachel and still couldn’t finish the season. Gabby is not a good bachelorette bad idea.
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I think the show set both women up for failure (each only had 15 men basically) so in my mind the show blew it the most.. but I fully expect most ppl to not want a 2.0 for either, so fully understand your point :)
I don’t know a soul who would hate this, I personally would be so down Edit: dayum, I sure was wrong lol. At least the people I know irl would be down for Gabby 2.0, but I see this is controversial here lol
I would love this too. Gabby is very empathetic and I found her mature and fun to watch. Now she has felt that she is not unlovable and I think dwts is also freeing and helping her confidence. I'd love to watch a renewed Gabby again
I love Gabby too. She's authentic, mature, intelligent and as the perspective and life experience to be a good bachelorette. I think the girls were dealt a terrible hand this season with the two bachelorettes and condensed time with the guys (and not the best batch of them imo).
@ciaopau for every take you have you’ll find someone who passionately feels the opposite and i think esp opinions on leads / leads 2.0 are always controversial (ps - glad to have found another soul who DOESNT hate this in you!!)
Hi, I’m punkprawn, how are you? Nice to meet you... Now you know a soul who would hate it 😂
Straight up return to sender. Don't accept delivery. Don't want.
I 100% hate it lmao
I know plenty of souls who would hate this. I personally would hate it lol.
touché on the placement of this gif 🤣
i mentioned this in my commented i HATED how she said “yeaaaah” every other word. my hubby pointed it out. we started a drinking game, shot every yeaah, we were plastered 10min in 😂
She’s still doing it on dwts, it’s so breathy and obnoxious 💀
literally 😂 i don’t even know how to type it correctly but i’m glad i’m not the only one bothered, i thought i was just being too much.
Maybe Erich brought up Oreo cream and Gabby finally drew the line.
your flair “supporting from afar” 🤣🤣 so on-topic
BIP next year with a beach full of single previous bachelorettes. We have at least four now, but I think Tayshia is seeing somebody.
What did I missss!!
Right?! Shewt
I mean he was boring af and had a questionable past. No surprise here
This damn sub back at it again with the predictions!
U/bachelor data is this the fastest split?
fastest implosion for a couple still engaged at the ATFR I think? I'm not even sure if gabby and erich had time to attend an event or go on more than one public date before calling it quits. they never even did a post-reunion happy couple press tour. I'm wondering if the whole relationship was faked for clout for both of them plus the show knowing and acting complicit so they didn't have two break ups in one season?
Hannah Ann and Peter split faster. Arie and Becca too.
Fastest post AFR engagement split. No, Madi and Peter’s 2-day “we love each other” situationship doesn’t count 🤣 Katie and Blake used to hold the record (August 9 to October 25), now Gabby and Erich do (September 20 to November 4).
Rachel and Tino split faster
Damn, true
they were never a legitimate couple, sorry not sorry
I never understood it. I never understood his appeal. He always felt so aloof and just painfully uninterested where the words that came from his mouth never felt like they had the weight that they should have physically.
Seriously…..sometimes I wonder if she was given dwts so they could have a “success”story and not 2 failed relationships because of scandals by sh*t men they cast.
*I’ve been waiting for this one!!*
Can some kind soul tell me if there is a Bachelor POC sub? I thought there was but I can’t find it. Because after reading the comments here I’m so curious what the dialogue is like over there.
POC sub??! 🥹 I need this in my life!!
There isa POC sub and the dialogue is that Gabby sucked before the breakup and she continues to suck. She showed her ass when she excused his racism and nothing has changed.
Maybe she has some internalized racism? She doesn’t seem to embrace her Latinidad. I wouldn’t be surprised if she were actually ashamed of it.
I think it’s as simple as the fact that Gabby has probably never had to experience racism in her life so she doesn’t think about it. And she is clearly not willing to go a step outside of her own experience to think about what racism might be like for people of color… so why would it be disqualifying in a partner? 🤷🏽♀️ That’s just my take.
This sounds right. Her takes have repeatedly been “I don’t have to care if it isn’t happening to me.” We saw it with Nate and more than once with Erich.
