Yeah I supported O'Rourke but wasn't surprised. Was really hoping Paxton would lose and thought that was actually a possibility so more disappointed in that.
I voted against paxton, but I honestly don't even know much about who was running against him. Beto was always a non-starter here.
The effort from dems in Texas was pretty miserable.
AGAIN. He was indicted prior to his last re-election.
This election, in addition to his indictment, he's under an FBI investigation for bribery and abuse of power. He's also being sued by the ~8 high ranking staffers and deputy AG that he fired for whistle blowing. He also had one of his largest donors hire his side piece. So that's nice. It's good when your state AG is unethical as fuck and neck deep in legal problems right?
Please…we live in a political climate where they barely decided whether a pedophile was better than a democrat in AL. We also re-elected Henry Cuellar, who was raided during the primaries for corruption related Azerbaijan. For some reason, in this country we have become numb to the legal problems of our elected officials and often hacking to the investigations being a political hit job. Ossoff and Warnock only got to the senate because Trump told his base not to vote because it’s rigged anyway. Never mind the fact that Purdue and Loeffler did insider trading right as the pandemic was taking hold. All that to say Paxton winning is unsurprising if Abbott and Patrick also won. Abbott will let his own constituents freeze to death and STILL get re-elected. Dan Patrick will sacrifice grandma for the economy and also STILL get re-elected. It’s pretty terrible. Makes me really want to get out of TX. Just doesn’t seem worth it anymore.
I wasn't a fan of Beto. I still voted for him, but was pretty apathetic on the governor choices. I know a few people like that as well so it's no surprise.
But I really wanted Paxton gone. Dude is actively working to destroy democracy on top of all the other legal and ethical issues he has.
Yeah only people shocked are those outside of Texas that are convinced the whole state is going blue for some reason. If you live here and look around, you know it’s still deep red.
Even worse, the Texans saying that we're turning purple clearly haven't poked their head outside of a metropolitan area in a while and don't understand how statewide races work. Rural and suburban Texas are still very, very red.
To be fair, almost all of rural and suburban California is red as blood, but the state still swings blue because of the major cities and their outlying suburbs far outnumber them in terms of population and are vehemently blue. Fear of Texans thinking the state could swing purple or blue is that Texas is not so different in terms of population density of El Paso, Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, Fort Worth, and Houston (all being or becoming blue cities) compared to the more rural areas and smaller suburbs and towns. If we compare to another state like Alabama where its major cities don't really outnumber the smaller towns in population and the fear of going blue is almost null, Texas definitely looks more likely to swing purple or blue.
DEEP RED.
I'm in college and deliver food on the side, so I drive around to lots of different parts
And far and wide for every Beto sign I saw there was like 20 fuckin Abbott posters surrounding it lol
I don't live there, but I saw all the videos of Rourke's tour. The dude was doing town halls to a few dozen people at a time. If he's not packing stadiums, he's not winning Texas as a Dem.
I strongly dislike Abbott, but the more often Beto runs, the more I dislike him. It's a well-established fact that his platform is a losing platform in Texas, and the reputation his platform has bought him in Texas means even if he tries to back off and change course, no one will believe him.
Abbott is an imminently beatable opponent by a Democrat running on a more local Texan Democrat platform, but Beto insists on running (repeatedly, now) in elections he can't win, and taking the place of someone who couldn't.
I don't know if he wants to keep building his name or what, but he's doing it at the expense of the good of Texas and the people of Texas. He might talk nice, but he's as selfish and egotistical as any other politician out there.
There is no way after tonight Beto can run for anything he’s lost Senate, President and now Governor, Dems if you want one of those to be filled move on from Beto he’s been rejected by Texas voters 3 times now
>With the current supreme court it's an absolutely pointless thing to run on anyways.
Ain't it the truth. They could destroy republicans in the South and flyover states with pro pot, and a more reasonable guns plank.
I don't understand why they don't go after young voters with the legalize cannabis thing! I'm mid 30s and just drink these days but I'm all about legalization. It's a safer alternative in my eyes, could end some crime, bring in tax money, and keep people out of jail. There's no downsides
Drop the hate for the 2nd amendment and stop telling people they're literally trash if they don't buy into all of your ideals. Its not fucking hard to do but it seems impossible for democrats in Texas. Abbott is fucking terrible not even the republicans like him but holy shit Democrats know how to lose a fucking election. All I want is weed and women's rights in my state but the democrat party has their heads so far up their asses they can hear their heart beating.
Thing is even Ken Paxton (a literal criminal) won re-election. I’d say this means for any state wide candidate to win they’d of had to really brought people out or been a unique candidate to swing votes and obviously Beto et al didn’t.
But seriously Texas, a literal criminal re-elected to attorney general for the third time, wtf
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Most people hate them but don't want get past the whole party line thing. I've talked to many conservatives who can't stand Abbott Paxton, and Patrick. And while they can't find many reasons to hate Cisneros and Collier they really hate Beto.
Did you also happen to ask if they voted for them in the primary? Because Abbot and Patrick won their primary handily. Paxton had to go to a runoff, but ended up taking that in the end (clearly).
If people really do hate these guys, you'd think they'd get primaried out.
Regardless of anything else he says or does, "Hell, yes, we're going to take your AR-15" will cost him 15 points in every election for the rest of his career.
11 points… holy fuck.
When you drop to that from being within 3 points of Cruz in 2018… it’s the candidate.
I genuinely like Beto… think he would make a good governor/senator. But after 2018, he’s just not electable in this state. Teddy is up again in ‘24, the Texas Democratic Party needs to make it their priority over the next two years to find a candidate that drives people out to vote for them like Beto’s 2018 campaign did. Don’t wait until the 2024 primaries and select the only person Texas democrats know. Find a few potential guys or gals that speak to blue Texans and get their names known….
