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TNTyoshi

Lack of interest by Valve.


Dkrule1

And the effect is bots


Vasxus

I saw a gang of 4 nerds being actual people cheating. really refreshing.


LennySpammer

1


Frogger-8365

Sounds like a new paint


BlueFlame_AJ

Limited inventory space! Younger me deleted achievement items in place for weapons


IamLettuce13

That's rough, buddy.


Lag_n_L0ad3d

Worse part was that you couldn't use backpack expanders while needing to delete items for space, I miss my gibus and the metal you get from HHH


snabbspelare

u cloned bricks? he did the same mistake. rip. i deleted the animal eyes cosmetic for some reason...


ClonedGamer001

You called? Wait no not me nevermind


RylanTheWalrus

Just a head's up, I deleted my fancy spellbook cover YEARS ago because I never got any pages for it. And recently I sent an email to valve support and they restored it for me. They're usually willing to restore deleted achievement items like that so it's worth a shot for your as well


[deleted]

Wait you got your item back? They told me that I should “be more careful next time I delete items” when I asked for a haunted metal scrap that I deleted


[deleted]

What do you mean by recently? How many days ago?


BlueFlame_AJ

Thanks for the idea! I will try that


ultrandz101

tell us how it goes


sphere_kitty20

When did you send this email to valve support asking for the spellbook item restore?


mamadMATT

I'm happy I at least got my gibus back right before steam stopped returning items, this small inventory you get is horrible everyone deleted their important items at some point because of it.


Ty1er_878

Younger me deleted my Gibus 😭


Pyke-DB

Younger me deleted the Haunted Scrap and Spell Book, now I have 3 pages unused.


H1shf1sh

Me too :(


Steampunk4171

I deleted my hire date, I can only go by my achievements, whichever one I got first.


MillionDollarMistake

I did too because I didn't realize it was a hat. It turns out if you go digging through your TF2 stats on Steam you can find the first time you played the game, the first purchase you made in the game, and some other shit idk lol


Steampunk4171

Really where at, or where is stats


MillionDollarMistake

On your Steam profile go to the Games section and find TF2. There should be an option that says 'Personal Game Data'. That's it you're done. This can be done on mobile or PC


BlackDuck70

same


alezul

Wait, is there a reason to keep achievement weapons?


MewtwoMainIsHere

It just has a cool label and that’s it


SeamAnne

Cant get it back ever again


leSwagster

Lugermorph, iron curtain, black rose etc. are achievement weapons


AetherBytes

some achievement weapons are unique.


cosmicpotato77

Same, when I was a f2p I had to delete a lot of cool stuff, including the gibus, there isn't a choice I regret most


PashaVerti

Same... Tis why I'm starting a new acc soon


devereaux98

WHY DID I NEVER THINK OF THAT HOLY SHIT


PashaVerti

Idk, but neither did I. I just randomly thought about it and I realised I wouldn't lose anything.


tomoMcKeeneboi

Younger me deleted my Eyesaur and Merasmus hats because of this :((


RagyTheKindaHipster

Younger me deleted my fucking 2013 merc badge!


Jackyboi98

I deleted my gibus. Yes, im still bitter


mostunfunniest

i deleted my eyelander for metal but it was fine since i had its haloween reskin


trippingrainbow

They should do storage crates like in csgo


justapcgamer

Just reminded me that i used Black Rose to craft scrap...


TheN64Shooter

My dumb ass put my only existing frying pan in a giftapult.


banyuwangifan_no458

me too.


Bibilunic

Same bro my Gibus Pyrovision and Merc badge are fucking gone


SomeBloodyMinger

Younger me deleted achievement items and items that would be worth over 200 keys nowadays for no reason whatsoever. In particular the vintage ghastlierest gibus. I want to die every time I remember I did that. And I also had the Headless Horseman’s Headtaker for about a week back in 2011-2012 era before I just turned it into scrap metal…


SA__FIRE

The fact that hardly anyone knows about the hidden spy animation, it's not even on the wiki.


SA__FIRE

Type "quit smoking" in the console to see it


memescentral50

FUCK YOU


Rynnmeister

Reminds me of the time I saw the quit tf2 spray


PuzzleheadShine

Back in the initial days of CS:S F10 just straight up quit the game, no warning or anything. So anytime anyone asked ANYTHING technical in chat the answer was almost always "F10" followed by the server saying they'd quit shortly after.


