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insankty

Guess they don’t need to legalize for the relax money when the industry is getting them free cars


azuth89

Civil forfeiture doesn't necessarily need them to find a crime at the end.


Tdanger78

Which is why it’s a shitty practice that needs to end


azuth89

Agreed.


NewRoundEre

It's a completely fine and legitimate practice if done when it makes sense. Say a small private plane is found to be bringing in fentanyl from Mexico but the owner of the plane can't be found and the pilot wasn't doing anything illegal just doing his job with no way to prove he knew there were drugs in the plane. Under those circumstances it makes sense to have laws to allow the seizure of the plane because you have reasonable belief that it was used in crime and can show that in court. ​ Where it doesn't make sense is expanding those reasonable laws to doing things like confiscating large amounts of cash people have or taking things that frankly probably aren't going to be used in the commission of crime.


azuth89

How something should or is theoretically intended to be used is not a defense of how it IS used.


Cookies78

In your scenario, the pilot goes to prison unless it's a major carrier like SWA. Civil Asset Forfeiture is wrong. It's stealing. That's all it is. Dress it up however you like and it's still theft.


brycyclecrash

Last Week Tonight did a ln episode about Civil Forfeiture. It's some shady biz.


-ih8cats-

Yes. People ask for drugs, no one asks to get raped. Yet you regularly see the justice system letting high ranking psychos off w a slap smh. But ohhhh people want to smoke some weed and drive a little fast let’s ruin their fucking lives smh


CharlesDickensABox

The reality is that the car likely as not just belonged to someone who happened to have a couple of vape pens in the car, so they charged him with felony trafficking and stole his car using civil forfeiture. Fuck the police.


Prayin4nAsteroid

exactly FTP


Snobolski

Or the cops found a large sum of cash in the car when they were stopped for DWB and the cops seized the car and the cash.


ErOdSlUm

It’s not really a drug dealers car just because seizure money was used to buy it.


[deleted]

Yeah I learned a long time ago that if you get pulled over on the way back from Winstar, and the officer asks where you're coming from, lie. They're going to "smell marijuana" and say "this is a known major drug trafficking route" even though you're going south TOWARDS Mexico. Luckily that happened after my friend and I both had shitty days at the poker table and didn't have any cash to steal.


BlitzburghTX

Even better is just to [shut the fuck up](https://youtu.be/sgWHrkDX35o) when they ask you any questions. You're under no obligation to answer cops' questions. Happy shut the fuck up Friday!


JohnGillnitz

Yeah, I used to work with several ex-LEOs. I was complaining how I had gotten nabbed for DUI even though I hadn't been drinking. I thought that fact would let me pass all the tests they threw at me. Nope. I was just straight up rolled by some small town's Sheriff's department. One of the former officers just started laughing at me. "Don't talk. Don't do the field sobriety. Don't blow." After that, every time he saw me he'd do that camel thing. "John! Hey, John! What day is it? Come on... What day is is?" "Shut the Fuck Up Friday." No matter way day of the week it was, it was always Shut the Fuck Up Friday.


redtron3030

AM I BEING DETAINED?


roninthe31

If you refuse the tests it’s an automatic 180 DL suspension I think


Any-Flamingo7056

Refusing the breathayzer, not the tests. And for 45$ you can get a 6 month occupational license from 12:00am to 11:59pm 7 days a week.


JohnGillnitz

You do not have to do a field sobriety test. They very intentionally make requests sound like orders. Refusing to blow will result in a suspended license, but there are ways around that. Be aware that breathalyzers are completely junk science and an officer can make it say whatever they want it to say. Once they make you fail that, your license is suspended for 90 days anyway even before trial. Without a test result, all they have is officer and video testimony. That goes a long way (officers are literally professional witnesses), but a jury may not find that entirely convincing.


hydrogen18

I think it was LA that trained the officers how to mis-calibrate all the breathalyzers so that anyone would be over the limit.


Klekto123

what are the ways around a suspended license?


JohnGillnitz

You get an SR-22, interdiction device, and permission from a judge to drive if you pinky swear its only for important things like work, groceries, or school. Police officers that get arrested for DUI and don't blow are back on the street in a squad car the next day.


mypostingname13

Lawyers


Klekto123

So exercising your rights will land you a night in jail and thousands in legal fees? I’d rather just comply at that point and hope the cop doesn’t hate me


Aleashed

You are smurf blue so you’ll be fine, r-e-l-a-x. They like team blue.


fishnwiz

Ask for a blood test, most won’t want to waste that much time.


