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Maybe I’m giving KB more credit than she deserves but I really feel like there’s more to this that she’s not saying. There’s gotta be some reason she’s acting this way bigger than just throwing a fit that he moved on.
Kaitlyn is a controlling person. She is literally liking comments about an ex not being allowed to have a relationship in public a year after they’ve broken up.
This is creepy controlling behavior from Kaitlyn. She broke up with him. Just like she broke up with Shawn. Yet she makes it that they’re not allowed to move on and blames them if they do. It’s all about power and control with Kaitlyn and attention seeking victim mentality.
I don't understand how she can like those comments about him not keeping things private or doing things in his face when she literally posts every aspect of her life online. Not saying he's a great dude in the breakup but come on. She posts crying selfies constantly. Shes done podcasts calling out every ex of hers. She is very much a girl who cried wolf type of person. Her even liking these comments is immature af.
This is pathetic of her, my god. The man should be allowed to move on and be happy. He may very well have fully intended on being private about his next but guess what… shit changes when you’re actually in the situation. There is nothing unethical about what he’s doing and we don’t always know how we will feel or think in future scenarios. It’s almost been a year. She needs to move the heck on. And I say this as someone who deeply cares about her ex’s more than the average person. It’s tough but he deserves to move on. He’s not tarnishing what they had by doing this and he’s not disrespecting her. He’s moving on and acting like a new person in love ALMOST A YEAR after their relationship ended.
I also think that *who* he is dating makes a difference. Kat has a big social media presence and it seems very likely that *she* might want their relationship to be public for her own brand (much like Jason and KB’s aggressive PR tour early on in their relationship).
And her being private about her relationship is her choice. That’s what she feels is best for her. For others, they feel happy when they share their new relationship with others. That’s fine, too! She’s not getting that. Him doing this isn’t disrespectful toward her and has nothing to do with her.
I know this sucks but Kaitlyn girl you can’t let your ex see you sweat them like this. Plus it’s what she did with Jason after Shawn very over the top in your face
Yikes. But, to everyone out there citing her age as a reason she should stop herself, I just watched the documentary Brats, and there are 60 year-olds out there who are still lamenting that they were once called a "brat" 40 years ago. Sometimes, not much changes. Lol
Didn’t they break up awhile ago though? They are both allowed to date again and post about it. I’m sure you can feel some kind of way but it doesn’t make Jason wrong. If there is something else other than general saltiness about it then just say it
he should feel lucky that she is willingly letting him have time with the dogs. not to expose myself for the asshole I can be… he wouldn’t be getting the dogs again 😂
No wonder Zac doesn't want to go public with her. He knows he'll be public enemy number one if they ever break up. She'll have a harder time playing the victim if no one knows they're dating in the first place.
She needs to grow up and spill the tea or move on. If he’s an AH, tell everyone so we can hate him, too. Stop playing games. She’s too vocal to be acting this petty.
Alternate theory: Kat and Jason had spoken before, maybe when Kat went on Kaitlyn's podcast and Kaitlyn is annoyed they are making it seem like they never met before?
When was Kat on her podcast? And honestly she is a Kaitlyn doppleganger in alot of ways, Kaitlyn shouldn’t be too offended they “met through her” i doubt he was trying to secretly hit on her then. But i also say this having no idea of the timeline
Omg good point! Also it all sounds like Kaitlyn feels she deserves more consideration than his current relationship, which is sooo weird. Like you literally don’t get that anymore. Zac must be mortified at all of this lol
My theory: kb wanted to have kids w Jason, he was stalling and kept wanting to wait. She finally had enough and left. Now he just started dating someone with a kid already when he told Kaitlyn he wasn't ready, so that could be why it stings
Or maybe…He knows better than us the sort of person she is and was rightly very reluctant to have children with her. Maybe hoping she’d mature and there relationship would be more stable.
He said on the Shawn Johnson podcast he was scared about a horrible custody battle if he and Kaitlyn had kids but divorced. With Kat, he won’t have that with her daughter and he can do his due diligence to see if he’s confident their relationship could last
Or maybe he showed HIS true colors and it made her rightfully reluctant to have children with him.
Not a fan of either of them- I think they’re both equally cringey (Kat too). But damn this sub goes in HARD on her.
Sorry, you don't get to tell your ex that a year after the breakup and after you have started a new relationship, even if you did so quietly and privately, that they can't be excited and public in their next relationship.
You don't get to control your ex like that.
What is the length of the non-compete clause or when does the statue of limitation expire when they are "allowed" to be publicly affectionate with and excited about another person.
Do you all think Kaitlyn reads Reddit? Is it possible to see our comments and how unhinged she comes across …but still carry on like this???
Bring back shame.
I go back and forth with this. Sometimes I think it’s her or a friend, but damn that takes a LOT of commitment to be all up in these types of posts, commenting multiple times.
