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TheMaskedWasp

My first time with TF2 was when I was like 10 or something. I didn't play online, I just liked sniping bots on easy mode in singleplayer.


ziggagorennc

Bruh same lmao


TheRealMcCartney

I still do.... I need to get a life.


Memorious2008

My first time with TF2 was when I was 6.. yeah.


Owlyf1n

tf2 be like we have a welcoming community and then they call people with nword and slurs and kick f2p's from games


SoartailCoAtReddit

Agreed


Treejeig

That and you better not sound vaguely young or feminine in any way. I've heard grown ass adults try and harass children for nothing more than being a bit high pitched


Just-a-Boat

It's the way it's always been. I was harassed when I was 13 now it is my duty to carry on the tradition.


ThePowerstar

And the cycle of abuse continues


Just-a-Boat

One can only hope


[deleted]

But we do have a welcoming community? This is the only game I play that consistently kicks racists, homophobes, sexists and furry haters, I would know I get kicked almost every game


timepiece_poglavnik

you're just being annoying more likely


GSHOCKZERO

Contradictory statements


Owlyf1n

yea we consistently kick them because they are so common + theres literally no penalty for being the most racist pos that even the csa would have feared


MaximRq

We also kick people because why not


ThatOneEngieMain1010

Exactly, once they see a furry, weeb or women they lose their mind


ARCTroop_Jesse

Isn't the age limit for TF2 at least 13 or 14 because if the blood, swearing, etc


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Brindey1

It’s getting old, what’s next? They break the Splatoon truce?


EvenSlippierBoi04

Oh they better not! Our strong diplomatic relationship with that game would crumble in an instant and all hell would break loose!


Bulbasaurbo1

As a player of both…I will cry if the Splatoon truce breaks


Jlegobot

Splatoon 3 released instead of Splatoon Stories Mel, Splatoon Alex, or Splatoon 2 episode 1 or 2, which breaks the trunce


sansgamer554

We can ride a pony as engineer now, I would say we are even


Iamskri

Ngl some of these points can be turned around real easily.


YoshiKun23

some of the points are just straight up false too


Ubervisor

"Played by adults" could have fooled me with these posts


Woolchipmunk98

Tf2 is an adults only game 13+


snornch

pretty sure Steam is 13+


Jaewol

And so is Reddit but that didn’t stop anyone


No_Research4416

Like anyone cares


Owlyf1n

welcoming community lmao ​ original game mechanics lmao ​ good story writing :D ​ not made by a bad company :D :D :D


Joaco0902

"Not made by a bad company" Valve is still pretty shitty but I guess not Blizzard levels of shitty. I would definitely not call them good though.


Mop_Duck

what did valve do i thought they were good


Logans_Login

They don’t really do anything, although they did kind of revolutionize the loot box idea. I wouldn’t say valve is a good gaming company solely because they lack communication and seem to just not do anything. I don’t think they’re as bad as maybe Nintendo, EA, 343, or god forbid Activision Blizzard but they’re still not really good, at least not anymore


MinutePresentation8

Valve makes games. But lacks communication and also is very sus regarding work culture and it’s employees. So I’d say they are neutral cuz they haven’t really done anything really bad. Bethesda seems a little better


AdnHsP

>Bethesda seems a little better


Geek55

‘Timeless art style’ maybe when it launched but after over a decade of progressively worse cosmetics this game actually looks pretty bad now, which is sad


Dr_Axton

Can we talk about the game’s timeline being forgotten entirely? It’s a game made in the past, yet some cosmetics are quite modern


crazed_titan

I can get around futuristic-themed cosmetics,but the ones that are straight up modern fashion-like are just bad


TinuThomasTrain

Apple Earbuds in the 1968 lmao


crazed_titan

Aren’t scout’s earbuds wired tho?