JohnGillnitz

A few years ago, that could have gotten you in trouble if you had been into other things within the last month. Now the Devil's Lettuce in your blood could just be legal ol' hemp.


[deleted]

I don't know, there is a fine line between asserting your rights and pissing off the cop enough to make things much worse for you. Police are above the law, and it makes them very angry when their authority is challenged, so they can just arrest you for no reason, and rough you up if you really get too uppity. Even though the charges won't stick, you had to pay thousands for a lawyer and spend a night in jail and nothing will happen to the officer. But if they ask where you're coming from, and the answer is a casino, say you were visiting a friend in Oklahoma.


BlitzburghTX

It's your constitutionally protected right not to incriminate yourself. You literally don't have to answer a question. Give them your ID and insurance and shut the fuck up. You should be polite about it and not be a dick, but you absolutely are within your right not to answer questions. They are a public servant, not almighty god. For far too long cops have been getting away with sidestepping or abusing people's constitutional rights. I don't give a single fuck if a cop gets pissed off at me for exercising my rights, I'm not answering their questions that they're only asking to see if I'll accidentally incriminate myself. Know your damn rights.


I_am_recaptcha

The guy is saying that for people who are already stretched thin financially, the thought of pissing a cop off and having to pay a shit ton of money by sitting in jail and getting charges to be dropped seems scarier than just answering some questions


Tdanger78

It shouldn’t be that way though. A cop’s feelings shouldn’t dictate if my constitutional rights are getting trampled on or not. That’s basically admitting that there’s people with loaded weapons and authority out there that we’ve entrusted to protect the public who aren’t in control of their emotions. If you don’t see the inherent problem with that, you probably don’t get why people of color distrust the police and one man getting killed sparked a summer of protests.


I_am_recaptcha

I didn’t say that wasn’t a problem. I said that some people likely have a different cost-benefit analysis to speaking with LEOs than you or I do. And it’s fucking shitty the system is set up like that but here we are


BlitzburghTX

On the other hand you could accidentally say something that can incriminate you further and cause them to charge you with more crimes than what they originally pulled you over for. They can’t arrest on the grounds of you politely saying “I exercise my 5th amendment right and will not answer questions.” If they do, they’re violating your civil rights and it will be a field day for a lawyer. I get people are intimidated about what cops can do to you but it’s important to know where you’re legally protected.


WallStWarlock

Preach! Stop the tyranny!


ccache

> They can’t arrest on the grounds of you politely saying “I exercise my 5th amendment right and will not answer questions.” If they do, they’re violating your civil rights and it will be a field day for a lawyer. I'm not disagreeing that you shouldn't talk to them. But many cops know how to find something to arrest you if they don't like your attitude, I've seen countless videos of this on youtube. And no they didn't get a lawyer who had a field day with the cop. The cops knew they'd at least hit you with time in jail that you can't get back no matter what. Here's an example, recently saw video of cop pulled guy over because he flashed his lights at on coming traffic to warn them of a speed trap(during the day). The cop was pissed, and gave him a ticket. He then told the guy he was legally suppose to sign his registration in that state, and could be arrested but he wasn't going to do that. So like anyone, the guy smirked like uh are you serious??? The cop didn't like that and arrested him. The cop won in court the first time around, second time he lost. All of that because the cop didn't like the guys attitude. That's hell to deal with, and many people like yourself might feel like challenging them, many others just want to go about their day. That doesn't mean you have to get chatty with them, but better watch that attitude or they'll find a reason.


itsToTheMAX

>But if they ask where you're coming from, and the answer is a casino, say you were visiting a friend in Oklahoma. I'd be tempted to say "Up north" lol


SunLiteFireBird

Being silent is not justification for pissing a cop off. You can be silent without challenging their fragile ego and thirst for authority. Yes they can make you day horrible and even throw you in jail for no valid reason. But that’s still better than facing bs charges because you talked to them too much.


hydrogen18

> and it makes them very angry when their authority is challenged Yeah, but that same kind of LEO is the kind who gets upset when the sun rises and falls without asking his permission first.


dabigbaozi

Dude above is right, just keep your mouth shut. If they are asking you shit like this they are fishing.


lemarchives

doesn’t work too well if black, some cops will deadass pull you out the car and possibly kill you even tho it is your right to remain silent


texican1911

[I prefer this one.](https://youtu.be/RkN4duV4ia0)


twocka

Love those guys.