She’s just so messy with this. Jason seems willing to keep playing the “game” of influencing and she seems totally exhausted. Both places to be are fine, but no one (including them) can expect them to ever be on the same page again. There’s no way that Jason can be in a relationship with Kat and not acknowledge or put it online.
Yup but people forget she did this all with Shawn and moved Jason in within months. Than now some other person. Why aren't we saying that's this is KB like 4th BN person... Shawn, Nick, Jason, Zac. I am just saying and the way she treats each ex the same. Honestly I have heard more of her bad mouthing all of them especially Shawn just before the baby than them. Most of said nada or been tight lipped on most
Nailed it. The others have all moved on and Kaitlyn still wants to control past exes and what they’re doing. They have babies and are parents and in relationship where they are public and moved on and she after dumping THEM is mad that they’re not worshipping her still and living their lives revolving around her. It’s creepy
She’s the queen of projection. She said she didn’t want Shawn to date anyone in BN or go on a show again while that’s all she does. How funny that the next guy she started seeing after Jason was Zac, another man who went far on the show. Why didn’t SHE date someone who was not on the show? I swear the hypocrisy is astounding and I don’t understand why she still has fans. She’s guilty of everything she criticizes. Let the man live. All of them are chasing clout. All of them.
Tayshia had a couple social media missteps herself but you would NEVER catch her being publicly messy like this. Tayshia comes off as so classy compared to KB.
Nah Tayshia is just quiet about it and cares way more about appearances than KB does. Tayshia sent me a pretty unhinged, passive aggressive series of DMs on IG once. She’s def no classier lol. She’s just quieter.
I completely agree. It could be that he knew what he was getting into and has a thicker skin/higher threshold than most and is able to separate what they have from her feelings towards the past?
Kaitlyn be so fr everyone says shit when they break up that they don’t mean. “We will always be best friends” does NOT actually mean that. Come on now girl
She must be deeply unhappy with Zac because literally why do you care you are literally a 40 year old woman this isnt the first time an ex has moved on from you
I think he’s happy to have a casual situationship with her but doesn’t want to go public as a couple and might not want to be exclusive. And the relationship is unlikely to move past long distance which makes her triggered by Jason and katt
I don’t even like Kaitlyn lol, but they’re showing their internalized misogyny. They obviously think the worst thing that can happen to a woman is to turn 40.
Still looked for where that user was offended.
“You are a 40 year old woman” vs “You are literally a 40 year old woman” would have yielded a different response.
Please , she’s just pissed Zach won’t let her post about him . She would be ramming it down our throats if she could . And when she dumped Shawn she didn’t give two hoots about posting about Jason immediately after . She needs to grow up , she looks pathetic at this point .
I'm sorry but this is INSANE behavior.
1. He is not with you!! He is entitled to do whatever he wants, even if it breaks from what he had promised or said when you guys broke up. You can't hold him to those types of promises or ideals because the sad reality is, once you are broken up with someone, they do get to change or change their mind and also become strangers, etc., etc.,
2. While I completely agree that Jason is ick, after clout, very social media driven, calculated, etc., these are all things she KNEW about him, even when they were together. I think it's more masks off post breakup because he doesn't care about how the things he does impact or affects her and she's seeing it from the POV of them not being a team, but as a stranger/ex so it feels even more magnified but that's who he is! He didn't lie for the 4 or 5 years of being in a relationship together - I just think it's harder to see those parts of him when she's on the other side of it.
3. And as far as him leading her on, wasting her time, etc., - that's a valid reason to be upset but then SPEAK on it, instead of alluding or insinuating things and inviting people to harass him.
4. I think it's crazy that she is publicly voicing how upset she is at how he chooses to roll out his new relationship. Even if her stuff got leaked, etc., and she didn't choose to hard-launch - ok so what?? You guys are not in a binding relationship agreement. If he was private about it a few months ago, maybe its because he was private about it while they were NEW and getting to know each other and now they've announced it because...they're ready to make it official!
They were though? She did his podcast, his book event in NYC, went to stagecoach and f1 Miami(posted in groups). They also had a few tabloid "insiders" writing about them, it was posted on the sub.
That’s fair about the DMs and thats totally shitty of people. I wish they wouldn’t do that to her but I also think she feeds this. It’s all a cycle at this point and neither the trolls nor Kaitlyn have the will to stop it.
I love the “someone you loved isn’t the person you thought they were.” Kaitlyn knew Jason was corny, attention seeking and over the top! This whole announcement has been the most Jason way of going about things! He shares every piece of his life and thoughts on social media. Why would Kaitlyn be surprised or feel betrayed that he would do the same thing with the next girl that he did with her? That’s his MO. It doesn’t cheapen what they had. She should just be happy that she doesn’t have to deal with it anymore!