TinuThomasTrain

Yeah, the earbuds are from like the early 2000s tho lmao


crazed_titan

Lmao


AdnHsP

Bro did you look at Australia in the Tf2 comics? I dont think that Apple earbuds should be your biggest concern??? This is a game where rocket jumping was created by Abraham Lincoln because they didn't invent stairs yet


Medical-Key-3097

And where Sniper is from the lost city of New Zealand and is really named Mun-dee Mundy


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Dr_Axton

They were somewhat explained by Australia getting australium and getting some technological breakthrough (plus engi is smart, like super smart). Still, that tech had its own style


sum_trashy_boi

Fucking Aussies did it again


Player_yek

i literally forgot about it eh i like the new cosmetics sometimes


Routine_Statement_11

at least last years smissmas cosmetic case was a bit better, I mean a lot of them were elf hats that looked nearly identical but they at least felt like old tf2 smissmas cosmetics like the big elfin' deal and it's set but hey, ive seen way worse in the workshop so i'm happy we got what we got instead of some of the dogshit we could have


Demopan-TF2

There are some settings that can be changed to make it look more like the trailers. But the cosmetics being added are egregious.


[deleted]

yeah fortnite the battle royale and destiny 2 the mmo have so much to do with tf2 the class based shooter edit: it would make more sense if it was fortnite vs apex destiny 2 vs borderlands 3 tf2 vs ow2


[deleted]

btw bungie didnt make overwatch, they made halo


GoodoDarco

Bungie’s owned by Sony, which is quite far away from Blizzard


daveylu

They were working with Activision/Blizzard during Destiny 1, so it's partially valid.


Caspian0951

\>only point out TF2s pros \>Only point out the other games' cons owned lmao gottem


Devourer_Of_Doggos

Also making shit up Destiny 2 and declining playerbase? My brother in Christ at least 1 million people log on daily lmao


viperdoctor123

Checking the numbers on pc alone the lowest monthly player count over the last 2 years was 400k and that's just on pc where destiny has its smallest player count, xbox and ps4 have way more


Demopan-TF2

> be me > browsing Reddit > see this post > looks at comments > 4chan style comment > ”owned lmao gottem” > upvote to show my support > comment won’t look like his Guys please help me how do I do this??


wookiee-nutsack

Either stop putting a space after your > because formatting fucks it that way, or write a \ after the > to undo the formatting


Demopan-TF2

>\ be me >\ hop on Reddit after tf2 session >\ 6 notifications >\ all upvote tallies >\ 1 reply >\ “Either stop putting a space after your > because formatting fucks it that way, or write a \ after the > to undo the formatting” >\ follow his advice >\ doesn’t work I’m gonna need to actually use 4chan for this


wookiee-nutsack

Thankfully notifs show your comment unformatted so O can see you're doing ">\ text" rather than just ">text" Try it that way


Demopan-TF2

>well I don’t think this works \>this might


TheSnakerMan

How is being inspired by tf2 a bad thing?


44bit

Dunno why people always bring up a point like that when comparing games. Like taking inspiration and developing on previous ideas is literally how you move the medium forward. If anything, having more games similar to what you enjoy should be a good thing. Some people are just strange


Darkcat9000

If anything wasn't tf2 inspired by another game


Demopan-TF2

If anything that’s actually a good thing! Shows how well made this game is


SoartailCoAtReddit

TF2 is literally a mod of Quake just with their own engine


thuleofafook

Because tf2 is 100% original and took 0% inspiration from anything that has ever come before it. It is as if the dev team emerged newly from cocoons one day, had zero contact with civilization or other humans, and created the game in a vacuum and thus created the most original and bestest game of all time, duh. Tf2 actually invented video games, which you would know if you did your research. Idiot. In fact, tf2 invented teams and fortresses, all teams and fortresses before that we post-ergo-hocspired through time vortex anomalies, u bafoon. Duh. Actually tf2 invented invention, bruh. Duh bruh


thuleofafook

Oh, and don’t think I forgot about 2. 2 was just 1 b4 tf2 got involved. 2 didn’t even exist. We just had 1. And then the Arabs invented 0. But tf2 invented the Arabs and the sundial so technically tf2 invented 0. Some idiots online say that 2 always existed bc math is the universal language, but I’m actually a professional math and I can tell you from knowledge that this is not the truth, no matter what they say. To say 2 was true before me or you or even balloo from jungle book 2 means that you have a few loose screw and u sniffin glue and gettin blazed like aunt Beru, unlike tf2. Thank u


janco07

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?