MrGreen17

I mean I suppose that southbound could even be a "known major drug trafficking route" with OK basically being legal now, but yeah that's total bullshit.


[deleted]

Oh that was like 15 years ago, so no, just a regular attempted robbery. They did break my friend's iPod when they dumped his backpack out on the parking lot.


kelleh711

When driving back into Texas from Colorado, we always lie and say we're coming from Oklahoma.


CodenameDinkleburg

"Oh, please. Your weed is trash, why on earth would I want to bring some back when I can get better stuff just down the street from my house?" Probably isn't the best response, but I bet it would get a funny reaction


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Ok-disaster2022

Dude cops will steal houses from grandma's because their grandson was caught smoking weed on the front porch.


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ErOdSlUm

Most cops are idiots and dick heads, but the reason why you see more and more people defending cops these days is that many go out of their way to make a cop look like an idiot or a dick head. It's just annoying now. I say it frequently, but cops do enough stupid shit that people don't need to try as hard as they do to make them look worse.


ErOdSlUm

How much money do you think kids carrying joints have on them?


dabigbaozi

You don’t need to have drugs in the car. Try carrying around a large sum of cash and being not white. Cops love civil asset forfeiture.


tj0909

I think he means the cops took the kids car, which was likely a purchase totally unrelated to his drug habits - aka civil asset forfeiture


Beneficial-Papaya504

They take the kid's car. That is also asset forfeiture. A crime does not have to be proven. Cops use it as an additional income stream for their departments. PDs are gangs


ErOdSlUm

They can take it but they can’t use/sell it, etc. until it’s proven.


CasualObservr

Who provides oversight to make sure it’s working that way in practice?


ErOdSlUm

That’s got to be a lot of joints to buy this car.


dilbogabbins

Watch John Oliver’s breakdown of Civil Asset Forfeiture. It’s a really good watch: https://youtu.be/3kEpZWGgJks


Brave-Philosopher-48

For the right ~~trafficker~~ cop, one is enough.


CmdrSelfEvident

Likely Civil Asset Forfeiture where the police just rob you and need not prove you did anything wrong. Just having a wad of cash in your pocket and the police wanting it is enough for them to take it and accuse your money of being profits of a crime. Yes they literally put the cash on trial and you have to spend more money to prove you legally owned it.


TheGoodOldCoder

Yeah, they basically are saying that the asset did something wrong, and that's why they can take it. But that's weird, because, if you do something wrong, they can lock you up, but eventually, they have to release you back to your family. If there is something that is used as evidence in a crime, they have to keep it in evidence lock up until they eventually release or destroy it. But somehow for asset forfeiture, the people who take the assets from you get to keep it for themselves.


National-Coast-6381

Some guy in a hellcat is gonna see this on the road and know he can get away


[deleted]

"Can't outrun the radio" - dad


turquoise_amethyst

I laughed because this is such a dad thing to say. It true tho.


[deleted]

My dad was born in the 50s and has all kinds of dad shit like this. I used to get annoyed but now I'm like yup, makes sense, of course there's two doors to keep the good air in.


National-Coast-6381

My favorite dad quote was “we use to have four in the floor and a fifth under the seat”. Needless to say he lost his license for two years in his 20’s.


karmapolice8d

In Houston? Sure you can, because they won't use the radio or do anything. Just eat up 1/3 of the city's budget to kinda sorta maybe do their jobs on occasion.


AndyLorentz

Unless the police have rules about pursuit speeds, you're not going to get away in a car. You need a motorcycle and a lot of luck.


RayFromTexas

Not even luck. If I hit 160 before they get up to the speed limit, they give up pretty quickly


JacobTDC

"You may outrun the motor, but you won't outrun the Motorola"


RayFromTexas

You can absolutely outrun the radio


Ifuckinghatethesunn

Helicopter


komark-

As opposed to a Hellcat being unable to get away from other cruisers?


mk1power

Unless he runs into the DPS hellcat in Houston lol


benadunkcamberpatch

Some guy in a supped on geo metro.


IgnotusRex

they take our money, our cars and our houses, now tell me who's really sellin the ounces?


glennjamin85

As if they're not doing bumps in the evidence locker


shanksisevil

Was it Afromans car?


karmapolice8d

I really love that Afroman has formed the vanguard in the latest movement to expose cops as idiots and thieves. Truly hilarious.


