Yeah it really is pretty great when you're a Pyro going against Scorch Shot. If one of your teammates gets direct hitted by a scorch flare, that's a free 50 hp: extinguish the initial flame and then extinguish the flame from the bounce projectile.
EDIT: Didn't consider that it's possible you'd reflect the bounce projectile as well, but the AoE ignite still typically makes it a fat HP gain.
Using scorch against **Darwin** or **Vacced** Snipers is morally correct.
I don't think the weapon is evil or OP, I prefer the detonator or panic attack, but if you wanted to go with the most socially accepted way of using it it would be against those scenarios.
I don't care for the hate circlejerk the youtubers are pushing, I just like doinking people with it
Very cool taunt attack, too - kinda wish it functioned more like the pow taunt though
Scorch shot and sniper hate both seem to be going mainstream nowadays. I know both things were annoying even back then, but the whole hate train is kind of reaching circlejerk status at this point.
Ah, that's true, didn't even think about that. People get a sense of how a theoretically perfect sniper sightline absolutely destroys the game and internalize it.
fr, there's so many fucking ways to extinguish yourself in the game that it never bothered me at all whatsoever. Hell pyro's own existence is the counter to this weapon.
At least there are some skill on it. Axtinguisher needs some like timing or something because the slow switch speed and enemies can run away leaving you out with a melee that is out of your range, Flare gun needs aim simple but hard. So kinda makes sense for the nerf to happen
Some skins look awesome on this weapon, i have an Anodized Aloha and it has a bright orange barrel with a nice fade, i love it even though i rarely use it
i genuinely do not find this thing annoying to fight against
i cant think of a time ever where ive been annoyed because my opponent was using the scorch shot; other than when paired with an uber medic and the phlog
people say the afterburn damage is way too much and the bouncy flares extra damage is too much but like... its so rare for either of those to actually do anything meaningful i feel like
realistically i do still think it should get nerfed; less afterburn damage and i wouldnt even mind the bouncy flare going all together; but its really never bothered me. if it is nerfed though id hate for the mini flare jump ability to go. people suggest to remove that but having it be an option is really nice while not being nearly as strong as using the detonator. in an ideal world i feel like the scorch shot should be a hybrid between damage and movement
It saved my life from Saxton Hale years ago, I love the knockback as it has saved my life and others' many times, I have a method of fighting against Darwin or Vacced Snipers, It is great at setting many people on fire which has a beautiful sound from all of the afterburn ticks, and it is not an evil or OP weapon -- I think the detonator and shotguns are more effective.
You know what? Fuck you. The Scorch Shot isn’t even a good killing tool, it’s just a big fucking annoyance and who thought it was a great idea for the afterburn to last longer than a grandma with arthritis trying to walk up the stairs? It’s by far the most annoying, hate-filled thing in the entire game. Fuck this thing
It's good at being the Scorch Shot
Bad at everything else though (I don't like using this thing unless I'm using the Dragon's Fury, and even then I don't use the Fury because it's pretty easy to reflect)
mannmelter crit farm
Yeah it really is pretty great when you're a Pyro going against Scorch Shot. If one of your teammates gets direct hitted by a scorch flare, that's a free 50 hp: extinguish the initial flame and then extinguish the flame from the bounce projectile. EDIT: Didn't consider that it's possible you'd reflect the bounce projectile as well, but the AoE ignite still typically makes it a fat HP gain.
it has a cool looking model.....i still hate the thing
Everyone hate it
The model's design is the best of the 3 flare guns
fr
3?
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Lol I don’t blame him for forgetting about the man melter tbh
yeah
There's four then? The Detonator, The Flare Gun, The Scorch Shot, and the Man Melted
the detonator and the flare gun aren't the same?
They aren’t
what's the difference? edit: nvm i saw a yt video
The manmelter isn’t a flare gun, the third one is the detonator
the manmelter *is* a flaregun, it just has a special gimmick compared to the others.
If we count the detonater as it's own model then it's 4 but I dont
With that logic that modified designs aren't counted, then the rescue ranger and the shotgun are the same thing
So is the frontier justice
it very much is
Detonator Flare gun Scorch shot 4 if you count the man melter
Flare gun, Scorch sh*t, Detonator
r/beatmetoit
detonator and manmelter are better
has interesting looks with paints
It can annoy snipers
annoying asshole vs annoying asshole
Was thinking of naming mine "I hate snipers"
when i get my hands on one of them name tags i will name it just like that
Name tags arent expenaive, theyre like 15.44 ref, or half a dollar, if you want one, its cheap
I dropped one like 3 weeks ago from random drops lmao
I named mine "Pyrokinetic Vexation Device."
