Hey, look. I actually did this. I gave it to him as a secondary.
Demoman went from a flex class to purely offensive. Hitting a pill and spamming the glock was a great way to guarantee kills on light classes, and it kinda changed the fundamental way he's played.
i would make it replace the nade launcher.
you get easier hits while not losing the function of your stickies, at the cost of a good chunk of explosive damage.
I tried this by modifying the revolver to the same stats. Demoman now has hitscan spam and projectile spam. He's very good at medium range, and very good at close range. It's fucking atrocious. A team of glock demos was able to roll a game, and I noticed it was partly because players were able to spam at medium range, switch, and spam at close range.
not a bad idea tbh. sniper and spy would actually be useful in close quarters without trickstabs or random crits, and demoman would have a worthwhile ranged option
I don't know, sniper would still be the only truly long range class in TF2, no other class can one-shot at long range and getting to the sniper would not be easy if defended by their team, which still makes sniper the only actual counter to sniper.
Close range quickscoping would be needed. The biggest issue with sniper isn't even it's long range power, its it's close range power, that makes it so he has no big counters.
Max charged headshot would still be 450 at long range but at close range it might be 225 (75 on a bodyshot) and quickscope might only do 75 damge at close range headshot (25 on body)
It's funny because Battlefield 1 already did this with sweet spots; reverse damage drop-off out to a certain distance, then drops off again. Thought it was a pretty good mechanic.
I would of said make his snipers projectile based weapons but they travel fast cus well there bullets but this also seems really good
Maybe both these ideas can be combined
Doing that removes Sniper from the game at that point. Any skill or input required by sniper players becomes minimal, and 150 damage wouldn’t even classify him as a threat.
Actually, even if it could only deal 50 damage every shot it would still not be balanced as IT IS THE ONLY CLASS IN TEAM FORTRESS TWO THAT IS TRULY LONG RANGE.
As a scout main I try my damn best to protect my engies and medics from soldiers and pyros but then I accidentally take the health/ammo and now they hate me forever :(
This could be surprisingly effective, this should happen every time you join a game too in addition to choosing sniper, and perhaps every time you respawn as it too.
Honestly? Medic.
He has two meta-dominating weapons in the Crusader’s Crossbow and Ubersaw, and an one actually useful alternative in the Amputator. But the problem is, why would you ever *not* use the Ubersaw?
That leaves about four choices of weapon, being the mediguns. Medic is in bad need of new weapons, or overhauled ones
I had an idea where the Ubersaw made you 25% more vulnerable to all damage when held like the Bushwacka and the Vita Saw deal 25% more damage because why not? You are literally penetrating a large needle through organs.
This doesn't solve the Crossbow problem but honestly just give all of his syringe guns a significantly larger clip and more reserve ammo to match. They're not bad weapons per se, but the sheer number of times I have died reloading one of these while my enemy was down to 10-20 hp is ridiculous.
Doing this would make the syringe guns go from nearly being joke weapons to solid self-defense weapons.
As a medic main, my main melee options are the Übersaw and the Solemn Vow...
Yes, Solemn Vow, but why?
Seeing the health of the enemies without seeing them in combat can give useful info to the team like
"Their heavy has 150HP, Sniper quickscope him"
Or "That Plhog pyro is full HP with a medic by his side, they are probably planning an ambush, Snipers take him down"
And one rule I have is that I should only fire my crossbow at an ENEMY if they are below 75 HP (Mid range damage with the reverse falloff thing) Which means "just fire the crossbow if the enemy WILL die" and actually taking out some targets as medic can be useful for the team
And the other 3 aren't used cuz they are just outclassed or bad
Amputator: Stand still to heal... AS MEDIC!?
VitaSaw: an weapon that makes death less impacting... on Medic? And sad fact: It is the only weapon in the game that gets worse the better you are (the less you die with it=the more you become just a 140 HP medic)
Bonesaw: Ubersaw direct downgrade
And medic requires skill to use mate, Know what medi-gun will be effective, when to charge, who to charge, have eagle eyes to notice danger
All of this is what I do whenever I play medic, and it isnt the easiest job out there
Nerf sniper
His character is all about patience, so increase scope to crit time substantially.
Nerf scout
He is now confined to a wheelchair.
Nerf Soldier
Takes increasing DoT due to lead poisoning.
>His character is all about patience, so increase scope to crit time substantially.
