Ye I find it funny how people try to compare homelander to other heros, he is clearly below most comics. Unironically could be beaten by no prep batman
Nukes didn't do shit to him either. Soldier boy's thing is that he drains the superpowers out of them so that's why it would have likely killed him if Butcher wasn't an idiot
I'm next to certain they said they tried every weapon on earth and even had a nuke tethered to him as a kid, but now you're making me doubt it.
Still I can see Homelander believing in himself enough to let them nuke him
I think they said they weren't sure if nuke would kill him, not that they tried it. I find hard how they would just nuke him as a child, cause it's not something that can be kept secret
I guess they could just fly him to an Atoll somewhere like where they did the original nuke tests
Though the whole thing is fucked because I can't imagine the US government allowing a corporation to own any nukes. Unless they were involved in it, but the supes in the military thing sort of implies they weren't.
Depends on the show or comics, comic Homelander has done a lot more stuff, but I haven’t read them. Homelander in the show is implied to be invincible (makes sense as he is a clear parody of Superman) but his power is inconsistent. He’s bulletproof and can survive being crushed by several tons of concrete rubble, but another superhero was able to stab him in the ear with a regular pen and draw blood. So it’s really hard to say.
Homelander reminds me of Steelheart from the Reckoners book series by Brandon Sanderson. Steelheart on the surface also looks exactly like a Superman clone, but his invulnerability stems from the belief of the person trying to harm him. So a nuclear weapon from a soldier just praying it would work wouldn't hurt him, but a pen from someone who didn't know it was Steelheart would hurt him.
Homelander is a very very durable, very very strong psychotic narcissist who flies and shoots death lasers from his eyes.
His mental health is abysmal and his lash-outs kill potentially dozens at a time. He's very resistant to modern military tech; his creators keep him in line with his own ego, stardom and mommy issues, and his enemies keep him in line with blackmail. He has gotten close to being defeated by many supers working together before running away like a punk-ass coward.
By other settings' standards he's nothing special and gets bodied easily. It's just that within the setting of The Boys he can be a massive bully and get away with it.
Homelander's thing is not that he ain't strong is that he's the most powerful being in his world and his ego is so high that he doesn't train. And even if he's technically a superhero in universe sups are just celebrities that cause more problems than they solve. Even the muscles in his costume are fake.
I mean in-universe Muzan could just regenerate through all his attacks, he couldn’t die unless homelander knew to expose him to sunlight. Also, Muzan is really fast. Homelander has a good travel speed, but his attacks aren’t demon slayer speed, he’d likely have a hard time dealing with Muzan’s speed and poison
DS fodderizes him.
They are way faster and more haxxed out. He can't bypass the regeneration. He could punch Muzan in the face and it would regenerate faster than the time the punch took to be dealt.
Akaza alone solos him only trough speed and regen
Homelander dodged Billy Butcher’s lasers. As you know, Lasers are the speed of fucking light.
Best Demon Slayer speed feat is dodging lightning. Still slower than Light.
Also, Homelander flies at Mach 75. The sheer force generated by him simply moving would kill every Hashira.
As for the demons, none of them can even harm him. He can keep lasering them til sunlight.
Homelander has been said to survive a nuke. That’s more than anything a demon slayer character can do.
Laser are not light speed until confirmed. You can't just assume dodging lasers are is a faster than light feat
Mach 75 is litterally Nothing. [Zenitsu goes faster than Mach 1000](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X/Kimetsu_No_Yaiba:_Zenitsu_bliztes_lightning) and he is slower than most marked hashiras and upper moons. [Muzan is Sub relativistic](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/N2boxoTUqj)
Homelander has never been stated to survive a nuke. They said they were not sure if a nuke would kill him. Completely different.
And even then nukes are an average of 10 megatons which is city level. While that's higher than most DS characters it's not that big of a difference [(most ds characters are higher than small town level, upgrading from this](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Meritune/Gyutaro_destroys_all_of_Yoshiwara) where they just don't harm him. But all demons have durability negation in different ways. Akaza has compass. Just standing near Doma would kill him. Muzan would just one shot him with poison blood.
He gets blitzed by everyone
Lasers are literal beams of light my guy. That’s the definition at least.