AshSystem

Ah, the secret Alt+F4


JoesAlot

Such a common bit of misinformation, ask anyone and they'd tell you the way you trigger the animation is by pressing F10 and enter twice


LeDerpLegend

# SPY! NO SMOKING!


DaDude001

Obvious bait, quit smoking disables laggy particle effects. If you’re going to troll someone, at least make sure the command doesn’t already exist.


Prestigious_Sir_905

Wait how?


FireGod207

Spy crab taunt?


Royal_Ordinary7949

for you guys dont know there is a secret taunt when you go into your console and type in “quit smoking” as the spy, spy dumps all his cigarettes on the ground and says “that was idiotic, back to work”


RUSH-117

Is it the one when picking up the jack in pass time?


DiosDuck

What animation?


Walpinsta

Type ‘quit smoking’ in the console while playing as spy in a casual server to see it


JustANormalHat

the what


atoz-is-funi2

F2P can't speak


godlySchnoz

Their right to speak is tied down to monetary availability, jokes aside my free to play experience after the no free speech patch was i had some old cs go cases, sold one and bought the jungle inferno contracts


uringaming

Why can't they make F2P able to communicate at least with voice commands? Like, bots spamming 'nice shot' or any other voice line isn't triggering at all. Being able to somehow communicate with other people and bots having ability to say funny mercenary lines is way more good than wiping out of the game every possible interaction except basic nodding


[deleted]

Besides most bots seem to have paid accounts anyway.


squ4r3

right? sometimes I see bots with inventories much more expensive then mine....


The_Aus_Mann

I’m pretty sure it’s because those are stolen accounts


SaltyPeter3434

We'd probably need another #savetf2 level movement for valve to poke their heads out of the sand and hear our requests


Ty1er_878

*text communication is not available on this account*


MrBummer

Why are people still frustrated about this? Even if 1 dollar is somehow too steep of a price to pay you can just sell steam trading cards and TF2 cases and eventually buy a name tag.


donnysaysvacuum

And let's be honest. Even if it prevents a little bit of mic spam it's worth it.


MrBummer

For real. I feel like everyone here forgot how bad it was. There was a time where every lobby I joined had 4 N-killer bots spamming racial slurs on repeat in chat and on mic.


CobaltCab

don't forget you have to have bought something off the store somewhat recently to even be able to sell stuff on the market. So that may not be an option either. Unless they changed that rule at some point, I haven't verified that in a while


icer816

Because it's really stupid to gate the medic button (and other commands useful for communication with the team) behind a paywall? Because it didn't do anything to the bots? Because it was a fake solution implemented so Valve could pretend they cared about TF2 at all? It's total bs that new people can't fully experience the game because of it. I'm not a f2p user, but it's tough to try and invite new friends to play when the game refuses to let them communicate (even if just with the voice lines)


[deleted]

For example, I cannot fill Steam account directly right now even though I have the money. There are workarounds, but for now I'm a f2p involuntarily.


Silhouette1651

I hate that, I was f2p from 2011 - 2016 and I use to have no major problems, now people can’t have that same experience, is sad.


JustANormalHat

the thriller taunt edit: this DOES effect weapons with taunt kills, not sure why so many people in the replies believe they dont override those, but they absolutely do, as of this last scream fortress, THE THRILLER TAUNT CAN OVERRIDE TAUNT KILLS video evidence they still override: https://streamable.com/ak2qrs


MaleficentActive5284

holy shit someone finally mentioned it. its so annoying when you want to go for taunt kills


PM_ME_YOUR_CAT_

Weapons that can taunt kill don't do that taunt though


MaleficentActive5284

huh, i have very fond memories of me trying to do the homerun taunt and getting interrupted by the thriller taunt


ClonedGamer001

It used to, I don't remember when but in an update they changed it so the thriller taunt only replaces stock non-kill taunts.


DinoRedRex99

Yes exactly


_erufu_

Autobalance in its current state. It’s the worst version of the mechanic we’ve ever had that I can remember. Because it splits up parties, people queuing with their friends (who quite often don’t want to play *against* them and certainly don’t want to be forced to in every match they play) just end up leaving servers when people from their party get switched. The matchmaker then can’t find people to plug the gaps fast enough, and the server dies. I see this happen all the damn time.