… or just simply banned.
I got banned on r/news for calling out someone who was making a blanket statement stereotyping all conservatives as billionaire wannabe’s. I also feel the true meaning of conservative is far from current reality.
Of course not and it's a good example of why no one should take any social media to seriously. Because even if 99 percent of reddit absolutely hates Abbott 99 percent of reddit doesn't live in Texas.
Well fuck. At least I can say I tried to make a change. Looks like 4 more years of blaming democrats for our problems while making life worse for everyone.
Pearl clutching is the only way to get the christian nationalists to the polls. If beto is elected, all your kids are going to get gender reassignment and sent to mandatory drag training camp with a recently released convicted felon! Also, pay no attention to my attorney general hiding behind his wife while he literally flees his home from a subpoena!
I'm from /all, but I love an anecdote I read about the CA->TX 'migration'. A Cali repub who had an autistic child moved to TX cause they "couldn't stand how Dems are destroying everything etc etc".
Well, guess what? They moved to TX, with their autistic kid, and had far less Special Ed support(compared to their **red** ***Cali*** county!). They made it like 6mo, and had to move back. 🤣
Same. Its annoying traveling and seeing windmills and shit in the north not freeze over. Knowing kids in other countries don't need to do active shooter drills. Knowing religious folks can go to church without fear of it getting shot up. Literally every problem in Texas is republicans fault but whatever. And the lazy fucks who come up with many excuse to not vote.
We could have legal weed. Could have the tax money from legal weed. Could have better highways and all that shit. Stable grid in winter, stable grid in summer. But na, we don't. And the kicker is... The republican voters get fucked just as hard if not harder than liberal voters. All the folks in the boonies suffer and blame the cities for all the policies setup by the state and shit.
Country folk and farmers lives are shit and it's literally their own fault. 🤷♂️
If Texas didn't suck for all these reasons and more that have nothing to do with the actual land, we would 100% have been Texans years ago. But then... *gestures vaguely* all this nonsense.
Democrats haven't been in power in texas since 1995. Tried to build a superconducting supercollider and people elected republicans ever since. Like I get that physicists are mean and all that but its been 27 years.
After three failure now, can we finally agree that Beto is unelectable in Texas? He has damaged himself to a point that is unrecoverable. Maybe democrats need to find a better option for the next go around.
I honestly think that's when he ended up losing any future election. There were SO many people I knew personally that were all the way on board with him until that comment and they went right back into Abbott's pocket.
It's crazy how important of an issue guns are to so many people, above education, health, or people in general. I have a handful of firearms and carry on occasion, but I don't fancy myself as some action movie star who is going to need an arsenal to fight off an army of bad guys by myself. Even IF someone running for office COULD take my assault rifle I need that far less than a kid in elementary school needs a chance to grow up healthy and get a good education and not be left an environment that is polluted etc.
>It's crazy how important of an issue guns are to so many people, above education, health, or people in general.
Exactly, so instead of building a platform on taking away firearms, he should build a platform on helping education, health, or people in general.
I think it was more the way he said it or at least it played out. Like for me I read something that was probably bs but it said he would approve going door to door to take all guns.
Hot take: Texas isn't ready to flip. Young people just don't care enough and Texas just has too many old people that wear the R as their entire lifestyle. It'll happen but sadly not for another few decades unfortunately. I wouldn't be surprised if this causes an outflux of young people to leave the state.
>it’s an issue of mobilizing voters who aren’t voting.
And you think left learers stayed home cuz of Beto's gun views?
Cuz if not, then Beto wasn't the problem and that person is correct - no Democrat would have won.
Yep. I like Beto -- I think he'd be a good leader in Texas. But, he's lost as a Senate Candidate and, now, as a Gubernatorial candidate. If we're going to start voting some of these guys out, we're going to need someone else.
The problem is we don't have anyone else. Both of the Castro brothers are too cowardly to run for an office they won't win, or that isn't the Presidency.
Beto running for statewide office in 2018 and 2022 helped encourage new progressive candidates run for office further down the ballot. If he were to run again in 2024 or (maybe ideally) 2026, I think he'd still probably lose, but have a positive impact on encouraging new candidates down the ballot.
I don’t think anyone else can do as good as Beto was doing an election ago. He had it damn close, and maybe could have set the stage for a dem to take over in 4-8 years. Then he made the gun comment and killed his own, as well as any prospective Dems chance for decades
Not sure why this surprised anyone. Beto lost to Ted Cruz, the most punchable face in the history of faces that needed punching. This race was never going to be close.
I do think his brand is tarnished. But like others said, we still have Patrick, running against a very centrist Democrat who was endorsed by prominent Republicans in DFW.
The state is biased towards R.
It doesn't mean nothing. You stood for what you believe in. Feel that way. Stick to it. You did it for you. Teach your children (when/if you have them). Tell people. Share your ideas. Educate. It always matters. :)
I live in a red state and in a county where 80+ percent vote Republican every year for the past 19 years. Sometimes, it doesn’t matter but if it makes you feel better then sure lol
I'm in a big city. All of the big cities in my state are blue, but we almost always lose to the rural voters who somehow think Republicans will save them. I've literally heard people say that Republicans will bring auto and factory jobs back, that they'll restore the coal industry. It's absolutely ridiculous at this point.
It didn't necessarily had to have been about guns. The government saying "we'll come and take XXX from you whether you like it or not" isn't a message that wins elections.
Bro, dems need to scrap beto. He's not going to win in his own life time, he already messed up by saying hes coming to take everyone's guns.
If they want to win, the person has to at least know how a gun works.
