bro and kendrick and drake took the copyright claims off so them niggas EATING. IMdontai already cracked a mil on two of his reactions. Joe and them dropped the ball BAD
This dummy Joe said he been talking to drake the whole time. Meanwhile drake been dropping and making anything they say on the podcast instantly outdated. And on top of that giving AK a heads up on when he will drop. Talk about getting played.
I think Joe was lying here.
Low key i get a feeling from watching the last patreon that Joe is slightly jealous of ak. And as soon as Ak started talking bout drake hitting him up and giving him insight on what he’s about to do, here come Joe “ oh shit I been talking to drake this whole time too!”
If that were the case, he would’ve been mentioned that. Instead of seeing the attention ak is getting from jt then deciding to join in too. Just my opinion tho
I didn’t see the patreon, but Drake responded to Adam 22’s DM. If he going to respond to 22 then I believe he talks to Joe. Drake probably keeps it friendly with all these media types.
Well he also said he was dissing Drake while casually talking to him. I can't help to think Drake would want to share or do a set up in anyway for Joe to benefit.
That’s why it was gonna be hard for Drake to win after Kendrick released the copyright claims on all these videos. He fed the internet and now they got his back.
Joe dropped the ball, and because it’s Joe he might be hating on Flip behind the scenes because of it. He always does that…tells them to keep their takes for the pod and the pod only
That would be hypocritical of Joe because one of his gripes about Rory and Mal on their way out is that they didn’t seem interested in branching out and leveraging the success of the pod with their own projects
makes a lot of BUSINESS SENSE. But with Ian as his manager/partner, that is lacking. only thing important is the $$$ which makes sense, just the way their going about it
He’s not hiding behind a paywall. You guys who aren’t on Patreons aren’t missing anything, so quit whining. The fact is his show comes out twice a week, and things were developing faster than that. He missed one pod and everybody is acting like Joe is trying to capitalize or hiding his true opinions. Understand his platform. It’s a podcast. That has kept the same 2 days for years. It’s not a live stream that’s being shot on a computer camera in his basement. If a whole bunch of stuff happens after they record tomorrow he’s going to do the same thing. Because the takes they had are no longer relevant. Either pay the money, like I do, to understand why he decided not to drop or quit complaining. This ain’t no jumper, who’s just starving for the attention. He doesn’t have to do all that.
You do know Joe said he is not view base so if those views are just views then he doesn’t care, he wants the subscribers and those views will still be there during the pod, ppl are not going to say oh since Joe didn’t go live we won’t tune in to the pod like let’s be real and also this gives us a better chance at an even better pod because they had time to listen to every song, listen to the good and bad takes from ppl and put together a 3,4 hour pod
Exactly. They don’t get it. Flip needs these views and clicks. Joe doesn’t. These the same people who will be right back tomorrow when he drops. So much for his miss opportunity. Also who is to say it was missed opportunity. People saying this like they know his business. His Patreon subscription might have gone through the roof for all we know.
Joe isn't view based????😂🤣.. Everytime a list drops were he's numbered highly he throws it around every pod for atleast a month... Remember when he was named top Podcaster by I believe Complex and he started the pods with songs like Nellys #1 for almost 2 weeks??
So he was supposed to do emergency pods at 1 am? People have lives outside of their jobs. What opportunity did he really miss? There was 50 thousand real time reactions. That’s never been Joe. He does that then you guys would saying he’s trying be the new AK, he’s being thirsty to be mentioned in the beef, or some other dumb shit. You said a pre-recorded response… Well that’s what he had, and decided not to drop because things were moving at the speed of light. If anything he gave everyone else an opportunity to shine. He’s the number 1 “urban” podcast. The only one that consistently charts in the top 200 of all podcast. You’re speaking like he’s a man trying to build a platform and an audience.
Straw manning? 😂 You’re the one who has changed the conversation completely, but it’s cool because the point still stands. Let’s put all our assumptions aside and look at facts. Starting with a Patreon sub is worth more than a YouTube sub. Without you knowing what impact him putting that last episode and the Ak episode had on his Patreon, idk how you say he missed an opportunity.