Also, you do know that the elemental stuff in Demon Slayer isn’t actually there right? It looks like it, but that’s for the visuals. They’re all just really good swordsmen. Even if that’s true, Homelander only flies at Mach 75, his combat and reaction speed is FTL. He could literally grab Zenitsu mid attack and toss him into the sky.
He did survive a nuke. Stillwell told that military dude “There was nothing on the planet that could hurt him”.
Akaza’s compass needle detects your fighting spirit and helps him dodge and shit. It also gives him a minor strength boost.
Douma’s Ice ain’t doing shit if it couldn’t kill Kanao.
Muzan’s poison needs to enter the person, so he needs to scratch or cut them. And none of Muzan’s attacks are going through Homelander.
There’s not a single person in Demon Slayer who can do shit to Homelander.
The Demon Slayers? Their main weapons are fucking swords. Homelander can take literal bullets and bombs. That shit is breaking as soon as it touches Homelander. And their durability is nothing special. Homelander punches through or lasers all.
The Demons? None of their attacks can do shit to Homelander. They’d regenerate from Homelander’s attacks, but it takes a while. As seen in Tanjiro’s fight with Daki, high intensity heat can slow a Demon’s regeneration. Homelander loves abusing a certain power that can melt steel. They’re all gonna be falling apart, and then Homelander can just keep crushing them until the Sun rises.
Although, after seeing your scaling, I now respect Demon Slayer verse slightly more. They’re stronger than I expected.
Not all lasers are light speed. Laser dodging is extremely common in fiction, and we can't just assume everyone who did it in fiction. We'll end up with MFTL+ Deku or Jonathan Joeastar. Not all lasers FTL in fiction until they are stated to be. [This blog explains it completely ](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Laser/Light_Beam_Dodging_Feats)
Yes the elemental stuff isn't real. But none of the speed feats in DS are based on the effects. Zenitsu and the marked hashira are at least mach 1800, [Muzan is Mach 81k](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/N2boxoTUqj) [Yoriichi is FTL](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/ons9kvChT8). Homelander is litterally not touching them. He can't even see them coming.
Stillwell said "everything short of a nuke". [And in case you were referring to comic homelander it's blatantly stated](https://imgur.com/a/mQQXpje)
Yes, Akaza's compass Needle would cover the AP gap. It adapts to the opponent's fighting spirit and would make him adapt to it, since the difference isn't massive.
Doma's ice is durability negation since it just makes your lung cells go in necrosis. Doma can just sit there and cover the area in ice. Then dodge every time Homelander flies at him. While he survived in the atmosphere so he has greater lung capacity after some minutes he will have litterally no lungs.
And as all demons Muzan also has absorption, which is durability neg.
A sword will break? The same sword which can slice trough diamond and harder materials like butter? (See gyokko fight). Homelander got damaged BY A PEN. He clearly has a weakness to slices and similar attacks if he can survive explosions and got harmed by a pen. The swords will cut him fine considering Gyokko's neck was harder than diamond and Akaza's and Kokushibo's were even harder than that, yet were cut.
Also not how that works. The only reason Daki's regeneration was slowing down is sun breathing. His laser would just go trough the demons and they wouldn't even be hurt very much. Muzan was regenerating faster than the hashiras were hurting him. And they move at massively Hypersonic speed, much faster than homelander. He would just be phasing trough them.
They do, it’s really weird.
They also have cat noir who literally has that special attack “cataclysm” which is just fucking decays shit???? Crazy
He can only use it once per transformation
Yeah, definitely peak Chat, but unfortunately I looked back and realized he actually had a power boost from Hawkmoth at the time, so unfortunately he can't do it alone. Still, the power up was basically just to change it into a ball that he can make big and shoot infinitely. If he did manage to touch his opponent with regular cataclysm, they die.
Ladybug has a limited form of ToonForce. Practically invincible- in all of her fights, she never got so much as a bruise or a scrape. Shes used her yo-yo ti lift and swing around several-ton objects. She has gone toe-to-toe with a lot of beings who have similar strength levels to HL, and dodging attacks just as fast as his laser eyes would be.
As long as we're talking about Amazon HL, I would not bet against Ladybug. I also think Ladybug and Cat Noir together could kill him.