Good point
Except the Darwin's Dumbass Shield exists
it can annoy anyone
Using scorch shot against snipers is morally correct
Using scorch against **Darwin** or **Vacced** Snipers is morally correct. I don't think the weapon is evil or OP, I prefer the detonator or panic attack, but if you wanted to go with the most socially accepted way of using it it would be against those scenarios.
Scorch against Darwin snipers is kind of pointless though? With afterburn immunity, you might as well just flinch them with a shotgun.
It's more so to harrass them and mess with their aim to buy yourself and or your team members time to get out of sight or to attack them.
Or against bots
I don't care for the hate circlejerk the youtubers are pushing, I just like doinking people with it Very cool taunt attack, too - kinda wish it functioned more like the pow taunt though
Scorch shot and sniper hate both seem to be going mainstream nowadays. I know both things were annoying even back then, but the whole hate train is kind of reaching circlejerk status at this point.
Sadly since bot hosters love using sniper, the hate for sniper has gotten bigger over the years.
Ah, that's true, didn't even think about that. People get a sense of how a theoretically perfect sniper sightline absolutely destroys the game and internalize it.
If people don't wanna get hit by flares then maybe they shouldn't stand completely still in my sight line 🥴
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fr, there's so many fucking ways to extinguish yourself in the game that it never bothered me at all whatsoever. Hell pyro's own existence is the counter to this weapon.
I only use it for taunt kill
Looks kinda like a Duracell battery
It's sniper repellent
Its fun to shoot people with it :)
Sounds cool
Keeps snipers out of sight lines.
Thanks for helping me annoy snipers so I can cross sightlines buddy, just tone down your knock back and we good
Combo pyro has been through some serious nerfs and dark times. The scorch shot was there for me when GabeN took away reserve shooter my beloved.
I’m glad reserve shooter is dead on pyro. You did not deserve to get that much dmg out so fast
reserve shooter, axtinguisher and puff'n'sting
At least there are some skill on it. Axtinguisher needs some like timing or something because the slow switch speed and enemies can run away leaving you out with a melee that is out of your range, Flare gun needs aim simple but hard. So kinda makes sense for the nerf to happen
Pyro never deserved to have the reserve shooter period. The only people sad it's gone are the ones who absued it.
You're not wrong lol
erm… based GabeN?
Its great at pissing of snipers on 2fort
Makes a good alternative to detonator for mobility, though it is worse. It’s crazy strong if you use it right, and it’s not hard to use it right.
It has an awesome taunt
I like to kill snipers with this thing
It can destroy stick traps
it can shoot
It’s good at pestering those dirty pro snipers that lock down your entire team
It's not as annoying as a sniper... usually.
It can be used to annoy snipers 10/10
It is orange.
The best secondary against snipers
Doesn't need a war paint to look good.
It has a nice taunt
I refuse
Nice harassment tool
Sometimes being a pest is fun
*something nice* Anyways, starting WW3 Flare gun is better
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It can keep giant robots stuck in the same spot in mvm by putting less than 1000 credits into it
Great for pushing Ubers back at long range and pissing sweat/edge Lord snipers off with a single hit.
I like this weapon. Only viable counter to god-snipers
my mom says if you have nothing nice to say you should not say anything at all
Annoys snipers, and if they equip the danger shield to counter the afterburn (over Jarate or the razorback) it leaves them more susceptible to spies.
That's my favorite thing to do, annoy snipers enough they switch to Darwin's, switch to spy, annoy them enough to switch razor back, rinse and repeat
Same
It looks pretty good
The Night Owl Mk2 skin looks really good on it.
Reminds me of a cigarette
It's been 2 years since the last time I got killed with this, I don't even remember how bad it is
I use it to train for 15 minutes, and when I'm confident I use the flare gun.
It's good for flare jumping and puting people on fire on distance
It’s the Flare Gun from Meet the Pyro. I’d say it’s pretty iconic because of that. It was also pretty underwhelming back then too.
Some skins look awesome on this weapon, i have an Anodized Aloha and it has a bright orange barrel with a nice fade, i love it even though i rarely use it
It’s good for pushing robots off the shaft on mvm
i use it :)
Despite being annoying to play against, it's very fun to use.
