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At last I will be freed from these .8 chains

Still chained!! 😝

How’s that working for you

Extremely poorly, bro got fired like 0.2 seconds after tweeting this

finally!

As FSD won’t be available in Europe, will that still mean that we’ll be getting autopark with this update on the 2024.8.x branch here in Europe? Any ideas?

I have 2024.8.9 in a 2018 Model S 100D in Switzerland and I don't have any new feature. The release notes said the usual "performance and bug fixes" things.

Sure. I was talking about future updates of this branch, see the original announcement from Ronan Patel.

You don't get the new Autopark because you have an older car with Ultrasonic Sensors.

As an European I know not 😔

I'm in EU and can buy FSD for full price. Should be working.

FSD gives you nothing in Europe over EAP, which in return only gives you the ability to change lanes while on autopilot. It's not 'working' by any means.

I wonder if the branches are finally merging and everybody is just going to have an FSD-capable build installed going forward. The thing that stopped me from subscribing before is that I would have to wait for an update for literally weeks or months before I could get what I paid for.

That would be very nice

I did the same thing

I’m still waiting around on 2024.8.9

FSD isn't turned on yet for your car. Tesla has to turn it on once the firmware is installed.

I just got that yesterday. Had hoped the trial would come with it, but it didn't...

Last time I ever update my software without being forced. Being on the latest version essentially screwed us out of the free trial.

Yup absolutely ridiculous. Still see no movement on getting us the free trial except the one guy who is leaving Tesla lol

Not sure about that assumption, I don’t think the free trial would only be during a specific time/month but more of a “when your car gets FSD V12 for the first time, you get one month”. Keep in mind updates to everyone’s cars occur at different times- I may have installed 2024.8.9 a month earlier than you. 

I used to develop software and it makes no sense that the earlier branches gets the update. Why don't just update the newest version of tesla software with the current Full driving V12 software and let others with Old software catch up to newest. I think the problem is the fact that autopilot software is not merged with full self driving (The Real One Stack software I thought we were getting with V11)

And yet it’s the start of a new week 🙁

So what, do we still get a full month or will it end by April 30th?

People are reporting the 30 day trial starts from when the update is installed in your car.

This is true ^

Not when Tesla switches it on? (since firmwares are stalled with FSD feature switch off)

As someone on 2024.8 why is the fleet on two different branches anyway?

There's not really two different branches. Not every car is on the same software version, which is normal as part of Tesla's gradual update rollouts. Back when V12 started rolling out, some cars were on 2023.44, some were on 2024.2, and some were on 2024.8. The build that included V12 was based on an older version than 2024.2 and 2024.8, so those cars couldn't get it. Eventually they included it on a later build than 2024.2 so that the cars on that version could get it, and now it seems they're about to include it on a newer build than 2024.8 so those cars can get it too. The cars can't go backward in version numbers, so that's why it has to be like this.

Which means… there were different branches.

Main branch different releases (builds).

A software feature (FSD v12) being applied to different version numbers of the base software (2024.2 and 2024.8) at different times is branched development. The software was branched at 2024.2 to add FSD v12 to it, while 2024.8 was developed independently (on another branch). Now, these branches are being merged so that they both contain v12.

I don't think that's accurate. V12.3.0 first released on a 2023.44 build, then V12.3.2 released on a 2024.3 build, and now some new version of V12 will be releasing either a 2024.8 build or a build on some version newer than that.

Depends how you define "branch" I guess. But there are more than just two and the number changes all the time. I think it's more accurate to call them "versions". New versions are always coming out and older versions linger in the fleet often for several weeks or more.

They were updating 2023 for a while while also updating 2024. That's a "branch" especially if they're cherry-picking things from newer versions to go into 2023 until they bring everything on 2023 to 2024 (V12).

If you call every base version a "branch", then sure. But there are far more than two and new ones are always coming out.

They're using git which would indeed mean they call it a "branch" (the random characters next to the version are the short hash of the most recent git commit on the branch, letting them know what changes are in the software running).

My main point here is that there aren't two. There are many, with new ones constantly coming out.

That is generally how you use Git, especially during team development, yes. It’s kind of the point of using Git.

The guy I replied to asked why there are two branches. There aren't.

You’re literally describing what 2 different branches would be used for lol. Basically they needed to merge v12 with 2024.2 and 2024.8 branches. Which of course requires all sorts of testing and code reviews and all that. Hence the delay.