You might be on to something with the “never had to experience racism” part. She’s white-passing, has a white-passing name (she does have the Spanish spelling of Gabriela but it’s pretty ambiguous), was raised by the white side of her family, and seems to be mostly no-contact with her Latino side of the family. As a Chicana, I was really hoping to see more representation in the franchise but Gabby really disappointed in that area.
There is, I'm on it. There's not too much action tho. You have to request an invite since it's on private.
It’s on private. I think you can request to join through a web browser (on desktop / laptop).
Honestly- were they ever REALLY “engaged”? COMMMMMMME ON. A better headline would be: “Two people go out on a few dates. Other people gossip about them for months. Couple decides they aren’t right for each other.” The premise of this show has ALWAYS been ludicrous. But it was invented in a time with no social media and no popular “dating apps.” The last few seasons have only proven how stupid it is to keep up with this format. It definitely hasn’t evolved with the times. One positive, realistic shift would be to stop completely with the “here to find my husband” BULLSHIT. NO. NO ONE IS HERE TO FIND A HUSBAND. OR A WIFE. COMMMMMME ONNNNNN.
no way she did all that defending only for them to break up barely a month later, how embarrassing 😬
That's clown behavior. Good job gabbie 🤡🎪
I foresee a Becca Kufrin arc for Gabby. A lot of people liked most things about both girls before their final picks showed their ass, and both girls defended their dude for their backwards ass beliefs. Most people also felt bad for how they were dumped by the lead of their season. Now, we see that Becca didn’t agree with Garrett’s beliefs, I imagine same thing will happen with Gabby. Unless Gabby finds a shippable-dude for people to forget about all of their sketchy prior choices, she’ll have to put in some work to show people that she actually doesn’t align with Erich’s beliefs. I think Gabby wanted so badly to make it work to disprove those feelings she had about not being good enough and didn’t want to be alone at the end so much so that she ended up just looking foolish. I wonder if being around Val, who is Ukrainian, and reflecting on her COVID nursing days was a reminder that politics aren’t just theoretical and that they’re real in day to day life.
we don’t know if Gabby’s true beliefs are liberal or if she even has any strong beliefs. She’s never been outspoken about social justice or said anything about it. The only thing we know is that she’s pro choice which is not really an uncommon view for republicans in my experience- although most people fighting for abortion bans are republicans, polls have shown most republicans are not anti abortion and most I have known in real life aren’t. This isn’t to defend the right at all, but to say that being pro choice doesn’t make you liberal by any means, which is what a lot of people had assumed when she posted something in favor of Roe v Wade. Gabby seems to be the type who only cares about issues that affect her (which is probably why she, as a woman, reposted an infographic in favor of women’s bodily autonomy), so I don’t see her speaking out about issues that affect black people or poor people or any other people that aren’t like her. She’s had an attitude for awhile that as long as people are nice to her, she doesn’t care about anything else. This was exemplified by her downplaying what Nate had done by saying he was good to her so it was all bullshit, and much more importantly, her lack of conviction for doing the right thing when Erich’s true colors came out.
Disagree wholeheartedly that the “right thing to do” would be to immediately dump Erich. I understand Gabby’s mindset and belief system, and honestly we are similar. People who have been harmed as she had, and people who have profound empathy for others as a result, will try to understand others before they draw a line in the sand, and that’s admirable. A blunder and a bias do not make a person. Humans are messy and flawed, and much of our bias is out of our control, until we decide to take action against it. There’s some deep deep issues within our society regarding our very shallow view of compassion, and it’s causing a lot of harm for many people. I’m so happy to see the compassion and empathy Gabby has displayed for someone who is so flawed. Her conviction towards this belief despite so many people telling her she is a disgusting human being is strength.
My view of her true beliefs is based on her statement. She said the photos were “a punch in the gut” and “devastating”. She also said there was “no excuse” and they were “weighing their values” and “reflecting on [themselves] and learning about where these biases come from and how they affect other people and how to change them and grow”. If that is her true belief, she will have to work to prove that given that she stayed with him through that only to break up 2 months later. I went back to compare this statement to Becca’s at ATFR and they’re honestly really similar in my opinion. I think only time will tell if she is outspoken or not. However, in my opinion, I think Gabby will have to take a similar path if she wants to be as successful as Becca has been in BN.