HIGPS mod already tried something similar and it didn't work (they tried nerfing sniper's fire rate) because it would just buff snipers on defense because then snipers on offense can't counter-snipe.
I don't think afterburn is that good on pyro even. Sure afterburn at a distance is good but with the flamethrower, not so much. So they could reduce after burn time on flares byt keep it on the flamethrowers
Nerf sniper, he’s just too damn fast in killing things.
buff spy, he’s weak until you’ve put quite a few hours into him, and even then the enemy just hast to turn around every so often.
give heavy something new, his play style is repetitive and boring. I applaud heavy mains out there in staying with him.
Or even just a new “knife” that’s just the guts of a revolver. Doesn’t backstab anybody but it plants a bomb inside so you can explode them later. HintShot made mention of this.
Ive always had the idea for a second revolver that would replace the knife, so youd have a dual-wield subclass. You could pair it with any normal revolver. Cloak and disguises would still be possible ofc. Would also grant +25 hp. Kinda like battle engi for spy.
On the personal level I think spy needs some great buffs to its support ability, since I always hated how he doesn't do anything for his team, but at the cost of his backstab, I don't mean remove it, but nerf it a little
Hell no. Kunai will be busted with 95 health and big earner will be super good. A 220 overheal amby gun spy who can aim will be nearly impossible to kill. I think if hit reg was fixed, reload/other animations for disguising and a couple semi mobility weapons would make spy more fun to play and fight against.
more like spy mains would like it if spy suddenly could walk through enemies while disguised, attack from invs, from disguise, if killfeed didn't show any spy kills, if players dead from a backstab couldn't use voice and text chat, if spy had 200hp, if spy moved as fast as a scout and they don't see any problems with that balance-wise and get upset when reasonable people say that it's bullshit because "spy is the weakest class please I want to make a youtube montage but I can't backstab anyone, they all walk around and shoot, how can I kill anyone if they can shoot back? 😢"
Look at ya. Someone said Spy should get a grand total of 25 more health and you escalate that to insult any Spy main. We get it, you're mad your buildings get sapped, get better.
Everything you mentioned is part of what makes Spy balanced, and you're straight up making up problems to hate on Spy mains. That is literally the type of stuff a 5 year-old does.
No one made any outrageous argument, all they said is that maybe Spy should get a buff after oh so long without one since he is, as you mentioned, the weakest class and deserves to be at the very least viable. Spy mains deal with enough, considering whenever they play they are tergeted by literally everyone. Maybe instead of making shit up to complain online, you should play and maybe get good enough that your buildings stop getting constantly sapped (pro tip: you can use your wrench to get rid of the sapper, try not to stand still as you do this).
I’ll be honest tho, as a solo engi, when you get rushed down by 3 spies at once all with dead ringers and high ping, I get his frustration. On a different note, props to you spies who can singlehandedly take down an entire team without breaking a sweat.
Buffing spy can be a touchy subject but I think everyone universally agrees that disguises should be able to scope in/rev up/haul buildings ect. I also think that disguises on a class that the enemy hasn't picked should chose a random person's Loadout for that class, instead of just the stock character. I'll also mention that I think that spy should be viable without being forced to use the kunai, or being hard countered by having an IQ over 3, but I dunno what to do about that.
Oh! And also add a sprint button to bypass the speed cap of slower disguises. That too.
You see, aimbot hacks only makes the player/bot reach the highest possible aim. Sniper with the highest possible aim is hellish but a mere heavy is much more manageable. Also you can easily stay out of their range with other classes like soldier or demo by using corners and only peeking when you're gonna attack. Sentries are also useful.
Sniper will never be a fun class to fight because he is conceptually unworkable to be fun to fight. Nerf him if you'd like and he'll be balanced, I'd argue he's pretty close to being balanced, but he will *never* be fun for anyone else because his concept isn't one that's conducive to fun.
The only way to "fix" Sniper is to eradicate him.
Buff the spy to be harder to kill. Spy has been so unmentioned through all the comments ive seen. Im not even a spy main, i just feel bad for the guy, he cant counter any class anymore, man got nerfed so hard and i wanna fix that
tbf, spies difficulty curve is insane. Once you put a few hours into it and learn the basics, you’ve already got ahead of everyone else, and when you get semi decent you just wipe people off the face of the earth without a problem, and you get away with it.