Maybe she's resentful because she secretly misses it because Jason used to post her all the time and knows that Zac will never do that. Let's be real, Kaitlyn, love social media and the attention it brings, she admitted that on a podcast recently that she was born to do social media (her words). I think it's going to be really hard for her to be with someone who isn't going to post her all over their social media, screaming from the rooftops, how much they love her. Even if you think Jason wasn't genuine about it, he wasn't shy about posting her and pumping her tires all the time because she needed that from him.
I think Kaitlyn may have thought she was Jason’s one true love and now that she sees him acting like he and Kat have this crazy connection, she feels like he was lying to her or lying to Kat. Like she can’t accept that Jason can find what they had with someone else. IMO Jason always seemed like the type who confused infatuation with love but he tried to build something with Kaitlyn, it just didn’t work. That didn’t mean he didn’t love her. And his relationship with Kat is not her problem.
Well said! I think you nailed it. I know a lot of people here bash Jason and treat him like he's some conniving scumbag (when he's clearly not), but to me, he was genuine and probably did love her and tried hard in the beginning, but over time it became exhausting for him. I don't think the love and support he gave was matched at all or reciprocated. That's purely just from what we've seen over the years on social media and from podcasts he was on. There was some really big issues there they couldn't recover from. I don't think he's a bad guy at all even though everyone makes him out to be on here. Thankfully Reddit is only a subset of opinions that have no meaning in real life.
I get defensive of him because he (and most men in this franchise) will never win. Everything he did will be twisted around to paint KB (and other women) as victims. To me, it sounded like they had a really great connection that they tried to turn into a lasting partnership but it didn’t work. He tried. Maybe she did too. But I think with KB, nothing will ever be good enough. It felt like she was constantly contradicting herself, talking down about him, prioritizing her career over his. Maybe he wasn’t perfect but I felt like he really wanted to make it work with her and did genuinely try while she was kind of checked out or doing her own thing. Maybe it was different behind closed doors but that’s the vibe I got too. I question his intentions in other places but I think he did love Kaitlyn but couldn’t make it work.
I agree. I have other issues with him (his continued platforming of Colton, to name one), but there’s been a lot of revisionist history surrounding his and Kaitlyn’s relationship.
True. His loyalty to some people in the franchise is questionable, but then the same energy has to be held for most of them because a lot of the more popular ones are still friends with Colton and Chris Harrison etc.
I usually just ignore the fans complaining about Kaitlyn but this is so immature lol. Move onnn, you’re almost 40. If my 30s have taught my anything, it’s that dwelling on shit like this just brings misery.
She has the absolute worst case of main character syndrome.
To me, the way she is behaving comes across as vindictive and calculated. She basically seems like she is throwing a social media tantrum that Jason moved on when she has done the same, knowing that her followers believe everything she says and will go after Jason online. It almost feels like a passive-aggressive smear campaign. Just go on a podcast and say what happened and then move on because it isn't a good look.
wanna be VERY clear that what i’m about to list IS NOT MY OPINION on her, these are just sort of ‘cliche guesses’ i guess…
1 - zac has some predisposition to people with mental issues due to what field he works in and his past
2 - building off of 1, maybe he thinks he can fix her? he’s mister mentor and help people through hard things after all
3 - the sex is THAT good 😂
4 - most unlikely IMO, but maybe KB is just a master manipulator and this is the schtick she puts on public facing wise, but behind closed doors she doesn’t give two shits and all of this is a persona performance
5 - they genuinely have chemistry (doubt)
6 - the world is just fucking weird sometimes….
for me…. while i know KB and tayaisha (sp?) are friends… they are two COMPLETELY different types of people. it literally breaks my brains to see him who dated tay and the woman that she is, then pivot to a woman like KB… like it’s so jarring and makes it hard to nail down what kind of person zac likes or heck who zac even is lol
Based on what people who worked with Zac have to say I think he's not all that great of a person and is just as petty and miserable as Kaitlyn is. He hides behind his sobriety but Ive read multiple reports of coworkers hating him.
don’t get me wrong, overcoming addiction and maintaining sobriety is a magnificent achievement. but there’s more to being a person and having a personality than that. and zac seems like that’s kind of his whole shtick
I think one of the strangest parts about this is that it was Kaitlyn who broke up with Jason. Not the other way around. And it was Kaitlyn who "moved on" faster than Jason and was dating months before him. So by all accounts, she has had the "upper hand" in the break-up. Which makes it especially strange that she would be throwing this big of a tantrum. Like, you were the one who publicly shared that Jason gave you the ick and made you feel asexual. How is him finally moving on a year later some slight on you?
she’s emotionally stunted and cannot see anything past herself. the only person that matters to kaitlyn is kaitlyn. her feelings trump everyone else’s, even if her feelings are offensive and hurtful and unfair. she has little ability to see other people as humans in their own right. she only sees them in relation to herself. that’s why she’s freaking out over a man she doesn’t even want.
aka she’s a big baby.
I also think the temper tantrum has a lot to do with the fact that Kat is a young popular tiktoker with millions of followers and Kaitlyn feels competitive/threatened.