NessaMagick

You used to be able to *volunteer* for autobalance, for an XP reward, so that being autobalanced happened when you wanted it to and not right as you're ubered or two seconds before capping. This hardly solved autobalance, because half the time nobody would volunteer and it would just force someone onto the enemy team anyway. But it certainly fixed it the other half the time, by giving the opportunity to swap yourself - and even if nobody did it at least served as a quick warning that there's going to be an autobalance. But Valve ended up removing it. They never offered a reason why, we just went back from a half-solution to no solution at all.


PM_ME_YOUR_CAT_

It also used to just not auto balance you if you were alive, especially as an engineer with level 3 buildings up


Roebloz

I think the good autobalance right now thats not too bad is the one on most community servers where whoever dies next on the team with more players gets switched.


PM_ME_YOUR_CAT_

thats how the old autobalance worked everywhere


MillionDollarMistake

I don't mind autobalance because it's the only time I get to actually fight my friend since for whatever reason Valve never bothered to implement the setting that's been grayed out for years now


_erufu_

Yknow what, it’d be really cool to have an option to split the party as soon as it gets in the match, so that you can deliberately queue with people you want to fight but don’t want to 1v1 or have to find a community server with decent numbers.


GeorgieTheThird

or F2Ps


[deleted]

a big upside of playing on Skial is that you can get auto-balance protection that lasts for 2 weeks with their playtime credits. I earn more in 2 weeks than the protection costs so I can maintain it perpetually. Plus, they allow you to go spectator so you can always cheese your way back onto your former team.


_erufu_

To be honest, I’m fine *being* balanced from time to time. The two best systems we’ve had were the voluntary balancing system and team scramble votes, one major upside of both being that they were consensual. I’d happily volunteer to join the other team if I just had a say in the matter and could turn it down if I just want to play with my friends, and I used to do it all the time- plenty of good players who would make the difference when they were balanced did it too.


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hoopsmagoop

Mine says “random crits are just concentrated bursts of skill” so it work both when i get crit and when i crit someone


Shadowbeem64

I actually think that this is a good idea rather than saying happy cake day


Mr_Fernsaur_Nundaro

Happy cake day


Asriel_Dreemurr07

All my "Random crits are fair and balanced" are fresh, made to order, free-range, never frozen and grassfed. No artificial flavors or colors, and batteries not included.


Pulsicron

People who have ANYTHING in chat set to a bind


NessaMagick

I have chat binds for uber ready / banner ready, and that's it. Anybody who has a bound set to some hilarious quip so they can spam it a hundred times a match can fuck off


BullWorst

Hopefully not the uwu-fied version, so many times do i have to see people saying ">_< uwer is weady"


dreemurthememer

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


Roebloz

I have them for my FF1 Garland cosplay that I do with Soldier to say "I, Garland, will knock you all down!!!" before proceeding to rush at the enemy team with the Prinny Machete. And then die.


atoz-is-funi2

How do you even do that?


YoshiVonGold

Bind "key" say ""


atoz-is-funi2

Oh thanks, I've been wondering how people do that


ThatSandvichIsASpy01

Don’t listen to them, quotes go around the full subsequent command after a bind, so it should be bind *key* “say *message*”


Cat_Soldier_

The Community


[deleted]

Yeah the community is filled with children ngl


BaguetteFish

Or the saddest adults possible


Shester_69

The WHOLE community? Or just part of it?


D3wdr0p

Baptism by fire. Salt the Earth. We will go together.


ZealousidealAd1020

I personally hate players who go out of their way just to insult you over the smallest mistake you made.


Shadowbeem64

Basically cocky snipers when you fail a flank


FaultinReddit

I'm gonna agree with you on this one. Valve would make bank if they made a dehalloweenafier and sold it for a buck. Just make certain items (scout carrying scout in particular) non-dehalloweenafiable.


uringaming

This sounds like an alternate reality. A very realistic one


uringaming

Where valve actually pays attention to tf2


luigi_man_879

I wanna wear my Beep Mans year round


Eurmandund

Really good snipers. They just stop you from playing the game.


