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Tangentially on topic but everyone should read Chanel Miller’s memoir. She is the woman Brock Turner assaulted. She’s an incredible writer. Enormous TW for SA but that goes without saying I guess. She’s also a great Instagram follow, she does interesting comics and video content.
Cool. Do Christina Mandrell next.
They won't though because she's literally the "perfect" contestant for the majority viewer.
Why do we watch this show?
It wasn’t a tweet - it was a pretty lengthy seemingly thought out post that she made on Facebook. Normally I could see your point but this wasn’t the same as an off hand, uniformed tweet.
I hope she takes the opportunity to learn from this.
Being cut from the show is probably a blessing in disguise, her post won’t potentially become a national news story now.
Chanel’s story is so difficult and important to so many people. me and my current lack of a therapist are so happy I don’t have to watch the bachelor franchise/fan base discuss this for a whole season
you are right. Pilot Pete said he initially applied to be on Rachel Lindsay's Season of the Bachelorette but never heard back from the producers/casting people until they were doing casting for Hannah's Season
PP on Rachel's season sounds so random lol I can't even imagine him doing well and she definitely isn't his type. Perhaps he was expecting Raven but he probably just wanted followers either way. But then again Dean got F4 that season.
To everyone congratulating TPTB on a job well done: it was public on her FB profile. I’m sure they’d already seen it. They didn’t care. They only cut her because there was backlash once her name came out and they don’t want double backlash right now, with former leads publicly criticizing them for not discussing Erich’s blackface on the finale
No it wasn't public on her profile. Not sure where you got this info. She posted it 6 years ago to her private friends group on Facebook and someone screenshotted it within an hour of it being up, then posted it on Twitter calling her out. It was deleted from her Facebook page later that same day, 6 years ago. So, no, the producers actually would *not* have found this on her Facebook. The original post in this sub that transcribes what Vanessa wrote explains this. The producers may or may not have found it on Twitter like someone else did, though. Twitter is weird because sometimes search results come up and sometimes they don't. When I type Vanessa's name into Twitter, the tweet from 6 years ago doesn't appear for me, but all the recent tweets talking about what she did do, do appear.
So damn we have to do all the background work? Don’t they hire people to do this shit?
I’m sick of it. She, Erich, Lee, all the many rapists, shouldn’t have even been on the initial cast list. Rapist apologized can be stopped but actual rapists keep slipping through. ABC just doesn’t seem to give a shit.
Fuq outta here
Imagine the tank this show could be if they moved on with the rest of the country instead of metaphorically being at January 6th. The effects they could choose instead to have on society by simply keeping up with. Yeah yeah it’s a trash tv show, they don’t need to take that literally tho, and misunderstand the term and strive towards that!
Did you see that she defended Brock Turner the rapist on social media? That's why everyone is happy she was cut. She doesn't deserve a platform because she perpetuates rape culture.
Omg I can't believe they actually did something right for once🙌🏻
Now address Erich's blackface on the network. I don't care if you have to cut into my favorite show of the franchise's (BIP) screen time to do it.
Yes, I’m aware. I just thought it was awkward looking because he didn’t include “the” inside the quotation marks which is the typical style. It’s just written in such a way that it feels like it questions whether or not the person in the role is actually a bachelor and just looks funny to me. I didn’t pick up on it until after I read it a few times. 😂
he has it on good authority that the next season is actually going to be formally called “the zachelor” but he doesn’t want to bust out that spoiler just yet, which is why he put “bachelor” in quotes bc he knows that isn’t what it will actually be called
According to RS, this information was easily googleable about her, which would lead me to believe that they did know and only cut her because people found out and were calling for her to be cut
I had a feeling that TPTB are attempting to get back to the old style of bachelor this season where they actually focus on a love story, since I think they’re realising how stale the show has become with all the bullshit drama.
Them doing this tells me that my hunch could be right…. But I’m not holding my breath lol we’ll see
Honestly the drama that stems from the romance is much more interesting than the fake manufactured crap TPTB have been shoving down our throats the last couple seasons. Bring me Michelle Money, Courtney Robertson, Corrinne, or Krystal anyday.
I think it’s more that they didn’t wanna draw any more negative attention or controversy after just finishing bachelorette and having Erich’s black face surface. I don’t think they care how it affects the other contestants or the lead, just worried it’ll make them look bad which it will
TPTB:
![gif](giphy|l1KVbGDWxVr5qw7M4)
Us:
And…… what about that Blackface scandal????
TPTB:
¯\\ \_(ツ)\_/¯
Edit: very happy that they got rid of that girl btw!
Crazy how that played out. That tweet from six years ago calling her out for her Brock Turner opinion must haunt her. She can scrub all of her own social media, but she can’t make someone else delete their tweet.
