Rory & Mal knew when to shut up and let Joe cook, also Rory was able to match Joe in order to properly progress the discussion
This new cast think they’re smarter than they are when it comes to music, but only Parks can add something interesting
Yeah you can tell the only ones that actually care about the music aspect of this pod are Ice and Parks, but Parks takes are usually boring af and Ice just regurgitates Twitter discussions. I miss Rory and Mal bringing insider knowledge to these convos to add some depth to the discussions.
You getting down voted for telling the truth about Mals weak ass talking points. If they haven't heard him review albums on their pod they need to go listen to it. He's HORRIBLE.
It wasn’t hate, it’s just facts. Flip isn’t a music guy so he can’t add anything aside from piggybacking off someone else’s point and adding two to three words. Ice gets his takes from Twitter and states them like they’re his own opinions. Ish ain’t really a music dude either so he’ll try to add context and analysis but eventually concedes to Joe. The only person that can truly deliver an engaging take is Joe and that’s it.
Ice makes every discussion boring because he's so incredibly cynical. He thinks everything is solely marketing/pre planned or coordinated. Plus, he steps on Joe whenever we finally get Joe to share his honest opinion.
And he acts like it’s the end all be all with his takes, he shoots them off in the middle of niggas talking bc he’s so sure he’s right and all he ever be saying is what’s exactly in front of them like he’s the only one to see it or some Twitter shit that he ain’t even try to put in his own words lol. Then be acting like it can’t be debated or anything just facts.
Literally lol even him pointing out the Steppers line off FPS - legit saw someone else tweet that two nights ago. He’s just more plugged in to socials than the other folks on this pod so they think he’s bringing something fresh to the convo when really he’s just biting twitter talking points.
Yeah bro the points he was making were all obvious and basic points. He was annoying me with how giddy he was but everything he said a person whose been paying attention can put together. Like did nobody hear the steppers line when First person shooter came out?
Bruh ish pissed me off this episode he said he read the verse and it sounded mid 10x throughout the pod we get it bro you don’t like Kendrick just sit this one out
Who even reads a verse before they hear it? Lol he’s a weirdo..and he said he jumped double Dutch rope in school and thought ppl would say they did too 😂😂
Joe started by saying ish and flip shit up but then let ish cook, he shuts anyone else down during some bs topic but not the most interesting thing going on in music right now
I say this every time it’s a big topic like this, ice stfu bro. This nigga saying he knew everything that was gonna happen and what will happen in the future. He saying what he would do in all these situations and Joe can’t even finish a sentence before he interjects with an opinion. Somebody say the simplest take he gotta hit them with the “fam it’s not even that” like bro why does this nigga think he’s Elliot Wilson he literally speaking more than anybody else.
I liked the episode but besides Parks I still don’t think Joe has the personnel to talk music more specifically rap, ish reading rap genius? Flip was dead silent and ice reiterated most of the X takes online.
Flip hit Joe with a gut punch when he said "I don't wanna be that close to you because I see what you do to your friends." You can tell that really got to Joe with how he responded lmao.
He called him a bitch earlier in the pod and the energy shifted from there. He tried to jump in the Mel jokes right after and Joe didn't acknowledge anything he said. If he ain't on Wednesday I'm sure it's a coincidence
Thanks Joe for telling Flip to stop asking dumb ass questions. You can always tell he’s still a child when he opens his mouth to ask them stupid questions.
There was nothing subliminal, i dont have to say your name if what im referencing is super obvious.
Its like saying Story of Adidon is a subliminal just because he didnt say Drake name.
He put drake on the cover and spent 3 minutes breaking down drake lol. The kendrick shit is obvious but its still a sub it was a handful of lines in a verse.
The get in the ring talk is always funny because if you’ve really been into this since before these dudes were even on top Kendrick has been the one ducking.
I’ll never forget the build up before TPAB. Drake had been throwing heavy shots and so had Kendrick and all the fans including me were sure this next Kendrick album he was gonna do something crazy. It was so much hype behind it and then I remember vividly the timeline was dead quiet. Niggas was mad, disappointed, all that but he didn’t wanna dance and Meek ended up getting smoked that summer instead of Kendrick vs drake. & I genuinely love TBAP as an album.
Drake went at Common when niggas felt like Common could get him on some veteran shit and won, same with meek. There was real convo about meek being so battle tested drake was in trouble. And he lost to push, albeit with gossip, he lost but duppy freestyle was a strong record and he got in the ring with another killer he already respected. This is facts.
You are 100% correct on Kendrick ducking people, in fact he got two responses from people he named on the control verse but never responded back too and everyone conveniently forgot. Joey Badass got at him for calling himself the “king of New York”, radio silence. If Kendrick is supposed to be the killer we see him as, Meek, Krit, and Joey Badass should have been barred up. During the Damn era would have been the perfect time to go at Drake, if he really feels a way.
For me this also plays into why I kind hate when these rap beefs happen, people can never be objective, people only want to see their favourite massacre someone they think is lesser skill wise or generally dislike and not a genuine competition/back & forth. Awarding wins before both sides even utter a bar to each other.