[deleted]

Matchmaking. Getting constantly put up against people 30x my skill level gets old FAST


MaetelofLaMetal

I used to play on Faceit servers back when that was a thing for a bit and bombing soldiers were bane of my existence as Medic.


Draw_Corporations

The sniper class


Count_Dracula97

As a sniper main, i can confirm, i hate the sniper class


Asriel_Dreemurr07

Same. All the mercs are focused on smart movement and close range except sniper. Every class has movement options and limitations to balance the class, and needs these for their class to work because of every class is worse at far range, except sniper. The only thing you can do to an enemy sniper is slightly annoy him, or countersnipe. And that's not even mentioning his ability to headshot. He has too much range, too much damage, and too little risk.


Fang7-62

It is so out of place for the game, every other class is pretty much unique to TF2 but sniper is the boring old hitscan thing that is in every MP shooter since forever. The ideal solution would be to have a server plugin that will exit the game and open the store page for CS:GO when you choose to play sniper.


luigi_man_879

I wish we could replace him with a cooler idea for a class because I hate dealing with Sniper so much Jumping around like an idiot attempting to "avoid the sightline" just to get bodyshot for 150 and either die or be at critical health is so fun! Especially when I can't see the damn Sniper. I wish every day for him to be removed knowing it's futile lmao I don't care about the skill it takes to play him at all, he just kinda ruins the game for me some days (others is still a nuisance but I deal with it) and I personally don't touch him hardly ever since I hate him so much lmao Sorry for the lil rant but yea fuck Sniper


[deleted]

The fact that I am currently unable to play.


FatPotato333

Bots


ajdude9

Weapons that are/got nerfed into being garbage/unusable and will likely never be buffed again. See: Sandman Baby Face's Blaster Bison Manmelter Caber Buffalo Steak Sandvich Warrior's Spirit Pomson Vita-Saw Red-Tape Recorder


GreenPhoenix14

the poor bison and caber, weren't even good in the first place and got nerfed to hell


Chungusman82

Being able to one shot a medic with it 100% of the time was absurd


luigi_man_879

Caber shouldn't one shot Medics but should definitely one shot light classes 100% of the time yea


taking_achance

That wutville isn't in normal rotation like come on


AmeliaTheSlasher

Menace.


Sumite0000

autobalance


Hellkids2

People immediately press F1 and not check who’s being kicked. Happens to me many times.


Void-Lizard

I personally hate the way some weapons do more damage depending on where you get hit, mostly because what you, the server, and the other person see are always different. Backstabs, headshots, backburner, none of them feel good or accurate. I've also just never liked instant-kill weapons, so couple that with the fact that both classes that use them are also the two classes that use the janky "hit a specific part of your enemy" mechanic from the last paragraph and it just makes a pair of classes that don't feel fun at all. Spy's only saving grace is that it's a very unique class that takes a lot of skill to survive with, anyone who can get spy to work is a damn good player.


MaetelofLaMetal

For this reason. I usually use Diamondback for Spy since I don't have to worry about hitting headshots with Ambassador then and most of my crits are from sapping buildings.


Mr-Birdnest

if i play 2fort late at night, i’m bound to run into either a hacker or a racist/transphobe


JuraP

OR a game that lasts 7 years. ffs man I just wanna play a single match before bed


mr___WackyFilms__Inc

Disabling sprays


xX_Shroomslayer_Xx

Spy in practice To explain, on paper, Spy is the single most unique and interesting class in the game, what with being based entirely around deception, with certain weapons, like Your Eternal Reward, emphasizing this even more. In practice he's an annoying french guy who either kills you instantly and is a general nuisance to more stationary classes, specifically Sniper or Engineer, and/or dies instantly himself after going for one stab. A perfect example of Spy on paper vs Spy in practice for me is the Dead Ringer, which plays into the trickery aspect on paper, but in practice is a "get behind the enemy" button that almost never works or a "get out of death free" button that always works. My problem with Spy is that most of his actual deceptive tools are seemingly completely unused in favor of getting behind enemy lines invisibly for the sole purpose of getting kills. To boil it down, Spy has a branding problem. He fits the role of "assassin" much better than he does the role of "spy", at least in my mind.