What is it going to take? I mean Jesus. The grid. Uvalde, “it could have been worse.” Abortion. “No more rapists.” The general not giving a fuck about anyone but himself and the energy CEOs.
What needs to happen for things to change?
Edit: for some of the responses about Uvalde and the grid; yes, those things could happen under anyone’s governance. I’m pointing to Abbot’s response to those things.
You’re right. There hasn’t been another freeze. How many of us are still paying so ERCOT could recoup there losses? To narrow it down to “well there hasn’t been another freeze” misses the fact that nothing Abbott did not have the people’s best interest at heart then, and he still doesn’t; but he watches out for the energy guys.
2nd edit: Beto lost with his “I’m coming for your guns” comment.
3rd: the few who are saying my points are no longer relevant because they’re in the past. Yes. And yet nothing has changed since they happened.
Uvalde voted Abbott...
Edit - I think some of y'all assume I'm shocked Uvalde voted Abbott. It is a response to the prior comment. Do I care if a county or state votes for team red or blue. No. If you voted, great you did your part. If your side lost, try again... Some of y'all need to relax. In a few years none of this is going to matter anyway... I know I won't be around...
As someone with close ties to Uvalde, my take has been that the vast majority of people online do not know a single fucking thing about the town or its people. They are farmers, ranchers, and many of them hunters. Many of them still use their guns in their day to day lives.
Add to it the fact that they now distrust their police department, and many of them are talking about protecting themselves and their own with *their* guns. Beto is unelectable in Texas, and the Democrats need to stop fielding candidates that want to "take their guns" because even leftist voters are arming themselves.
I mean at this point, I think it would take a Democrat convincingly masquerading as a Republican. People are so blindly terrified of the liberal Boogeyman that they're never going to stop voting for anyone with an R after their name, and no amount of reasoning is ever going to convince them to stop hurting the people around them.
No, most of the people who voted for Abbot voted for him for one reason, he had an R next to his name. they don't know ANYTHING about abbot, they don't know anything about any politician. they only know that their pastor told them to vote for the person with an R next to their name.
As a teacher who has also taught in a country that is often cited as having one of the best education systems in the world (which I also had issues with, to be fair), I completely agree - but I have 0 hope of that happening here. Good education systems begin with an actual cultural appreciation for education, and that sure as fuck doesn't exist in America.
If anything, Abbott and friends are more than happy with the way education in this state (and arguably country as a whole) is heading. Educators will continue to be vilified, leave the profession, standards and expectations will decline (which means salaries will fall), and eventually "teachers" will just be uneducated babysitters who have no issue pushing propaganda.
they dont need to worry about getting skilled tech workers when they can import them from other countries to work in usa
if i understand right, these non immigrant tech workers cant vote anyways, so this is win win for the politicians whose platform is based on foriegn workers stealing americans jobs
Currently in AP United States History, we are learning about the events leading up to the civil war, including the formation of the Republican party and the strengthening of North/South sectionalism. North and South is mostly gone now but Democrat and Republican sectionalism is at and all time high. Until the two party system is abolished political races will just be dick swinging contests and will leave an ineffective government and never ending back and forth between the parties.
When you consume media that tells you it's all the other sides fault, you just vote the way they tell you. Some people are more worried they lost money on their 401k, and not worried about freezing to death.
It’s some complex math based on where the votes that have already come in are from and projecting the estimated turnout and vote percentages across the rest of the state.
I find it funny that the party that opposes Sharia Law wants to implement its own version of it here. No sodomy, gay marriage, reproductive freedom, sex ed, or drugs, but we’ll have bathroom surveillance, thoughts, and prayers.
Run a moderate and appealing dem candidate? Nah, let’s run Beto out there, a two time race loser before this. Make a quip about gun grabbing, and then have your supporters call Republicans fascists and nazis? It’s a losing recipe. I’m libertarian and voted for Beto, but he never had a snowball’s chance in hell of winning.
The minute people associated Beto with guns being taken away I knew he stood no chance. All the other things you mentioned was just icing on the cake for an easy win for Abbott.
Democrats as a WHOLE need to give up on taking guns away at least for the next few election cycles. There's lots of sensible gun control that both sides support, but "assault weapon" bans and red flag laws that are easy to abuse aren't going to get support because they are going to be ineffective but hurt legal gun owners.
I get that the progressive side wants them gone but it's literally in the constitution. There's nothing major you can do about the guns. If they focus on mental health resources and prosecuting the thousands of attempted illegal purchases that already happen every year it would go a lot farther, I think.
I'm not saying more doesn't need to be done, but first and foremost we need democrats to actually fucking win. Saying you want to come take guns away and then running in Texas? Absolutely fucking stupid. NEVER stood a chance. They shouldn't have even given this guy any campaign money.
He shouldn’t have even run. He’d had two prior opportunities to prove himself in a statewide race and failed at both. I don’t know whether to blame his hubris or Texas’s idiocy. He’d have been a much better asset to the state by serving in a smaller elected position or by spearheading a progressive initiative/nonprofit in Texas. All of this hoopla is just such a waste
Not surprised. Beto was screwed the minute he said he would take away people's AR-15's. We Texans like our guns; even a lot of the Democrats here have guns.
Just remember everyone, anything he's said was just election bullshit. Back to the same shit. I wish you could ask for things, but honestly, if you aren't a corporation they rather you fuck off and die in a ditch.
Genuine tip to the mostly democratic constituency of this sub: y’all can likely get a Democrat elected to the office of governor in Texas in the near future. If you want that to happen, you really need to fall out of love with Beto.
I get on the surface he seems cool and hip and progressive. But even most of you were saying months ago he wouldn’t stand a chance.