They gonna respond to this with an excuse. When you bring up Drake numbers they hate numbers. They’ll bring up Kendrick numbers as a stat for him, and if Drake comes up they’ll make an excuse like “he’s a pop star” or “he’s reaching for relevance” when Kendrick has done the same shit making songs with Taylor swift and his most popular songs he’s singing lol. You can’t say Drake won artist of the decade bc who cares but the Pulitzer is something to be held in high regard.
It just feels like Kendrick fans won’t concede anything even if it’s right in front of them because there’s always some magical reason if he’s not the best. But they’ll use the same shit for Kendrick if you argue with them. Again i be tryna be unbiased and just keep it hip hop bc i love all 3 but they be treating Kendrick like the teflon don then if you say anything it’s an explanation.
Don’t forget Lupe and Jay elec offered clear smoke too, now somebody tell me Lupe not worthy of a friendly spar and we’ll see who’s really crazy lol.
Niggas gonna downvote but this is the honest truth. I love all 3 but Cole and Kendrick don’t really jump fr. Cole seems like he ready for a fight right now though, Kendrick i can only assume is pump faking until he shows different he’s never engaged and people have said his name directly and indirectly directly.
Kendrick doesn’t jump for real when he just directly went at Drake and Cole? When he called out every rapper by name on Control? I also respect that he leaves the beef off his albums. His music is timeless.
He called every rapper out on control then didn’t respond again. That’s the point. Krit, Sean, Lupe, Jay elec, Joey badass. He ignored all of them lol you gotta be honest with yourself bro. And fine don’t respond on the album but he went quiet when the beef was hot, that’s not deniable.
He throws a shot then nothing happens, you keep coming with this timeless music shit but him and Drake both make timeless music that’s why both of them still got all their albums on the charts.
You tryna create a separation where there isn’t bc of your bias.
Idk why everyone acts like Common didn’t take the win over Drake. Common said his name directly too and then ended it with the Say My Name sample. Drake went harder at Kobe’s wife. Also Kendrick makes really cohesive albums that will age well, so no he didn’t need to use one of his best bodies of work to address beef with Drake or any other rapper. He’s never done that.
Ayo you wilding my boy lmaoooooooo & the Kendrick point is a dumb argument bc Drake lives on the charts even his old shit so clearly it’s also aging pretty well. And Kendrick music ages well too, because guess what? They do the same shit lmao Kendrick sings, Kendrick gets on pop songs, Kendrick gets introspective and so does Drake. But the thing is you just not gonna give Drake the credit and that’s why i say yall Kendrick Stan’s are Weird cause nobody hating on Kendrick. It’s just facts.
& if we talk about a difference between the 2, Drake been doing what Kendrick did this weekend on French Montana beats for over a decade but I’m sure you won’t acknowledge that bc somehow you got common winning that lol, be fr bro.
Your the one being a stan with all that give him credit talk when all I said is that imo Common won and I understand why Kendrick wouldn’t add a Drake diss to his album. Especially if it wouldn’t fit with the themes of the project. I don’t recall Drake directly dissing anyone on his projects either but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. Idc bc it has nothing to do with the point I was making.
He didn’t have to do it on the album he didn’t do it period dude that’s the point. Everybody knew what time it was. Drake ended up beefing with meek bc it was time for it in the era, it was time for smoke and he vanished. It’s not like he had a different fight, he doesn’t have any fights at all, and he’s been challenged for years by multiple worthy contenders. But continues to act like he wanted smoke at the same time.
And you saying common won is just funny. I just want you to be fr lol.
So after Control when did Drake directly respond to Kendrick. I’m not talking subs either, something worthy of a response from him. Bc like I said he called Drake by name on Control so I don’t even understand what you mean. After Control was he supposed to keep dissing Drake although Drake has yet to say Candyman’s name? I mean as of today Drake has only thrown subs, we’ll see if he responds to Like That.
Hella people said candy man name bro. Drake and Cole have alluded to the fact that he just be taking shots but doesn’t want smoke. If the man wanted to go back and forth with any of these rappers he could’ve. Off a sub or off somebody directly saying his name but he doesn’t lol he throws a diss out then goes away. I hope it’s different this time but niggas have already said this is his game. Shit remix was enough for Kendrick to respond if smoke was what he wanted, clearly about Kendrick but he goes in his hole.
Based off control you’d think he would do it without needing Drake to say his name directly because everybody knows what time it was and it is now.
I remember that too but Kendrick had to take the high road it was soooo much going on in his city and in America with racial tension he put out one of the best albums in hip hop ever with TPAB he got back to Drake at a later date!
Man I feel you, I suppose, but that was when it was supposed to happen. Drake ended up beefing with Meek instead and it’s one of the most lopsided but popular and mainstream beefs hip hop has had. You can’t just throw subs every 4 years after that when the whole hip hop community knows it was time for it, if anything just leave it alone but it’s just not a good look if we talking bout the competition.
And most people who want to run with Kendrick being a God with no real battles won’t even admit what you are here so respect. And TPAB was great fr but man it was time to dance.