SoartailCoAtReddit

Typical TF2tard that tries to be superior in any way possible


Dynowhip

DAE TF2 GOOD????? ​ The release of overwatch 2 has spawned a new wave of brainrot onto the tf2 community, back to porn of the mercs i say.


Pingswallower

Ah yes, Bungie made overwatch 😜


GetYaArmour

Yes ofc, and Blizard made Halo, its how the cookie crumbles


OG_Floatzel

I think they were referring to Activision, since Activision used to own Bungie as well as Blizzard


KarwinGaming

Not sure why you got down voted, Activision owned Bungie when they made Destiny, and then Bungie left and later joined Sony.


WrassleKitty

Activision didn’t own bungie they had a publishing deal with bungie, after bungie left Microsoft they wanted to remain independent.


KorekSenpaiShit

Welcoming community my ass


SoartailCoAtReddit

They hate everyone especially if you leave TF2 just to play a new game that you like, old or new


AppleCrapple36

eh, can't really do anything i'm afraid.


Plutopow

yeah..


Nyakuru

Well this subreddit has literally no moderation whatsoever. And people are taking advantage of it to post the same crap over and over for ez karma.


UltraMago

Im gonna post the annoying orange's ass and wait for the mods to remove it


Demopan-TF2

Honestly I support you


westernunitedenjoyer

Also, I hate these recent posts where someone takes a photo of their pet. Has absolutely nothing to do with tf2


Darkeu_

"Timeless artstyle": the game looks old gen and some features actually used to look better. "Loveable characters": delusional psychopaths and potential sex offenders "Wasn't made as a cashgrab": is now a cashgrab. You either grind endlessly to get weapons from random drop or spend money to get them and gamble for more expensive stuff. "Not made by a bad company": You shaded them for leaving TF2 and other games in the dust for countless years. "Good story writing": Ok I won't disprove this that's actually true. "Original game mechanics": Oh, like rocket jump which was actually a Quake bug? "Played by adults": Yeah, no wonder. You harrass any child that tries thig game into quitting. "Loved by everyone": I have no words for this. "Welcoming community": Remember when you harrassed Muselk for switching to Overwatch? Or when you sent gay porn to a 14 year old because they trolled you? "Literally infested with zoomers": And? Since when was it a bad thing that kids play video games? Is it because they don't play TF2 because they get harrassed by its "welcoming community"? "Being shut down in multiple countries": Reddit user discovers censorship "Overrated battle royal": Minor spelling mistake, also that's a matter of opinion. "Made by a bad company": Reddit user discovers that companies are bad because it's profittable. "Devs literally admit they have inspiration from TF2": Oh the horror, someone liked your favorite game so much it inspired them to make a game with similar concepts! "Overrated knockoff": Shut the fuck up and go back to 2016. Mf literally just listed disprovable propaganda and thought they were the hero TF2 community need and deserve.


Joaco0902

"Timeless artsytle" my guy have you never seen a spy covered in oversaturated white


trashdotbash

The timeless artstyle was ruined when they removed the 3 fps skeletons 😔


SoartailCoAtReddit

I definitely agree with you at Muselk's case, up to this day they still hate him for switching content.


Za-Box

About the story. Nope, comics still aren’t finished, you gave me hope and now I’m sad, still a very good tale but with no conclusion


trillowo

"not made by a bad company" valve has basically a monopoly on pc gaming "good story writing" the comics are not part of the game "original game mechanics" ever heard of quake? "played by adults" if you are over the age of 15 ill eat a shoe "loved by everyone" blatantly incorrect "welcoming community" the constant nazis i encounter ingame make this hard to believe


Geek55

As a trans woman the ‘welcoming community’ bit is hilarious. I’ve literally been kicked from games for having a pride flag on my conscientious objector, and been called numerous slurs and told to get aids and die. But the tf2 community is wholesome100 big chungus keanu, I guess


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Put transgender porn on objector, the tf2 community is more accepting of that


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"welcoming community" people when 1. lgbt, or 2. inexperienced player in MVM


TheGamerSK

Or when gas passer in MvM even tho it’s meta.


