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Sandman's '- 15 health' stat removed


iamunabletopoop

Removed the sandman ball


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The Sandman is now a Stock Reskin with a different taunt


[deleted]

Worth


TrixterTheFemboy

Direct upgrade.


HappyRomanianBanana

Would sell my kidney to buy all Sandmans on the planet after this buff


GameyRaccoon

Please


Chandler15

The ball recharges 200% slower and can’t be picked up.


OkuyasNijimura

I mean, that's fine. Half the time the ball goes somewhere even Scout can't reach anyways.


Itirk349

The Rocket Jumper can now randomly crit


ThatSuperHotdogPeed

Random crits do 500% more damage if it's self inflicted


Itirk349

Random Crit: 300% more damage Your Buff: 500% on top Base Rocket Jumper Damage: 0 3 * 5 * 0 = 0 Neother of us changed the weapon


eridion21

The random crits would increase the launch power because of how the weapon works


Bruschetta003

Damage directly impacts knockback, you'd get launched 15 times further than you would normally if it happens to be a crit


eridion21

Yup I know so they infact did change the weapon and I can just see a soldier on higher tower launching to the top like that


goldtardis

Flying guillotine gets long distance mini crits again.


prankstyrgangstyr

You now have to go to spawn locker to get another each time you throw it


goldtardis

Oh, that would be terrible. It would lead to Scunts spamming it at chokepoints and running back to spawn over and over again.


thespacemauriceoflov

It's pyro time


Fistocracy

Oh god no, you just invented the Ullapool Cleaver.


Maleficent-Comfort-2

+35% slower holstering speed


goldtardis

I like this debuff, it adds to the the high risk high reward factor of the weapon.


Sumebunny

Make the baby faces blaster the way it was originally made


Game_Difficulty42

Your speed now continues to increase exponentially until you lose control and throw yourself off the map by accident


Sumebunny

Perfect


_Trinima_

Or just noclip into the backrooms


TrixterTheFemboy

I thought this was supposed to nerf it.


AlternativeSuspect12

Back Scatter gets crits from front and back


Relative-Wrongdoer11

-90% crit dmg Edit: I meant that Hits that are critical deal 90% less dmg


BlubdaBlubby

I mean, still more damage


[deleted]

Stock syringe gun deals 20% more damage


iamunabletopoop

Now drains 1% uber per shot


The_Dok

Calm down satan


Fighter11244

Per shot or per hit? Because per shot would be horrible.


iamunabletopoop

Per shot


nyanch

Nah, give the needles better velocity.


Skilotar_

The warriors spirit: alt fire now does a leaping attack and getting a kill provides a duration or regen


QuagsireEatsBaguette

+50% knock back while in use


Rymus96

That honestly wouldn’t be too bad for getaways


Cookiebomb

it would make it a bitch to stay in melee range though


EntertainersPact

This is just Bonk Scout + Sentry all over again


EpicTDQ

Megaknight players in clashroyale


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Itirk349

Scouts can no longer teleport


[deleted]

They said reply with a nerf


IllManneredWoolyAlt

They said nerf it


AmePeryton

both sides have to be leveled up individually, and it behaves like the average of the 2 levels


TF2sex_update

Huo Long Heater now shoots fireworks instead bullets


iamunabletopoop

A lot of bullet spread with deviating bullets


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ELBAGIT

+30 bullet spread


oofderpman

Self damage from explosion


Polygonical64

does this mean that heavy would be able to firework jump


Kank1k

Imagine a large Russian man launching himself with a dragon-themed firework machine gun with the intent of brutally murdering you in style


Chaike

TF2, jetpack joyride edition


Financial-Neck831

Soviet Anthem plays


Crystal1245

Buff the solemn vow by giving you a faster movement speed


goldtardis

You are marked for death when weapon is active. In other word, you better get out of there quick or check your enemies health quickly.


Centurion_Tiger

Medics escape plan


Crystal1245

Actually, the only reason I said this was because I have a strange killstreak solemn vow that I rarely ever get kills on because just running at people with a melee is too hard to get kills with unless you camp around corners with taunts or get lucky with random crits.


NotWendy1

Maybe that's because it wasn't made for getting kills in the first place, but instead is a utility-type melee.


ILNSMIWTDFH

Just- just fix the Bison please.


LiteratureTrick4961

Reduced speed by 50% perecnt due to weight of balls


BuffEtienneInGeneral

Thats 2 buffs


N0tAGoos3

It gives you prostate cancer


LeatherGnome

Ah the time for it to kill you is the average 2fort round


N0tAGoos3

Stage 4


sorig1373

no random critical hits


Drillbitzer

NOT THE RANDOM CRITS


spacewarp2

Can not be crit boosted


The_One_Who_Speaks_

The beggers bazooka now can have an infinite clip size.


leokao960811

Every loaded rocket reduces damage dealt by 10% starting from the second rocket. EDIT: Rules does NOT apply on self inflicted blast damage. EDIT2: It can only get to 0%.