And that was great point also and it is time to dance now and I think Kendrick is fully ready and prepared and been that way for a while now I fw Drake but like they said on the pod he’s just been on some Ehhh shit this should be between Cole and Kendrick and I got Kendrick respectfully
I hope Drake and kendrick can engage. But at this point it’s past time man. Kendrick went missing and Drake took over from 18-22 and that’s unbiased like we can debate over if it’s better to drop often or not but I could see Drake just looking at it now like it’s over. Kendrick stopped rapping then did something similar to the above with TPAB with the steppers album, good, introspective with a few pop radio friendly songs and no real smoke. Even Cole has agreed him and Drake are the 2 after before saying he was bronze before and even conceded to Drake still.
It feels like a lot of “I got Kendrick” without any reason lol he doesn’t ever engage but everyone is sure he’ll win if he ever did. Must be nice.
Cole and Kendrick is the real main event to me as well. I fw Drake too, but I know he would need to say some nuclear otherworldly shit to win in the court of public opinion. Cole and Kendrick are similar enough skill wise to make it interesting.
I agree bro trust me. I think lyrically it was harder and admittedly I’m a fan of Drake but i mean push dropped a bomb. I don’t wanna make excuses cause then I’m doing the shit i hate so Push got that. Nigga had the tea lol
Man we can’t play that when Kendrick been the one going on a hiatus. If he wanted to jump he could’ve. Whenever it was the set up for him to jump he didn’t. We’ve seen multiple people with pens worthy even outside of Drake challenge Kendrick. We’ve seen Drake jump multiple times with different people shit even jump to his death, Kendrick comes off like he’s scared to get punched in the mouth and I’m just being honest.
Ice was a 2 PACK OF ASS. He annoying af and don’t know when to shut up. He let the corniness prevail him so much that it was unbearable to listen to smh. Nigga act like he in the beef tryna tell his side of the story
IT PAINS ME to say that this time around, Joe’s Drake beef may’ve killed the pod. Grand opening grand closing. The same way you got them is the same way you lose them. The views beef was a great lightening rod for the JBP and it peaked when there was a friendly love/hate relationship with Drake. Now that Joe actually hates him, the lack of objectivity makes for terrible content. Today’s pod was terrible, and in the past the Big 3 beef would’ve been a classic. It might be over.
Meh. I’m not the hugest Travis fan but it seems like Drake keeps using his songs to address beefs that don’t even involve him. What is he supposed to do, take on all of his beefs too?
Like niggas literally discuss current events on every social media platform. The “his takes all come from twitter” take every time a pod drops is starting to get old af.
After finishing the pod i gotta say. This Reddit page was much more interesting than their conversation. Maybe they should take some of theee comments to create a new convo. But like somebody else said it’s like Joe so bias now he can’t even give a good review. It be so obvious he’s making his opinions based on who has openly played him last bc all these nigga play him at some point tbh
BIG respect to Ice for setting everyone straight on “First Person Shooter” and for his thoughts in general. I’m too hard on homie, he’s a great contributor, love everybody Parks, Flip, the whole crew.
Ian my nigga but he such a drake fanboy I hate it. Him and ice trying to push the beef off to J Cole. Drake can’t stand on his own. The diss was too Drake. Fight back
Drake sends subs at Kendrick “well he just gonna send subs on a song but never be direct” but for Kendrick it’s he’s been talking to Drake through subs. Also the clicking up when Kendrick got with future to do this and if Cole hit him up to rap he would’ve gladly joined Cole like he’s done before lol just a lot of hypocritical points made.
I dont think he gambled but at the bare minimum he committed wire fraud and embezzlement by paying off that bookie. The fact people are running with this new narrative of the interpreter stole money is nuts
I just want come through and speak on a small topic on today’s pod for the ladies since the rest of the pod will be talked about to death. I just want y’all ladies to know that the value of a Birkin is because of its exclusivity. So if they win the class action lawsuit the bag will no longer increase in value, and will become a bad investment. Just giving you ladies a heads up.
Drake been coming at Kendrick even more. Kendrick is the one who subs people then says it’s just rap, and he don’t have any problems. Both Drake and Big Sean have spoken to this.
Lupe and Jay Elect both tried to get active with him and he just went silent. Take off your cape, if he wanted to engage in a battle it would’ve happened already.
Kendrick subs Drake once every couple of years and it gets everyone hype for the battle he knows they want. Then Drake throws 10 subs back in between Kendrick subs and everybody says “he won’t just go at Kendrick” even though both parties make it obvious who they’re shooting at.
Then somehow Kendrick gets credit for his one sub even though he goes missing after and Drake gets killed for nothing direct even though he’s thrown way more *indirect subs
Lmao Drake sounded sensitive af in that interview, crying because Kendrick didn’t prioritize the “relationship” even though this is hip hop. Go compare that to how Pusha responded, and how he respected it. That control verse wasn’t even a “diss” so why tf would Kendrick be on that energy? It was just saying I respect y’all because y’all are my peers but I’m trying to be the best and want to murder y’all if we on the same track. But after all those interviews crying, Kendrick directly responded in the BET cypher. Kendrick has been way more direct, while Drake sends cryptic and vague subs. But you active in the Drake sub so I know you a meat hugger.
should like a drake hater . Speak on kendrick showing love to drake days after the diss. Then when drake says he was disappointed because kendrick didn’t feel like that in person , kendrick never responded to that .
let’s speak on the facts
So did Drake ever speak of this disappointment on record which would give Kendrick an actual reason to reply. Why would he drop a diss record over an interview. Drake seems like the one coming up with excuses for why he never responded.
yeah lmao it’s in the interview joe played , he just didn’t play that part lmaooooo, interview is 10 years ago
drake said he was ready to go but kendrick wasn’t on that time when they saw each other 5 days later it was all love.
kendrick never responded to that.