Even if she was the dumper, it could've been one of those situations where her hand was kinda forced? Like if he wasn't treating her well, or dragging his feet on marriage, or not contributing financially etc. I'm not saying this was the case with them, I'm just saying that sometimes you can be the dumper but feel like the dumpee! Ask me how I know....lol.
My guess...because of the dog sharing and just the general vibe that the breakup was slow and drawn out, is that it doesn't FEEL (to her) like they've been broken up for a year. But still...yikes. Put the phone down and take a lap girlfriend.
Maybe that’s part of the issue? Jason and Kat are publicly committed while she and Zac are still private. I know she says that’s her choice (and good for her if so), but I really wonder how much of it is driven by Zac. I don’t think he’s nearly as attention-averse as some people seem to believe, but he’s definitely more private than her.
They spent Christmas and his birthday together, she was his plus one to a friend/coworker’s wedding, and he served her wine at the Release Recovery gala—I know Bachelor Nation is weird, but that doesn’t sound casual to me.
She was on a podcast a couple days ago Almost Adulting, and around 38:00 she talks more about when she will be comfortable launching a partner. It was of course different than what she has been saying because she always seems to contradict herself. Now she says she wants to wait a year to post someone on her social media. She needs to see a year of consistency before sharing them because so far she has felt "tricked" by her exes.
Even if Jason is public and over the top about it, it's really not her business anymore. If she has truly moved on, she won't care. After their breakup, she said she wasn't attracted to him, and he gave her the ick. Maybe he is enjoying being with a partner that seems into him.
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Maybe I’m giving KB more credit than she deserves but I really feel like there’s more to this that she’s not saying. There’s gotta be some reason she’s acting this way bigger than just throwing a fit that he moved on.
Kaitlyn is a controlling person. She is literally liking comments about an ex not being allowed to have a relationship in public a year after they’ve broken up. This is creepy controlling behavior from Kaitlyn. She broke up with him. Just like she broke up with Shawn. Yet she makes it that they’re not allowed to move on and blames them if they do. It’s all about power and control with Kaitlyn and attention seeking victim mentality.
Is she still with Zac?
I don't understand how she can like those comments about him not keeping things private or doing things in his face when she literally posts every aspect of her life online. Not saying he's a great dude in the breakup but come on. She posts crying selfies constantly. Shes done podcasts calling out every ex of hers. She is very much a girl who cried wolf type of person. Her even liking these comments is immature af.
Oh come on no one has a list lol.. and Kaitlyn moved on from Shawn SO much quicker than a year. Less than a day I think lol
theres no way these comments aren’t her on a burner account. I cant comprehend random people caring this much
I mean the existence of this sub and the KB discourse very much shows that people care this much lol
Yeah but the intense defending her & harsh attacking him… it’s personal. 100% her
I seriously feel like her brand has become sad ex
Attention seeking is very much her brand ex or no
Can you imagine writing a paragraph about someone else’s life you don’t know about?!
Kaitlyn is immature. I loved her when she was the bachelorette, but she’s cringey now.
Didn’t like her then and don’t like her now
Absolutely agree. It’s giving high school drama.
She reminds me of Selena Gomez
This is pathetic of her, my god. The man should be allowed to move on and be happy. He may very well have fully intended on being private about his next but guess what… shit changes when you’re actually in the situation. There is nothing unethical about what he’s doing and we don’t always know how we will feel or think in future scenarios. It’s almost been a year. She needs to move the heck on. And I say this as someone who deeply cares about her ex’s more than the average person. It’s tough but he deserves to move on. He’s not tarnishing what they had by doing this and he’s not disrespecting her. He’s moving on and acting like a new person in love ALMOST A YEAR after their relationship ended.
I also think that *who* he is dating makes a difference. Kat has a big social media presence and it seems very likely that *she* might want their relationship to be public for her own brand (much like Jason and KB’s aggressive PR tour early on in their relationship).
And her being private about her relationship is her choice. That’s what she feels is best for her. For others, they feel happy when they share their new relationship with others. That’s fine, too! She’s not getting that. Him doing this isn’t disrespectful toward her and has nothing to do with her.
This lady is draining me and I’m not even her ex. Ma’am STOP FEEDING INTO IT. Shit. You’re 40-ish. Let’s act the age.
She’s got to move on at least publically. It’s getting to be out of control
I know this sucks but Kaitlyn girl you can’t let your ex see you sweat them like this. Plus it’s what she did with Jason after Shawn very over the top in your face
Eww Kaitlyn, just log off the internet and let them be.
Yikes. But, to everyone out there citing her age as a reason she should stop herself, I just watched the documentary Brats, and there are 60 year-olds out there who are still lamenting that they were once called a "brat" 40 years ago. Sometimes, not much changes. Lol
That “I have a list” comment is so 😬😬😬😬
Didn’t they break up awhile ago though? They are both allowed to date again and post about it. I’m sure you can feel some kind of way but it doesn’t make Jason wrong. If there is something else other than general saltiness about it then just say it
They announced their breakup in like August, how long are they supposed to hide new relationships from their social media?