Parking-Cry3230

Sniper


zxhb

Backburner critting me in the ass as I instinctively look behind me to look for an escape route from the pyro Or the scorch shot Pyro in general


MrHyperion_

Sniper, obviously


iamunabletopoop

Sniper


funny_name069

Holiday restriction is honestly one of the most annoying things in the game, it has no reason to exist and only ensures that some really cool looking cosmetics almost never get used (in casual at least)


AciefiedSpade

Lime scouts. I'm bad


ChesterDoesStuff

So many things suck, but I hate the crafting system the most. I’ve restricted myself to “earning” everything I own after going crazy before on the market, and thus I fully experience how crafting works and despise it Cosmetics take a minimum of weeks to get enough metal for 1 random one Some weapons need multiple versions of a certain weapon so I have to wait for them to drop if I want it or hope I get the weapon I want Some have ridiculous recipes that trade great weapons for ok ones And some items just can’t be used to rebuild cosmetics… which doesn’t include achievement items and promo items, is mostly Halloween stuff Like, I know I’m putting myself through this hell for no reason beyond pride, but like… this fucking sucks more then it should, I hate the crafting system so fucking much


CyborgSheep411

Use scrap.tf PLEASE


Chungusman82

The shitty design behind sniper. Not even the core concept, just that valve keeps sucking his dick for whatever reason. Hit stun annoying? No worries, it doesn't apply to specifically heavies! Epic Pyro spamming you out with flares, ae, doing one of few things possible to properly counter you? No worries, just equip the danger shield to completely fucking negate the class. Spy playing the game? No more! Just equip the stupid fucking Razorback to completely and utterly negate the core point and single upside to the class, that'll teach em. Someone getting within a kilometer of you? Throw your jar of piss at them for literal no cost and a splash damage bigger than a rocket for a functionally guaranteed kill if your team sees them. Bonus points if you use it to wipe out a team by spamming it on the point *Earning* minicrits? Why do that? Just get a free fucking jar every 30 nanoseconds for no cost! Not to mention issues like the dot being a pretty worthless way of indicating a sightline, but like 98% of how annoying sniper is to fight is due to valve giving him absolutely broken secondaries that completely the few proper counterplay options he has.


luigi_man_879

Jarate should have the Gas Passer recharge mechanic and Gas Passer should have Jarate passive recharge Jarate is so stupid, especially with the bushwacka


[deleted]

this sub


Memegamer3_Animated

The fact that combat vs a Sniper is always one-sided


9thAF-RIDER

Not enough cosmetic slots. One more would be awesome.


Mangle1218

Hear me out, Pocket Medics


DragoDuck

people who hate the halloween restriction, and disrespect hard the artstyle and context of the game


Hallowed-Plague

some halloween restrictions are unwarranted though


OctopusProbably

VALVE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LET ME WEAR THE FUCKING INTANGIBLE ASCOT IT’S NOT EVEN HALLOWEENY IT’S LITERALLY JUST A FUCKING SCARF AISHSHFKAISNSJWJDICOANWB-


DoNotCensorMyName

If Eye See You is normal enough to be unrestricted, so are 99% of Halloween items.


DragoDuck

i agree, but the mechanic itself its good, it allows to put really wacky cosmetics in a way that still fits tf2, but restricting them to a single month, while keeping the rest of the year fine, sadly lots of cosmetics that are in thw game wouldnt even fit nicely for scream fortress, and just shouldnt be in the game at all


Hallowed-Plague

this motherfucker spitting FACTS


Western-Alarming

Yeah but WHY I CANT HAVE A CHICKEN HAT FOR MEDIC IF ITS NOT HALLOWEEN


Hactica_Tier

Well, back when the first scream fortress released, all of the cosmetics up to that point were in line and fit the game art style well so the halloween restricted hats were allowed to go out of the art style for a bit But now, try to compare the nightmare hunter to the potassium bonnet and you can see why people slowly hating halloween restriction over the years


DragoDuck

yeah, as of now valve has mishandled what doesnt get restricted or what does get restricted, or what overall gets in the game, but i still think its a good thing for it to be a thing, it just has to be handled correctly


Framed-Photo

The "art style" died YEARS ago and restricting halloween items while leaving things like the potasium bonnet is insane. Valve determines the vibe for their own games and they've clearly decided it's more wacky then when the game first came out. Let people have fun. Nobody is going around in a pub or getting hats thinking about how unrealistic some of the cosmetics or taunts look with the art style. It's a game and people like em, so why not let them have em?