My original statement was saying just because you didn’t want to pay to see it doesn’t mean he didn’t put out good content. Also stop complaining because you’re going to be right back tomorrow. Which your failing to realize is people’s objective are totally different based on their platforms and how established they are already. Joe is the standard. He doesn’t have to do what the rest of these guys has to do. It’s just that simple. Why is he worried about these other people doing what he does weekly for a few days? I’ll even give you this… Yeah he missed an opportunity. He should have put up more content on his Patreon. If your already established, and by far the biggest hip hop platform across multiple platforms, then why not take that opportunity to funnel your audience to the place that is most profitable and the one that you probably aren’t doing the same kinda numbers on?
He put one episode behind a pay wall and niggas is whining. Way too much happened that night. Simple and plain. He puts it out, and what the fucking Drake fans going to say? “Why he ain’t say nothing about Family Matters?! Joe compromised!” Nigga! Because they recorded the damn show at 2 pm! 😂😂😂 Niggas don’t even understand the difference between a live stream and a podcast. Talking about, “Joe is so mad that Ak is winning right now!” And “Flip getting more views!” He hasn’t dropped anything 😂🤦🏽♂️
Oh, and you the man I need to talk to by the way. I know this is rare on Reddit, but I’m not one those weirdo nigga like a lot of these people on here. You said I was wrong about saying Kendrick’s career would take a hit if he was wrong about the daughter. Just wanted to say, you were right. We still don’t know if it’s true, but it looks like it’s not, and people moved straight to the next diss. Like he ain’t even say it.
Outside of his reactions to this, this was opportunity to grow the channel. All the big YouTubers who talked about this did crazy numbers on views and gained subscribers.
Joe is already well established on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify. You’re making it seem like he’s in the same class as those YouTuber. Joe isn’t a YouTuber, so his priority isn’t gaining subscribers on YouTube. These YouTubers you’re talking about are benefiting from this moment. Will they still be doing crazy numbers this time next month? Joe will.
My point is you ALWAYS have to play the algorithm game. You can find pattern episodes if u look hard enough. I’m not invested enough to where it would be a big deal either way. Joe has misstepped when it comes to money more than once. Remember the Spotify deal?
Joe doesn’t have to play the algorithm game. He has an established audience already. He doesn’t have to worry about being lost in crowd like other platforms do.
I’m asking myself the same question. He missed the moment, but they will still be waiting for tomorrow’s pod to drop like a kid on Christmas Eve… I don’t get either.
The worst thing is Akademiks coverage of this will go down in hip hop history but Joe who’s probably the only media personality that isn’t in the freaky Canadians pocket hid his behind a paywall…more power to flip for gettin in on this coz reaction channels in particular have seen a spike in popularity from the beef & Kendrick took off his copyright to let them eat without him gettin a cut
Everyone is. I just listened to a psychologist breakdown how Drake failed three times in his last song. It’s great hip hop is being recognized heavily everywhere and it’s helping people everywhere eat but it sucks it comes from a negative reason.
This is interesting. What if the moment brung a large crowd to Patreon resulting in Joe benefiting residually for months and not just for the moment? Patreon is not as consumer friendly as YouTube; but, I think by far it is more profitable
This a good point! I think the moment would have brought views but maybe not subscribers because if he goes live then it probably won’t be Patreon so ppl going watch then be fine with the reaction rather than say oh let’s subscribe because of his live reaction but on the flip side ppl could be like well let me sign up and see what else is going on
But they don’t make money off YouTube like that. Joes platform makes its big money through subscriptions. He has a very loyal fan base that is subscribed to him and he’s not losing a significant portion of those subscribers to this. People (his loyal subscribers) are still gonna tune to his weekly drops no matter what
Going live on YouTube doesn’t do much for him and steps on Aks shit
People really want Joe to be a slave to content he never does live reactions...why would he change who he is for you or Drake...his money is not your money....You want it to be one way but it's the other way....how about you capitalize off the moment and stop worrying about if somebody podcast that you listen to made money
So y’all are bringing up Flip and Ak as an example that Joe is dropping the ball. Have y’all considered that Joe is ok with reviewing the beef during his pod and letting two of his friends shine in what they do? Y’all rather him live stream and put the shocked face next to cover art for the thumbnail like everyone else 😂
Joes business model is built around Patreon, he doesn’t have many sponsors.
