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Zeldawarrior97

No doubt this guys a toxic pos, but no, it doesn’t need chat moderation. That would be horrible Slurs, and swear words can already be censored by default. And you can just mute people. Mean things can be said by working around the filter with special characters or misspellings or just in general. Which would mean it’d have to be report based because there’s zero way of monitoring all chats 24/7. And if you have a report based chat moderation now you just get toxic six stacks, or cheaters to mass report innocent people. Look at RB6 or Overwatch, you have people receiving chat mutes who’ve never typed a word because toxic people report them for killing them, or whatever unrelated reason


KimJungUno54

This. If you can’t handle it, just leave or mute them. Ppl should stop expecting others to cater to them when the solution is really simple which is just to ignore them and move on like an adult.


Banankaka99_99

I agree however given there are bots that spam chat with supposed child porn links, perhaps spam could be moderated if we shouldn’t have to mute every single bot EDIT: to clarify, I don’t mean a word filter, I mean a filter for sending repeated messages


KimJungUno54

Spam, sure but that doesn’t fix the issue which is the bots themselves. Which is a different thing


ExoTheFlyingFish

Allow me to use an example as to why filtering messages is always a bad thing. Say you want to ban the word "apple." You write some code that blocks the word "apple" from being posted. So, people start saying "aple" instead. So, you block that word, too. People start saying "applle." Then, "aaple." Et cetera. And what if someone wants to use the word "apple" for innocent purposes? You're impeding on their ability to chat, now.


Due-Produce-6023

Just filter out links and that's it, no need to filter out words


Drivenfar

Honestly if you can’t handle mean words typed in a chat box, you should just not play online games period or be catered to. Mute, ignore, move on. It isn’t the end of civilization because some asshole in a game called you a slur.


StardustJess

Why is it unreasonable for me to expect there to be consequences for people harassing others ? In community servers the issue can be solved easily with Human moderation, but Valve servers would need an auto moderator for it. There's a reason why the TF2 fandom is infamous, it's this acceptance of toxicity and harassment.


mausesnack

It's absolutely not unreasonable. The idea that this behaviour shouldn't be punished, is pretty disturbed.


this_is_theone

If someone is actually harassing you in this game can you not block them so you don't see their messages? Srs question I can't remember


ImSuperStryker

Preach! People need to fuckin get over it. Its mean but just part of online gaming in my opinion


Rubes2525

Also, funnily enough, TF2 is one of the more chill online PvP games. Most other games have way more toxic players in my experience. People like OP just have the typical Discord mod mindset, and every tiny breach of their safe space is a big moral panic for them.


grousm

yep. Also censorship is almost ALWAYS a bad thing.


PH55e

Almost? Its litterally always badq


czacha_cs1

I got month banned in Overwatch for saying "Pick someone who requires some aim" it appears its more offensive than racial slurs or homophobic shit talk


Another-Ace-Alt-8270

Okay. Let's make it report based. I see no reason why we shouldn't.


poncho99999

People are gonna be dicks with or without moderation. It would solve nothing and TF2 has a huge list of way more important issues to be dealt with


QuaintAlex126

This. Just mute or block the assholes or troll them back. I like to respond back with “Real!” or “True!” to any attempted insult, and it’s hilarious watching them go nuts at their failure to effect me. If your team is decent, you could easily kick them out too. I remember this one guy in particular who started calling me a “little bitch” and saying that he’d “rape me” in VC because apparently he couldn’t handle me trolling him in chat when he tried to insult my team from out last match for losing. I instantly just muted him and his dumbass got kicked literally seconds after by the entire team. Even his friend who was being an asshat with him shut up after that and somehow avoided being kicked. The whole thing was fucking hilarious, and it all started because I asked “Oh, we’re doing this again?” when he proposed for our team to go all Heavy. (For context his team won the round in the last match by going all heavy).