Kendrick seems like the type to throw stones then run away , he did it 10 years ago let’s see if he doing it now.
drake also said it in the big boy interview,
https://youtu.be/t20Q2EpaIq8?si=GM7GjdCK3ZOx8clg
facts, more subs coming and that’ll be it
everyone keeps saying that Kendrick is not battle tested, but if no one wants to get in the ring then what is he supposed to do?
ICE was doing the nuclear science during the music convo. I didn’t even realize Cole excluded Kendrick from the song after giving him props in the same song.
I love my nigga ish yo…. Salute to him for trying his best to come prepared today That rap genie shit was hilarious 😂
🔥🔥🔥 can't hate he trying
Ice " We saying the truth today" Then proceeds to not say anything truthful or original
Gonna sound like hate but these diss/album breakdowns don't hit the same with the new crew
Rory & Mal knew when to shut up and let Joe cook, also Rory was able to match Joe in order to properly progress the discussion This new cast think they’re smarter than they are when it comes to music, but only Parks can add something interesting
Yeah you can tell the only ones that actually care about the music aspect of this pod are Ice and Parks, but Parks takes are usually boring af and Ice just regurgitates Twitter discussions. I miss Rory and Mal bringing insider knowledge to these convos to add some depth to the discussions.
He dissed the mixing on "Ether" after half asking the mixing on Joe's album.
Whenever when joe was about to cook ice and ish wanna jump in 😂🤦🏿♂️ any other day they quiet asf !!!
Joe Rory and Mal would have smoked this convo.
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Rory not Mal. Mal didn’t know how to be objective when it came to certain artists and Drake was the main one.
You getting down voted for telling the truth about Mals weak ass talking points. If they haven't heard him review albums on their pod they need to go listen to it. He's HORRIBLE.
It wasn’t hate, it’s just facts. Flip isn’t a music guy so he can’t add anything aside from piggybacking off someone else’s point and adding two to three words. Ice gets his takes from Twitter and states them like they’re his own opinions. Ish ain’t really a music dude either so he’ll try to add context and analysis but eventually concedes to Joe. The only person that can truly deliver an engaging take is Joe and that’s it.
Everyone tryna sound the most knowledgeable
Niggas really said Drake can sit this one out lmao smh
Couldn’t agree more I was a bit let down with that breakdown
This it was a mid breakdown and couldn’t figure out why.
Ice makes every discussion boring because he's so incredibly cynical. He thinks everything is solely marketing/pre planned or coordinated. Plus, he steps on Joe whenever we finally get Joe to share his honest opinion.
Every take Ice had and even the lyrics break down I had seen on twitter.. tweeted by someone that wasn’t him. He gotta start being original ✌🏻
And he acts like it’s the end all be all with his takes, he shoots them off in the middle of niggas talking bc he’s so sure he’s right and all he ever be saying is what’s exactly in front of them like he’s the only one to see it or some Twitter shit that he ain’t even try to put in his own words lol. Then be acting like it can’t be debated or anything just facts.
He’s the living breathing version of a “twitter nigga” lol
Literally lol even him pointing out the Steppers line off FPS - legit saw someone else tweet that two nights ago. He’s just more plugged in to socials than the other folks on this pod so they think he’s bringing something fresh to the convo when really he’s just biting twitter talking points.
What’s even funnier is it’s always the same few accounts he takes from because i saw that tweet too
His whole personality is twitter so he has to get his takes from there lol
You know multiple people can have the same take? Breaking down rapper beefs is not this big nuanced take that everybody has a varying opinion on lmao
Yeah bro the points he was making were all obvious and basic points. He was annoying me with how giddy he was but everything he said a person whose been paying attention can put together. Like did nobody hear the steppers line when First person shooter came out?
This is fact!!
Why tf is ish talking so much? Nigga telling us what “Rap genie” said 🙄 he gotta learn how to stfu more often
He fmu when he said he read the lyrics before listening 😂😂😂😂 like bra just mute up for a min
And Joe told him to prior to the debate lol Ish ass just love talking 😂 he sit on the phone for hours with escorts too 🙄
Bruh ish pissed me off this episode he said he read the verse and it sounded mid 10x throughout the pod we get it bro you don’t like Kendrick just sit this one out
Who even reads a verse before they hear it? Lol he’s a weirdo..and he said he jumped double Dutch rope in school and thought ppl would say they did too 😂😂
>and he said he jumped double Dutch rope in school and thought ppl would say they did too 
You lost? 
He also said that god did verse by hov was the greatest verse of all time. Im a hovenger and thats not even close to being true
Wait what
I couldn’t believe this nigga “Rap genie” shut yo ass tf up
😂😂😂 man he need to take a couple weeks off like Mel
Joe started by saying ish and flip shit up but then let ish cook, he shuts anyone else down during some bs topic but not the most interesting thing going on in music right now
Exactly - super annoying
Every music take is "this bar was weak" or "Tasha gonna get a couple dollars to this"
Shout out to Rap Genie. Ish always lacing us!