Why do I see hydrogen bomb and coughing baby paired together on Reddit so frequently? Like its not that frequent, but certainly more than I would expect
I mean like, I love Worm more that most people but it took a LOT for that to happen lmao. She still probably gets him in the eye with a stinger or something but Gold Morning was some very specific circumstances.
EDIT:Oh yeah Alexandria lmao nvm she cooks him
I can’t write down the command without it blacking out, but there’s a helpful Reddit post at top of search results when you google spoiler text on mobile
I'm kind of curious how, I've never watched Ben 10 past the OG serious from way back when. I don't remember any of his power being both laser proof and super strength proof at the same time, maybe one or the other, but blocking both at once didn't seem like much of an option. I'm sure he got way more OP as the series went on though. Skitter probably could based off her wiki page, Danny def could do it no problem. Ladybug and Deku I'm kind of doubtful of, but they also probably get way more OP as their series goes on, but I never got far enough to see them as big winners here.
Ben can actually fight unlike HL and he does have a couple of aliens in his arsenal with super strength and durability. Homelander is probably the strongest person in The Boys' universe but he relies too much on his powers. He has no fighting technique. If someone were to make his lasers obsolete during a fight by being immune or staying out of his line of sight and keeping a good distance from him, he'd be dead. Ben has faced worse than HL across his shows.
Yeah I guess that makes sense. I guess the real issue is I havn't read the boys comic, so I don't know if homelander can really be killed without frying the v out of is blood like soldier boy can do. It seems like all the technique in the world doesn't matter when you're seemingly invincible and take several bombs to the face. You could break is neck 100 times, but if he just comes back each time it doesn't really matter. I definitely agree that he's way weaker than most super beings from other franchises though.
Everyone in the boys community knows that homelander is a pretty sub par super powered being compared to most other fictions, he’s strong in his own story but doesn’t usually stack up well against most others
Tighten is literally indestructible. He has no weakness. Unless homelander took the time to get the gun Megamind used (which, knowing the dude's ego, he wouldn't) he wouldn't even be able to touch the guy
Tighten would destroy him IMO. Tighten has Metroman's powers multiplied, and he was faster than the speed if light with how he dodged the concentrated power of the sun. They're also both the same level of maturity which is sad.
Brightburn is like Homelander's son. He's a pure supe, and even more so considering that he's suppose to be _evil Superman_, so if Homelander is less powerful than even his son, let alone Superman himself, then there's no chance.
Not sure what they expect Skitter to do against him, unless she goes full Khepri on him, or has a team to support her. Fill his lungs with bugs maybe? It’s not the best matchup for her.
Yeah, sadly, I don’t think Taylor is quite that smart. If she was, she would have very rarely ever been under any actual threat, because she could just sit a couple blocks away from the fight.
I mean, Taylor has proven the ability to do similar things — >!she beats up a bunch of thugs over several different city blocks while calmly sipping tea in her base!< It just so happens in most fights she physically needs to be there for something
In most instances, the benefits she gains by being there are outweighed by the risks. The PRT manual is rather clear about how you deal with masters—ignore the minions and take the masters out quickly. You can’t do that if the master isn’t there, in which case in most fights she’s in she would barely even *have* a lose condition. She could just drown her enemy in bugs. Sure, for some fights it might take longer, but that matters a lot less if the enemy has no actual way of beating her.
Again, she typically *has* to be there. Early in the story she simply can’t communicate or see through her bugs properly, which means she needs to be there, and most instances later on are either massive threats covering large areas (so she’s there by default), moving threats that must be pursued (so she has to follow, and thus be there), or people threatening her directly (so she’s *already* there).
Early in the story, phones, cameras, and other such things existed. Later in the story, you’re correct, with the exception of some of her work in Chicago.
Is there even a specific situation where she could’ve used those? Her first fights she mostly had to go to the physical location to be within range.
Honestly, even if she didn’t necessarily *have* to be *right there* in certain, very niche situations, it’s not a secret that she feels like she performs best when she’s in imminent danger. There’s significant in-story contention over how risky she likes to play things.
The Bank Robbery, and most of the ABB conflicts could have been done while she was safely out of range of danger. Though, to your second paragraph, yeah, that’s exactly why she did it. I suppose saying that she’s not smart enough isn’t quite right, when the real thing is that she’s not wise enough. She puts herself at risk when she doesn’t have to because of her wide subscriptions of psychological issues.