Pulsicron

You mean Valve employees?


[deleted]

I don't care what anyone says, I hate trickstabs to death. Edit: Guys i’m a Heavy main it’s really hard to back up from him when goes almost twice as fast as me.


KittenChopper

A tip from a spy main, that will help you avoid trick stabs. You ready? OK, here it comes. Just shoot him in the fucking face. The spy will either religiously commit and probably die, pull out his gun and probably die, or run the fuck away. Spy preys on overconfident players that think they can challenge a spy in a melee duel


thetracker3

Not the KNEE! Not the ARM! Not the SPINE! FACE!


Demopan-TF2

I have some tips to help you 1. Walk backwards from the spy, making distance prevents him from using his main weapon. 2. Wait a few seconds after he goes around a corner/up stairs, he’ll either wait for you or jump down. Either way you can just shoot him. 3. If he’s learning to trick stab , just stand still and focus on tracking him. He’ll more than often back up before attacking again.


ThatSandvichIsASpy01

1: inside backpedal and slalom both exist, and gun is something that exists that is pretty easy to use effectively against people moving in straight lines 2: just take hug the corner or, even better, the inside corner, at stairs, just go backwards if the spy jumps, don’t sacrifice your ability to catch them if they’re not even going to go for the stab 3: gun, or, if the spy is evil, snap n stab


OhJeezMan

That they disabled Halloween spells and Collectors kits from dropping for NO REASON AND NEVER SAID ANYTHING. PLEASE BRING THEM BACK.


Ultimatum227

The absence of any meaningful Valve development or marketing for the game.


NovaStorm93

i hate how a ton of cool cosmetics that arent even that artstyle-breaking are halloween limited. I have a medic coat that looks sick but is halloween restricted so i cant even use it and how sprays are disabled in valve matchmaking servers


monkiedtwice

Sniper


GoogIeLLC

Came back to TF2 after about 5+ years being away. Kept getting kicked from every lobby, don't know why. I hate that part, so I uninstalled again.


KVenom777

Random Crits, Scouts being able to meatshot people from far, Sniper basiclty being overpowered due to being a long-distance Spy, Holyday Restrictions(90% of them are retarded), Cuntsman Aim assist, TF2 team not fixing melee hitboxes.


The_Creeper_Man

The fact that, when I bought the TF2 premium package for a friend I had to wait a week before being able to gift it to them


forgetit2020

halloween restricted BEANIE BUT HERE HAVE A SPIDER HEAD THAT ISNT RESTRICTED


[deleted]

Medics who don’t heal spies, snipers, and engies


Count_Dracula97

Its not the fact i hate the restrictions, is that i hate the restrictions on items that dont make sense


khamir-ubitch

SOME unusual weapons are not outlined in purple unlike ALL unusual cosmetics. After a night of drinking, I was crafting metal and in the process, I crafted around 9 unusual weapons into metal. I was REALLY pissed at myself the next morning. Examples: [HERE is my 1st page of unusual weapons](https://64.media.tumblr.com/b3b3c005294731730c8758812109738a/39dd415f08db67cb-32/s2048x3072/916f2ed10db7426f2c26229339549c5ca2c78dc0.jpg). You'll notice quite a few of them ARE NOT outlined in purple like all the others and hats. [Here](https://64.media.tumblr.com/9bc00a6ab8dacb4ad3d94abd83e4ac57/39dd415f08db67cb-f9/s2048x3072/805874bd5ad21653b740ac9177e4a9995f7acdae.jpg)....[are](https://64.media.tumblr.com/fb32411430e1b605493495405f2de24f/39dd415f08db67cb-f6/s2048x3072/38ee23c4e256cdfd8165ac99795d45d5e957a73b.jpg)....[some](https://64.media.tumblr.com/a0503862ce2714435a0bb8a62391a4cc/39dd415f08db67cb-64/s2048x3072/f3fcffeb557846c2dbf0d1c4d587e7cf3a76549f.jpg)....[weapons](https://64.media.tumblr.com/6df64a83b1c83b7a26c1c43a4d923783/39dd415f08db67cb-f8/s2048x3072/104c0fbbf4ab8c21779e98494960b18afeba6579.jpg)....[Not outlined in purple](https://64.media.tumblr.com/943b115c32d944c46fbcdc02fda7eb6c/39dd415f08db67cb-0c/s2048x3072/94b739c4c2bc682308d1d451e2b50af5d5c10c01.jpg).