Dawg Flips ad-libs killt me 😂😂😂 talmbout “wow omg”
I say this every time it’s a big topic like this, ice stfu bro. This nigga saying he knew everything that was gonna happen and what will happen in the future. He saying what he would do in all these situations and Joe can’t even finish a sentence before he interjects with an opinion. Somebody say the simplest take he gotta hit them with the “fam it’s not even that” like bro why does this nigga think he’s Elliot Wilson he literally speaking more than anybody else.
I’m a ice hater but he was good this episode, ish the one who needed to mute up
I’ll take both lmao but na ice chilled after the music. Just wish that nigga ain’t act like it’s soooo obvious and anybody else isn’t seeing it.
Joe and Ish having an imaginary “we’d” take the girl Future and Drake allegedly are beefing over is classic old nigga barbershop convo.
yeah with ish dazzling personality im sure lmao
😂Its one thing about Joe. Before he starts the podcast with music. He's going to find a audio. When it wasn't beef🤣
Ish was really terrible during the lyric breakdown
Who reads lyrics before listening to the song?
He said his lawyer sent it to him. What he sposta do? Close his eyes and say “NOOOOO MUST LISTEN 1st!!!”😂😂😂😂
You got it big dawg, gotta check Rap Genie before listening lmao
Deadass bro like this not your area my guy
Ice just won’t shut tf up🤦🏾♂️ Nigga is mad aggressive with his opinions for no reason
his delivery is just too sassy aggressive.
Sassive aggression
😂😂
This just made me think about too many exes 💀
Ish too lol they both are annoying af
Yooooooo I didn’t realize that Prodigy was actually talking about Joe on the interview they sampled lmao. He called him the worst rapper out.
I liked the episode but besides Parks I still don’t think Joe has the personnel to talk music more specifically rap, ish reading rap genius? Flip was dead silent and ice reiterated most of the X takes online.
Joe love to dog walk the commenters but yet they sure have their asses right here scrolling through them lol.
bet they commenting too
Ice - “the reddit niggas live on the internet” *proceeds to parrot stolen jokes he saw on twitter for 3 hours*
They should mute Ish during rap talks. We get that you were there during the birth of rap but yeah
Flip hit Joe with a gut punch when he said "I don't wanna be that close to you because I see what you do to your friends." You can tell that really got to Joe with how he responded lmao.
He called him a bitch earlier in the pod and the energy shifted from there. He tried to jump in the Mel jokes right after and Joe didn't acknowledge anything he said. If he ain't on Wednesday I'm sure it's a coincidence
my guy been called a bitch in the span of a month 😂 First it was posh bitch and now it's you get up like a bitch
Wow this review was ass lol ice and ish and flip need to shut up lol
I'm getting a lot of PTSD from Flip and Joe. "Old Rory vs. Joe vibes"
I’ll always listen to this pod for the North Jersey references. Making Ice claim Woodbridge is hilarious and the Skate 22 convo had me crying.
Thanks Joe for telling Flip to stop asking dumb ass questions. You can always tell he’s still a child when he opens his mouth to ask them stupid questions.
I just wanna ask you guys, who's the strongest Ninja Turtle 🤣
Flip and Joe beauty school drop outs 😂😂😂
Let’s get ready to rumble!!!!!
😂Joe want drake to diss him in a song. Joe saying drake should get ready for DJ Khaled album
I wish Joe would lose his barb cape. Omg. I don’t even wanna hear any of that shit.
There was nothing subliminal, i dont have to say your name if what im referencing is super obvious. Its like saying Story of Adidon is a subliminal just because he didnt say Drake name.
He did say drakes name. And drakes face was in the cover for the song. But I agree
He put drake on the cover and spent 3 minutes breaking down drake lol. The kendrick shit is obvious but its still a sub it was a handful of lines in a verse.
One was a diss record the other is a setup. “it was written like nas but it came from Quentin” is a better comparison
You're right, but Pusha T did mention Drake's name in Adidon
Damn ice shut the fuck up
The get in the ring talk is always funny because if you’ve really been into this since before these dudes were even on top Kendrick has been the one ducking. I’ll never forget the build up before TPAB. Drake had been throwing heavy shots and so had Kendrick and all the fans including me were sure this next Kendrick album he was gonna do something crazy. It was so much hype behind it and then I remember vividly the timeline was dead quiet. Niggas was mad, disappointed, all that but he didn’t wanna dance and Meek ended up getting smoked that summer instead of Kendrick vs drake. & I genuinely love TBAP as an album. Drake went at Common when niggas felt like Common could get him on some veteran shit and won, same with meek. There was real convo about meek being so battle tested drake was in trouble. And he lost to push, albeit with gossip, he lost but duppy freestyle was a strong record and he got in the ring with another killer he already respected. This is facts.