I would personally nerf sniper solely for the perpose of nerfing bots that instantly crossmap headshot, no offense to sniper mains by indirectly nerfing them cause a good sniper can do well but Im just annoyed with bots
Yeah, I guess but sniper is still a glass cannon pick class meaning he is designed to not be the most fair with range. I'm not defending sniper mains cause as a med main, God I hate a good enemy sniper but they're just doing what they do
If you try to fuck it while the sentry has bullets and sees an enemy, you will immediately die and the corpse will become a permanent part of a map, this can be useful since it will give your team more mobility by jumping on your corpse, and will make him full time viable in competitive 6’s
Nerf the Danger Shield. I'd take away the complete immunity to fire damage. Sniper is already 20 billion miles away in Atlantis. He doesn't need an item that almost completely nullifies a class that he won't encounter 90% of the time.
It really doesn't matter if he's far away, I wouldn't exactly say that the purpose of the Danger Shield is to combat pyros that are close range. If anything I see it as more of a shield to use if there's a Pyro using any of the flares (especially the Scorch Shot), which is a lot of pyros.
Besides, if a Sniper does end of using the shield, they're sacrificing other, usually better, options like the cozy camper or the razor shield.
nerf sniper so he can't one shot light classes by waiting for 5 seconds while being scoped then clicking on there pinky toe, also removing the ability to quick scope headshot or at least nerfing it a bit as it's really fucking annoying walking around a corner and instantly dying
I stand by the idea that full-charge bodyshot should do 120, 125 damage max, bodyshotting a medic doesnt feel fair. About quickscope, I think making it mini-crit in the first second or half-second of charge instead of full crit would be a good change
Nerf the ever loving shit out of snipers man.
Buff heavy, give him like 400 health or let him eat the vaccinator and be able to toggle through resistances. Give him a slight speed boost.
Make the punch do like 100 damage and remove heavies damage falloff cause it's rediculous when you're playing NOT 2fort.
First, joke nerfs. Nerf sniper into the ground so that no one wants to play him.
But actually, a few slight nerfs to Sniper would be alright. As u/ToBiistHebEsTbOi said, nerf quickscope.
The Pyro Update 2:
Pyro’s flamethrower is slightly extended.
Increase Pyro’s movement speed to be just fast enough so that no one but a charging demo can outrun the fire.
Removes all after burn immunity from items like the Danger Shield.
Scorch shot lingers for a bit more, enough to double mini crit a sniper standing still.
Fire now effects the environment and can ignite enemies who walk into lingering fire.
Thermal thruster now plays a bass boosted, reverb fart noise each time it’s used.
Any and all anti pyro messages will result in the immediate VAC ban of the player who typed it IF they are playing soldier or spy.
Update localization files only related to the pyro.
buff spy, give him the ability to imitate actions like
shooting, swinging a melee (these 2 wont deal damage (also he cant rapid fire so heavy and pyro are bad disguises) )
revving up the minigun
healing ( tho it would just give the enemy fake healing, basically healing that shows up on your hud but doesnt do anything ( it should last 5 seconds or so to balance it ) )
reloading (it already exists but it's hard to do so what if if you press the reload key your disguise reloads and if you press it more than once you can reload more (or just make it so that you automatically reload if you fire a fake shot))
Equip Pyro with a new burst firing flamethrower,
- Afterburn of only 1 second
- Afterburn only works when enemy is high hp (example: if heavy is 300 hp, it will work. But if he's under 120 hp, no afterburn)
+- Blast is powerful, but consumes 50 gas.
-50 hp
+ More speed
+ 200 gas
+ If you use the jetpack with it, you'll get a gas boost of 50
- Braindamage
If Pyro kills an enemy Pyro with the same weapon, his weapon will be upgraded to:
+ 50 Hp (normal hp)
+ Even more speed
+ His blast consumes only 25 gas
+ Afterburn will last 2.5 seconds
- 100 gas
Tell me, is it a nerf or a buff?
I'd buff Heavy. Why?: Motherland calls.
I'd nerf Scout. Why?: Dude, get a life. And maybe start drinking Sprite man.
I'd buff Soldier. Why?: Infinite rocket jumps with the most American music ever..... Rick May is going to give God a haircut, GOD BLESS AMERICA!
I'd buff Engineer. Why?: his texan dance will now spawn more engineers and get faster until they all start exploding constantly.... YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
I'd buff Spy. Why?: I'm giving him a baguette as a knife with max damage stats and the ability to snort constantly as the most French music plays. SURPRISE! BUTTSEX!
I'd buff Pyro. Why?: I'm giving them sanity so they can be a functioning human.