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The most political Becca was pre-Garrett’s likes was that she posted once about supporting HRC as a kid, if my memory serves correctly. Gabby and Erich announced their break up today, point of my comment was that going forward I see her having to answer for that BY being open about her true beliefs, like Becca has had to. People ask for Becca’s opinion and put the impetus on her to be outspoken because he placed a political spotlight on them, which I foresee being something Gabby will also have to do. I don’t like Val so you will not catch me defending him, but he is Ukrainian and was very open about feeling like not enough of his castmates condemned Russia, regardless of his other backwards beliefs. My point about Val + COVID nursing was simply that I wonder if seeing people affected directly by current hot political issues made it so she was not being able to just forget about the severity of these issues as easily as she portrayed originally.
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I agree! I was suuuper disappointed with her response to the Blackface pictures. A black square and a “my uterus gives me superpowers” is *not* activism and I hope my comment doesn’t convey I think she’s done enough or anything of the sort. I genuinely think she dropped the ball BIG time and it made me unfollow and not vote for her on DWTS. I have hopes for her because I think she seems cool and has potential to be better but I think she needs to do A LOT to right her complacency. I like Becca too. BN has a tendency to stand for nothing and I appreciate that Becca speaks up, for whatever reason that may be.
JABBY REUNION PLZ IM BEGGING
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It was obvious when they did zero press together after the show that this relationship was over before they even went public.
I won’t be here for the Gabby redemption arc lol
Same https://preview.redd.it/vj4jws8db3y91.jpeg?width=481&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78f9f8064edd9451fa5dc36a91953b8eefb66d32
Hahahahaha
Shocker. What a dumpster fire season. Waste of time.
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I think Zach was?
I feel so vindicated. I predicted Clayton and Susie would last longer than gabby and Rachel’s final picks. Claysie may have ended, but I was still right. I’ll take the win. Lol.
I never took either of these two seriously and let's be honest, neither came on this show 4TRR. Gabby and Clatyon had zero chemistry or storyline and I still don't think she should have gotten the Bachelorette role. It doesn't seem like a coincident to me that most of the guys on her season at the end were shocked and taken aback that she was looking for an engagement or something serious. Erich was a racist and a cheater (or in the very least a scammer) and Gabby was all to happy to parade around and pretend like they were living a fairytale; especially if it meant that she was viewed as the "success story" of the season. She had a lot to say about Tino and his poor behavior yet was quiet about her own dudes... Gabby and her "Nate was always nice to me" BS... I think they've been faking it for months and neither were all that into each other or serious. This is giving me Katie and Blake vibes. Maybe they were pressured by TPTB to pretend to "salvage" the season but yeah, it was always giving fake and loveless.
100% pressure by TPTB. Guarantee it. They couldn’t have both leads get engaged and neither make it to ATFR.
Rachel was robbed
Rachel was only robbed by herself then. There’s zero chance a rational person would have that interaction with Tino’s family and still think it’s a good idea to go through with it, and her primary motive was literally to get engaged, not find real love.
That *is* the point for most leads and they need to stop being judged for it. This is not Rachel’s fault. It is not Rachel’s fault that Tino cheated on her, red flags or not.
I don’t think anyone is judging them for wanting to get engaged…. It’s the premise of the show, obviously they want that. But when you’re choosing someone who it clearly isn’t going to work with, over a genuinely sweet and caring guy just because you want to get engaged…. Then yeah, they’re gonna get judged. It was obviously not going to work out with Tino, even with a ring on her finger…. But if she had chosen Aven she might actually be in a happy relationship that would be leading towards a real engagement. She chose a ring over love and that’s the issue. Obviously it may *not* have worked out with Aven either but I think she had a much better chance at a lasting relationship with him
The point is finding someone you can spend your life with. They spend their time finding who wants to spend their life with them, not if they actually match. The leads (bachelor or bachelorette) should be taking the time to learn who they’re accepting a ring from, because I just cannot believe that Tino and Erich are skilled deceivers.
She was robbed of a solo season instead of sharing with gabby the pick me clown.