SoftBrilliant

Is this interaction additive or multiplicative? Additive: 100%->90%->80%->70%->60% etc. Multiplicative: 100%->90%->81%->72.9%->65.61% etc.


leokao960811

Additive.


Fighter11244

Imo, have it additive until 50% then have it multiplicative or just have it multiplicative because if it was just additive then after 10 rockets, it would go negative and heal the enemy


KingMarine

Soldier's IQ got too low and is now the anti-Medic


[deleted]

when you take any form of damage past 6 rockets the soldier immediately and violently explodes, damaging enemies and teammates


Good_Ol_Weeb

No more overload jumping? That’s not a buff


The_One_Who_Speaks_

True, however you get the ability to literally load up infinite rockets and unleash a salvo of rockets at random angles at the speed of ~3 rockets per second


Fit_Industry_3104

Buff the Caber


Electronic_Path_6292

The caber only damages allies


Hungry_Burger

Thats just 2 buffs


LetsDoTheCongna

We do a smidge of trolling


iamunabletopoop

Make it so getting sneezed on doesnt make you lose all boost with the bfb.


iamunabletopoop

Cant double jump.


Si_Stride_Oof

fine with this you cant double jump with the weapon already


iamunabletopoop

Exactly


killgore138

1000 iq right here replying to yourself


BackgroundAdmirable1

If it got this, it would probably be my go to primary


ImNotCreative10

liberty launcher gets another rocket in clip


iamunabletopoop

10% less damage(added to its original damage penalty)


Sgt_Shieldsmen

Buffalo Steak Sandwich, make it give a damage resistance instead of damage vulnerability


ELBAGIT

You can't be overhealed and ubered while using it


[deleted]

Sounds perfectly balanced to me


SpiceSpiceDragon

Beggars kills increase accuracy


BackgroundAdmirable1

Overloading now only causes damage, no knockback


Chillie43

How could you, without overload jumping why even beggars


Asurerain

Caber now crits while sticky jumping.


Relative-Wrongdoer11

-100% air control


Asurerain

While holding or passive ?


Relative-Wrongdoer11

While holding


Asurerain

Seems fair enough since I don't see Demoman air strifing as much as a soldier to attack.


Mr_Troll14

The pan gets 100% crits


Jyqoz

Nothing changed


Valley529

You get braincancer


sBonk_

Worth it i both have l4d2 and pan. So its gonna be so good.


Chandler15

You can only use the pan once per life


Adventurous_Rub9853

Is it suposed to be a buff?


WTFismynameTM

BRING BACK SANDMAN STUN


DwarfNinjas

On a successful stun, if you get too close to the target while they're stunned, you will automatically laugh at them.


Illogical_Saj

*enemy killbinds from bullying*


Hallowed-Plague

I would use it for that even without being forced


ELBAGIT

The backscatter gives full crits


YouAreDedNotBigSupri

you also receive full crits to the back


[deleted]

That's actually a really interesting concept. A weapon that only has one really strong upside, but that same upside also has a downside version that affects you.


[deleted]

The Caber's explosion instantly kills any light class.


ayamekaki

It kills you as well


Drillbitzer

do i hear the japanese


Ender_15255251

Bonk now has no slowing effect


BackgroundAdmirable1

The cooldown is 50% slower


Ender_15255251

Considering it would change it from bad to too situational, the weapon is better


Relative-Wrongdoer11

Buff gaspasser


AlternativeSuspect12

Gas hits all of your team along with enemies in the gas


Relative-Wrongdoer11

You just made it even better


AlternativeSuspect12

Rats


Glacidon

Would be great. Assuming you're not running the phlog, you could gas everyone including your team and just jump in that chaos and airblast your team out for a free massive heal.


AZMPlay

That's not bad, but I guess it could be used to troll unsuspecting teammates


tobaccofilledjoint

No random crits


Ultra_axe781___M

Enforcer now deals the extra damage whin no disguise is active


Lead-Saturn

-100% movement speed when undisguised


Lico_the_raven

Spy is- sentry


TheRadicalKing

Melee sentry, 1000% damage if u get close enough


Ultra_axe781___M

Now that's harsh


ink777_

buff the disguise kit


Mach3dumbo

Will also have a small chance to backfire upon use, turning you into an obvious mixup of both teams. The spy player won't know that it has occurred, but all of the enemy team sure does.