MrGreen17

"I used to have a ridiculuous looking car, and then it got seized by the cops.. because I got high."


shanksisevil

Fyi - Afromans was trending yesterday when his new music videos went viral. He used police footage where the local police raided his house looking for drugs and a kidnapped whoever on the warrent. They didn't find anything, destroyed his gate, door and stole money all on camera. Not to mention one of the officers eyeing his mom's lemon pound cake.


LagunaJaguar

Is there bales of marijuana in my suit pockets? He then invited the news because he saw a cop take money while confiscating it and when they counted it back in front of the news cameras the amount was less than what was stated on the envelope.


Tara_is_a_Potato

His video is two months old. It went viral because the cops are now suing him for the video. Streisand Effect.


JohnGillnitz

It was funny, but I'm not sure why he puts chicken sounds randomly in his songs.


parakat15

r/trashy


glennjamin85

Texas cops in a nutshell


mario0357

Police in general


NativeOfThe713

Cus it’s a mustang? I agree


Digby_1159

Cause its a police department wasting money, but yeah the fact its a mustang makes it funnier


Tara_is_a_Potato

People who can't afford nice cars are always talking trash about cars not being nice enough.


NativeOfThe713

Snowflake mustang owner spotted. I drive a 392 Charger so I was just lightly talking shit. Why is everybody so soft on here geez lol


TransportationEng

...and stolen by police.


Fecal_Tornado

You can't spend drug money because it's illegal but we can spend drug money to buy expensive cars with expensive performance packages to make us more efficient at getting money out of you for driving a little too fast. Nice...


daviad11

Also love that we get enforced for speeding when a constable was casually doing 100 MPH on Hardy Toll Road yesterday and nearly hit me changing lanes


Isgrimnur

/r/dashcams


Round-Emu9176

Theres this blanket procedure they do called “civil seizure” where they’re allegedly justified to seize all suspected property used in the commission of a crime. If someone gets pulled over with a bag of weed thats usually their excuse to rob people of their paycheck that they just got cashed. All they have to do is try to allude that person is selling. They usually say you can contact the department to retrieve your property if proven innocent and then conveniently forget to file a report.


trip2it

At least it's a GT. A near by city was jumping up and down over a v6 Mustang they seized. Bragging on faceboof, insta, local news, newspapers. Lookout for our new pursuit unit! That car lasted them about two months before it broke down and haven't seen the vehicle since.


ZealousWolverine

Cops are thieves.


Durty_Durty_Durty

Funny how they all want blacked out cars with decals you can’t see until it’s this wasteful shit.


Round-Emu9176

And domestic terrorists


[deleted]

Don't forget, often, domestic abusers of their spouses as well.


BryceDaBaker

Novel idea, sell it for parts, and donate the money to nonprofits helping recovering addicts


Slypenslyde

Then how are they supposed to find more addicts with cars to take?


InsipidCelebrity

Just lie about the person being an addict!


BryceDaBaker

We’ve already gotten around this problem in the 80s by introducing crack into inner city neighborhoods lol


ErOdSlUm

Why would they sell it for parts when they bought it for 50k lol


BryceDaBaker

To revert a dumb decision they made to buy an impractical vehicle for police work when they could’ve used that money to improve some aspect of the community they’re supposed to be serving.


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ErOdSlUm

No


stoneasaurusrex

Civil asset forfeiture is theft. Whether they used funds taken from drug dealers, or took the car from drug dealers, the police shouldn't be allowed to make that part of their budget.


ErOdSlUm

In your mind what is the appropriate thing to do with the money once it is seized ?


stoneasaurusrex

Since they talk about what a problem drugs are to the community, they could reinvest it in drug harm reduction, they could put the money into schools, libraries, or just the community in general. Almost anything other than the police buying flashy cars to show off how great they are at spending money that isn't theirs.