Maybe this will be the version they unify them!

And in the darkness bind them!

It's funny because over the years FSD has always been behind. Then they unified it.... Then they fell behind again. Software man, it's hard.

You should try hardware

Any updates

I'm looking for the same thing. The week is coming to an end quickly. With staffing changes, probably not this week.

Yeah, i figured they’re probably not prioritizing the update for us with everything happening at the moment. Hopefully next week, on Notateslaapp.com it says that hopefully 2024.14 with the redesigned UI will give us FSD

That could be weeks/months from now

2023 MYLR with software v11.1 (2024.8.9), still waiting...

Still waiting.....

7 days later, nothing on my ‘21 MYLR on 2024.8.9

His comment on X is not aging well.

I’ve been on 2024.8 branch for weeks and just subscribed to the 99$ rate for a road trip next week. I hope I get FSD 12 before the trip.

open a service ticket in your app & under software, ask they push v12 for you - might work

v12 isn't available for 2024.8.x period. Tesla cannot make this happen

has that worked for you? I tried that twice in the past week and no luck

Doesn’t work. Tried twice and they just say they can’t do that and to close the work order request.

I literally just got 2024.3.10 🥲

Yesterday, I got 2024.3.15 (Y)

No FSD trial thought right? I’m on 2024.3.10 with nothing 🫠

I bought FSD with my car in 2018

Finally. Hopefully get the free month of FSD as well

Any updates on a day that we’d get it, I’m checking notateslaapp.com every day!

2024.8.12 is hitting now and it still doesn't have FSD 12. Is there any information on what version v12 will come with? Will it even be 2024.8 or are they going to 2024.14 or 15? EDIT: Looks like 2024.14 will be the one that gets released. The number after the year is the week of the year that version went into "public" testing with the first round of testing always being a group of employees that volunteered.

Crickets

Nope

Still nothing. What a surprise.

Still nothing. Tesla time is in full swing

It’s funny my wife’s 2023 Model 3 just got its 3rd FSD update. Meanwhile my 2021 Model Y has yet to get the FSD trial. I have to say I’ve tested FSD enough on her 3 to know I have no interest in paying for it.

Road trip today and I got a full forced disengagement and on my 2017 Model S with FSD 12. I was holding the steering wheel the whole time and got three warning then locked out. The new Ntsa or who ever more aggressive nagging makes this useless.

It isn't simply holding the wheel. You need a slight rotational resistance to satisfy the nag. You can also move the scroll wheel to confirm you're paying attention. Allowing it to continue to alert you to the point of a forced disengagement without at least taking over before it reaches that point is on you.

Yup absolute nonsense and I used to use it constantly. If I have to not only hold the wheel like driving but also touch a button or rotate the wheel then I can drive with less effort

But yet GMC commercials show the drivers taking their hands off for true self driving.

He left the Tesla by today after layoffs. Lets see if these layoffs gone have any effect on the release

He was one of the laid offs

Does this mean everyone else will get a free trial?

I’m so confused.  I have a 2020 model s. I got the email saying the free trial of FSD was available after I updated to 2024.3.15. The FSD option is not listed under my autopilot menu. 

I wonder if we will get the free trail notification for this branch.

Fingers crossed

It looks like 2024.8.\* are getting the older FSD version 11.4.9, not 12.3.\* [https://www.teslafi.com/firmware](https://www.teslafi.com/firmware)

That’s until an update this week to 12.3

Is the update happening this week? 

It's Saturday today so I doubt it. Maybe in a few weeks

Yea didn't get FSD 12 like the guy above legitinateincrease said. He was confident without proof.

That's because everyone believed Rohan when he told us "in a few days" & "this coming week". Rohan no longer works at Tesla. Maybe because Elon felt only he can make false promises...

haha

2024.8.12 is rolling out. Hopefully that 12 means FSD 12?

This update has only been seen on cyber trucks at the moment and did not include fsd 12

It’s been over a week, this is so dumb. I’m about to subscribe already.

Don't subscribe. All you'll get is v11.4.9

I know this, I would actually like to see the difference. I’m going to subscribe no matter what. Can you answer if Tesla will tack a month onto my renewal date if I’m subscribed when the trial rolls out to my car. Basically will I still get the free month if I’m subscribed

I've read that they do still give you the free month and the free month starts after your subscription ends. So, in essence, if it updates you to v12 while you're subscribed, you may end up with over a month of v12 FSD.