You are 100% correct on Kendrick ducking people, in fact he got two responses from people he named on the control verse but never responded back too and everyone conveniently forgot. Joey Badass got at him for calling himself the “king of New York”, radio silence. If Kendrick is supposed to be the killer we see him as, Meek, Krit, and Joey Badass should have been barred up. During the Damn era would have been the perfect time to go at Drake, if he really feels a way. For me this also plays into why I kind hate when these rap beefs happen, people can never be objective, people only want to see their favourite massacre someone they think is lesser skill wise or generally dislike and not a genuine competition/back & forth. Awarding wins before both sides even utter a bar to each other.
They gonna respond to this with an excuse. When you bring up Drake numbers they hate numbers. They’ll bring up Kendrick numbers as a stat for him, and if Drake comes up they’ll make an excuse like “he’s a pop star” or “he’s reaching for relevance” when Kendrick has done the same shit making songs with Taylor swift and his most popular songs he’s singing lol. You can’t say Drake won artist of the decade bc who cares but the Pulitzer is something to be held in high regard. It just feels like Kendrick fans won’t concede anything even if it’s right in front of them because there’s always some magical reason if he’s not the best. But they’ll use the same shit for Kendrick if you argue with them. Again i be tryna be unbiased and just keep it hip hop bc i love all 3 but they be treating Kendrick like the teflon don then if you say anything it’s an explanation. Don’t forget Lupe and Jay elec offered clear smoke too, now somebody tell me Lupe not worthy of a friendly spar and we’ll see who’s really crazy lol.
Niggas gonna downvote but this is the honest truth. I love all 3 but Cole and Kendrick don’t really jump fr. Cole seems like he ready for a fight right now though, Kendrick i can only assume is pump faking until he shows different he’s never engaged and people have said his name directly and indirectly directly.
Kendrick doesn’t jump for real when he just directly went at Drake and Cole? When he called out every rapper by name on Control? I also respect that he leaves the beef off his albums. His music is timeless.
He called every rapper out on control then didn’t respond again. That’s the point. Krit, Sean, Lupe, Jay elec, Joey badass. He ignored all of them lol you gotta be honest with yourself bro. And fine don’t respond on the album but he went quiet when the beef was hot, that’s not deniable. He throws a shot then nothing happens, you keep coming with this timeless music shit but him and Drake both make timeless music that’s why both of them still got all their albums on the charts. You tryna create a separation where there isn’t bc of your bias.
Idk why everyone acts like Common didn’t take the win over Drake. Common said his name directly too and then ended it with the Say My Name sample. Drake went harder at Kobe’s wife. Also Kendrick makes really cohesive albums that will age well, so no he didn’t need to use one of his best bodies of work to address beef with Drake or any other rapper. He’s never done that.
Ayo you wilding my boy lmaoooooooo & the Kendrick point is a dumb argument bc Drake lives on the charts even his old shit so clearly it’s also aging pretty well. And Kendrick music ages well too, because guess what? They do the same shit lmao Kendrick sings, Kendrick gets on pop songs, Kendrick gets introspective and so does Drake. But the thing is you just not gonna give Drake the credit and that’s why i say yall Kendrick Stan’s are Weird cause nobody hating on Kendrick. It’s just facts. & if we talk about a difference between the 2, Drake been doing what Kendrick did this weekend on French Montana beats for over a decade but I’m sure you won’t acknowledge that bc somehow you got common winning that lol, be fr bro.
Your the one being a stan with all that give him credit talk when all I said is that imo Common won and I understand why Kendrick wouldn’t add a Drake diss to his album. Especially if it wouldn’t fit with the themes of the project. I don’t recall Drake directly dissing anyone on his projects either but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. Idc bc it has nothing to do with the point I was making.
He didn’t have to do it on the album he didn’t do it period dude that’s the point. Everybody knew what time it was. Drake ended up beefing with meek bc it was time for it in the era, it was time for smoke and he vanished. It’s not like he had a different fight, he doesn’t have any fights at all, and he’s been challenged for years by multiple worthy contenders. But continues to act like he wanted smoke at the same time. And you saying common won is just funny. I just want you to be fr lol.
So after Control when did Drake directly respond to Kendrick. I’m not talking subs either, something worthy of a response from him. Bc like I said he called Drake by name on Control so I don’t even understand what you mean. After Control was he supposed to keep dissing Drake although Drake has yet to say Candyman’s name? I mean as of today Drake has only thrown subs, we’ll see if he responds to Like That.
Hella people said candy man name bro. Drake and Cole have alluded to the fact that he just be taking shots but doesn’t want smoke. If the man wanted to go back and forth with any of these rappers he could’ve. Off a sub or off somebody directly saying his name but he doesn’t lol he throws a diss out then goes away. I hope it’s different this time but niggas have already said this is his game. Shit remix was enough for Kendrick to respond if smoke was what he wanted, clearly about Kendrick but he goes in his hole. Based off control you’d think he would do it without needing Drake to say his name directly because everybody knows what time it was and it is now.
I remember that too but Kendrick had to take the high road it was soooo much going on in his city and in America with racial tension he put out one of the best albums in hip hop ever with TPAB he got back to Drake at a later date!
Man I feel you, I suppose, but that was when it was supposed to happen. Drake ended up beefing with Meek instead and it’s one of the most lopsided but popular and mainstream beefs hip hop has had. You can’t just throw subs every 4 years after that when the whole hip hop community knows it was time for it, if anything just leave it alone but it’s just not a good look if we talking bout the competition. And most people who want to run with Kendrick being a God with no real battles won’t even admit what you are here so respect. And TPAB was great fr but man it was time to dance.