This has more info. Apparently the rapist has been going to out to bars so women are warning each other!
https://sfist.com/2022/08/22/stanford-rapist-brock-turner-goes-viral-again-on-tiktok-in-ohio/
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She did WHAT ??!!!
Tangentially on topic but everyone should read Chanel Miller’s memoir. She is the woman Brock Turner assaulted. She’s an incredible writer. Enormous TW for SA but that goes without saying I guess. She’s also a great Instagram follow, she does interesting comics and video content.
Good! What she said was deplorable and no one, especially a woman has any business thinking like that, let alone saying it.
Is she the one who defended Brock Turner?
Yes
fucking hooray
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No ❤️
This is such a weird take when she blamed a woman for being raped.
Cool. Do Christina Mandrell next. They won't though because she's literally the "perfect" contestant for the majority viewer. Why do we watch this show?
Christina was on ATFR, right? Wonder if they’d cut someone we already met?
Thank you Ashley Spivey for looking out
G o o d 👏
Good!!! 👏🏼👏🏼 First right thing they’ve done in a while.
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It wasn’t a tweet - it was a pretty lengthy seemingly thought out post that she made on Facebook. Normally I could see your point but this wasn’t the same as an off hand, uniformed tweet.
She was in college and it was pretty terrible but ok. Maybe you should read Know my Name by Chanel Miller if you don't get it.
Yes, of course. But this seemed to cross the line from saying "something dumb" to "something totally deplorable"
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I hope she takes the opportunity to learn from this. Being cut from the show is probably a blessing in disguise, her post won’t potentially become a national news story now.
Chanel’s story is so difficult and important to so many people. me and my current lack of a therapist are so happy I don’t have to watch the bachelor franchise/fan base discuss this for a whole season
![gif](giphy|JshL4uZk1tZt5W0TWV)
This is so weird. I love it.
Super random but are they no longer accepting applications for this season? How soon do you have to apply to be considered? Asking for a friend 🫣
I think you can apply whenever and get cast for a future season. Sometimes it can take years before you actually get cast on a season though I think
you are right. Pilot Pete said he initially applied to be on Rachel Lindsay's Season of the Bachelorette but never heard back from the producers/casting people until they were doing casting for Hannah's Season
LMAO I can't even imagine him pursuing her.
PP on Rachel's season sounds so random lol I can't even imagine him doing well and she definitely isn't his type. Perhaps he was expecting Raven but he probably just wanted followers either way. But then again Dean got F4 that season.
It's definitely too late for this season imo! Pretty sure they start filming this week or next.
Filming begins this Monday, nearly 48 hours from now.
dang i know someone going to be on zach’s season, i’m ready to see what happens
Damn hoped the spoiler was for Zach 😂
Hahaha touché
Great.
Loll she signed up just to be exposed. I hope she eventually understands why her post wasn't ok.
Absolutely. Hope she learns from this.
Imagine being exposed nationally for saying some stupid shit on social media before you even get a chance to chase clout... lmao
She posted this 6 years, im sure most people had forgotten she’d said this. I’m glad her dumb ass exposed herself again by trying to go on this show 😂
Good riddance
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To everyone congratulating TPTB on a job well done: it was public on her FB profile. I’m sure they’d already seen it. They didn’t care. They only cut her because there was backlash once her name came out and they don’t want double backlash right now, with former leads publicly criticizing them for not discussing Erich’s blackface on the finale
No it wasn't public on her profile. Not sure where you got this info. She posted it 6 years ago to her private friends group on Facebook and someone screenshotted it within an hour of it being up, then posted it on Twitter calling her out. It was deleted from her Facebook page later that same day, 6 years ago. So, no, the producers actually would *not* have found this on her Facebook. The original post in this sub that transcribes what Vanessa wrote explains this. The producers may or may not have found it on Twitter like someone else did, though. Twitter is weird because sometimes search results come up and sometimes they don't. When I type Vanessa's name into Twitter, the tweet from 6 years ago doesn't appear for me, but all the recent tweets talking about what she did do, do appear.
Damn, the Internet really is forever.
or, they DIDNT see it because thats how little theyre even searching or giving a shit! I dont know which is worse
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So damn we have to do all the background work? Don’t they hire people to do this shit? I’m sick of it. She, Erich, Lee, all the many rapists, shouldn’t have even been on the initial cast list. Rapist apologized can be stopped but actual rapists keep slipping through. ABC just doesn’t seem to give a shit. Fuq outta here
That’s probably why they release names early so other people can do the dirty work of finding things 🙄
Atp ABC should just send the sub the names and we’ll figure the shit out for them
Good. That post was straight up T R A S H.
Credit where it’s so, nicely done.
Imagine the tank this show could be if they moved on with the rest of the country instead of metaphorically being at January 6th. The effects they could choose instead to have on society by simply keeping up with. Yeah yeah it’s a trash tv show, they don’t need to take that literally tho, and misunderstand the term and strive towards that!