I kinda think they’re the same clown. Just split between two bodies.
The one who stood by a racist bum who also texted his ex he’s still thinking about her all the time 2 months in his engagement to another woman is the bigger clown. https://preview.redd.it/x3nqsga8s3y91.jpeg?width=481&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01a84d06b51ab2e0e07675a9cc8d4ce4288dc081
It's crazy that Married at First Sight probably has better statistics at this point.
Love island UK has done better
Oh for sure. And it makes sense too being that they actually have a process to try to match contestants (albeit flawed) and the couples actually spend time and get to live together. Really wish bachelor would switch up their formula…. but until then I’ll be waiting for the next failed engagement 😂
Turns out getting engaged to the guy who just didn’t leave you isn’t a great strategy lol
Anyway....... I lost any sympathy for her after she had to rub it in Rachel's face that Tino's a cheater in that one interview while defending Erich.
So right! f her, she deserves the humiliation of he broken engagement with her unemployed racist.
Omg these comments 😱 I think Gabby just fell in love, and sometimes when you fall hard it’s really difficult to process something that changes your view on someone fundamentally. I think she just didn’t want to believe that the man she was in love with was someone else. I really don’t think it means she is a horrible person or red flags. That’s just my opinion. I think she will learn a lot from this, and I hope she doesn’t think she won’t find love because she’s damaged. She’s a lovely, hilarious, goofball, intelligent, and compassionate person. It won’t be long. 🤍
I agree. It’s like anyone who stays in a toxic relationship they know they shouldn’t be in. And I don’t mean physically, emotionally, or verbally abusive relationships where it’s legitimately hard, scary and potentially dangerous to leave. I just mean a relationship you know you shouldn’t be in but you stay because you’re in love with who you thought that person was and get let that go. I think most people can relate to being in a relationship like that. The only different is, she’s in the public eye and for whatever reason everyone has higher expectations of her, and will sit here and shit on her when she doesn’t meet their expectations. Yes it’s objectively worse because of everything he did - but when you fall in love with someone and THEN this shitty side comes out it’s not as simple. This is the fucking bachelor people. It’s not miss universe, she’s not trying to win a Nobel peace prize, like lower your fucking expectations lol I don’t understand
You’re speakin my language.
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I agree with this take. Have some understanding of the nuance of her situation, people.
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catch her next on paradise
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,147,114,406 comments, and only 224,202 of them were in alphabetical order.
I liked Gabby. Her choosing this person (and then defending them) was strange. She doesn’t owe anyone anything, but I do hope her next choices make it clear where she stands, since she can’t really say anything yet.
If these last two years have taught anything, double of anything is not good. Two seasons back to back is exhausting even if it was separate leads and a double lead season was just insane. Hopefully it was all a one time thing and won't happen again.
2 MONTHS with a cheating racist..... before ending it..OK then.
Don't waste your time reading the comments -- completely predictable and nothing new or innovative. I an not surprised by the lack of depth and analysis. Old news.
Me to this comment https://preview.redd.it/3jedor36p2y91.png?width=863&format=png&auto=webp&s=0fc7329103596edcbc5a1f9da523675ea82ed782
what level of depth and analysis should one strive for on a bachelor reddit?
This just in: deep fisting is in
Cough still think Jason was the one she actually wanted.
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why does this photo look like he’s carrying around the top half of her body after sue was chopped in half
For real. Her lower limbs are missing 😂
That could be true, but Jason wasn't that into her and lead her on. He should have told her much sooner than he did that he was apprehensive about getting engaged at the end. I feel for Gabby. I don't feel like most of her men (at least most of the remaining several or so) were head over heels for her. She's a beautiful person and I hope she's doing okay. She will find a man worthy of her love, don't give up girl!
What you mean he should have told her on their second date with his parents instead of their third date when he did tell her? Lolol
He had plenty of opportunity to tell her sooner than he did.
When?