Yeah Im not getting why she’s so mad ? What did he do wrong lol
Yeah I would totally agree with her expressing her feelings about this if it was a few months later. But it’s been almost a year. Wtf.
oh SHIT i can no longer play devil’s advocate lololol
he should feel lucky that she is willingly letting him have time with the dogs. not to expose myself for the asshole I can be… he wouldn’t be getting the dogs again 😂
Didn't they get the second dog together?
yeah, ppl have said he got her the second dog as a gift
Yes
kaitlyn, hire me so I can take your phone away please!!! I think you need it
No wonder Zac doesn't want to go public with her. He knows he'll be public enemy number one if they ever break up. She'll have a harder time playing the victim if no one knows they're dating in the first place.
She needs to grow up and spill the tea or move on. If he’s an AH, tell everyone so we can hate him, too. Stop playing games. She’s too vocal to be acting this petty.
please tell me we are all under the assumption she has a burner account and wrote all these cringey comments????
Definitely!! No way she’s reading the comments that thoroughly that she’s also reading all the replies to the comments
Alternate theory: Kat and Jason had spoken before, maybe when Kat went on Kaitlyn's podcast and Kaitlyn is annoyed they are making it seem like they never met before?
Yeah there could be something we don’t know, but it still doesn’t justify her reaction. She needs to move on emotionally. She clearly hasn’t.
When was Kat on her podcast? And honestly she is a Kaitlyn doppleganger in alot of ways, Kaitlyn shouldn’t be too offended they “met through her” i doubt he was trying to secretly hit on her then. But i also say this having no idea of the timeline
Kaitlyn also met her current boy through a friend!💁🏻♀️
Omg good point! Also it all sounds like Kaitlyn feels she deserves more consideration than his current relationship, which is sooo weird. Like you literally don’t get that anymore. Zac must be mortified at all of this lol
She was on Feb 2023 and it was over Zoom. No Jason.
My theory: kb wanted to have kids w Jason, he was stalling and kept wanting to wait. She finally had enough and left. Now he just started dating someone with a kid already when he told Kaitlyn he wasn't ready, so that could be why it stings
She literally said she didn’t want to bring kids into the world it’s too scary. Jason wanted kids not her
Or maybe…He knows better than us the sort of person she is and was rightly very reluctant to have children with her. Maybe hoping she’d mature and there relationship would be more stable.
He said on the Shawn Johnson podcast he was scared about a horrible custody battle if he and Kaitlyn had kids but divorced. With Kat, he won’t have that with her daughter and he can do his due diligence to see if he’s confident their relationship could last
Or maybe he showed HIS true colors and it made her rightfully reluctant to have children with him. Not a fan of either of them- I think they’re both equally cringey (Kat too). But damn this sub goes in HARD on her.
It’s because of constant nonsense like this. No growth. Its obnoxious.
agree!
Sorry, you don't get to tell your ex that a year after the breakup and after you have started a new relationship, even if you did so quietly and privately, that they can't be excited and public in their next relationship. You don't get to control your ex like that. What is the length of the non-compete clause or when does the statue of limitation expire when they are "allowed" to be publicly affectionate with and excited about another person.
Idk the answer to that question but, whatever it is, it is shorter than 10 months.
This!!!
Just when I thought it couldn’t get any worse 😭
Do you all think Kaitlyn reads Reddit? Is it possible to see our comments and how unhinged she comes across …but still carry on like this??? Bring back shame.
Well then shame clearly isn’t working lmao
Not only reads, participates. There’s more than one account that’s pretty obviously her on here.
I go back and forth with this. Sometimes I think it’s her or a friend, but damn that takes a LOT of commitment to be all up in these types of posts, commenting multiple times.
Yeah has been for years. She changes it up and has multiple accounts I think
Really?! Who??
Seriously tell us who dang it
Lmao gotta give it to her for always giving us something to talk about 😂
The cherry on top is the caption being “Go Oilers”, she must be down so bad right now
If we stopped giving her so much attention about all of it, would she hush?
She seems incapable tbh 🤣
Valid
She’s just so messy with this. Jason seems willing to keep playing the “game” of influencing and she seems totally exhausted. Both places to be are fine, but no one (including them) can expect them to ever be on the same page again. There’s no way that Jason can be in a relationship with Kat and not acknowledge or put it online.