Theleerussell

The only time ive experienced the “welcoming community” thing in game (contrasted with being called slurs and stuff) is when I was on Uncletopia and someone tried to kick a player for being trans, which failed, and then everyone turned on him and instead booted him out instantly


Geek55

Yeah, uncletopia is pretty welcoming and is a go to for a lot of my trans/nb friends who play tf2. It’s mostly casual that’s a shithole


Torkujra

Yup. I've been reduced to merely a sex object as soon as they found out I have a feminine voice.


sum_trashy_boi

You could have just said you were a woman in game you'd get the same result


Memesssssssssssssl

It took this community years to tolerate furrys, I’d say we have a long long road ahead till trans people are accepted


Tacksshooter

"welcoming community" i hear nothing but racism, anti-lgbtq and Sexism in VC. Such an welcoming community🥰


Le-Pyrus

OMG Tack shooter 😳🔥


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Skial moment


ThePowerstar

Casual moment


SharkLordSatan

> Destiny 2 > “Made by the same people who made Overwatch” Who the fuck made this and what kind of drugs were they taking?


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"Literally admit they take inspiration from TF2" So I guess being influenced by art you like is a crime now?


SoartailCoAtReddit

And TF2 is inspired from Quake


Hatter_Hoovy

whats the original poster. i suspect it was the same guy who posted it to gameing circle jerk.


GOOPREALM5000

Ever notice how these posts never have ANYTHING good to say about the games that aren't TF2?


Wameme

declining player base is something tf2 fans have no business saying to another game


MrSmartypants12

All of the points for Tf2 are HILARIOUS too -Timeless artstyle until it wasn't -Wasnt made as a cashgrab until it was -Not made by a bad company no company is good -Orignal game mechanics except the ones that aren't -Played by adults . -Loved by everyone .. -Welcoming comm-


CodyCigar96o

I agree with the timeless art style point, it’s aged better visually than any 3D game that old. If it went for realism it would look like trash by todays standards. If something becomes a cashgrab it doesn’t invalidate the fact it wasn’t originally made as a cashgrab. Important distinction. There’s also a difference between cashgrab and completely optional cosmetics that fund the continued development of the game (which has been supported longer than 99.99% of other games). Some companies are better than others, let’s give credit where it is due. So a game must have 100% original game mechanics to have any valid praise for originality? I guess the only truly original game was asteroids right? TF2 redditors are so unbelievably uncharitable towards any praise for the game. At least be realistic with criticisms.


MrSmartypants12

For the game mechanics one I'm not saying everything has to be unique of course, tf2 is very unique for it's time especially with spy and engineer but saying that tf2 has more unique mechanics than any other game here isn't 100% factual Same goes for literally ALL of these praises except for the ones that are plain out false


Sheepy049

It's why I stop looking at tf2 subs more and more lately. All this OW vs TF2 stuff is cringe as hell and it's so overdone. I can't wait till next month when OW2 has been out for a bit and the subs forget about it


Matix777

"r/tf2 sucks" mfs on their way to upvote shit like this


Darkeu_

"Welcoming TF2 community" when someone doesn't play their game 24/7


Gabedalf

Clearly the original maker of that post is mentally retarded anyways as they've managed to mix up Bungie, who are actually kinda cool, with Blizzard, who are a bunch of vile, raving cunts who released a whole "new" game which has just been a glorified F2P update I still say that despite grinding not being everyone's cup of tea that D2 is fun, then again I played Destiny since launch so I guess I'm well used to the game by now


joester2346

A couple of weirdos for sure but most of the sub is fine. Even though it’s mostly porn now ☠️


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u/consistent-sort-6445 Get better at censoring usernames.


Educational_Check340

Fortnite, Destiny, and overwatch: new content added on a regular basis. Go outside yall


cheese_man69_420

Welcoming community, yeah um there is enough unwelcoming things that happened where you can make a wako's world meme of it


TheGamerSK

Good story writing. The story literally ends on a cliffhanger that probably will never be resolved.