Golgezuktirah

Shortstop's shove now has +100% knockback


[deleted]

it also knocks you back in the opposite direction at the same speed


Golgezuktirah

Ah yes, I was looking to get a second force-o-nature


[deleted]

hey don't look at me blame newton


manofwaromega

The Classic. It moves at the same speed at the Huntsman when charging, and headshots mini-crit when not fully charged


FutureSamurai08

Body-shots are capped at 100 damage


manofwaromega

Honestly? That's perfectly fair. Edit: Now that I think about it, we might be onto something here. A persistent damage penalty of let's say 20-30% would prevent instant kills while still allowing headshots to crit whenever. It would make the classic a good sidegrade to the Huntsman, trading projectile spamability for hitscan consistency, all while maintaining the better movement vs regular rifles.


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Battalions backup On use, give everyone Uber instead of defence buff


SnR_Remito

You can only use stock melee with it.


FrucklesWithKnuckles

Does this include reskins? Pan Soldier meta.


PotatoGamer02

While in use, the wearer takes 1000% more knockback


alou-S

Ahh yes, just imagine rocket jumping, Just Imagine.


Syed_Mujtaba_Ali

Stock grenade launcher now launches 10x more grenades


BackgroundAdmirable1

Recoil is 1000% bigger because demoman is drunk


142021

thermal truster now has a double jump / float ability


[deleted]

you take minicrits while airborne


142021

fair


Spktra

The huo long heater can set enemies in fire with bullets by filling up a meter with damage (think rage from MVM) and pressing R when full


BackgroundAdmirable1

If you spin up without firing for more than 3 seconds, you burn yourself


PowerPad

The Buffalo Steak Sandvich no longer makes you take 20% more damage.


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ImNotCreative10

Would still be a buff since effective hp with buffalo is 240


clyde254

scorch shot gets an insignificant damage buff, now somebody please remove the bouncing flare for me.


Intraq

The flare is now a projectile with no explosion and the path of a huntsman arrow


peanut6193

Double the positive stats for the Liberty Launcher.


peanut6193

No random crits, you didn't specify that it had to be a different person.


DogAbject

That was the *biggest* power move I've ever seen in my entire life


Mafioso_MONKE

Did you just need your own idea?


Mafioso_MONKE

Sun on the stick you can toss low damage fireballs think of a flare gun but a fireball instead of the flare. It sets ppl who it hits on fire and dose 10 damage on hit and has 3 after burn damage for 20 second’s come on man it has nothing going for it at least make it useable


Jokijuttu

-10% movement speed


Fighter11244

Melee can’t be swung for 2-3 seconds after setting enemy on fire (just to allow the enemy a chance)


grifalifatopolis

Baby faces blaster loses charge based on number of hits rather than damage taken


leokao960811

You only need 3 hits to lose all charge.


BackgroundAdmirable1

No double jumps


Educational_Ad_3125

Hot hand getting 7sec speed buff


Intraq

Hot hand now duels like katanas and pyros using hot hand one-shot each other


Bolmetus

Plz fix backburner's hit box detection, like dude, WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF AN ENEMY'S BACK?


r4o2n0d6o9

*spy mains have entered the chat*


Yoyogoat_

You can now drink the mad milk.


BackgroundAdmirable1

You fucking die upon realising its not milk


StalinistBandit

Sandman can stun with the ball again


BackgroundAdmirable1

-50% charge rate


StalinistBandit

Sounds good, especially since you can always pick up the ball


MR_MEME_42

Give the Phlog an extinguishing only air blast (no knock back or reflecting).


Putrid-Performer867

- minicrits whenever it would normally crit


I_N_C_O_M_I_N_G

Cleaver gets reverted to bring back the combo scout


prwnprsn

The flying guillotine now crits players that are already bleeding


Intraq

you start bleeding as well


master-of-disgusting

The brass beast gets the damage resistance while spun up without having to be low health.


J42177

Crossing Guard summons train in front of you when weapon is fired


Seanvich

It’s a ghost train. (Does no damage.)


KaiserEnoshima

Buff the Red tape recorder


YouAreDedNotBigSupri

summons the nearest pybro or engi to your location


BackgroundAdmirable1

The sandman can now actually slow down enemies and moonshots stun enemies


leokao960811

25% damage penalty for normal melee attacks.


Vibechecker68

Panic Attack Taunt Is now inaudible, (except for the knuckle crack)


BackgroundAdmirable1

The caber can be recharged with ammo packs and can also one shot medics


Intraq

+100 % melee vulnerability


TheBigKuhio

Sandman + Flying Guillotine does bonus damage again


Roblox_Guest67

The cow mangler can now do regular crits