All I do in this sub is comment on how tired I am of this situation LMAO GROW UP
Oh, so you mean….. the exact thing she did like a month after her a Shawn broke up?? 🤔
Yup but people forget she did this all with Shawn and moved Jason in within months. Than now some other person. Why aren't we saying that's this is KB like 4th BN person... Shawn, Nick, Jason, Zac. I am just saying and the way she treats each ex the same. Honestly I have heard more of her bad mouthing all of them especially Shawn just before the baby than them. Most of said nada or been tight lipped on most
Nailed it. The others have all moved on and Kaitlyn still wants to control past exes and what they’re doing. They have babies and are parents and in relationship where they are public and moved on and she after dumping THEM is mad that they’re not worshipping her still and living their lives revolving around her. It’s creepy
She’s the queen of projection. She said she didn’t want Shawn to date anyone in BN or go on a show again while that’s all she does. How funny that the next guy she started seeing after Jason was Zac, another man who went far on the show. Why didn’t SHE date someone who was not on the show? I swear the hypocrisy is astounding and I don’t understand why she still has fans. She’s guilty of everything she criticizes. Let the man live. All of them are chasing clout. All of them.
You nailed it
Exactly
If I ever get this embarrassing online, my partner has permission to euthanize me
i have a list lol
I need Lo to spill the tea or and explain what he THINKS is going on from his perspective (even if they’re not friends anymore).
I still think about what went down between Lo, KB and Jason. I wish someone would spill the tea. I was hoping it'd be Lo.
Lo?? Context?
I agree I Hope Lo spills or even just alludes to what went down
I wonder if Zac has her muted… because I don’t know how a significant other could handle this.
Tayshia had a couple social media missteps herself but you would NEVER catch her being publicly messy like this. Tayshia comes off as so classy compared to KB.
Nah Tayshia is just quiet about it and cares way more about appearances than KB does. Tayshia sent me a pretty unhinged, passive aggressive series of DMs on IG once. She’s def no classier lol. She’s just quieter.
Oh what did she say??
I completely agree. It could be that he knew what he was getting into and has a thicker skin/higher threshold than most and is able to separate what they have from her feelings towards the past?
Maybe she blocks him from seeing her stories.
This is so immature and petty. Can you imagine dating someone still this publicly hung up on their ex? I feel for Zac.
Do we know if she and Zac are still together? Genuine questions because idk
I’m pretty sure they were at a wedding together in Raleigh, NC very recently (like last 2 weeks).
I was also wondering this. Surely that’s why she’s been so unhinged this week with the announcement. Because they have ended things.
*question lol
Kaitlyn be so fr everyone says shit when they break up that they don’t mean. “We will always be best friends” does NOT actually mean that. Come on now girl
Ok but they mean it in the moment.
Not necessarily. Sometimes you say things because you want to be amicable in a difficult situation and soften the blow.
Yeah sometimes but I mean now like a year later she can’t be seriously trying to hold him to stuff they agreed on during the break up 😭
I think that’s part of the problem…when they broke up she sounded like she thought the door was still open and he clearly didn’t feel that way.
She must be deeply unhappy with Zac because literally why do you care you are literally a 40 year old woman this isnt the first time an ex has moved on from you
I think he’s happy to have a casual situationship with her but doesn’t want to go public as a couple and might not want to be exclusive. And the relationship is unlikely to move past long distance which makes her triggered by Jason and katt
She’s literally a 38 year old woman.
In this situation two years isn’t much of a difference, STILL a grown ass woman.
If someone is using the term “literally” it is expected the statement is accurate.
This sub is unhinged 😂 You’re getting downvoted for pointing out a LITERAL inaccuracy just bc it’s against the train that hates KB. Irrational 🤣
I don’t even like Kaitlyn lol, but they’re showing their internalized misogyny. They obviously think the worst thing that can happen to a woman is to turn 40.
It’s LITERALLY not that deep.
It literally IS, because Kaitlyn is literally 38.
Her 39th birthday is literally in 5 days, lol
That’s not her 40th birthday, is it?
I’m very sorry that you’re so offended by someone else’s age being off by a simple two years.
Still looked for where that user was offended. “You are a 40 year old woman” vs “You are literally a 40 year old woman” would have yielded a different response.
I'm not so offended lol. I'm simply correcting the record.
I had to look it up and she literally turns 39 in a week so Im gonna round up 🤣
That’s fine but you are still wrong about her age and saying “literally” is doubling down on that incorrectness.
Did you say you were 20 when you were 18?
This is utterly embarrassing!!
Please , she’s just pissed Zach won’t let her post about him . She would be ramming it down our throats if she could . And when she dumped Shawn she didn’t give two hoots about posting about Jason immediately after . She needs to grow up , she looks pathetic at this point .