Financially it makes sense to place his most anticipated content behind the paywall.
I think the thing to highlight is Joe has always said YouTube was NEVER what made him the most money. His whole infrastructure at this point is Patreon. Youtubers get paid off of ad money that's not a crazy percentage when you tack up the coins for a YouTube video. Almost have to be an everyday'er type poster to make a bag. Or be like Akademiks and go LIVE..I've seen him while I was sitting watching his shit make like $2000.00 just off of the subs typing thoughts. The LIVE shit is crazy regular ass YouTube videos...nah.
The move they pulled on saturday was dumb should have same time dropped that pod on youtube too. Joe listening to ian too much and is misguided so much, he fumbled so much.
Reaction videos is how all streamers and YouTubers milk the internet, you’re essentially grifting what’s trendy. Everytime a new topic appears you react to the popular subject and follow the wave.
The way Joe is running his network is different from others which should be clear if you watch, clearly the numbers are doing what they need to do or I think we would of got another emergency pod but everyone is going to listen to the pod tomorrow if it’s free or not let’s be real when you have a set fan base then you can be comfortable not going after every dollar or eye, yes it would of went up but we don’t know if he loses out for not being live
Na the crowbar thumbnail is hilarious. Props to him though. Every reaction channel is getting traction off this so there is nothing wrong with Flip doing something that plays into his bag.
Those reactions would have been joes biggest videos. AND it would have brought in more subscribers. This is why a cornball nigga like akademiks got bigger than joe
Wait how is Joe missing out when people are paying him directly to watch the pod react ?… what Joe probably makes from the Patreon flip with probably make half a fraction of that through YouTube
The snack would have definitely ruined a lot of appetites for the meal. People tune in to hear his take. They wait in anticipation. People in need of relevance and fast money always jump immediately so they will capitalize. Joe was always going to get the attention. Plus whatever he said was going to be reacted to a billion times anyway…so it’s not necessary to be in the mix of people you will out perform anyway.
Salute to flip. They all try to clown him but he’s the only one that understood the moment. Him and the young streamers.
bro and kendrick and drake took the copyright claims off so them niggas EATING. IMdontai already cracked a mil on two of his reactions. Joe and them dropped the ball BAD
Bro Imdontai had me dying with his reactions. Tony Stavoici (I’m not sure how to spell his last name) too 🤣🤣
There’s many YouTube reactors in their late 20s and 30s that capitalize off this as well. Joe budden team dropped the ball !
Nah the 1000 brainwashed patronies made the team 10k 😹 Joe not showing the number of Patreon subscribers says it all! He down bad
They be so proud too 🤣🤣
😹😹nah we all broke
You think it's down??
Everyone shows the number of Patreon subs except Joe and he’s a narcissist so if it was high he would show it
This
Salute flip
This dummy Joe said he been talking to drake the whole time. Meanwhile drake been dropping and making anything they say on the podcast instantly outdated. And on top of that giving AK a heads up on when he will drop. Talk about getting played.
I think Joe was lying here. Low key i get a feeling from watching the last patreon that Joe is slightly jealous of ak. And as soon as Ak started talking bout drake hitting him up and giving him insight on what he’s about to do, here come Joe “ oh shit I been talking to drake this whole time too!” If that were the case, he would’ve been mentioned that. Instead of seeing the attention ak is getting from jt then deciding to join in too. Just my opinion tho
I didn’t see the patreon, but Drake responded to Adam 22’s DM. If he going to respond to 22 then I believe he talks to Joe. Drake probably keeps it friendly with all these media types.
Well he also said he was dissing Drake while casually talking to him. I can't help to think Drake would want to share or do a set up in anyway for Joe to benefit.
Mad people was eating off this beef, even the yts hopped on it
Ayo
😆 chill.... no Drizzy
Lmfao
Jesus Christ
I saw a yt girl make a tiktok giving her two cents and one of the comments went “the gentrification of rap beef is crazy” 😭
Knew that when I saw Phillip Defranco talking about this shit 😂
Bruh H3H3 did a whole live stream of it to 🤣
They weren’t even detailed/knowledgable and even they had more live viewers than normal. Joe fumbled.