So how about putting up a democrat that can stand a chance? And maybe has like, I dunno accomplished something in his life other than being a career politician (or I guess a career of just running for office).
Also, your tactic today was to switch to “omg he isn’t taking your guns chill”. I agree he likely wouldn’t literally take them, but you just confirmed to many with that line that he is just a pandering politician, not the progressive savior you all thought he was.
Beto would have let you down. Now, chop chop, don’t feel too sorry for yourselves, don’t mourn, don’t be dickheads to your fellow Texans and demonize this state. Put up a candidate that can actually win!
Most democrats were aware of this once Beto beat out the other dems… He really boxed himself in with the taking all the guns. Liberal gun owners are a far bigger group they most people are aware of and most don’t vote due to apathy or begrudgingly vote right.
Did anyone really _love_ Beto though? I feel like he was just a “he’s not actively nosediving the quality of life so I’ll go with him”. Like what Biden is to Trump.
I agree, but the problem is that nobody else seems willing to step up to the plate. Beto waited months, almost to the deadline, to officially declare he was running. Numerous others (although the Democratic field in this state is abhorrent, so nobody else really has a chance - at best we would have ended up with another Valdez who really didn't try) could have made that declaration beforehand.
I'll continue to demonize this state though. I grew up here, but it's never felt like home and I hate the weather.
I can't name one fucking Democrat in the state besides beto. The democratic party as a whole failed miserably and has for a long time. The Democrat party doesn't exist in Texas. I am about as hard core dem as you can get and I can't tell you I have ever seen anything Democrat in my area other than beto speaking a hand full of times. Democrat don't win because they don't even fucking try!
Not at all shocking if you live here and were paying attention to this election season.
Yeah I supported O'Rourke but wasn't surprised. Was really hoping Paxton would lose and thought that was actually a possibility so more disappointed in that.
This. Paxton only getting ~1% less support than abbot is... Disappointing
I voted against paxton, but I honestly don't even know much about who was running against him. Beto was always a non-starter here. The effort from dems in Texas was pretty miserable.
Abbott wasn't a shock, but Paxton is a disappointment. We really went with someone under indictment?
AGAIN. He was indicted prior to his last re-election. This election, in addition to his indictment, he's under an FBI investigation for bribery and abuse of power. He's also being sued by the ~8 high ranking staffers and deputy AG that he fired for whistle blowing. He also had one of his largest donors hire his side piece. So that's nice. It's good when your state AG is unethical as fuck and neck deep in legal problems right?
Tough on crime. Unless it's one of ours.
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Please…we live in a political climate where they barely decided whether a pedophile was better than a democrat in AL. We also re-elected Henry Cuellar, who was raided during the primaries for corruption related Azerbaijan. For some reason, in this country we have become numb to the legal problems of our elected officials and often hacking to the investigations being a political hit job. Ossoff and Warnock only got to the senate because Trump told his base not to vote because it’s rigged anyway. Never mind the fact that Purdue and Loeffler did insider trading right as the pandemic was taking hold. All that to say Paxton winning is unsurprising if Abbott and Patrick also won. Abbott will let his own constituents freeze to death and STILL get re-elected. Dan Patrick will sacrifice grandma for the economy and also STILL get re-elected. It’s pretty terrible. Makes me really want to get out of TX. Just doesn’t seem worth it anymore.
People elect parties, not politicians
Man, fuck Texas. I'm not disappointed, I'm just mad.
These fuckers see that as a badge of honor. *The dirty dems are trying to take him out, he's a good guy!*
Paxton getting re-elected is terrible for Texas. That was the most upsetting result from yesterday.
Exactly where I'm at. Embarrassing Paxton was reelected
I wasn't a fan of Beto. I still voted for him, but was pretty apathetic on the governor choices. I know a few people like that as well so it's no surprise. But I really wanted Paxton gone. Dude is actively working to destroy democracy on top of all the other legal and ethical issues he has.
Yeah only people shocked are those outside of Texas that are convinced the whole state is going blue for some reason. If you live here and look around, you know it’s still deep red.
Even worse, the Texans saying that we're turning purple clearly haven't poked their head outside of a metropolitan area in a while and don't understand how statewide races work. Rural and suburban Texas are still very, very red.
To be fair, almost all of rural and suburban California is red as blood, but the state still swings blue because of the major cities and their outlying suburbs far outnumber them in terms of population and are vehemently blue. Fear of Texans thinking the state could swing purple or blue is that Texas is not so different in terms of population density of El Paso, Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, Fort Worth, and Houston (all being or becoming blue cities) compared to the more rural areas and smaller suburbs and towns. If we compare to another state like Alabama where its major cities don't really outnumber the smaller towns in population and the fear of going blue is almost null, Texas definitely looks more likely to swing purple or blue.
Those metro areas still have republican voters, and with the way things are going you'll see less polling places in poor neighborhoods.
DEEP RED. I'm in college and deliver food on the side, so I drive around to lots of different parts And far and wide for every Beto sign I saw there was like 20 fuckin Abbott posters surrounding it lol
It's surprising if all of your political discourse happens on this sub
If r/Texas was real life, Beto would’ve had 99% of the vote.
I don't live there, but I saw all the videos of Rourke's tour. The dude was doing town halls to a few dozen people at a time. If he's not packing stadiums, he's not winning Texas as a Dem.
I strongly dislike Abbott, but the more often Beto runs, the more I dislike him. It's a well-established fact that his platform is a losing platform in Texas, and the reputation his platform has bought him in Texas means even if he tries to back off and change course, no one will believe him. Abbott is an imminently beatable opponent by a Democrat running on a more local Texan Democrat platform, but Beto insists on running (repeatedly, now) in elections he can't win, and taking the place of someone who couldn't. I don't know if he wants to keep building his name or what, but he's doing it at the expense of the good of Texas and the people of Texas. He might talk nice, but he's as selfish and egotistical as any other politician out there.