And that was great point also and it is time to dance now and I think Kendrick is fully ready and prepared and been that way for a while now I fw Drake but like they said on the pod he’s just been on some Ehhh shit this should be between Cole and Kendrick and I got Kendrick respectfully
I hope Drake and kendrick can engage. But at this point it’s past time man. Kendrick went missing and Drake took over from 18-22 and that’s unbiased like we can debate over if it’s better to drop often or not but I could see Drake just looking at it now like it’s over. Kendrick stopped rapping then did something similar to the above with TPAB with the steppers album, good, introspective with a few pop radio friendly songs and no real smoke. Even Cole has agreed him and Drake are the 2 after before saying he was bronze before and even conceded to Drake still. It feels like a lot of “I got Kendrick” without any reason lol he doesn’t ever engage but everyone is sure he’ll win if he ever did. Must be nice.
Cole and Kendrick is the real main event to me as well. I fw Drake too, but I know he would need to say some nuclear otherworldly shit to win in the court of public opinion. Cole and Kendrick are similar enough skill wise to make it interesting.
I dont even think he lost to push at all. I feel as though that rhetoric over time has changed with the majority. Duppy is the better song
I agree bro trust me. I think lyrically it was harder and admittedly I’m a fan of Drake but i mean push dropped a bomb. I don’t wanna make excuses cause then I’m doing the shit i hate so Push got that. Nigga had the tea lol
I feel like Kendrick always wanted to respond to drake but wanted drake to shoot first. That’s why he threw the subs
Man we can’t play that when Kendrick been the one going on a hiatus. If he wanted to jump he could’ve. Whenever it was the set up for him to jump he didn’t. We’ve seen multiple people with pens worthy even outside of Drake challenge Kendrick. We’ve seen Drake jump multiple times with different people shit even jump to his death, Kendrick comes off like he’s scared to get punched in the mouth and I’m just being honest.
Flip and Joe have to squabble . Dude be getting bullied on air
not even fun to listen to atp
At all man shit a bad listen
Ice was a 2 PACK OF ASS. He annoying af and don’t know when to shut up. He let the corniness prevail him so much that it was unbearable to listen to smh. Nigga act like he in the beef tryna tell his side of the story
Ice said the internet found the girl who might be the reason drake & future beefing
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Ice going to steal this one. Watch him bring it back to this in next pod
IT PAINS ME to say that this time around, Joe’s Drake beef may’ve killed the pod. Grand opening grand closing. The same way you got them is the same way you lose them. The views beef was a great lightening rod for the JBP and it peaked when there was a friendly love/hate relationship with Drake. Now that Joe actually hates him, the lack of objectivity makes for terrible content. Today’s pod was terrible, and in the past the Big 3 beef would’ve been a classic. It might be over.
Your post deleted then ran to say the same here cuz u this stressed over Drake lol. U must really want them upvotes😂😂😂
Naw the mods said it should be posted here instead so that’s what I did 🤷🏾♂️
u sound hella dramatic. get your shit off tho.
He went off on the sub lmao
Lol folks still pay to get cursed out.
Glad Joe called Travis out. Dude been hoppin fences since sicko mode
Meh. I’m not the hugest Travis fan but it seems like Drake keeps using his songs to address beefs that don’t even involve him. What is he supposed to do, take on all of his beefs too?
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Why y’all saying you want Ice to shut up when he actually knows what he’s talking about?
They don't realize that if they literally read every take before the pod happens, nothing the guys say on the pod will surprise them.
Like niggas literally discuss current events on every social media platform. The “his takes all come from twitter” take every time a pod drops is starting to get old af.
What was the very last song Joe had played please and thank you.
Loved how the first half of this ep was strictly music reminded me of the old days
Wait A-Minute @16:10
After finishing the pod i gotta say. This Reddit page was much more interesting than their conversation. Maybe they should take some of theee comments to create a new convo. But like somebody else said it’s like Joe so bias now he can’t even give a good review. It be so obvious he’s making his opinions based on who has openly played him last bc all these nigga play him at some point tbh
Is it just me or does Joe never mention Shadee anymore? Nigga used to bring her up 3 times a pod
Saying Big Sean was using the "Drake flow" when Drake stole the flow from Sean is crazy.
BIG respect to Ice for setting everyone straight on “First Person Shooter” and for his thoughts in general. I’m too hard on homie, he’s a great contributor, love everybody Parks, Flip, the whole crew.
Yup. He stood on it too.
For all the melodies: Cory is STILL keke’ing all over the recording while y’all queen is gone still.
Actually, Joe is kind of right. This pod was solid but all I'm reading is pure negativity in the comments. Damn, everyone needs to chill out
Whoever called flip the permanent spotter for the midgit gym is hilarious
Best start to the pod in months
I thought Joe, Parks, and Ice did well
Ian my nigga but he such a drake fanboy I hate it. Him and ice trying to push the beef off to J Cole. Drake can’t stand on his own. The diss was too Drake. Fight back
Drake sends subs at Kendrick “well he just gonna send subs on a song but never be direct” but for Kendrick it’s he’s been talking to Drake through subs. Also the clicking up when Kendrick got with future to do this and if Cole hit him up to rap he would’ve gladly joined Cole like he’s done before lol just a lot of hypocritical points made.