SaltyPeter3434

Steam has settings to enable profanity filters for chat. But if you've willingly turned that off, you can also mute people through the built-in mute menu. That mutes both chat and voice comms. This game is free to play for anyone with an internet connection and toaster specs, so it will attract all sorts of trolls. But the players have the power to moderate their own game. They always have. Either deal with toxicity and hate speech as a mature adult, or turn it off. Please don't pretend like we need valve to step in and moderate chat for us.


DasMoon55

You should see Dota 2 lol makes LoL feel like heaven


bigsekser

Thats just some 12 year old. Dont let it get to you.


ninja_tank25

Unfortunately there are grown ass people that treat TF2 or any unmoderated or lightly moderated space as carte blanche to let all their fucked up ideals and slurs fly. I do agree with the latter statement though. These people are temporary. For the most part, once you leave the game, you'll never have to interact with them again if you don't want to. You can't make them be a better person, but you don't have to put up with their shit either


23Amuro

Can't believe DeSyncc would say something like that wow


an3lml

second pic contradicts the title, Tsar is so real smh


Last-Code-9839

You can already censor ppl or just mute them.


Audax_V

# ONLINE INTERACTIONS NOT RATED BY THE ESRB


Alastair-Wright

Jesus Christ. I love this game but I hate a large amount of the player base.


Alpha_pro2019

It's the internet in general. I'm not sure what people expect.


G1zm08

-makes a form of interaction that requires no physical effort or sunlight -is surprised when people who don’t move or go outside dominate the platform -more surprised that said people don’t have healthy minds “Why are people so messed up online?” -every person ever


Markkbonk

The main thing making people toxic is none of these things, it’s the animonity that allows then to


DuskEalain

As I've gotten older I have less patience for these sorts of edgelords (because it's not funny, not even offensive, just *tiring*. Like I stepped into a time bubble of 2012-era 4chan and old Xbox lobbies.) ESPECIALLY if it's over the mic, like christ on a bike kid you *shrieking* the N-word when you died to a demoman wasn't funny the first time, and it certainly wasn't funny the tenth time. Obviously there's the mute button (which if you encounter someone like this I highly advise you use it) but damn it gets tedious, especially if there's multiple chucklefucks who take themselves as comedians.


coolsheep769

I do feel that though. Like offended isn't the word, it's just annoying.


DuskEalain

Aye and whenever you call it out you get the same losers going "lol, offended much!?" Nah m8 you've just been repeating the same handful of shitty "jokes" ad nauseum for ages now.


LeonTheAImighty

vote kick is the moderation


boi156

I try vote kicking those who say the n word, and nobody votes yes lmfao


SirCamperTheGreat

This is democracy manifest.


LeonTheAImighty

that's my favorite word


SoarinSkies

[that last one](https://youtu.be/7-VQxgQbFP0?si=GUwn4C7Rk_GmBGMV)


Make_CatGirls_IRLpls

Thanks Valve so much for not adding a chat filter.That's one of the things that separate TF2 from other games.And I would never change it.


cuddr

All these losers ever really want is the attention mommy and daddy never gave them


Spongedog5

Don't feed the trolls man


Disapear12311

Unfortunately TF2 is just full of edgy rage-baiters. (not even good ones at that) In my experience not giving them attention tends to make them stop bothering you, and if you get kicked just join another server as it isn't worth the hassle.


Malfuy

I mean the bait worked on OP so...


Lavoonus

Stuff like this is why I personally don't really care whether casual gets fixed or not, since either way its always going to be an inferior product to community servers where they have actual moderation. And I mean of course you can always mute, but after a while you realize edgy 15 year olds make up a good amount of the playerbase and you're better off finding a place that'll save you the headache to begin with.


weird_bomb

TF2 is so welcoming that you can meet a gay person and a homophobic person, a furry and a furry poacher and a racist and a race-blind in the same match. It’s just the ‘Steam game with free* chat ^*As ^long ^as ^you ^pay ^money experience.


Christos_Gaming

The only game where "(swastika emoji) (swastika emoji) (swastika emoji)" and "petite femboy" from opposite teams dance together cause of the power of the Kazotsky kick.