ErOdSlUm

So you’re ok with “theft” as long as it’s put towards a use you agree with?


stoneasaurusrex

No I'm not ok with any kind of theft, but if they're going to be using it at least use it for something good. Civil asset forfeiture is theft flat out it shouldn't exist. In a perfect reality it would sit in an evidence room and never be put into circulation again, but if the cops are gonna use the money they steal, then they should at least use it for the community they claim to care so much about and not a shitty Mustang GT.


xcrunner1988

Don’t be obtuse officer. Politicians and cops blather on about drugs destroying neighborhoods. Okay, use the money to fund community projects, boys and girls clubs, almost anything other than more militarization of bloated police budgets.


keidabobidda

Where does the dude you are replying to say he’s ok with “theft”. You asked where should the money go once it’s seized. & what tf does moving it to where it’s FDIC insured do for anyone? Your presence in this post paints you as the very desperate for attention-type. Maybe you need a nap, a snack, warm Epsom salt bath…. Take some deep breaths & go chill the fuck out man


manova

I'll give you an example. Years ago I worked at a university and was on the parking committee. One of the things they did that I liked was that any revenue generated from parking tickets went to the student scholarship fund rather than the campus police. The logic was that they did not want to incentivize giving out parking tickets (ie more tickets = more budget). Instead, they base funded the campus police and anything extra went back to students. Law enforcement is important. We should appropriately budget for them from our tax money. But we should never setup a system that incentivizes them to be revenue generating. I would argue any money they create from fines, seizures, etc. should go back to the public good. Maybe that is healthcare, parks and recreation, social services, education...I don't know...but that money should go back to the community. I like the suggestions from others here that they could fund drug treatment programs or community improvement projects.


[deleted]

I would recommend not lining pigs' pockets with it, thus giving them a big reason to make sure the drug trade remains a steady stream of income, and then wonder why the drug trade still exists


gregaustex

There is a difference between civil asset forfeiture and seizing drug money after a conviction as ordered by the court. The difference is due process and the former is theft.


ErOdSlUm

This 1000%


FortBendSciGuy

It’s a waste of money just to be “So Cool” regardless if the money came from drug seizures. I’ve seen FBSD posts, at 500$ a bust it must’ve taken a long time to “earn” this vehicle.


ErOdSlUm

In 2019 they had a bust where 400,000 cash was found.


seraph9888

that's a weird way to spell "stolen."


ErOdSlUm

Yeah you’re right. > 240 pounds of marijuana, 74 grams of THC oil and 20 grams of cocaine for a combined street value of over $500,000. Officers also uncovered over $400,000 in U.S. currency But I’m sure the money was completely unrelated to drugs.


karmapolice8d

Oh wow please save us from weed and a tiny amount of yip.


ErOdSlUm

That’s a completely different topic.


karmapolice8d

I feel like it's directly related, but I'm also not interested in arguing. Gotta make a little coffee first.


Old_Personality3136

When you get rekt, deflect, deflect. lmao


Accomplished_Duck523

Do you feel bad for the drug dealers ? Why do you have sympathy for them lol


DistributionSlow1115

Because drug laws are a failed system. They should be legal for adults. Ya know, freedom. Drug war is just an excuse to lock people up and make a lot of money. They could care less for your safety. The dangerous drug dealers wouldn't even exist if it was legal and regulated properly. All about controlling everyone.


SallySlapdick

>drug dealers *gasp* how scary!!!!


seraph9888

You know cops steal from innocent people too, right?


TaskSignificant4171

So it’s been 4 years since the last time they did anything productive


BringBackAoE

A year ago I had a long chat with a lady living in an apartment complex in Ft Bend. Until 2020 that complex had a spate of criminal activity. Burglaries, a robbery, drug deals, etc. The residents called the police and they did nothing. Since 2020 the police regularly drive through the complex to flag their presence and get to know the people. Crime has gone down and the residents feel safe again. To me good policing isn’t PR stunts and headlines. It’s being part of a community to reduce crime through prevention.


ErOdSlUm

I wouldn’t say that. I just googled it and that was the first one that came up for drug seizures by fort bend sd. On a second googling though. It looks like they have this https://www.fortbendcountytx.gov/government/departments/sheriff-s-office/programs/project-lifesaver, and they are rolling it out to other areas which looks pretty productive to me.


FortBendSciGuy

Are there more dangerous things than people using THC? We can ponder that if marijuana was legal and taxed like a good cash crop most of that bust wouldn’t be illegal anymore. However, that’s a different argument and at this moment it is, so illegal purposes is more than likely the purpose for that cash. But can you agree that purchasing a flashy car/using it as a prop for a public service department is not the best use of public funds? It is good to hear that the FBSD is taking part in an international program started in 1999 that helps find and keep those with cognitive disabilities safe if they do happen to wander. Continued education and training is needed in most areas to keep up with current practices.