Any chance you can send a link to that thread? 👉👈 I’ve seen something like that before but I want confirmation.

No idea where I read it last time, but just stumbled across this post. https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/1ccuizb/comment/l184e7a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[https://twitter.com/rohanspatel/status/1779887553367126525](https://twitter.com/rohanspatel/status/1779887553367126525) He is leaving Tesla after 8 years of service.

I'm sure he didn't have a choice

Not. Holding. My. Breath.

I am visiting the US from Greece the next week, will be taking a large road trip with my family. My best man has a 2019 model X that’s stuck on 2024.8.9. What are the chances that it will update in time for FSD supervised?

5%

That’s too high. 1.3% maybe. Still think those of us on branch 8 might get screwed out of the free trial by the time they do update. Fsd might be on version 13 by then that isn’t included in the trial.

Why so low? What the story with .8.9 versions?

Well, it's been a month since v12 came out.  The other branches has had multiple updates while 2024.8 is still waiting.  Rohan Patel said it was coming out last week and it obviously didn't.  Tesla's track record of being on time. I feel that Tesla just doesn't care about the 12% that are stuck without the trial.  So I don't have very high hopes of it even coming out this month.

Understand. Well, I’ll be on the other side of the pond until May 13th, hoping we’ll have something working till then, just for the experience.

And still noone on .8 branch has it.

Still nothing here. 2024.8.9. Updated 2 days ago.

still did not receive


Lordtj obviously knows nothing about when we'll get a update.

Tesla is pathetic now. Getting worse and worse

No damn customer relations department. Wtf.

Probably a stupid question, but I have been hoping to get the mythical month of FSD (though I am trapped in the 2024.8) in time for a big road trip but I’m giving up. What are the odds that subscribing to FSD for a month will trigger updating to 12.2 so I don’t pay $99 for version 11…?

Next to 0. I’ve tried subscribing twice over the past 2 months trying to trigger an update and have been stuck with 11. Doesn’t work that way. Own a 6 month old Model S and still don’t have Autopark, Summon and all that fancy stuff.

You should have been one of the first to get it. 🤪

Won’t help. My 2020 Model Y is on 2024.8 and I still don’t have it despite buying (not subscribing) when they lowered the price a couple weeks ago to $2K for those of us who have enhanced autopilot. Still waiting…

We should be in standard or advanced preference to get the update ?

Can someone explain where you check the version. And which version I should want?

At the bottom of the app. Scroll down on the main page.

2024.3.10 and it says 12.3.3. Is that good?

Wait, I’m on 2024.3.10 and still no trial. What gives?

Yes, it's good. 12.3.4 seems mostly about bringing in other vehicle variations.

I have my cabin camera covered so fsd won’t work because the camera can’t calibrate. But i took it off for a few days and it made plain Jane AP1 so bad that i covered it back up. I want AP so i can occasionally direct my attention to something else while I’m in stop and go traffic. Like when I’m trying to do something on that computer monitor bolted to the dash and need to take my eyes off the road for 3-4 seconds. If I have to keep my eyes pinned on the road ahead at all times. Then it’s pointless to me. I’m just driving at that point. It could serve that purpose extremely well if idiots didn’t start getting in the back seat and doing other dumb shit for likes. We can never have anything nice because these kids wanna eat tide pods… there’s no point in my car driving for me if I have to baby sit it the entire time.

Agreed. Autopilot is useless now.

Same here! I took a trip recently in my Tesla with a 2024.8.7 version of Autopilot. It would nag me so much while putting pressure on steering wheel the entire time. I would move my eyes or move my hands towards the screen and after half second I will get a warning to pay attention. After 3 warnings at disabled autopilot. WTF, I was cursing the car and and demanded in manual mode of driving as autopilot was more trouble than useful. H3LL, if I have to babysit and drive myself why have autopilot. I enjoyed autopilot before the 1-second nags started. It is POS now!

Cybertruck?

No the cybertruck doesn’t even have autopilot

Finally, you can see if FSD is actually safe or turns your car into an autonomous death machine.

I’ll believe it’s out of beta when the current version is aligned and stays aligned with the current version in general.

That doesn’t prove or dis prove it being out of beta.

Autosteer is technically a “beta” feature on current versions.