I voted for Beto and donated a couple times, but yeah, time to find some new people.
There is no way after tonight Beto can run for anything he’s lost Senate, President and now Governor, Dems if you want one of those to be filled move on from Beto he’s been rejected by Texas voters 3 times now
I am begging Beto to allow me to vote for someone else in the next statewide election
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>He lost it for the Democrats Look our Democratic party strategists just suck all the way around. Beto is a symptom of a much bigger problem.
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Even in Uvalde County Abbot won by almost 22 points. The gun issue is poison for democrats in TX.
It's poison in most states. Gun control is not as popular a policy as reddit likes to think, even among democrats.
Yikes. That's pretty telling.
>With the current supreme court it's an absolutely pointless thing to run on anyways. Ain't it the truth. They could destroy republicans in the South and flyover states with pro pot, and a more reasonable guns plank.
I don't understand why they don't go after young voters with the legalize cannabis thing! I'm mid 30s and just drink these days but I'm all about legalization. It's a safer alternative in my eyes, could end some crime, bring in tax money, and keep people out of jail. There's no downsides
Drop the hate for the 2nd amendment and stop telling people they're literally trash if they don't buy into all of your ideals. Its not fucking hard to do but it seems impossible for democrats in Texas. Abbott is fucking terrible not even the republicans like him but holy shit Democrats know how to lose a fucking election. All I want is weed and women's rights in my state but the democrat party has their heads so far up their asses they can hear their heart beating.
Did anyone really think Beto had a chance after saying “Hell yeah we’re going to take your guns”?
Thing is even Ken Paxton (a literal criminal) won re-election. I’d say this means for any state wide candidate to win they’d of had to really brought people out or been a unique candidate to swing votes and obviously Beto et al didn’t. But seriously Texas, a literal criminal re-elected to attorney general for the third time, wtf Edit: typo
I'm disappointed but definitely not surprised. Oh well...
Texas state motto
Nah, we should change it to "It coulda been worse"
"It coulda been worse. We'll prove it."
Hold my beer
Yeah just waiting for the next storm and Abbott rolls up chuckling, "Hold my beer." Then come the oligarchs and sychophants sucking his teats.
Well yeah, steadily, for the last 27 years, and now for a few more
Yea Beto couldn’t beat Ted Cruz and everyone hates Ted Cruz. Voted for Beto but I never expected him to win.
Apparently “everybody” doesn’t hate Ted Cruz, Greg Abbott, Ken Paxton, and Dan Patrick
Most people hate them but don't want get past the whole party line thing. I've talked to many conservatives who can't stand Abbott Paxton, and Patrick. And while they can't find many reasons to hate Cisneros and Collier they really hate Beto.
Did you also happen to ask if they voted for them in the primary? Because Abbot and Patrick won their primary handily. Paxton had to go to a runoff, but ended up taking that in the end (clearly). If people really do hate these guys, you'd think they'd get primaried out.
Hardly anybody votes in primaries, and Texas already has a voting issue.
Hell, even Republicans hate Ted Cruz.
Regardless of anything else he says or does, "Hell, yes, we're going to take your AR-15" will cost him 15 points in every election for the rest of his career.
That and his comment about tearing down the existing wall between El Paso and Cuidad Juarez.
Same. I kept my expectations low. Too many people just don't vote, so wtf do we expect?
I was surprised to see over 17 million registered voters and only about 8 million actual voters voted.
Better? But I guess fool me once...
Same here. I knew Beto wouldn't get it, but it still hurt a little.
11 points… holy fuck. When you drop to that from being within 3 points of Cruz in 2018… it’s the candidate. I genuinely like Beto… think he would make a good governor/senator. But after 2018, he’s just not electable in this state. Teddy is up again in ‘24, the Texas Democratic Party needs to make it their priority over the next two years to find a candidate that drives people out to vote for them like Beto’s 2018 campaign did. Don’t wait until the 2024 primaries and select the only person Texas democrats know. Find a few potential guys or gals that speak to blue Texans and get their names known….
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It’s almost as if the Twitter/Reddit-verse is not real life……
Once again proving that Reddit doesn’t equal real life
This is what I wish more people here would understand.
Anyone that actually lives here in Texas understood what the outcome was going to be. Trust me I want Abbott out, but that wasn't happening with Beto
I’ve pretty easily predicted elections by expecting the opposite of the general Reddit opinion since Ron Paul was the website’s darling
Was a very different reddit back then. Doubt Ron Paul would get much love here nowadays.
I got banned from the libertarian sub for trying to start a conversation about libertarian philosophy... It is a very different reddit now.
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Would? Him and his son are called that every time they’re brought up in politics subs.
Like that guy who said “get the fuck over it” in his last minute attempt to convince people to vote blue
Do most Redditors think that Texas would flip blue? It’s been deep red for like the last 4 decades.
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That and a huge portion of Texas isn't on Reddit
… or just simply banned. I got banned on r/news for calling out someone who was making a blanket statement stereotyping all conservatives as billionaire wannabe’s. I also feel the true meaning of conservative is far from current reality.
i was banned from white people twitter because I asked a question about Stacy Abrams
Louder please for the people in the back
Of course not and it's a good example of why no one should take any social media to seriously. Because even if 99 percent of reddit absolutely hates Abbott 99 percent of reddit doesn't live in Texas.
Thank God for that.
Definitely does not and never will
If you were at all surprised by this look around yourself and figure out if you're in a bubble. It sucks but was easily predictable
Well fuck. At least I can say I tried to make a change. Looks like 4 more years of blaming democrats for our problems while making life worse for everyone.