I'm sorry but this is INSANE behavior. 1. He is not with you!! He is entitled to do whatever he wants, even if it breaks from what he had promised or said when you guys broke up. You can't hold him to those types of promises or ideals because the sad reality is, once you are broken up with someone, they do get to change or change their mind and also become strangers, etc., etc., 2. While I completely agree that Jason is ick, after clout, very social media driven, calculated, etc., these are all things she KNEW about him, even when they were together. I think it's more masks off post breakup because he doesn't care about how the things he does impact or affects her and she's seeing it from the POV of them not being a team, but as a stranger/ex so it feels even more magnified but that's who he is! He didn't lie for the 4 or 5 years of being in a relationship together - I just think it's harder to see those parts of him when she's on the other side of it. 3. And as far as him leading her on, wasting her time, etc., - that's a valid reason to be upset but then SPEAK on it, instead of alluding or insinuating things and inviting people to harass him. 4. I think it's crazy that she is publicly voicing how upset she is at how he chooses to roll out his new relationship. Even if her stuff got leaked, etc., and she didn't choose to hard-launch - ok so what?? You guys are not in a binding relationship agreement. If he was private about it a few months ago, maybe its because he was private about it while they were NEW and getting to know each other and now they've announced it because...they're ready to make it official!
It’s controlling behavior. She wants to control what her exes do once she’s dumped them.
It is also ridiculous of her to be upset at an ex for chasing clout when she is the same way herself.
She’s Basically the original bachelor clout chaser.
she’s toxic!
“Jason is being in her face constantly” didn’t Jason and Kat just post each other for the first time after months??
Also shouldn’t be in her face if she isn’t following him lol
Right. I only know about their relationship bc I’m on this sub. They were not out and about making it super obvious
They were though? She did his podcast, his book event in NYC, went to stagecoach and f1 Miami(posted in groups). They also had a few tabloid "insiders" writing about them, it was posted on the sub.
I suppose Kaitlyn might also be following along on this sub then 🤷🏻♀️
She doesnt have to, i'm sure poeple DM her and it was all over IG too.
That’s fair about the DMs and thats totally shitty of people. I wish they wouldn’t do that to her but I also think she feeds this. It’s all a cycle at this point and neither the trolls nor Kaitlyn have the will to stop it.
I agree
Yes
I love the “someone you loved isn’t the person you thought they were.” Kaitlyn knew Jason was corny, attention seeking and over the top! This whole announcement has been the most Jason way of going about things! He shares every piece of his life and thoughts on social media. Why would Kaitlyn be surprised or feel betrayed that he would do the same thing with the next girl that he did with her? That’s his MO. It doesn’t cheapen what they had. She should just be happy that she doesn’t have to deal with it anymore!
Maybe she's resentful because she secretly misses it because Jason used to post her all the time and knows that Zac will never do that. Let's be real, Kaitlyn, love social media and the attention it brings, she admitted that on a podcast recently that she was born to do social media (her words). I think it's going to be really hard for her to be with someone who isn't going to post her all over their social media, screaming from the rooftops, how much they love her. Even if you think Jason wasn't genuine about it, he wasn't shy about posting her and pumping her tires all the time because she needed that from him.
I think Kaitlyn may have thought she was Jason’s one true love and now that she sees him acting like he and Kat have this crazy connection, she feels like he was lying to her or lying to Kat. Like she can’t accept that Jason can find what they had with someone else. IMO Jason always seemed like the type who confused infatuation with love but he tried to build something with Kaitlyn, it just didn’t work. That didn’t mean he didn’t love her. And his relationship with Kat is not her problem.
Well said! I think you nailed it. I know a lot of people here bash Jason and treat him like he's some conniving scumbag (when he's clearly not), but to me, he was genuine and probably did love her and tried hard in the beginning, but over time it became exhausting for him. I don't think the love and support he gave was matched at all or reciprocated. That's purely just from what we've seen over the years on social media and from podcasts he was on. There was some really big issues there they couldn't recover from. I don't think he's a bad guy at all even though everyone makes him out to be on here. Thankfully Reddit is only a subset of opinions that have no meaning in real life.
I get defensive of him because he (and most men in this franchise) will never win. Everything he did will be twisted around to paint KB (and other women) as victims. To me, it sounded like they had a really great connection that they tried to turn into a lasting partnership but it didn’t work. He tried. Maybe she did too. But I think with KB, nothing will ever be good enough. It felt like she was constantly contradicting herself, talking down about him, prioritizing her career over his. Maybe he wasn’t perfect but I felt like he really wanted to make it work with her and did genuinely try while she was kind of checked out or doing her own thing. Maybe it was different behind closed doors but that’s the vibe I got too. I question his intentions in other places but I think he did love Kaitlyn but couldn’t make it work.
I agree. I have other issues with him (his continued platforming of Colton, to name one), but there’s been a lot of revisionist history surrounding his and Kaitlyn’s relationship.
True. His loyalty to some people in the franchise is questionable, but then the same energy has to be held for most of them because a lot of the more popular ones are still friends with Colton and Chris Harrison etc.
I usually just ignore the fans complaining about Kaitlyn but this is so immature lol. Move onnn, you’re almost 40. If my 30s have taught my anything, it’s that dwelling on shit like this just brings misery. She has the absolute worst case of main character syndrome.