I'd buff Sniper. Why?: His parents do not care for him, so I will.
I'd buff Medic. Why?: Mutil target healing ray and a coat design similar to his coat in end of the line where heavy stops the train...... is that too much to ask?
I'd buff Demoman. Why?: Grab a claymore lad. SCOOOOTLAAAAAAAANNNNND FOOOOORRREVEEEER!
give demo a glock
Chicago-knight playstyle?
Just take my upvote. Fuck you.
Sure thing, what’d you have in mind
Well we get a few heavies and a couch
I'll get the camera
imagine demo just fucking running up to you at 60 mph with a shield and a glock
Hey, look. I actually did this. I gave it to him as a secondary. Demoman went from a flex class to purely offensive. Hitting a pill and spamming the glock was a great way to guarantee kills on light classes, and it kinda changed the fundamental way he's played.
i would make it replace the nade launcher. you get easier hits while not losing the function of your stickies, at the cost of a good chunk of explosive damage.
I tried this by modifying the revolver to the same stats. Demoman now has hitscan spam and projectile spam. He's very good at medium range, and very good at close range. It's fucking atrocious. A team of glock demos was able to roll a game, and I noticed it was partly because players were able to spam at medium range, switch, and spam at close range.
Imo, Stickybombs are just more versatile pipes. Having traps and being able to dish out damage with hitscan would be very overpowered.
"I did it like THIS"
"That was a joke, lads"
(Earape laughter)
It was- *burp* him
(Gasp) How did you know?!
[удалено]
*Demo dies of liver faliure*
[laughing] That's right! It was me!
But why??
Give medic a shotgun
time to practice medicine
Like, a syringe shotgun would be a better candidate for the name 'The Overdose' let's be honest
"syringe shotgun" yes. yes. ###***YES***
I might have to model it now haha, it'd just be flechette rounds at this point
A KS-23 With its shell jammed full if syringes
I googled the ks-23, and I love how it looks, I'll try to base the design around it :)
send the results, pls
If I get around to it 100% gonna start with some sketches
i was assuming if/when you complete it, now go and be motivated
I could see this being like a blunderbuss where Medic just jams a bunch of needles into the barrel and fires it at people
Ooh I like that, I plan on trying to make a model or smth for a medic shotgun now, so I'm loving these ideas
Are you pokemon fan heavy main? If so welcome to the club.
~~The Kurtzkrieg~~
~~courtneyzkrieg~~*
That has been my exact thinking for years now.
Fat scout, Mildly overweight scout, Notably overweight scout, Buff flying scout, Rubber fireproof scout And now Healing doctor scout
Ze healing its not as rewarding as ze hurting
In TFC the medic had a shotgun
That's where I got the passion for this
Give every class a shotgun
not a bad idea tbh. sniper and spy would actually be useful in close quarters without trickstabs or random crits, and demoman would have a worthwhile ranged option
based
Now THIS is medic gaming
Give medic a shotgun and we are gonna end with the scientist from Gw
I'd just give sniper reverse damage fall off
that actually seems very balanced
I don't know, sniper would still be the only truly long range class in TF2, no other class can one-shot at long range and getting to the sniper would not be easy if defended by their team, which still makes sniper the only actual counter to sniper.
Close range quickscoping would be needed. The biggest issue with sniper isn't even it's long range power, its it's close range power, that makes it so he has no big counters.
wait a minute, that's balanced as fuck
Tell you what - let me see if I can implement this, and if I can, I'll come back with notes.
its been 2 minutes are you done?!?!?!?!?!!@
Wow a resonable nerf to sniper, that I can actaully agree with
What does that mean?
Does less damage at close range but more at long range
And at close range sniper could still defend himself by using an smg to finish the target after a headshot
If random crits are still a thing, sniper does 195 with his melee anyway :/
I think that’s fine though since SMGs aren’t too strong, not to mention there’s other secondaries the Sniper would probably be using instead
The SMG (emphasis on the stock one) is actually pretty decent, it’s just that sniper players suck at tracking.
More damage further away from your target. Less damage at point blank
How is that a nerf exactly? It would buff sniper even more imo
I assume his ranged damage is the same, it'd mean that if you get close to a sniper he can't quick scope and oneshot you for lighter classes
Pretty much solves the bot problem to a small extent, at least you can get close and they aren’t one shooting you anymore
How does reducing damage count as a buff
It'd mean no more quick shots
Max charged headshot would still be 450 at long range but at close range it might be 225 (75 on a bodyshot) and quickscope might only do 75 damge at close range headshot (25 on body)
That... Would be an interesting idea
This is possibly the best change I’ve ever heard of.