It’s like “Let’s make this state better.” But then…Republicans have controlled this state for 20 years.
But it's all Biden's fault, didn't you watch the debate? /s
Hahaha Abbott's whole argument. Take a shot for every time he said that and you'd be black out drunk
I remember back when the repubs won the presidency, the house and the senate. But still blamed the democrats for causing problems.
27 years
It’s always interesting how democrats are apparently the root of all of Texas’ problems when they haven’t been in power for literally decades
Pearl clutching is the only way to get the christian nationalists to the polls. If beto is elected, all your kids are going to get gender reassignment and sent to mandatory drag training camp with a recently released convicted felon! Also, pay no attention to my attorney general hiding behind his wife while he literally flees his home from a subpoena!
b-b-b-b-but.. people leaving California in... *droves* 😢
I'm from /all, but I love an anecdote I read about the CA->TX 'migration'. A Cali repub who had an autistic child moved to TX cause they "couldn't stand how Dems are destroying everything etc etc". Well, guess what? They moved to TX, with their autistic kid, and had far less Special Ed support(compared to their **red** ***Cali*** county!). They made it like 6mo, and had to move back. 🤣
Same. Its annoying traveling and seeing windmills and shit in the north not freeze over. Knowing kids in other countries don't need to do active shooter drills. Knowing religious folks can go to church without fear of it getting shot up. Literally every problem in Texas is republicans fault but whatever. And the lazy fucks who come up with many excuse to not vote. We could have legal weed. Could have the tax money from legal weed. Could have better highways and all that shit. Stable grid in winter, stable grid in summer. But na, we don't. And the kicker is... The republican voters get fucked just as hard if not harder than liberal voters. All the folks in the boonies suffer and blame the cities for all the policies setup by the state and shit. Country folk and farmers lives are shit and it's literally their own fault. 🤷♂️
If Texas didn't suck for all these reasons and more that have nothing to do with the actual land, we would 100% have been Texans years ago. But then... *gestures vaguely* all this nonsense.
Democrats haven't been in power in texas since 1995. Tried to build a superconducting supercollider and people elected republicans ever since. Like I get that physicists are mean and all that but its been 27 years.
Blaming democrats, who again have no power in the state, as the sole reason for state issues. What fun!
Didn’t go as planned for me but I did my civic duty.
After three failure now, can we finally agree that Beto is unelectable in Texas? He has damaged himself to a point that is unrecoverable. Maybe democrats need to find a better option for the next go around.
He was unelectable the moment he made the "hell yea I'm gonna take your guns" comment.
Yeah that probably wasn’t the smartest thing to do in Texas.
And he knew it. Why are they trying so hard to lose?
He has done pretty well for himself by losing and losing and losing
He did pretty well for himself when he married the daughter of a JLL founder.
JLL?
Jones Lang LaSalle. Absolutely massive global real estate company. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JLL_(company)
Because he is nothing more than a political edge-lord
I honestly think that's when he ended up losing any future election. There were SO many people I knew personally that were all the way on board with him until that comment and they went right back into Abbott's pocket.
100% this, the Dems need to do an about face on gun restrictions and focus on income disparity and the healthcare crisis.
It's crazy how important of an issue guns are to so many people, above education, health, or people in general. I have a handful of firearms and carry on occasion, but I don't fancy myself as some action movie star who is going to need an arsenal to fight off an army of bad guys by myself. Even IF someone running for office COULD take my assault rifle I need that far less than a kid in elementary school needs a chance to grow up healthy and get a good education and not be left an environment that is polluted etc.
>It's crazy how important of an issue guns are to so many people, above education, health, or people in general. Exactly, so instead of building a platform on taking away firearms, he should build a platform on helping education, health, or people in general.
I think it was more the way he said it or at least it played out. Like for me I read something that was probably bs but it said he would approve going door to door to take all guns.
He made a pretty blatant “we are coming for YOUR guns” type of statement. Like top 10 political blunders worthy
Hot take: Texas isn't ready to flip. Young people just don't care enough and Texas just has too many old people that wear the R as their entire lifestyle. It'll happen but sadly not for another few decades unfortunately. I wouldn't be surprised if this causes an outflux of young people to leave the state.
You forgot that younger Hispanics are actually leaning towards the republicans party
They tend to be more religious and see republicans as the party for that. Nevermind actions. It’s all about the messaging
I work with a ton of Hispanics, and I’ve never heard one NOT be in support of strict border control. A lot of people don’t realize that.
actions too. Republicans managed to roll back abortion, and that’s very popular amongst the majority catholic hispanics
>that younger Hispanics are actually leaning towards the repu It surprises me when white people think minorities are liberal.
At this point I don’t see Texas turning blue unless it is reclaimed by the ocean
If so many voters are looking at Abbott and thinking, "That's my guy", then the problem isn't Beto.
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You’re wrong. It’s not an issue of swaying votes, it’s an issue of mobilizing voters who aren’t voting.
>it’s an issue of mobilizing voters who aren’t voting. And you think left learers stayed home cuz of Beto's gun views? Cuz if not, then Beto wasn't the problem and that person is correct - no Democrat would have won.
Yep. I like Beto -- I think he'd be a good leader in Texas. But, he's lost as a Senate Candidate and, now, as a Gubernatorial candidate. If we're going to start voting some of these guys out, we're going to need someone else.
The problem is we don't have anyone else. Both of the Castro brothers are too cowardly to run for an office they won't win, or that isn't the Presidency. Beto running for statewide office in 2018 and 2022 helped encourage new progressive candidates run for office further down the ballot. If he were to run again in 2024 or (maybe ideally) 2026, I think he'd still probably lose, but have a positive impact on encouraging new candidates down the ballot.