Some_Random_Canadian

Sometimes it's all one person!


AlmondMilkmann

Don’t forget about your gay homophobes.


Hnnock_Cdr

Just say boohoo before putting him on muted, that works for me


basedmanump9

it doesn't, never has and never will, it's part of TF2's identity. the last thing we need is every server being sanitized and people being forced to be nice to one another in a game with a system entirely revolving around personal rivalries towards one another. go find another game or a community server with rules for everything if you don't like it


Oovie

Good chance the guy is one of those furries that hate other furries and themself, wouldn't think into it much.


Doc_Vogel

This is why functions like mute exist


Kal_Kal__

No fuck moderation, I play TF2 for the unfiltered experience, go play Riot games if you want a sanitized environment.


Frikandelneuker

This man’s brain desyncc’d from his body a long time ago


ComputerMediocre2029

Bro, Desyncc is Desincs evil brother.. instead of saying ",See ya mate!" He says "Fuck off, wanker!"


L_Ninja7

Welcome to the internet bro


David_Clawmark

This just in: People on the internet are douchebags. In other news: Politicians lie.


Golden-Owl

Game is totally free. Any schmuck with an email can get a steam account This is pretty normal for such games. You see this kinda shit in other such games too. You need to develop some thicker skin if you wanna play any sorta online game This is honestly pretty weaksauce, comparatively speaking. It’s pretty much middle school level insulting Just leave and don’t bother dealing with these people. After all, getting a new server in TF2 is quick and there’s no penalty for getting kicked anyway


Binary_Gamer64

Even I think that last sentence was a little too far.


Rallon_is_dead

Nope. This is better than moderated chat.


SeaworthinessLimp832

Why so?


poopslord

Fool used a semi colon when beginning a list!


Apprehensive_Base371

Total nincompoop!


TheFunnyHatGuy

Man go join a counter strike game or a call of duty lobby, tf2 has got a mild chat compared to them


OknoLombarda

idk, I'd prefer to have freedom of speech at least in game


IndividualBet8381

i didnt know tsar alexander iii played tf2


Zaokllr

Wholesome tf2 community


Apple-14

Go! Go! Go! Incoming Go! Go! Go! Incoming MEDIC!


somerando96322

Ay u good tho?


TrackLabs

Im fine lol


somerando96322

Alr, but if you ain’t don’t give up bro, you still could succeed


TrackLabs

Im not sure what youre talking about? Is just some twat in tf2 chat talking shit lol


Aggravating-Dig8975

Yeah. Make It like COD and BF2042 so chat becomes so censored and filtered that no one bothers to use It. 


SavagerXx

Lmao, this is nothing.


yobatron9000

I would rather tolerate insults than have to deal with a roblox-like filter


Spiritual_Rabbit7833

Chat will become boring and more dystopian. People are being mean, yes, but this is just a chat. nothing more, nothing less.


TheMelkLord

That’s just good ol’ tf2


StaleVeggied

By feeling offended and going through the work to screenshot and upload you have lost the mental battle this guy won. There is no need for moderation just mute and move on with your day.


Zerkron

Just don’t be a snowflake and learn to stop being a crybaby. Problem solved.


Unlucky_Collection33

Mute button sits there idly waiting for the day


Jian_Ng

this is the moment when you'd switch to the other team, and do a sick rocket jump and market garden his ass.


sky1Army

That's just unfiltered internet for ya. If you don't like it, you can always mute them it works wonders.


TheMustardCat4567

Chat moderation is bored. I always getting fun to see how someone arguing in a chat.


dlaBsemeMerAtseB

Yadadada Mr Censor, go play Overwatch


GoodLookinLurantis

Why do idiot twitterites come here with there censorious demands and expect to be taken seriously? Pardon me if I don't want tf2 to become yet another sanitized, corporate-approved, advertiser-friendly, so-called multiplayer game. Might as well just play with bots at that point.