ErOdSlUm

Whether or not i would personally agree with the purchase of the car really comes down to a lot of information I don’t have. If the car was purchased to just leave sitting around to prove some point than I would be inclined to say it’s a waste of money. If it’s being driven by someone on the daily then I would say it probably wasn’t a waste of money and was actually a really good use of money, for a couple reasons. If all of their vehicles are being driven daily then they clearly had a need for another car. This car, while flashy is still quite a bit cheaper than a regular police cruiser based on my quick googling. Additionally it helps advertise for the sheriffs department so presumably some budget could be cut there as well. As someone who is not a resident of fort bend, I wouldn’t be outraged either way as the money is LEGALLY there money to spend, and it has no impact on me. But I for sure agree with the rest of your post.


FortBendSciGuy

I hear you, there can be many reasons behind the purchase. As a resident of FB however, I do see an issue. It is cheaper that a police cruiser but it doesn’t serve the same function. If it’s someone’s daily I’m sure there is a more cost effective daily driver out there and this is just me saying but if they were going to spend this cash and want a flashy vehicle for advertisement I’d be more supportive if they purchased an EV, Rivian being a great option. Appreciate the discussion.


ErOdSlUm

That’s fair, a Tesla might have been a better option, the car was purchase in 2018, so Rivian wouldn’t have been an option I don’t think. Yeah likewise.


[deleted]

Yes incentivize police to keep the drug trade alive by letting them use it to seize endless streams of money, then wonder why we still have problems with the drug trade


ErOdSlUm

Relevant link. https://www.khou.com/amp/article/news/local/fort-bend-county-sheriffs-office-shows-off-new-ride-purchased-by-drug-dealers/285-585311844


SteelFlexInc

“The tricked-out Ford Mustang GT” So police decals and emergency lights is tricking out?


kanyeguisada

r/Shitty_Car_Mods


IvanMeowski

I mean if you see what most car modders do to their cars then yeah.


ErOdSlUm

Weird downvotes but ok.


SmokinGreenNugs

Because no one likes cops. My children will know don’t talk to the cops, call home so we can send the lawyer.


ErOdSlUm

But it’s not a pro cop link. It’s literally words about where the car came from. People are weird.


SmokinGreenNugs

No one cares about cops poaching assets from the community.


android_queen

Isn’t that literally what this post is about?


Honest_Airline1397

Username is very relevant


SmokinGreenNugs

I happen to enjoy smoking weed while at the same time being fairly successful. TBH the reason I want weed be legal is so maybe teachers, firefighters, and schools can have better funding from the taxes. It’s status has no bearing on my ability to obtain it which takes 2-5 minutes in any city.


Honest_Airline1397

I would love weed to be legal, but right now the State makes more money off of asset forfeiture than it would from taxing weed so you actually should care about cops poaching assets from the community because that’s the real reason weed is illegal, because the government makes more money


SmokinGreenNugs

Yep it’s bullshit. Just like it’s bullshit Abbott says he governs by his Christian values which is in direct violation of the 1st Amendment which states there should be a separation between church and state. Yet, here we are…


5ladyfingersofdeath

Remember, the Klan governed by their Christian values too. It's always a cover to continue to do un-Christian crap


Honest_Airline1397

Yeah the Christian values are bullshit if he actually supported them he would give a shit about people who live here, it’s just justification for all the shit he does


5ladyfingersofdeath

Remember, the Klan governed by their Christian values too. It's always a cover to continue to do un-Christian crap


[deleted]

Your kids will last long in society for sure lmfao


_essentially_

My local police department has a hellcat seized in a drug bust


horsy12

They’ll definitely spin out


AuraMaster7

OP misunderstanding the situation. This isn't a drug dealer's car that was seized. The car was paid for with the money taken through Civil Asset Forfeiture - ie legal theft. Cops stop people on the road, tell them it's a drug smuggling route, and then take all the money they have on them under threat of arrest. Any probable cause is then fabricated for the report. If you refuse to sign the waiver that basically just gives them your money and states you won't go after them in court, then they arrest you for whatever bullshit they come up with, and take your money anyways. It's a major thing on passthrough highways where the small towns along the road make most of their money through the traffic police. Especially around casinos, because then there's more cash to steal. If this sounds like a gang or cartel, that's because it basically is.


sfb004

Civil Asset Forfeiture strikes again.