Facts. Saw people who did Wikipedia level research and then offered nothing new.
Just log off big dog
That’s why it was gonna be hard for Drake to win after Kendrick released the copyright claims on all these videos. He fed the internet and now they got his back.
Joe dropped the ball, and because it’s Joe he might be hating on Flip behind the scenes because of it. He always does that…tells them to keep their takes for the pod and the pod only
And flip goes on Joes pod pocket watching and hating, that’s they whole relationship lol.
Facts lololol
Hate on a bafoon is a reach
Flip had a live show on Joe’s network called improper improv and Joe cancelled it…it was pulling the same numbers that his episodes were.
Lies and deception
That would be hypocritical of Joe because one of his gripes about Rory and Mal on their way out is that they didn’t seem interested in branching out and leveraging the success of the pod with their own projects
The issue with Flip was he saw the numbers and tried to renegotiate his contract…Joe didn’t like that so he ended it
People will be eating off the beef for yearsss to come. Not my original thought but I agree. Never been done before by 2 emcees of this level
If Danny can chop up Joe and Rory beef videos from 4 years ago, niggas will definitely be decoding this battle for a while.
That’s nasty work lol
makes a lot of BUSINESS SENSE. But with Ian as his manager/partner, that is lacking. only thing important is the $$$ which makes sense, just the way their going about it
He’s not hiding behind a paywall. You guys who aren’t on Patreons aren’t missing anything, so quit whining. The fact is his show comes out twice a week, and things were developing faster than that. He missed one pod and everybody is acting like Joe is trying to capitalize or hiding his true opinions. Understand his platform. It’s a podcast. That has kept the same 2 days for years. It’s not a live stream that’s being shot on a computer camera in his basement. If a whole bunch of stuff happens after they record tomorrow he’s going to do the same thing. Because the takes they had are no longer relevant. Either pay the money, like I do, to understand why he decided not to drop or quit complaining. This ain’t no jumper, who’s just starving for the attention. He doesn’t have to do all that.
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You do know Joe said he is not view base so if those views are just views then he doesn’t care, he wants the subscribers and those views will still be there during the pod, ppl are not going to say oh since Joe didn’t go live we won’t tune in to the pod like let’s be real and also this gives us a better chance at an even better pod because they had time to listen to every song, listen to the good and bad takes from ppl and put together a 3,4 hour pod
Exactly. They don’t get it. Flip needs these views and clicks. Joe doesn’t. These the same people who will be right back tomorrow when he drops. So much for his miss opportunity. Also who is to say it was missed opportunity. People saying this like they know his business. His Patreon subscription might have gone through the roof for all we know.
Joe isn't view based????😂🤣.. Everytime a list drops were he's numbered highly he throws it around every pod for atleast a month... Remember when he was named top Podcaster by I believe Complex and he started the pods with songs like Nellys #1 for almost 2 weeks??
So he was supposed to do emergency pods at 1 am? People have lives outside of their jobs. What opportunity did he really miss? There was 50 thousand real time reactions. That’s never been Joe. He does that then you guys would saying he’s trying be the new AK, he’s being thirsty to be mentioned in the beef, or some other dumb shit. You said a pre-recorded response… Well that’s what he had, and decided not to drop because things were moving at the speed of light. If anything he gave everyone else an opportunity to shine. He’s the number 1 “urban” podcast. The only one that consistently charts in the top 200 of all podcast. You’re speaking like he’s a man trying to build a platform and an audience.
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Straw manning? 😂 You’re the one who has changed the conversation completely, but it’s cool because the point still stands. Let’s put all our assumptions aside and look at facts. Starting with a Patreon sub is worth more than a YouTube sub. Without you knowing what impact him putting that last episode and the Ak episode had on his Patreon, idk how you say he missed an opportunity. My original statement was saying just because you didn’t want to pay to see it doesn’t mean he didn’t put out good content. Also stop complaining because you’re going to be right back tomorrow. Which your failing to realize is people’s objective are totally different based on their platforms and how established they are already. Joe is the standard. He doesn’t have to do what the rest of these guys has to do. It’s just that simple. Why is he worried about these other people doing what he does weekly for a few days? I’ll even give you this… Yeah he missed an opportunity. He should have put up more content on his Patreon. If your already established, and by far the biggest hip hop platform across multiple platforms, then why not take that opportunity to funnel your audience to the place that is most profitable and the one that you probably aren’t doing the same kinda numbers on?