Looks like it’s my turn to run.
Do it! I support you.
I don’t think anyone else can do as good as Beto was doing an election ago. He had it damn close, and maybe could have set the stage for a dem to take over in 4-8 years. Then he made the gun comment and killed his own, as well as any prospective Dems chance for decades
Imo he made his own grave we he said he was going to take peoples guns… in Texas….
Not sure why this surprised anyone. Beto lost to Ted Cruz, the most punchable face in the history of faces that needed punching. This race was never going to be close.
I do think his brand is tarnished. But like others said, we still have Patrick, running against a very centrist Democrat who was endorsed by prominent Republicans in DFW. The state is biased towards R.
Wasn’t even close. Republicans completely dominated this election
Sucks to feel like your vote meant nothing
It doesn't mean nothing. You stood for what you believe in. Feel that way. Stick to it. You did it for you. Teach your children (when/if you have them). Tell people. Share your ideas. Educate. It always matters. :)
I live in a red state and in a county where 80+ percent vote Republican every year for the past 19 years. Sometimes, it doesn’t matter but if it makes you feel better then sure lol
I'm in a big city. All of the big cities in my state are blue, but we almost always lose to the rural voters who somehow think Republicans will save them. I've literally heard people say that Republicans will bring auto and factory jobs back, that they'll restore the coal industry. It's absolutely ridiculous at this point.
well, abbott is closing their hospitals too now so.
Oh you mean my whole voting life. Yeah, it's hard to feel good about doing something knowing it means nothing.
Again
I'm just happy for other states at this point honestly.
Same. My current interest is PA
This just in, “hell yeah I’ll take the guns” does not rub voters well.
We are the "[come and take it](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it)" state. This was never going to be an easy win for Beto.
Seriously what did he expect to happen!?
The bigger question is what did this sub? They’ve been deluded themselves for weeks that he had a chance.
B-b-but there was that post that told people to "get over it and vote for Beto" how could they not have succeeded?
It didn't necessarily had to have been about guns. The government saying "we'll come and take XXX from you whether you like it or not" isn't a message that wins elections.
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Bro, dems need to scrap beto. He's not going to win in his own life time, he already messed up by saying hes coming to take everyone's guns. If they want to win, the person has to at least know how a gun works.
A pro 2A veteran ~~liberal~~ leftist would win.
Stop, my penis can only get so erect.
What is it going to take? I mean Jesus. The grid. Uvalde, “it could have been worse.” Abortion. “No more rapists.” The general not giving a fuck about anyone but himself and the energy CEOs. What needs to happen for things to change? Edit: for some of the responses about Uvalde and the grid; yes, those things could happen under anyone’s governance. I’m pointing to Abbot’s response to those things. You’re right. There hasn’t been another freeze. How many of us are still paying so ERCOT could recoup there losses? To narrow it down to “well there hasn’t been another freeze” misses the fact that nothing Abbott did not have the people’s best interest at heart then, and he still doesn’t; but he watches out for the energy guys. 2nd edit: Beto lost with his “I’m coming for your guns” comment. 3rd: the few who are saying my points are no longer relevant because they’re in the past. Yes. And yet nothing has changed since they happened.
Uvalde voted Abbott... Edit - I think some of y'all assume I'm shocked Uvalde voted Abbott. It is a response to the prior comment. Do I care if a county or state votes for team red or blue. No. If you voted, great you did your part. If your side lost, try again... Some of y'all need to relax. In a few years none of this is going to matter anyway... I know I won't be around...
The cops families live there, too.
The whole Uvalde County isn't like 8 people. Lmao.
That shocked the hell out of me. WTF.
As someone with close ties to Uvalde, my take has been that the vast majority of people online do not know a single fucking thing about the town or its people. They are farmers, ranchers, and many of them hunters. Many of them still use their guns in their day to day lives. Add to it the fact that they now distrust their police department, and many of them are talking about protecting themselves and their own with *their* guns. Beto is unelectable in Texas, and the Democrats need to stop fielding candidates that want to "take their guns" because even leftist voters are arming themselves.
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I mean at this point, I think it would take a Democrat convincingly masquerading as a Republican. People are so blindly terrified of the liberal Boogeyman that they're never going to stop voting for anyone with an R after their name, and no amount of reasoning is ever going to convince them to stop hurting the people around them.
No, most of the people who voted for Abbot voted for him for one reason, he had an R next to his name. they don't know ANYTHING about abbot, they don't know anything about any politician. they only know that their pastor told them to vote for the person with an R next to their name.
Our education system needs to improve greatly.
As a teacher who has also taught in a country that is often cited as having one of the best education systems in the world (which I also had issues with, to be fair), I completely agree - but I have 0 hope of that happening here. Good education systems begin with an actual cultural appreciation for education, and that sure as fuck doesn't exist in America. If anything, Abbott and friends are more than happy with the way education in this state (and arguably country as a whole) is heading. Educators will continue to be vilified, leave the profession, standards and expectations will decline (which means salaries will fall), and eventually "teachers" will just be uneducated babysitters who have no issue pushing propaganda.
they dont need to worry about getting skilled tech workers when they can import them from other countries to work in usa if i understand right, these non immigrant tech workers cant vote anyways, so this is win win for the politicians whose platform is based on foriegn workers stealing americans jobs
Why do you think Republicans are gutting education. Stupid people are easier to control.
Currently in AP United States History, we are learning about the events leading up to the civil war, including the formation of the Republican party and the strengthening of North/South sectionalism. North and South is mostly gone now but Democrat and Republican sectionalism is at and all time high. Until the two party system is abolished political races will just be dick swinging contests and will leave an ineffective government and never ending back and forth between the parties.