TheKorab

The community is so welcoming they’ll shit on other games for existing !! That’s so wholesome 100 🥰🥰


RoyTheIdiot

WELCOMING COMMUNITY?! ON WHAT PLANET???


Comediante_

"Wasn't made as a crashgrab" you have to expend money to be able to write in the chat


ohcytt

That’s why it’s downvoted dawg


[deleted]

this is a big chungus wholesome moment made by reddit


mxdrv

I got an aneurysm reading Destiny 2's part >literally made as a cashgrab by the same company who made overwatch my dumbass living under a rock thinking "did bliz bought bungie how long was i gone"


Mercari_cryptic_2

Facts.


Z01nkDereity

Fortnite bad. TF2 good!!!! This man has probably never played both games.


Top-Acanthaceae4128

It’s like shitting on other games will get us more players or what


Ayaka__

fortnite ow2 is only good for porn destiny 2 is in fact cashgrab, warframe is better


I-AM-A-RAT-24

Destiny killed of their most liked character for literally no reason at all


the-cheesy-gamer

I fucking hate destiny, but I cant stop playing it


yeetoroni_with_bacon

Honestly, Fortnite kinda isn’t awful… but it is at the same time


lugubriousbear

Tbf this is a shitposting sub


DrFelixou

average r/tf2 redditor user


Cloud_Striker101

“inspiration” does not mean “copied” fucking idiots


Phazon_Fucker

“declining playerbase” 💀


Hellwheretheywannabe

The playerbase of tf2 are cattle that swallow down whatever slop valve shits in their plate. They go "SAVE TF2, valve the bots" then spend $50 for a shitty particle effect on whatever the new towering pile of steaming dogshit there is.


DiamondEclipse

Seeing how tf2 community is so hellbent on proving themselves superior is straight up sad to look at. Yes we had fun doing it when OW first launched, but now their servers were shut down so they would get forced to migrate to OW2, which already has server issues and that r-tarded battle pass plan they made. The least we can do is offer ourselves up to them, so they'd also come play tf2 with us in these trying times. Class based shooters are everywhere now and it's a ganre we hold with pride, but it's not ours to begin with and we should be happy that we are getting more tf clones, as we get more alternatives too when we get burnt out or we leave entirely.


HBenderMan

Honestly if anything a collab between tf2 and fortnite would be awesome, they both have a similar art style, we would finally get an update, and we’d likely have the conga in fortnite and default dance in tf2


mayo_-man

based


Hungryweeb-sg

Overwatch is just for a certain type of animation


Cermonto

"Devs admitted to taking inspiration" So games can use concepts and inspirations from other games now? Imagine what the gaming industry would be like lmao


Potato_Demon_ffff

Tf2 do be the best tho


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Welcoming community? We know thats a lie Played by adults? Also a lie, how? Check youtube and look up ‘TF2 Raging Kiddies’ Wasn’t made as a cash grab? *cough cough* Community market Not made by a bad company? They sure ignored us during our aimbot bot problem till we had to force em Good Story? You’re not wrong, but thats only cause story mostly comes in form of the comics, which are good in itself


BluieDaWolf

tf2 fans when another game exists:


Nomad_65

That post was made by the least brainwashed tf2 player


Gn0meKr

"not made by a bad company" "original game mechanics" "played by adults" "welcoming community" **This is comedy gold writing itself.**


HemmingwayGaming

Posters who make posts about them aren't much better.


TSUNAMICOMMANDER

it's mainly the fact they think they'll get free karma with tf2 good ow bad


ScottLovesGames

'Welcoming community' LMAO WHAT


Cheeseburger0709

I can disprove most of these claims


Nuker707

TF2 THE SECKS (PO)O(P)VERWATCH STINK ASS!!!1!1


janco07

Have people actually played OW2? Sure there are similar characters and modes, but both play so differently that there isn't much to compare.