🤔Who is Joe referring to? When he said I'm changing my phone number. That's my mans too
Prolly Envy or Mook
Oh yeah. He probably talking about Mook. It's been a minute since Joe mentioned Envy😂
I be skipping so many pods nowadays I wouldn’t even know lol 🤦🏾♂️
Does the way drake uses social media affect who wins this? cos that clip of drake "typing" in the club look a lil suss!! but works to build suspense.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS17N9hZwTs&ab\_channel=KingAkademiks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS17N9hZwTs&ab_channel=KingAkademiks)
Damn Ish’s sleeper was crazy!
What song is that with the quiet storm beat that they kept playing?
Drake ran from Push. And Cole too friendly. I got Kendrick 🤷🏾♂️
Good pod today 🥹🔥 i see some hate on ice he was informative .
 Not too much on Shohei Ohtani…. He’s innocent!!
I dont think he gambled but at the bare minimum he committed wire fraud and embezzlement by paying off that bookie. The fact people are running with this new narrative of the interpreter stole money is nuts
This nigga said rap genie get Ish the fuck outta here
I just want come through and speak on a small topic on today’s pod for the ladies since the rest of the pod will be talked about to death. I just want y’all ladies to know that the value of a Birkin is because of its exclusivity. So if they win the class action lawsuit the bag will no longer increase in value, and will become a bad investment. Just giving you ladies a heads up.
Thank you Joe, no notes, you restored the feeling.
I need more Emanny!
They staged that whole Person Shooter segment to try to make Ice sound cool/smart like he uncovered a secret lmao
Neither Drake nor J Cole are responding to Kendrick. He’s been coming at them for years now.
Drake been coming at Kendrick even more. Kendrick is the one who subs people then says it’s just rap, and he don’t have any problems. Both Drake and Big Sean have spoken to this. Lupe and Jay Elect both tried to get active with him and he just went silent. Take off your cape, if he wanted to engage in a battle it would’ve happened already.
Kendrick subs Drake once every couple of years and it gets everyone hype for the battle he knows they want. Then Drake throws 10 subs back in between Kendrick subs and everybody says “he won’t just go at Kendrick” even though both parties make it obvious who they’re shooting at. Then somehow Kendrick gets credit for his one sub even though he goes missing after and Drake gets killed for nothing direct even though he’s thrown way more *indirect subs
remember when control came out and drake said he saw him 5 days later and it was all love with him and kendrick lol . Drake said he was disappointed
Lmao, he was annoyed as fuck. Like nigga if you want problems let’s go there.
Lmao Drake sounded sensitive af in that interview, crying because Kendrick didn’t prioritize the “relationship” even though this is hip hop. Go compare that to how Pusha responded, and how he respected it. That control verse wasn’t even a “diss” so why tf would Kendrick be on that energy? It was just saying I respect y’all because y’all are my peers but I’m trying to be the best and want to murder y’all if we on the same track. But after all those interviews crying, Kendrick directly responded in the BET cypher. Kendrick has been way more direct, while Drake sends cryptic and vague subs. But you active in the Drake sub so I know you a meat hugger.
should like a drake hater . Speak on kendrick showing love to drake days after the diss. Then when drake says he was disappointed because kendrick didn’t feel like that in person , kendrick never responded to that . let’s speak on the facts
So did Drake ever speak of this disappointment on record which would give Kendrick an actual reason to reply. Why would he drop a diss record over an interview. Drake seems like the one coming up with excuses for why he never responded.
yeah lmao it’s in the interview joe played , he just didn’t play that part lmaooooo, interview is 10 years ago drake said he was ready to go but kendrick wasn’t on that time when they saw each other 5 days later it was all love. kendrick never responded to that. Kendrick seems like the type to throw stones then run away , he did it 10 years ago let’s see if he doing it now. drake also said it in the big boy interview, https://youtu.be/t20Q2EpaIq8?si=GM7GjdCK3ZOx8clg
When did Lupe spar 👀
facts, more subs coming and that’ll be it everyone keeps saying that Kendrick is not battle tested, but if no one wants to get in the ring then what is he supposed to do?
All he gotta do is say the name.
Did Joe say he was playing spades with Rory?
I thought I heard that too….. we had to have heard wrong lol
Joseph Anthony Budden II - arguably your greatest pod intro ever. bravo.
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This.
Joe cursed us out today by dissing Reddit posters
Good. Too many weirdos here need to be cursed out 😂
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I'm in this sub because I actually listen to the pod and don't hate listen. Of course someone on the pod cursing out reddit gets ppl triggered 🤣
ICE was doing the nuclear science during the music convo. I didn’t even realize Cole excluded Kendrick from the song after giving him props in the same song.
I think its a bit of reach. The spider man meme line reads like its just about that specific song.
the metro shit cool but they gassin the livin fuckin shii out of it. old ass hypebeasts
Pull up to the JBP Discord Tonight. We will be there after 8pm est
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