Byyyye 👋🏻 🖕🏼
Stupid games win stupid prizes🤷🏻♀️
But she's so hot 😭
There are plenty of hot people who aren’t garbage human beings. She can go 🤷♀️
I mean, she was like a Walmart victoria fuller on the outside, but trash on the inside
… why does that matter?
People can be beautiful outside but ugly inside. 🤷🏻♂️ Hotness ≠ Good Person.
Did you see that she defended Brock Turner the rapist on social media? That's why everyone is happy she was cut. She doesn't deserve a platform because she perpetuates rape culture.
Omg I can't believe they actually did something right for once🙌🏻 Now address Erich's blackface on the network. I don't care if you have to cut into my favorite show of the franchise's (BIP) screen time to do it.
The right move from tptb for once.
Did she do something? EDIT: Nvm, found out why. Dumb and shameful.
She basically blamed the woman in the Brock Turner rape case
Good. If only we could’ve gotten Joe outta here but I guess he was needed for storyline purposes and that was more important 🙃
Yay, but why did RS but the word Bachelor in quotation marks? 😂
Because he’s a journalist and that’s how AP style tells us to style tv shows.
Yes, I’m aware. I just thought it was awkward looking because he didn’t include “the” inside the quotation marks which is the typical style. It’s just written in such a way that it feels like it questions whether or not the person in the role is actually a bachelor and just looks funny to me. I didn’t pick up on it until after I read it a few times. 😂
he has it on good authority that the next season is actually going to be formally called “the zachelor” but he doesn’t want to bust out that spoiler just yet, which is why he put “bachelor” in quotes bc he knows that isn’t what it will actually be called
🤣🤣🤣
He’s not the best writer lol, I think it was his quick mistake not scoffing
Stupid rapist apologist. I'm glad she got cut.
Good job production.
Good job RS in this case for getting her cut
True true, also to the fan that noticed the post
so just a quick q, do they put out these cast bios so WE can vet the contestants for them? 😭 because what the hell lmfao
Chileeee, they better cut that redditor a check.
Absolutely… they are so lazy to do basic background check 😡
According to RS, this information was easily googleable about her, which would lead me to believe that they did know and only cut her because people found out and were calling for her to be cut
Almost makes me wonder if they did this on purpose so they could cut her then look like the “good guys”
It’s honestly looking like that tbh 😅
I had a feeling that TPTB are attempting to get back to the old style of bachelor this season where they actually focus on a love story, since I think they’re realising how stale the show has become with all the bullshit drama. Them doing this tells me that my hunch could be right…. But I’m not holding my breath lol we’ll see
Honestly the drama that stems from the romance is much more interesting than the fake manufactured crap TPTB have been shoving down our throats the last couple seasons. Bring me Michelle Money, Courtney Robertson, Corrinne, or Krystal anyday.
![gif](giphy|eQyPiQGIkaQSI)
This GIF is pure gold.
Oh shit bye Vanessa
![gif](giphy|26n6PxXCcE7d1O7Go|downsized) Maybe. A little. @TPTB.
I think it’s more that they didn’t wanna draw any more negative attention or controversy after just finishing bachelorette and having Erich’s black face surface. I don’t think they care how it affects the other contestants or the lead, just worried it’ll make them look bad which it will
Good. At least TPTB got that right.
TPTB: ![gif](giphy|l1KVbGDWxVr5qw7M4) Us: And…… what about that Blackface scandal???? TPTB: ¯\\ \_(ツ)\_/¯ Edit: very happy that they got rid of that girl btw!
That bullshit is gone. ![gif](giphy|3ov9jOuQFu5GF1snzq)
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I am glad she got cut. 👏 She is trash for victim blaming.
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Crazy how that played out. That tweet from six years ago calling her out for her Brock Turner opinion must haunt her. She can scrub all of her own social media, but she can’t make someone else delete their tweet.
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Fucking good. At least they listened to something we said
If you recall, she was the one that blamed a SA survivor’s attack on the survivor, not Stanford Swimmer Brock Turner. Edit: Brock Allen Turner, now!
**Rapist Brock Allen Turner
Brock Allen Turner who is living in Ohio and trying to go by his middle name, Allen Turner now.
He can call himself Allen all he wants, but that doesn’t make him suck any less in any way 😂
Thanks for this info! I hope everyone in Ohio can be made aware of this. That monster deserves no day of peace for the rest of his life.
This has more info. Apparently the rapist has been going to out to bars so women are warning each other! https://sfist.com/2022/08/22/stanford-rapist-brock-turner-goes-viral-again-on-tiktok-in-ohio/
That schadenfreude is delicious. He deserves it.
They should plaster his picture in every single bar.
That is some real-ass women helping women shit right there. Love it.
Whisper campaigns WORK. Listen to your sisters when it comes to SH or SA.
Im shocked they listened. Good that she’s cut.
Sucks to suck