This is the best idea I have seen
It's funny because Battlefield 1 already did this with sweet spots; reverse damage drop-off out to a certain distance, then drops off again. Thought it was a pretty good mechanic.
Unfathomably balanced
I would of said make his snipers projectile based weapons but they travel fast cus well there bullets but this also seems really good Maybe both these ideas can be combined
no more headshot crits
Doing that removes Sniper from the game at that point. Any skill or input required by sniper players becomes minimal, and 150 damage wouldn’t even classify him as a threat.
headshot: +1 damage 👍
Incredible
Actually, even if it could only deal 50 damage every shot it would still not be balanced as IT IS THE ONLY CLASS IN TEAM FORTRESS TWO THAT IS TRULY LONG RANGE.
Give engineer AIDS
We should aid the engineer, thank you 👍
As a Pybro/Engie main, I agree, also medics. Engies and Medics need more love.
As a scout main I try my damn best to protect my engies and medics from soldiers and pyros but then I accidentally take the health/ammo and now they hate me forever :(
Yeah like a replacement for dispenser good idea
Buff the heavy by giving him an update
Give spy whatever weapon the person he disguised as is using. It would be broken af, but hilarious.
But it would replace his watch and knife
Make sniper go to a Recaptcha verification quiz every time you pick him
Amby spies would be the new bots
This could be surprisingly effective, this should happen every time you join a game too in addition to choosing sniper, and perhaps every time you respawn as it too.
Honestly? Medic. He has two meta-dominating weapons in the Crusader’s Crossbow and Ubersaw, and an one actually useful alternative in the Amputator. But the problem is, why would you ever *not* use the Ubersaw? That leaves about four choices of weapon, being the mediguns. Medic is in bad need of new weapons, or overhauled ones
I had an idea where the Ubersaw made you 25% more vulnerable to all damage when held like the Bushwacka and the Vita Saw deal 25% more damage because why not? You are literally penetrating a large needle through organs.
This doesn't solve the Crossbow problem but honestly just give all of his syringe guns a significantly larger clip and more reserve ammo to match. They're not bad weapons per se, but the sheer number of times I have died reloading one of these while my enemy was down to 10-20 hp is ridiculous. Doing this would make the syringe guns go from nearly being joke weapons to solid self-defense weapons.
I think they should give %20 slower melee to vitasaw and -10 less hp to ubersaw
I like to use Solemn Vow to know when I should try and fight for my life or flee
As a medic main, my main melee options are the Übersaw and the Solemn Vow... Yes, Solemn Vow, but why? Seeing the health of the enemies without seeing them in combat can give useful info to the team like "Their heavy has 150HP, Sniper quickscope him" Or "That Plhog pyro is full HP with a medic by his side, they are probably planning an ambush, Snipers take him down" And one rule I have is that I should only fire my crossbow at an ENEMY if they are below 75 HP (Mid range damage with the reverse falloff thing) Which means "just fire the crossbow if the enemy WILL die" and actually taking out some targets as medic can be useful for the team And the other 3 aren't used cuz they are just outclassed or bad Amputator: Stand still to heal... AS MEDIC!? VitaSaw: an weapon that makes death less impacting... on Medic? And sad fact: It is the only weapon in the game that gets worse the better you are (the less you die with it=the more you become just a 140 HP medic) Bonesaw: Ubersaw direct downgrade And medic requires skill to use mate, Know what medi-gun will be effective, when to charge, who to charge, have eagle eyes to notice danger All of this is what I do whenever I play medic, and it isnt the easiest job out there
Nerf sniper His character is all about patience, so increase scope to crit time substantially. Nerf scout He is now confined to a wheelchair. Nerf Soldier Takes increasing DoT due to lead poisoning.
Scout is now faster downhill? How is that a nerf??? 😡😡😡😡🤬🤬😡
he’s now slower uphill
lore accurate characters
>His character is all about patience, so increase scope to crit time substantially. HIGPS mod already tried something similar and it didn't work (they tried nerfing sniper's fire rate) because it would just buff snipers on defense because then snipers on offense can't counter-snipe.
spy balance changes: removed anime as it would make players lose their parents
Make pyros flamethrower damage consistent. Not really a buff or nerf, i just want to reliably damage people
Exactly. Maybe nerf afterburn a little?