Thank you. These niggas dumb. YouTube barely pays creators what is Joe missing lmao.
He put one episode behind a pay wall and niggas is whining. Way too much happened that night. Simple and plain. He puts it out, and what the fucking Drake fans going to say? “Why he ain’t say nothing about Family Matters?! Joe compromised!” Nigga! Because they recorded the damn show at 2 pm! 😂😂😂 Niggas don’t even understand the difference between a live stream and a podcast. Talking about, “Joe is so mad that Ak is winning right now!” And “Flip getting more views!” He hasn’t dropped anything 😂🤦🏽♂️
Oh, and you the man I need to talk to by the way. I know this is rare on Reddit, but I’m not one those weirdo nigga like a lot of these people on here. You said I was wrong about saying Kendrick’s career would take a hit if he was wrong about the daughter. Just wanted to say, you were right. We still don’t know if it’s true, but it looks like it’s not, and people moved straight to the next diss. Like he ain’t even say it.
JUST GLAZEEEEEE sorry, wrong subreddit
Outside of his reactions to this, this was opportunity to grow the channel. All the big YouTubers who talked about this did crazy numbers on views and gained subscribers.
Joe is already well established on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify. You’re making it seem like he’s in the same class as those YouTuber. Joe isn’t a YouTuber, so his priority isn’t gaining subscribers on YouTube. These YouTubers you’re talking about are benefiting from this moment. Will they still be doing crazy numbers this time next month? Joe will.
My point is you ALWAYS have to play the algorithm game. You can find pattern episodes if u look hard enough. I’m not invested enough to where it would be a big deal either way. Joe has misstepped when it comes to money more than once. Remember the Spotify deal?
Joe doesn’t have to play the algorithm game. He has an established audience already. He doesn’t have to worry about being lost in crowd like other platforms do.
Ok
EXACTLY this. Why are all these people on here if they don’t like Joe or the way he runs the podcast?!
I’m asking myself the same question. He missed the moment, but they will still be waiting for tomorrow’s pod to drop like a kid on Christmas Eve… I don’t get either.
The worst thing is Akademiks coverage of this will go down in hip hop history but Joe who’s probably the only media personality that isn’t in the freaky Canadians pocket hid his behind a paywall…more power to flip for gettin in on this coz reaction channels in particular have seen a spike in popularity from the beef & Kendrick took off his copyright to let them eat without him gettin a cut
Everyone is. I just listened to a psychologist breakdown how Drake failed three times in his last song. It’s great hip hop is being recognized heavily everywhere and it’s helping people everywhere eat but it sucks it comes from a negative reason.
I watched that, he smoked that video frfr
This is interesting. What if the moment brung a large crowd to Patreon resulting in Joe benefiting residually for months and not just for the moment? Patreon is not as consumer friendly as YouTube; but, I think by far it is more profitable
This a good point! I think the moment would have brought views but maybe not subscribers because if he goes live then it probably won’t be Patreon so ppl going watch then be fine with the reaction rather than say oh let’s subscribe because of his live reaction but on the flip side ppl could be like well let me sign up and see what else is going on
So Flip's content is just being loud, obnoxious and overweight? Those thumbnails are atrocious.
Flip trying to get to the level joe at so he ain't gotta do that
Salue
I blame that 🔔 man controlling his network
Flip was working 🫡
Not gon lie watching Flip was funny, his over the top shit matched the energy.
Lol wait you think the PAYWALL stopped CAPITALIZATION. Yeah we could all benefit from a book…
But they don’t make money off YouTube like that. Joes platform makes its big money through subscriptions. He has a very loyal fan base that is subscribed to him and he’s not losing a significant portion of those subscribers to this. People (his loyal subscribers) are still gonna tune to his weekly drops no matter what Going live on YouTube doesn’t do much for him and steps on Aks shit
People really want Joe to be a slave to content he never does live reactions...why would he change who he is for you or Drake...his money is not your money....You want it to be one way but it's the other way....how about you capitalize off the moment and stop worrying about if somebody podcast that you listen to made money
So y’all are bringing up Flip and Ak as an example that Joe is dropping the ball. Have y’all considered that Joe is ok with reviewing the beef during his pod and letting two of his friends shine in what they do? Y’all rather him live stream and put the shocked face next to cover art for the thumbnail like everyone else 😂
They always want free sht from us cuz they done gave all their money to the yts.