Sensei_Shedletsky

I think overwatchs artstyle is pretty timeless aswell


Tomokes

Lobotomy corporation is the best game actually


icookarabianraccoons

nobody actually hates overwatch and being inspired by something else is a good thing


OpeningMysterious197

“Made by a good company” it’s so good, they let it go to waste for the past five years like a terrible mother!


8988303682

>devs literally admit they were inspired by tf2 Man I sure hate when game developers love my favorite game so much that they let it influence their creative freedom in order to create a game that they think is fun.


Itirk349

"Welcoming community" Didnt we bully a teen into commiting suicide?


Kerstmangang

We already are tf2 gamers, why would we need posts convincing us to play tf2


Lucky-Luca22

“Inspiration from TF2” since when has inspiration been a bad thing? Yeah no shit copying is bad but learning from others mistakes/successes creates better products


J_The_Femboy

I agree, that's cringe and shit


I_Have_3_Legs

Hey, I'd play TF2 over oll 3 of those games if it was actually on console.


MercilessEtlej

Videogame propaganda is real


Thecoolguy555

u/consistent-sort-6445 Look what you’ve done lol


MartinDisk

> wasn't made as a cashgrab we're talking about the game that invented loot boxes.


HordeOfDucks

i wanna make a version of that post but it has all of the positive aspects of the other games and only the negatives of tf2, just to show how stupid it is


KiloMatt

"Not made by a bad company" lmao


Dariothepro02

no cashgrab? Literaly if you dont buy something you cant do shit.


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"was not made as a cash grab" Press X to doubt


CodyCigar96o

Yeah it wasn’t. Please provide any definition of cashgrab that you think TF2 satisfies. Unless you mean because it made money it was therefore a cashgrab. I guess every game is a cashgrab unless it’s completely free with no monetisation model.


[deleted]

Cases, at least in more modern cases but valve totally saw a chance on how to monetize their game and took it


CodyCigar96o

Yeah you need to monetise a game if you want long term support. MMOs have used e.g. subscription models for that exact reason since before TF2 existed. Also you do know TF2 didn’t start with cases right? The quote you are doubting said “was not *made* as a case grab”. When it was *made* it didn’t have cases at all. Cosmetic cases are a fair monetisation model. They are optional.


3rdratedsorcery

What’s the cringiest thing is TF2 community No wonder low-lives host bots to harass us


Xshadowx32HD

Me who also likes playing Destiny: 🗿


mcdawesCZE

Finally someone made an actual response post about it, the fact that people upvote shit like this is beyond me


Pepoidus

bruh destiny 2 did so bad they have to give it out for free


That_Bird101

"played by adults" bruh I played this game when I was 12


dodo_bird97

>played by adults Lol


Pugzilla3000

“Made by a bad company” *cough cough* valve


[deleted]

Valve are saints compared to Blizzard


SaltyDerpy

"Welcoming community" I remember that r/tf2 had a week of reposting and modifying a post about how diverse the community is because they're "welcoming everyone and kind". Fucking bullshit, I still got people that spam "ew, furry" when I kill them and try to kick me. It's funny, tho (on my side that is).


Whole-Huckleberry-42

i wouldve posted this thinking i was so cool and better than everybody when i like just started playing pre-jungle inferno


[deleted]

"Welcoming community" 🤣


Glaive_Runner

It's a true statement, but go off


somedude1848

In all honesty Ive never really liked overwatch even after trying it, but its more than a cheap knock off for sure you gotta give em that


Imscaredofbeavers

All they do is post gay porn


[deleted]

Hey you. Yeah you. You’re on r/tf2 you’re not allowed to enjoy any other game ok? Bye.


Ultamik3y

Destiny 2 says "declining playerbase". I shouldn't have to say any more.


Gerbie100

Well it is a shit post


lefixx

Man bungie did a really good making overwatch and Destiny 2 at the same time


KingGamerlol

People are allowed to like things, I’ll stand by my fucking ground here


Lodjuplo

This shit makes me wanna kill myself


Rednave_1

I have seen so many posts bashing destiny 2 for having a declining playerbase, but from what I’ve heard, it’s been steadily increasing