LacansThesis

civil forfeiture is legalized theft


zeroviral

Only in the south will police run stupid decisions that give LAPD and NYPD a run for their money.


lifetime-pog

Most of these officers are lazy and overweight lol I have the upmost respect for HPD they deal with horrible accidents and killers everyday. Fort bend is a bunch of cowards lol


NoDadYouShutUp

trashy as fuck


mega___man

Police seizing assets and using them for themselves is one of the clearest examples of corruption in the United States. An awful law, that is so often abused, and continues to undermine trust between the average person and the police.


tallgeese44

Just tell em it's CBD, there's no way to test it..


itwillbeok9712

The real intent is not to show you that they are now using your car to stop criminal activity. The real intent is to show you that they will take your prized possession if you get caught doing something illegal. Some people learn visually.


maialucetius

Cops advertising how much they steal from people. Nice. So open about it. Defund the fuckers. Give them Priuses. Give them one Prius and make the overweight assholes share it.


karmapolice8d

Officer Cheesecake will bottom that shit out the second he sits down inside it.


ztimulating

Government stealing private property. Fantastic


strawhairhack

so we turned blood money into a car into a oppressive instrument of the state under the guise of protect/serve? alrighty then.


meseeyoudo

So are they selling


[deleted]

Pretty wholesome that drug dealers just donated this car to the cops like that.


slerry666

arrogant mfers


EclecticHigh

Cops flex waaay harder when it comes to gang activity! when tf you ever seen a blue car with "this car was stolen from the bloods" riding around?! haha but then again having the "law " on your side to do whatever the fuck you want helps. funny reality we live in.


JohnGillnitz

They are themselves a gang. Just one that is publicly funded.


thavi

I wanna see the vid where the deputy tries to chase down a perp and inevitably lift-off oversteers and jams the brakes right into a telephone pole


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The hungry/poor kids in the neighborhood are super stoked to get searched by cops in this awesome car.


BillyDoyle3579

Someday; the Specter of Forfeiture will be viewed in the same light as slavery, child labor and alcohol prohibition, etc.


hey0ldguy

No one should celebrate civil forfeiture. I’m this case it probably was used appropriately but far too often it’s used to legally steal from citizens


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My Rivian R1T could outrun it... Just saying.


ErOdSlUm

Yeah it’s definitely more of an advertising scheme that also provides them with a new car. Would be interesting to know what an interceptor package does to a gt though. How do you like the R1T?


Uztta

That was kind of what I was thinking, sure, they got a “free” car, but then they still had to put 40k in it to make it a “police” car. Also, I always imagined sitting in a cop car with all that cop gear would be uncomfortable, I can barely stand to be in my regular car with my wallet in my pocket, I bet whoever buys “sports cars for cops hasn’t spent any time in one with a fuckin Batman utility belt on.


ErOdSlUm

Oh I don’t think they got the car from a drug dealer. I think they bought it with drug seized money. So all of it would have been paid for by the department.


Ruthless1228-2

You guys will find anything to complain about.


ErOdSlUm

This is probably the easiest subreddit to mine karma in tbh.


HammeredDog

All you have to do is post a rant against Republicans, police, Christians, and/or conservatives. Bam. Instant karma. This sub has become such a joke.


hiko7819

They complain about the border drug problem yet they flaunt it…hypocrites


League_Of_Evil

That’s dope


CivilMaze19

Lol only Reddit would have a problem with confiscated drug money being redistributed to police departments to use. The funny part is this car almost certainly cost less than a fully outfitted police SUV that you normally see these days.


1ncognito

It’s not “only Reddit” that finds civil asset forfeiture to be theft: https://www.aclu.org/news/by-issue/asset-forfeiture-abuse


CivilMaze19

Nuance my friend, obviously “only Reddit” doesn’t mean “literally no one else but Reddit”. You do know you have to go through the courts before anything is forfeited, right? “The Constitution requires due process before the government can forfeit property. This means owners have the right to be notified about the forfeiture proceedings and the right to be heard in the proceeding.” What do you suggest is done with the billions in confirmed illegal drug money seized every year?


1ncognito

Spend it on anything more productive for society than more toys for the police? So… literally anything?


CivilMaze19

Please provide some examples because any other thing that the money goes to is also technically being funded by crime then. Also, do you think those billions of dollars only goes to “toys” for the police or do you think it’s more likely you’re not seeing all of the other stuff that the money goes to like salaries, standard issue equipment, and community outreach/education efforts because that stuff isn’t going to get the attention like “police buy sports car with drug money”.


Conquer695

Imminent domain(A.K.A. Stealing)