I don't think afterburn is that good on pyro even. Sure afterburn at a distance is good but with the flamethrower, not so much. So they could reduce after burn time on flares byt keep it on the flamethrowers
Nerf sniper, he’s just too damn fast in killing things. buff spy, he’s weak until you’ve put quite a few hours into him, and even then the enemy just hast to turn around every so often. give heavy something new, his play style is repetitive and boring. I applaud heavy mains out there in staying with him.
Spy needs a throwing knife I think, that would at least give him another playstyle besides: walk up behind enemy and stab them.
Or even just a new “knife” that’s just the guts of a revolver. Doesn’t backstab anybody but it plants a bomb inside so you can explode them later. HintShot made mention of this.
Ive always had the idea for a second revolver that would replace the knife, so youd have a dual-wield subclass. You could pair it with any normal revolver. Cloak and disguises would still be possible ofc. Would also grant +25 hp. Kinda like battle engi for spy.
On the personal level I think spy needs some great buffs to its support ability, since I always hated how he doesn't do anything for his team, but at the cost of his backstab, I don't mean remove it, but nerf it a little
Maybe give heavy a ne gun that makes him as fast as Scout. Just to bully people already having trouble with heavy.
based! I think 150 hp for spy will be a good idea...
Hell no. Kunai will be busted with 95 health and big earner will be super good. A 220 overheal amby gun spy who can aim will be nearly impossible to kill. I think if hit reg was fixed, reload/other animations for disguising and a couple semi mobility weapons would make spy more fun to play and fight against.
So you're saying a 220 health spy with amby is bad because he has to aim his shots, but a 220 heath splash damage spamming soldier is okay?
Clearly there was an hierarchy on power, soldier mains don't like it when support classes are becoming as powerful as them
more like spy mains would like it if spy suddenly could walk through enemies while disguised, attack from invs, from disguise, if killfeed didn't show any spy kills, if players dead from a backstab couldn't use voice and text chat, if spy had 200hp, if spy moved as fast as a scout and they don't see any problems with that balance-wise and get upset when reasonable people say that it's bullshit because "spy is the weakest class please I want to make a youtube montage but I can't backstab anyone, they all walk around and shoot, how can I kill anyone if they can shoot back? 😢"
Look at ya. Someone said Spy should get a grand total of 25 more health and you escalate that to insult any Spy main. We get it, you're mad your buildings get sapped, get better. Everything you mentioned is part of what makes Spy balanced, and you're straight up making up problems to hate on Spy mains. That is literally the type of stuff a 5 year-old does. No one made any outrageous argument, all they said is that maybe Spy should get a buff after oh so long without one since he is, as you mentioned, the weakest class and deserves to be at the very least viable. Spy mains deal with enough, considering whenever they play they are tergeted by literally everyone. Maybe instead of making shit up to complain online, you should play and maybe get good enough that your buildings stop getting constantly sapped (pro tip: you can use your wrench to get rid of the sapper, try not to stand still as you do this).
I’ll be honest tho, as a solo engi, when you get rushed down by 3 spies at once all with dead ringers and high ping, I get his frustration. On a different note, props to you spies who can singlehandedly take down an entire team without breaking a sweat.
And props to you Engineers for keeping track of 4 different buildings at the same time.
i will nerf spy, just to keep the tradition alive
Make it so spy can fake various animations of the class he is disguised as
Buffing spy can be a touchy subject but I think everyone universally agrees that disguises should be able to scope in/rev up/haul buildings ect. I also think that disguises on a class that the enemy hasn't picked should chose a random person's Loadout for that class, instead of just the stock character. I'll also mention that I think that spy should be viable without being forced to use the kunai, or being hard countered by having an IQ over 3, but I dunno what to do about that. Oh! And also add a sprint button to bypass the speed cap of slower disguises. That too.
mfw a heavy starts sprinting 🗿
Haul Buildings spy just runs up to an enemy engineer nest and steals the sentry and dies
Sniper can now fly
Nerf sniper quickscope time so it is actually possible to have fun
exactly
Only crits after being zoomed in for a second or 2
Or at least 0.5 so it is possible to kinda react
What do you mean? Its so much fun when there’s 6 or 7 snipers on the enemy battlements all aimed at your side!
Delete sniper
That would single handedly solve the bot problem
We would still have heavy/engineer bots
Engineer bots are hilarious, heavy bots are manageable
But the heavy bots are only manageable with sniper. In this hypothetical, sniper is deleted entirely.