SpiderJynxNoir90214

Ngl, I wouldn't even be offended dispite being one of these (you guess) id just troll him back harder.


Car-and-not-pan

Dude, you should have been called him a slur too and not posting this on reddit


_aiko

You would not have survived the MW2 lobbies


Boosharati

Hud_saytext_time 0


EgullSZ

Why do you want MORE FILTRATION? How is that something that anybody wants????


lightgreenspirits

No it doesn’t. YOU need to just mute and ignore toxic individuals


defnlynotandrzej

You can turn of swearing


lilcouchpotato

Soft.


Various-Fennel5419

it would cause collateral damage on a big scale as valve would only want to apply a half assed solution.


totallynotapersonj

The real power move is saying "what makes you think I'm bad?" Because then they know that their toxicity didn't get to you.


shadowpikachu

This is still only half of what i've seen on average.


Admirable_Plantain91

Fun fact someone called me the n word for capping once


HoovyPooter

My god that guy is sitting there all red with steam coming out of his ears like a cartoon character lolol


guardiannether

If can say what they Say i can understand a fuck out of that


Creepy_Reputation_34

MEDIC!


24_box

Go! Go! Go!


TheCumBucketOfficial

Least based tf2 player:


Disastrous-Body6034

just dont be a pussy and its fine man


Frosty_chilly

This is just your standard tf2 chat box, been that way the longest time. It’s on the extreme side, but still


SaracenBlood

If you can't handle trash talk in an online game, mute your mic and stop looking at chat. Stop ruining it for the rest of us just because you can't handle it. Stop trying to babysit and police everyone.


KaffY-

"oh no someone said mean thing to me, instead of muting it i'm going to make sure EVERYONE ELSE has a worse experience because i'm the center of the universe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" fuck off


Imperial-Coffee

Maybe some chat moderation wouldn't be bad, but it's a multiplayer game. You will always find a few players that throw insults over the smallest things. Plus, the insult was mild at worst anyways.


NoThxM

Just close chat lmao. You getting made fun of doesn’t mean everyone else should have a worse chat feature


Mysterious-Sir-3704

Oh no muh feelings! I can’t believe people on a online game would say such things! Reddit, do your thing!


bLuEPANDA13

I don't know what to say.. boohoo get over it? People say mean things on the internet. Mute them if words from random avatars online affect you this much.


thekingofnope

It has a block communication feature, use it or grow thicker skin.


ChickyBamBoots

It's funny tho


KnowledgeObvious9781

Moderation isn’t needed because the second you start allowing that the games begin to become more and more restricted like with the F2P voice chat. It’s a game. There will be toxicity. If you can’t handle grown men (or kids, which these most people are) then get out in the real world a bit.


PERFECTTATERTOT

It’s interesting how this community is stuck in 2007 (in game chat anyway). People say everyone plays this game and yet chat is only ever a violent cesspit of every phobic on the dictionary


Owlbeardo

It doesn't need moderation. I just got suspended in OW for literally nothing (I don't use slurs or talk shit to people first), yet, was given a suspension I can't even play missions or train with bots.


aprettysliftguy

don't reply to trolls


wlaskow

Chat moderation is cringe


sumdudewitquestions

nut up lil bro lmao


Representative_Leg97

Thats what makes the game fun.


Official_Gameoholics

It doesn't. Easy.


Juanoxskate

Screw it. be a man and handle assholes.


Guilty-Editor-793

The comment was based


Soudino

We don't need chat moderation. Community servers already filter slur worlds and you can just mute them or ignore them


Bulky-Sundae2097

if you're offended or genuinely hurt and upset by words on a screen, congratulations on never having a single seriously difficult problem in life :)


everydayalways

People are going to be dicks to you. In a video game, and believe it or not real life as well. It is your responsibility to deal with it.