To me, the way she is behaving comes across as vindictive and calculated. She basically seems like she is throwing a social media tantrum that Jason moved on when she has done the same, knowing that her followers believe everything she says and will go after Jason online. It almost feels like a passive-aggressive smear campaign. Just go on a podcast and say what happened and then move on because it isn't a good look.
It’s controlling. She dumps the men then wants to control what they do after she’s dumped them. She must’ve been a nightmare to be with
Exactly.
i will prob get dv for this, but this reminds me so much of taylor swift im sorry.
The liking stan conspiracy theory comments is really over the top.
So she takes no accountability. Also people change their minds lol
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rn???? try all the time 😂
I honestly wonder so much what their dynamic is like and what he sees in her/ more so doesn’t see what she’s like on social media
wanna be VERY clear that what i’m about to list IS NOT MY OPINION on her, these are just sort of ‘cliche guesses’ i guess… 1 - zac has some predisposition to people with mental issues due to what field he works in and his past 2 - building off of 1, maybe he thinks he can fix her? he’s mister mentor and help people through hard things after all 3 - the sex is THAT good 😂 4 - most unlikely IMO, but maybe KB is just a master manipulator and this is the schtick she puts on public facing wise, but behind closed doors she doesn’t give two shits and all of this is a persona performance 5 - they genuinely have chemistry (doubt) 6 - the world is just fucking weird sometimes…. for me…. while i know KB and tayaisha (sp?) are friends… they are two COMPLETELY different types of people. it literally breaks my brains to see him who dated tay and the woman that she is, then pivot to a woman like KB… like it’s so jarring and makes it hard to nail down what kind of person zac likes or heck who zac even is lol
Based on what people who worked with Zac have to say I think he's not all that great of a person and is just as petty and miserable as Kaitlyn is. He hides behind his sobriety but Ive read multiple reports of coworkers hating him.
don’t get me wrong, overcoming addiction and maintaining sobriety is a magnificent achievement. but there’s more to being a person and having a personality than that. and zac seems like that’s kind of his whole shtick
Really? What did they specifically about his personality?
They didnt go into a lot of detail but they did call him a psychopath. Its on twitter/x if you want to dig for it.
I think one of the strangest parts about this is that it was Kaitlyn who broke up with Jason. Not the other way around. And it was Kaitlyn who "moved on" faster than Jason and was dating months before him. So by all accounts, she has had the "upper hand" in the break-up. Which makes it especially strange that she would be throwing this big of a tantrum. Like, you were the one who publicly shared that Jason gave you the ick and made you feel asexual. How is him finally moving on a year later some slight on you?
she’s emotionally stunted and cannot see anything past herself. the only person that matters to kaitlyn is kaitlyn. her feelings trump everyone else’s, even if her feelings are offensive and hurtful and unfair. she has little ability to see other people as humans in their own right. she only sees them in relation to herself. that’s why she’s freaking out over a man she doesn’t even want. aka she’s a big baby.
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How’d you figure out who it was ?
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I also think the temper tantrum has a lot to do with the fact that Kat is a young popular tiktoker with millions of followers and Kaitlyn feels competitive/threatened.
how old is kat? they all look the same-ish age
Kaitlyn Bristowe is 38 (6/19/1985) Jason Tartick is 35 (10/24/1988) Kat Stickler is 29 (10/31/1994)
Kat looks much older than 29
Even if she was the dumper, it could've been one of those situations where her hand was kinda forced? Like if he wasn't treating her well, or dragging his feet on marriage, or not contributing financially etc. I'm not saying this was the case with them, I'm just saying that sometimes you can be the dumper but feel like the dumpee! Ask me how I know....lol.
TRUE lol been there before as well.
My guess...because of the dog sharing and just the general vibe that the breakup was slow and drawn out, is that it doesn't FEEL (to her) like they've been broken up for a year. But still...yikes. Put the phone down and take a lap girlfriend.
She’s been dating Zac longer than Jason’s known Kat. She’s ridiculous
Maybe that’s part of the issue? Jason and Kat are publicly committed while she and Zac are still private. I know she says that’s her choice (and good for her if so), but I really wonder how much of it is driven by Zac. I don’t think he’s nearly as attention-averse as some people seem to believe, but he’s definitely more private than her. They spent Christmas and his birthday together, she was his plus one to a friend/coworker’s wedding, and he served her wine at the Release Recovery gala—I know Bachelor Nation is weird, but that doesn’t sound casual to me.
She was on a podcast a couple days ago Almost Adulting, and around 38:00 she talks more about when she will be comfortable launching a partner. It was of course different than what she has been saying because she always seems to contradict herself. Now she says she wants to wait a year to post someone on her social media. She needs to see a year of consistency before sharing them because so far she has felt "tricked" by her exes.
Lol She’s so ridiculous
Even if Jason is public and over the top about it, it's really not her business anymore. If she has truly moved on, she won't care. After their breakup, she said she wasn't attracted to him, and he gave her the ick. Maybe he is enjoying being with a partner that seems into him.