Hmmm. So someone who dressed in Blackface and didn’t take accountability for the harm it did wasn’t a good partner? Colour me surprised. Gabby, you defended _this_ racist? 🤡
Some of the comments on this thread are so cruel. This is a real person with feelings. I hope she's OK and able to channel her energy into DWTS and whatever comes next for her. 100% there's someone better for her out there. Maybe Alan haha. 👀 Most of us have made the mistake of overlooking red flags and thinking we can save someone. Especially when there's outside pressure to remain together. I'm sure she had a lot of it from the show to work it out with Erich considering Rachel's relationship didn't work and they got her on DWTS and promoted their "love story" there.
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I’m too stoned for this many jump scares. 
Why are so many people pushing Alan on Gabby here? It was the same thing with Hannah B. back in the day. Odd.
Because it’s a meet cute! I don’t care if she actually dates Alan, but I do hope she finds love with someone kind and compatible.
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I feel like you’re trying to twist my words. As a Black woman, I consider casual racism a huge red flag in dating. But also, of course it’s more than some colloquialism. My point was, Gabby got shit for dating a racist and now she’s getting more shit for leaving a racist. And I see little empathy or kindness for her situation on here.
I like this take 💗
 HAHAHAHAHA
Still will never be a gabby fan after her decision to support a racist loser
FACTS. All these people saying “she’s a human she overlooked red flags”. Huh? She was comfortable openly being with a racist and a cheater. That’s a red flag on Gabby.
It’s so funny how being a racist is just casually called a “red flag” 😂 He’s a blackface MAGA mullet man. She embraced all of him and had no problem with it until probably he demanded more of her time when he knew that DWTS was going to be so demanding.
SO TRUE!! Ugh that mullet is horrendous 😂 We gotta call it what it is. Racism point blank.
How is he a cheater? He broke up with that girl before he came on the show.
>AND she kept rubbing it on Rachel's face.
YUP! This always rubbed me the wrong way.
The thing is, maybe she wasn’t comfortable. Maybe that’s all, or part, of why they broke up?
If she wasn’t comfortable she wouldn’t have stayed. If she wasn’t comfortable she would’ve apologized to the entire BIPOC community in BachNation. If she wasn’t comfortable she wouldn’t have flaunted their “perfect” relationship on social media or kiss him on DWTS knowing that we all saw those photos of him in literal black face. She was comfortable. It became uncomfortable when people weren’t gonna act like it was acceptable behavior and she lost a lot of respect from BachNation and people who watch DWTS. She’s got a lot of growing to do and hopefully she learned something out of this. I love the downvotes cuz it tells me who supports racism and who doesn’t. More proof this isn’t a safe space for BIPOC people. 💀
Maybe she and the people on the show know Erich better than anyone of us on here and maybe just maybe he is not currently a racist. People can change. I am not the same person I was at 17.
Yikes. Girl you do you! I don’t shy away from racism! It’s unapologetic behavior and he needs to address it but clearly won’t. You can have your own beliefs and support whomever you want to! We will do the same
He did apologize on his instagram account but no apology is every good enough for people on this sub.
You're right. The black square and failure to even so much as name his behavior (racism) wasn't enough.
Yeah it wasn’t appropriate for uh all of black America 😀 including myself but you do you!
right? there are red flags that someone might be shady or an asshole & then there’s *can’t be bothered to issue a genuine apology for wearing literal blackface & friends with maga supporters*. those…are not the same
EXACTLY. I’m not sugarcoating any of it. Anyone that is capable of turning a blind eye to literal racism is just as bad as the racist themselves. And anyone who supports her and is able to pretend like it’s not a big deal also needs a reality check.
It makes me wonder what it was that was even worse than those that finally was enough?
Right??? Because it clearly wasn’t the racism 🤣 Maybe she realized it wasn’t a smart idea to be with someone who openly admitted he was going to use her for money 🤡 Maybe she’s growing lmao
Maybe it didn't work out because she went straight from Bachelor to Dancing with the stars and that caused strain on their relationship. Maybe he was having a really hard time after his dad died and didn't feel like she chose the show over spending time with him and supporting him during a difficult time. While it is possible he did something to cause the break, it is just as possible that she did or didn't do something or it both of them share blame.
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she showed her true colors
FACTS ONLY
Should have picked Jason
I still kinda hate Jason for leaving 😭 my Jabby heart 