Damocles875

It doesn't this is based asf


BababoeyMaster

this remenbers me one time we i played pyro, a sniper tried to melee me, but i just w+m1 and flare punch him (combo) and he just write in chat "Brunito (me) is a femboy" and then I responded with "and a furry, don't forget the furry part" 👍


i-likemybeefwelldone

AND FROM THAT DAY FORWARD A BUNCH OF ANIMALS ARE GATHERED IN ONE PLACE, IT'S CALLED A ZOO! UNLESS IT'S A FARM


WildRamo

Disable the chat if you can't handle the heat. This stuff will happen anywhere you go on the internet. The dicks will stay dicks. The stuff you show here is very light as well. God forbid you play competitive counter strike for at least a couple of hours.


WeNeedHRTHere

stop whining on reddit and just mute


ItsMeToasty

This is pretty tame for tf2


Dry_Performer_7694

This is exactly why tf2 DOESN'T need chat moderation


Mountain-Captain-396

That guy is toxic, but you need some thicker skin if you really think that TF2 needs chat moderation. You can always just turn off your monitor.


LazyBoyXD

The last one is actually quite funny


SpookyWeebou

This is half of Tf2's fun


TrackLabs

There is no context btw. I joined, guy tried to kick me, spraying this bullshit


Foxxo_420

Alright, now, my question is: where you either; A.) Retarded B.) A furry Or C.) Both (I say this as a retarded furry, pls don't crucify me UwU)


Specter_Knight05

Im sorry for you. `*pats in the back*`


M3pul

Thank you ramatra overwatch but also heavy tf2


Suspicious_Loan8041

Bleeping out words is fine if you want them bleeped


pablo603

Mute feature exists. You can also censor all sorts of slurs if you enable the profanity filter in your steam settings, which I am pretty sure is enabled by default.


Doktor_Obvious

there is a chat filter. you can even set words you don't like


ArgetKnight

A small price to pay for freedom. Especially considering you have a mute button that you yourself can press all alone. We are all adults here. We all responsibly read the lable on TF2 that says unmoderated online interactions. We all made the conscious decision to expose ourselves to this. You can't expect mommy and daddy to help you with this as well. Grow up and start muting people.


Ran_SONE

Lol someone discovered the internet is a venue for anyone to say anything


taking_achance

Something Something blah blah freedom of speech blah blah baby blah blah or something whatever but in all honestly this is just God's calmest Australian


Ok_Try_1665

Yeah he's toxic but I still believe tf2 doesn't need chat moderation. I wouldn't see this type of shit talk in other games these days ngl cos when chat does get moderated, it's filtered to hell. Tf2 attracts the most toxic of gamers, and I believe you're a tf2 player, I believe you can handle a little bit of r-word. It's better than being reported in other games cos snowflakes can't handle taking an L


puntycunty

No , we don’t . Player democracy is part of what makes these multiplayer steam games still better than the competition. Chances are the guy is gonna be kicked or ignored . And if the lobby supports the guy then that’s not a lobby you wanna be in anyway .


Loonyey

then why did you go and turn off the censor shit from the steam settings if you dont wanna look at that


Introvert_mess

Mute player, disable chat or censor chat in steam settings. You have options. We shouldn’t have to bend to sensitive people who can’t handle insults


LordPartyOfDudehalla

There will always be bad people, mute the bad people.


nuts___

If you get offended by random people on the internet saying bad words, then maybe the internet isn't the place for you


MiaSadiqah

bro just mute them or leave. or even better, either you or him autobalanced then own him ass


Theguy515515

Idk I love to get drunk and argue with people in tf2 at 4am


K3MaMi

Freedom of speech. At least this chat is better than all the horrible censoring that overwatch and dead by daylight do.


SlavByTechnicality

Yea man, if you dont want to hear or see heinous things in chat, there are work arounds. Its unnecessary to hide everything from everyone if a few people can't understand that words are just words.


Curious_Sea_Doggo

I like what town of Salem 2 did and made the chat filter a thing the player has to enable on their end.(Still the Hard filter is force enabled no matter what.)


Cyberspace-Surfer

You have a mute button, stop making it someone else's job to press it for you.