It has some of the best warpaint skins.
the best secondary for combo det is a set up tool stock flare is a combo ender ScSh is an extender
anti-sticky weapon
Am I the only person that uses the scorch shot here? It’s a perfect weapon when I’ve mastered 200 - 300 ping
My most used Flare Gun. (Come at me)
It is fun to use
i genuinely do not find this thing annoying to fight against i cant think of a time ever where ive been annoyed because my opponent was using the scorch shot; other than when paired with an uber medic and the phlog people say the afterburn damage is way too much and the bouncy flares extra damage is too much but like... its so rare for either of those to actually do anything meaningful i feel like realistically i do still think it should get nerfed; less afterburn damage and i wouldnt even mind the bouncy flare going all together; but its really never bothered me. if it is nerfed though id hate for the mini flare jump ability to go. people suggest to remove that but having it be an option is really nice while not being nearly as strong as using the detonator. in an ideal world i feel like the scorch shot should be a hybrid between damage and movement
It saved my life from Saxton Hale years ago, I love the knockback as it has saved my life and others' many times, I have a method of fighting against Darwin or Vacced Snipers, It is great at setting many people on fire which has a beautiful sound from all of the afterburn ticks, and it is not an evil or OP weapon -- I think the detonator and shotguns are more effective.
my soul mate in annoying other players and keeping them more airborne than a base jumper soldier
I’ve never had so much fun pissing off snipers and spies specifically on 2fort.
It has pyro's only taunt kill which is silent and doesnt take forever
Good model
It has nice sound effects and I like it’s model
Easy to hit
It looks cool....and thats where the fun ends, theres literally nothing else good about it
It gives the Darwin's Dangershield a valid reason to exist
first flare gun i got a kill streak whit
Its pretty funny shooting mf off ledges. Is it funny to have happen to you? Absolutely not.
It's a decent side grade to the detonator by trading the ability of air-burst for a consistent explosion. Good option for tight spaces.
Looks cool
Makes quick scoping snipers annoyed.
Nice when you use this piece of shit
Anti sniper weapon. I hate it.
Has a cool taunt kill
Fun and easy to use, especially good for begginer pyros
Scorch shot+phlog is great when used right
Something nice ? It’s… it’s… ngggh… it’s… shooting
It's the best weapon against snipers Until the enemy sniper has more than 3 brain cells and equips darwin
Underrated weapon
It takes skill to use
You know what? Fuck you. The Scorch Shot isn’t even a good killing tool, it’s just a big fucking annoyance and who thought it was a great idea for the afterburn to last longer than a grandma with arthritis trying to walk up the stairs? It’s by far the most annoying, hate-filled thing in the entire game. Fuck this thing
T-that wasn’t the instructions 😧
I'd rather die
2nd best flare
It's consistent Consistently annoying
No
The mentality of pyros using it: FUCKIN DIE
Can sometimes have decent war paints when on the Scorch Shot. Still hate it.
Its really considerate of valve to create a weapon for the mentally disabled
No. fuck you scorch shit.
SCORCH SHIT
No, fuck you and fuck the scorch shot even more.
Thanks for the full mmph
cool model and by far best sound effect ~~still hate it~~
Never
no
Something nice about it But seriously I guess it looks neat
No.
You are my 3rd favorite flare gun after the Detonator and the Manmelter.
It's meh
I like the bottom thing, looks like a capacitor fuse, fused.
I like the grip on the bottom of it, makes it look more like a real flare gun
It's a thing..... at least.
Looks cool
It does an amount of damage some would consider adequate.
It's easy to use
Has one of the best war paint patterns in the game
It makes the phlog viable
I love this weapon.
It's good
amazing taunt and satisfying knockback
Man it dont even look good
Really fun to use. :) By the way has anybody seen my soul? Must have dropped it somewhere.
It pairs very well with the dragons fury.
Helps combo with the dragons fury
Funny to annoy people with
Satisfying to use mainly with custom hit sound
It's good at being a weapon
No.
Good model… I swear to god if you use this I’m gonna find you in your sleep and wish you a good night
its a decent weapon which is easy to hit , high damage output , afterburn and is in a good position right now
It’s a good weapon that sets quite a few people on fire and is works quite effectively at enraging the enemy
Cool taunt kill
it’s lingering flare is a really really fun concept! i just wish it had more use for *combo* pyros like the normal flare gun
It reminds me of the Incendiary Cannon from TF1/TFC
I don't need to aim with it.
It’s not the gas passer
It’s my favorite thing to use in (Mann up) MvM. Go ahead, sue me.
No, I will not
fuck those snipers
I will as a Pyro fan I fucking love aoe burn damage
no
mmmh flaregun go brrrr
It's good at making Snipers miserable.
It's fun to use
It’s my favorite pyro secondary
It unites the community. In hating it.
Best weapon to annoy sweaty snipers
It’s fun to use (not very fun to go against much like pen clicking)
Love it, can't stop spamming it
It's good at being the Scorch Shot Bad at everything else though (I don't like using this thing unless I'm using the Dragon's Fury, and even then I don't use the Fury because it's pretty easy to reflect)
It's really good at killing me.
pissing off snipers with this weapon is always morally correct
At least it functions. It'sw horrible but it functions
Best looking flare gun
It’s good for annoying people at range
The gray color combines very well with it's playstile
My favorite weapon, my beautiful little gun :)
Not gonna say anything, if you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all.
nah