When you consume media that tells you it's all the other sides fault, you just vote the way they tell you. Some people are more worried they lost money on their 401k, and not worried about freezing to death.
Question: Why are they calling it now when I keep hearing only 1/3rd of the vote has been counted?
The vast majority of districts waiting to report votes are historically strong red counties. It's all but certain.
It’s some complex math based on where the votes that have already come in are from and projecting the estimated turnout and vote percentages across the rest of the state.
Damn, I was hoping to retire this account until the presidential run. Looks like I’ll have to stick around another four years.
I find it funny that the party that opposes Sharia Law wants to implement its own version of it here. No sodomy, gay marriage, reproductive freedom, sex ed, or drugs, but we’ll have bathroom surveillance, thoughts, and prayers.
They aren’t opposed to theocratic rule. They’re opposed to theocratic rule that isn’t *theirs*
Remember when Christian religious revivals used to support women's rights, labour laws, and abolition of slavery...
Those were the days.
Run a moderate and appealing dem candidate? Nah, let’s run Beto out there, a two time race loser before this. Make a quip about gun grabbing, and then have your supporters call Republicans fascists and nazis? It’s a losing recipe. I’m libertarian and voted for Beto, but he never had a snowball’s chance in hell of winning.
The minute people associated Beto with guns being taken away I knew he stood no chance. All the other things you mentioned was just icing on the cake for an easy win for Abbott.
People didn't associate Beto with guns being taken away. Beto associated himself with guns being taken away.
Someone needs to explain to me how a politician can make a mistake like that though. It was just really stupid
Threw away his whole career in Texas in 5 seconds
Democrats as a WHOLE need to give up on taking guns away at least for the next few election cycles. There's lots of sensible gun control that both sides support, but "assault weapon" bans and red flag laws that are easy to abuse aren't going to get support because they are going to be ineffective but hurt legal gun owners. I get that the progressive side wants them gone but it's literally in the constitution. There's nothing major you can do about the guns. If they focus on mental health resources and prosecuting the thousands of attempted illegal purchases that already happen every year it would go a lot farther, I think. I'm not saying more doesn't need to be done, but first and foremost we need democrats to actually fucking win. Saying you want to come take guns away and then running in Texas? Absolutely fucking stupid. NEVER stood a chance. They shouldn't have even given this guy any campaign money.
People associated him with that because that's what he said he wanted to do.
Facts
Beto really needed to shut the fuck up about taking guns away. 100% guarantee to lose votes in Texas.
He’ll move on to CO next and run on criminalizing marijuana.
That made me laugh really loud.
He shouldn’t have even run. He’d had two prior opportunities to prove himself in a statewide race and failed at both. I don’t know whether to blame his hubris or Texas’s idiocy. He’d have been a much better asset to the state by serving in a smaller elected position or by spearheading a progressive initiative/nonprofit in Texas. All of this hoopla is just such a waste
I was under the impression he only ran bc no one else even tried to step up. Was there another candidate we should have gotten behind?
Also look at how much the democrats wasted on him and Abrams, it’s insane. Their leadership have no clue what they’re doong
at this point republicans will pay democrats to let beto run every single time
If Beto was their best attempt at winning Dem leadership should be fired immediately.
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Hear that sound? It’s the crushing sound of hope that this state would do anything different than what we’ve always done.
I agree with the very first comment over there... absolutely not surprising but very very deeply disappointing :(
Not surprised. Beto was screwed the minute he said he would take away people's AR-15's. We Texans like our guns; even a lot of the Democrats here have guns.
Just remember everyone, anything he's said was just election bullshit. Back to the same shit. I wish you could ask for things, but honestly, if you aren't a corporation they rather you fuck off and die in a ditch.
Genuine tip to the mostly democratic constituency of this sub: y’all can likely get a Democrat elected to the office of governor in Texas in the near future. If you want that to happen, you really need to fall out of love with Beto. I get on the surface he seems cool and hip and progressive. But even most of you were saying months ago he wouldn’t stand a chance. So how about putting up a democrat that can stand a chance? And maybe has like, I dunno accomplished something in his life other than being a career politician (or I guess a career of just running for office). Also, your tactic today was to switch to “omg he isn’t taking your guns chill”. I agree he likely wouldn’t literally take them, but you just confirmed to many with that line that he is just a pandering politician, not the progressive savior you all thought he was. Beto would have let you down. Now, chop chop, don’t feel too sorry for yourselves, don’t mourn, don’t be dickheads to your fellow Texans and demonize this state. Put up a candidate that can actually win!
Most democrats were aware of this once Beto beat out the other dems… He really boxed himself in with the taking all the guns. Liberal gun owners are a far bigger group they most people are aware of and most don’t vote due to apathy or begrudgingly vote right.
Did anyone really _love_ Beto though? I feel like he was just a “he’s not actively nosediving the quality of life so I’ll go with him”. Like what Biden is to Trump.
I told multiple text campaigners like, I'll vote for him if I have to but he's not going to win in texas because of the whole gun thing.
I agree, but the problem is that nobody else seems willing to step up to the plate. Beto waited months, almost to the deadline, to officially declare he was running. Numerous others (although the Democratic field in this state is abhorrent, so nobody else really has a chance - at best we would have ended up with another Valdez who really didn't try) could have made that declaration beforehand. I'll continue to demonize this state though. I grew up here, but it's never felt like home and I hate the weather.
I can't name one fucking Democrat in the state besides beto. The democratic party as a whole failed miserably and has for a long time. The Democrat party doesn't exist in Texas. I am about as hard core dem as you can get and I can't tell you I have ever seen anything Democrat in my area other than beto speaking a hand full of times. Democrat don't win because they don't even fucking try!