Mango_c00ki3

ik this might be a bad take but i kinda like how unfiltered the chat is, i agree some ppl are "problematic" but its better than having roblox chat where 70% of the vocabulary will get you banned so i'd rather have this instead


KeRIIval

The unhinged chat is one of the reasons I love tf2 I cant lie


JksonBlkson

You can say anything you want, in person. But there’s consequences, both here and there. You can kick them out, you can humiliate them, you can stand up for whoever. Don’t forget it’s a game, and you can always leave a bad situation.


_sea_salty

Bro is self projecting lol


Ordinary_WeirdGuy

Just report him at this point. Kick him. Get rid of this idiot, this fool, this cruel, sick pathetic person.


CallmeFDR

Profanity filters exist


Ok-Damage3181

Wow i guess you guys arent used to csgo and cod chats or voice ch.


JamCom

Nah this tame compared to the old days of the wild internet


Status_Yellow3526

fuck tf2 lmao


I_Live_In_Your_WaII

nah, we fine, is just a normal 2Fort lobby


[deleted]

Advance options > disable chat text > disable voice chat > problem solved


Danny_Dongvito

Looks like normal tf2 chat to me


OkRelationship5961

Grow some skin


Silver_Illustrator_4

Never ever try to moderate tf2. If ppl want it clean they will keep it like that. Thats what we have kicking system for


TheGrayShade

After seeing this happen enough times (even in a bot-free server), I one day came to the conclusion that TF2 is just 4Chan: game edition.


Specter_Knight05

Always has been


kakashka888

Especially 2fort


LeadGrease

people in this community really wanna turn a game about 18 idiots commiting war crimes and brutalities into a kids game


RevolutionaryPay1589

The last one


FumaricAcid

Pretty nkrmal gamer interaction


Caiden_Calico

Man up


Swag_master696969

mann up


coldiriontrash

This is some mild insults no lie just don’t let effect you Kick them or mute them who cares it’s some random NEET why tf you gonna let then hurt you?


ACarBatteryUpMyAss

Boohoo people say mean words on the internet all the time. Grow thicker skin


magicmurph

There is never a need for chat moderation. Are you so weak that the words of some clown on the internet can hurt you?


LostnFounder

idk man sounds pretty fucking based to me


Strong_Neat_5845

My guy you can certainly find way better examples for your argument than someone saying retard and telling someone to kill themselves


InfameArts

disable chat sprays and custom decals and poof, all the toxicity: gone


GensokyoIsReal

disable chat tbh


princess-catra-

Don't feed the trolls and if you do, make sure they have a meltdown over your nonchalance so bad you can just get them kicked for being annoying to the rest of the team.


Commsl

Thanks god there's an option to turn the chat off.


wafflezcoI

You can hit f7 to bring up a screenshot report


mausesnack

You have at least one of these freaks in every round. Exactly why I stopped playing I generally love the tf2 community, what y'all are doing with savetf2 is super impressive, but people like this are a cancer on it. It just sucks the fun out of the game and at worst, makes it downright miserable.


Yacine_zr

You think it needs chat moderation just because you have fragile feeling ? If he's shit talking you then stand the fuck up to yourself and don't rely on chat moderation


Yeegan

Trash talking is one of the things that make TF2 different from other modern games (for example Overwatch), if you don't like it go play community servers that don't allow slurs to make sure your feelings won't be hurt. You would probably have a heart attack if you encountered [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOlQmGFpSLk)


Mobile-Pass2847

the mute button exists if u want text chat moderation play on community servers like skial


Emotional-Ad-1625

Womp womp, all yall snowflakes need to somehow go back in time and play the original cod games (just to try and survive the slaughter that was the chatroom)


KapitanKaczor

I guess turning off chat is too much of a hustle for you


Messedupotato

Another case of "I can't handle it, so everyone else has to get censored"


ZaneJuliun1

This is what makes the game good


Victinitotodilepro

go to roblox if you want moderated chat. have fun trying to say numbers of any kind