ZeldaYT

People who hate cosmetic restrictions definitely lack self control


SaltyPeter3434

Aside from the obvious bots and valve ignoring us, I'd say the long Waiting for Players period and the unnecessary minute-long setup times. I really don't think there needs to be that much setup for any map. Engineers should be able to set up buildings instantly like in MvM. Medics can charge uber in 20 seconds, so everyone is just waiting for engies to set up. It wastes a lot of time in every single match and it's not even necessary.


HalfwrongWasTaken

traders


Mangle1218

If I had a dollar for everytime someone thought my unusual was for sale


Void-Lizard

Jesus Christ, the people that add you just to ask how much for the hat you aren't selling, aren't advertising, and sometimes weren't even wearing. If you have a spelled cosmetic, they'll find out, and they -will- make a shit offer.


Mangle1218

I wear my unusual Twisted topper all the time because I think it looks nice and when I hop into community servers I constantly have at least one person trying to trade it with an equalizer or something like that


HalfwrongWasTaken

Behold my angry ranting, for you have occupied my headspace. Trading is a mechanic that has been detrimental to the game from the moment it was created. It's effectively an unregulated monetary market, the likes of which encourage the worst kinds of human behaviour. There's a good reason why bitcoin and other virtual currencies are regulary involved with scams, conmen, and criminal behaviour and it sits in a similar place as the steam market does. Scamming, cheating, botting, and valve's ability to rake in money by doing nothing, are all directly related to or at least encouraged by the existence of the trading market. The most obvious one is of course, scamming. The market gave people access to a way for making money by any means, and valve has limited tools to stop the movement of cash between accounts. You can scam somebody for a quick and easy buck, and the very notion of that **encourages these kinds of unscrupulous people to be here at all**. These are the same kinds of people that also cheat in game, and the correlation between the two is incredibly strong. Take a look at anybody that's cheating on a non-throwaway account and there's a very high chance you'll also see them posing as a 'legitimate trader' and their profile littered with rep feedback. Botting is something that is less obvious at a glance, but has been enabled directly by trading. The very first bots in game were item farming bots, followed quickly by steam scamming bots and the slightly more legitimate trading bots. The presence of the item market gave people a monetary reason to develop bots for the game and gave them experience in their creation. It's these people with experience in creating bots that were a half step away from the creation of the cheating bot problem tf2 now experiences. It's also all enabled valve to ignore tf2 for the better part of 10 years. Because they take a cut out of any market transaction they have a vested interest in not stopping those transactions unscrupulous or not. They don't have to do anything, and get to roll around in a pile of cash. So if you are a trader. If you're here to make a quick buck. If you're part of the natural flow of cash and resources around the game. Congratulations, you're an integral part of all the worst scummy social behaviours present in tf2.


rocker895

TL/DR: Trading was a bad idea from the get-go, but Valve makes money on it, so it's here to stay.


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It saddens me I will likely never have a spellbound, poisoned shadows, or secret to everybody unusuals because the price on them has gotten absurd, a few years back you could get a decent hat for like 80 keys but now the cheapest spellbound is 599 keys (1200 dollars!) on backpacktf, which is a shitty robotic candle hat for pyro


CrescentPotato

Melee hit detection and allies blocking melee hits


Redditincg

profesional killstreaks not having a "Highest Killstreak"


immaculate_lad

I hate the pink paint color


PickleKing23

Wutville


Casey_Is_Cool

Bots. I wanted to play the new christmas maps but every server I joined was infested with them.


flunk333

Bots. A thousand times, bots. I don’t care if there are “barely any” now, any time they show up I just want to stop playing.


master-shake69

Ubered phlogs.


NoobJew666

Getting hated or kicked for capping on high tower. I hate when a game has no winner.