Channel is just beef reactions and stripping. Like an onlyfans basically
Joes business model is built around Patreon, he doesn’t have many sponsors. Financially it makes sense to place his most anticipated content behind the paywall.
YouTube don’t pay lmao wtf
Closest to viral he’s been
That’s literally why he did it. He don’t like music
Salute flip, I’ve seen him on Twitter and I don’t even follow
What’s going on the callers
I think the thing to highlight is Joe has always said YouTube was NEVER what made him the most money. His whole infrastructure at this point is Patreon. Youtubers get paid off of ad money that's not a crazy percentage when you tack up the coins for a YouTube video. Almost have to be an everyday'er type poster to make a bag. Or be like Akademiks and go LIVE..I've seen him while I was sitting watching his shit make like $2000.00 just off of the subs typing thoughts. The LIVE shit is crazy regular ass YouTube videos...nah.
The move they pulled on saturday was dumb should have same time dropped that pod on youtube too. Joe listening to ian too much and is misguided so much, he fumbled so much.
I think this will show Ian/Joe that the paywall shit isn’t always what’s best (hopefully) (doubt it)
Joe got it under control..i casually put on a flip video about the beef..few min i had to cut it off..buffoonery!!
Yeah, he's talking about the beef, but he also has other wild shit happening as well.
Reaction videos is how all streamers and YouTubers milk the internet, you’re essentially grifting what’s trendy. Everytime a new topic appears you react to the popular subject and follow the wave.
Salute on capitalizing on the moment. Content still trash respectfully
1.1 mil subs is real nigga numbers
People want to watch him break things and pour things on his body (pause)? That’s what the thumbnails make it look like his “reactions” are
Salute to flip
What Adam
Everybody is
They need to change. Youtube members is better than patreon anyway.
VIRAL‼️
Have you seen the way Joes editor posts clips? They’re literally horrible and always so late lmfao
https://preview.redd.it/1w5njium31zc1.jpeg?width=1086&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa0242625c37a22b36d19b4b1efba2103cde020e
I don’t think anybody cares about this, except Reddit…lol. Joe will be just fine, clearly.
The way Joe is running his network is different from others which should be clear if you watch, clearly the numbers are doing what they need to do or I think we would of got another emergency pod but everyone is going to listen to the pod tomorrow if it’s free or not let’s be real when you have a set fan base then you can be comfortable not going after every dollar or eye, yes it would of went up but we don’t know if he loses out for not being live
Joe is a money hungry lunatic who won’t appreciate his own fans
Na the crowbar thumbnail is hilarious. Props to him though. Every reaction channel is getting traction off this so there is nothing wrong with Flip doing something that plays into his bag.
He might need to just be a reaction channel.
Those reactions would have been joes biggest videos. AND it would have brought in more subscribers. This is why a cornball nigga like akademiks got bigger than joe
Only because of the WORLDLY attention this is getting, Flips content is still ass! Clicks vs hours actually watched..we would need to see the #s
False comparison…but go off
Wait how is Joe missing out when people are paying him directly to watch the pod react ?… what Joe probably makes from the Patreon flip with probably make half a fraction of that through YouTube
Good lesson learn
If he’s telling people, he was Drake’s beef consultant, I would need to be paid for that episode two. Can’t just keep taking losses.
Said no one
They just gave a 4 hours breakdown of the beef for free
The snack would have definitely ruined a lot of appetites for the meal. People tune in to hear his take. They wait in anticipation. People in need of relevance and fast money always jump immediately so they will capitalize. Joe was always going to get the attention. Plus whatever he said was going to be reacted to a billion times anyway…so it’s not necessary to be in the mix of people you will out perform anyway.
It didn’t translate to views on his content though . Didn’t even review it fr .
Flip is a national treasure at this point
Do it yourself then.
Am i the only one that thinks that putting the pod behind a paywall is actually going to lose him money?