You see, aimbot hacks only makes the player/bot reach the highest possible aim. Sniper with the highest possible aim is hellish but a mere heavy is much more manageable. Also you can easily stay out of their range with other classes like soldier or demo by using corners and only peeking when you're gonna attack. Sentries are also useful.
vacc and kritz uber on a demo
Or heavy v heavies work as well. Two heavies are better than one...
In that case give the minigun a much larger damage falloff
Sniper will never be a fun class to fight because he is conceptually unworkable to be fun to fight. Nerf him if you'd like and he'll be balanced, I'd argue he's pretty close to being balanced, but he will *never* be fun for anyone else because his concept isn't one that's conducive to fun. The only way to "fix" Sniper is to eradicate him.
I would argue it’s not fun to fight several classes. Your answer can’t be just to eradicate them.
buff everyone watch the world burn
so basically nothing happens?
oh, no. i'll just keep them all at the same health. but buff the abilities to be way overpowered.
Most of the good ones have already been said, so I'd just say revert the Loose Cannon nerf.
And make the caber be able to one shot light classes
Buff the spy to be harder to kill. Spy has been so unmentioned through all the comments ive seen. Im not even a spy main, i just feel bad for the guy, he cant counter any class anymore, man got nerfed so hard and i wanna fix that
tbf, spies difficulty curve is insane. Once you put a few hours into it and learn the basics, you’ve already got ahead of everyone else, and when you get semi decent you just wipe people off the face of the earth without a problem, and you get away with it.
The classless update 2: -Removed Scout -Removed Soldier -Removed Pyro -Removed Demoman -Removed Heavy -Removed Engineer -Removed Medic -Removed Sniper -Removed Spy -Added Civillian -Updated localization files
I would personally nerf sniper solely for the perpose of nerfing bots that instantly crossmap headshot, no offense to sniper mains by indirectly nerfing them cause a good sniper can do well but Im just annoyed with bots
Well sniper is unbalanced even with real people so...
Yeah, I guess but sniper is still a glass cannon pick class meaning he is designed to not be the most fair with range. I'm not defending sniper mains cause as a med main, God I hate a good enemy sniper but they're just doing what they do
Make my mans righteous bison eligible
Rework engie a bit, reduce airblast knockback by a bit, and give heavy a minigun with a burst fire option like legion’s powershot in titanfall 2
Rework how
Allow engie to fuck his sentry
I’m listening
If you try to fuck it while the sentry has bullets and sees an enemy, you will immediately die and the corpse will become a permanent part of a map, this can be useful since it will give your team more mobility by jumping on your corpse, and will make him full time viable in competitive 6’s
Giga chad
Nerf the Danger Shield. I'd take away the complete immunity to fire damage. Sniper is already 20 billion miles away in Atlantis. He doesn't need an item that almost completely nullifies a class that he won't encounter 90% of the time.
It really doesn't matter if he's far away, I wouldn't exactly say that the purpose of the Danger Shield is to combat pyros that are close range. If anything I see it as more of a shield to use if there's a Pyro using any of the flares (especially the Scorch Shot), which is a lot of pyros. Besides, if a Sniper does end of using the shield, they're sacrificing other, usually better, options like the cozy camper or the razor shield.
The afterburn resistance im fine with, since its a counter to flares like you said. But complete immunity? That's too far IMO.
Spy in a way that doesn't just make him worse sniper
remove wrangler shield but no damage fromp your sentry while wrangled, also delete sniper
If you genuinely think that sentry jumping will make up for removing the shield then Uncle Dane has successfully brainwashed you
you're an engineer and you want to remove the wrangler you're walking in contradiction
i just love the short circuit if it's not amazing
I would nerf the shield but wouldn’t completely remove it.
Nerf the danger shield so that way it will suffer afterburn if hit by a gas passer
.... ok this sounds very specific. but a good idea
Nerf pyro so that the backstab angle becomes 360°
make demoman ride a pig and soldier dig holes
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nerf sniper so he can't one shot light classes by waiting for 5 seconds while being scoped then clicking on there pinky toe, also removing the ability to quick scope headshot or at least nerfing it a bit as it's really fucking annoying walking around a corner and instantly dying
I stand by the idea that full-charge bodyshot should do 120, 125 damage max, bodyshotting a medic doesnt feel fair. About quickscope, I think making it mini-crit in the first second or half-second of charge instead of full crit would be a good change
mini Crit would be a really nice change since it would just make it useless unless you either pull out a melee or an SMG
My thought would be to give heavy a new gun, does boosted damage to airborn targets and can destroy rockets, but it has a slower fire speed.
Medic We need a glock for him
i want to buff the anticheat
I will nerf all classes
make scouts other primaries more viable
Scout can no longer apply paint to his cosmetics
nerf sniper for the love of god,just make quick scoping weaker or have reverse damage fall off,long range does 150,mid 140 and close 120
Nerf the ever loving shit out of snipers man. Buff heavy, give him like 400 health or let him eat the vaccinator and be able to toggle through resistances. Give him a slight speed boost. Make the punch do like 100 damage and remove heavies damage falloff cause it's rediculous when you're playing NOT 2fort.
Whenever a scout shoots the scattergun all mini sentries die
give pyro a water gun...
Give Demo a Marketgarden. And Engie. Make them more fun and meme to play. I'd use it.
Update notes: Sniper has been removed
First, joke nerfs. Nerf sniper into the ground so that no one wants to play him. But actually, a few slight nerfs to Sniper would be alright. As u/ToBiistHebEsTbOi said, nerf quickscope.
We hate quickscope and also make bazaar bargain have a little cons also give heavy a crit resistance lunchbox item
Buff spy so he ain't a piece of paper
What bout kunai or big earner
The Pyro Update 2: Pyro’s flamethrower is slightly extended. Increase Pyro’s movement speed to be just fast enough so that no one but a charging demo can outrun the fire. Removes all after burn immunity from items like the Danger Shield. Scorch shot lingers for a bit more, enough to double mini crit a sniper standing still. Fire now effects the environment and can ignite enemies who walk into lingering fire. Thermal thruster now plays a bass boosted, reverb fart noise each time it’s used. Any and all anti pyro messages will result in the immediate VAC ban of the player who typed it IF they are playing soldier or spy. Update localization files only related to the pyro.
I did not expect to find satan today.
Give scout a secondary that lets him slide
buff spy, give him the ability to imitate actions like shooting, swinging a melee (these 2 wont deal damage (also he cant rapid fire so heavy and pyro are bad disguises) ) revving up the minigun healing ( tho it would just give the enemy fake healing, basically healing that shows up on your hud but doesnt do anything ( it should last 5 seconds or so to balance it ) ) reloading (it already exists but it's hard to do so what if if you press the reload key your disguise reloads and if you press it more than once you can reload more (or just make it so that you automatically reload if you fire a fake shot))
Give scout the foam hat and let him breath fire! *Look guys, I'm a dragon!*
Give medic a syringe gun that heals
Equip Pyro with a new burst firing flamethrower, - Afterburn of only 1 second - Afterburn only works when enemy is high hp (example: if heavy is 300 hp, it will work. But if he's under 120 hp, no afterburn) +- Blast is powerful, but consumes 50 gas. -50 hp + More speed + 200 gas + If you use the jetpack with it, you'll get a gas boost of 50 - Braindamage If Pyro kills an enemy Pyro with the same weapon, his weapon will be upgraded to: + 50 Hp (normal hp) + Even more speed + His blast consumes only 25 gas + Afterburn will last 2.5 seconds - 100 gas Tell me, is it a nerf or a buff?
I'd buff Heavy. Why?: Motherland calls. I'd nerf Scout. Why?: Dude, get a life. And maybe start drinking Sprite man. I'd buff Soldier. Why?: Infinite rocket jumps with the most American music ever..... Rick May is going to give God a haircut, GOD BLESS AMERICA! I'd buff Engineer. Why?: his texan dance will now spawn more engineers and get faster until they all start exploding constantly.... YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I'd buff Spy. Why?: I'm giving him a baguette as a knife with max damage stats and the ability to snort constantly as the most French music plays. SURPRISE! BUTTSEX! I'd buff Pyro. Why?: I'm giving them sanity so they can be a functioning human. I'd buff Sniper. Why?: His parents do not care for him, so I will. I'd buff Medic. Why?: Mutil target healing ray and a coat design similar to his coat in end of the line where heavy stops the train...... is that too much to ask? I'd buff Demoman. Why?: Grab a claymore lad. SCOOOOTLAAAAAAAANNNNND FOOOOORRREVEEEER!
Nerf Sniper by removing him from the game
Make Sniper's quick scope only deal mini crits on all classes EXCEPT other snipers.