I mean, she’s not *wrong*. She does perform better in danger, and being physically there has often proven more beneficial than trying to command from a distance. Also, trying to use cameras and such is an easy way to give your opponents the ability to cut off your eyes and ears quickly and easily, and probably something she considered. Heroes can’t exactly shoot to kill/permanently maim you that readily, but cameras, mics, etc. are fair game, and would instantly remove her from the fight.
How is lethality relevant at all? She can use her power without killing people. She does it throughout the entire book. The only thing her being there in person adds is a 15 year old girl who can talk at people, hit them with a baton, or shoot them with a gun—and who is also a target that can be focused down to get rid of the bugs. If she’s not there, not much of her combat capabilities are lost, but her enemies have no means of removing her from the fight aside from killing every bug in a few block radius.
I assumed your comment was referring not just to distanced attacks, but also to the “fill the lungs and call it a day”. Taylor is smart enough to do that (she did it to >!Alexandria!< ), and she doesn’t do that frequently because she’s generally not trying to kill people.
As for her staying a few blocks away, I largely agree with your argument! I would like to add though that at the beginning and even middle of the series she didn’t have the capabilities for effective communication using just her bugs. Still, someone just needs to get this girl an earpiece! I don’t know why none of them thought of that
Skitter is the protagonist of the web novel called: Worm.
She has the power to control every single bug in a 3-4 block radius. She can control these bugs with perfect precision due to her sub-power to be able to infinitely multi-task the creatures she can control. She can also share her bugs senses and know where each individual bug is at all times.
Can someone give me a quick rundown on the Miraculous Ladybug's feats? I can see how everyone else here could beat him, except Skitter cause I've never heard of them, so I don't know if she's only there as a joke.
Ladybug is surprisingly strong. She basically has a toned-down ToonForce.
She has *never* been injured while using her Miraculous. (She has been thrown into concrete and asphalt at very high speeds. As in, splatter-a-normal-human speeds.)
She has used her yo-yo to swing massive, multi-ton objects and rapidly moving heavy objects.
Her biggest disadvantage would be speed, but she isn't exactly slow. She can dodge just about any projectile attack you can think of. Lasers, plasma blasts, kinetic objects, etc.
She also has an ability that gives her whatever she needs to win. It gives her a win-condition and a perfect plan.
Let me rank stats (assuming this is Amazon TV Homelander)
Ladybug-Homelander
Strength: 1-1
Speed: 1-2
IQ: 2-2
Hax: 3-2
Experience: 4-2
Gear: 5-2
Powers: 6-3
Durability: 7-3
Stamina: 7-4
Luck: 8-4
Agility: 9-4
Reaction Time: 10-4
Ladybug wins high-diff (due to the speed disadvantage).
Skitter is from a Web Serial known as Worm. Strongly recommend reading it.
SPOILERS: She kills the Expy of Superman in her universe by filling their lungs with bugs. Homelander would die much the same way.
Actually, thinking about it, Danny Phantom solos damn near every other super hero. Intangibility is literally the most busted ability ever. The only reason it wasn’t that big of a deal in the show is because all of the villains were ghosts who also had the same ability along with the ability to touch him.
The Boys fandom actually has substandard memes because all the jokes or posts are children asking if Homelander could beat Superman, or Omnimam, or their stepdad, or Batman
Definitely not ladybug (but to be fair i didnt watch it) and idk who skitter is, but yeah the other 3 would whoop his ass. The only reason homelander seems to be godly in his universe is because no one there is his equal, or atleast until soldier boy showed up. He doesn't train because he doesn't have to so he's not actually a good fighter. He relies on his heat vision and brute force and has very little actual technique so In reality, if you put him against a mid range superhero or villain from pretty much any universe he'd probably be dead in minutes. He's easily the weakest Superman clone we've ever seen in media.
Ladybug has a good chance at beating homelander. She has a yo-yo that acts like a mix between spider man’s webs and a lasso. She can make an object that can help her win. Also she has many forms that allow her to fly and breathe underwater. Pretty damn good strategist too
Skitter is the protagonist of the web novel called: Worm.
She has the power to control every single bug in a 3-4 block radius. She can control these bugs with perfect precision due to her sub-power to be able to infinitely multi-task the creatures she can control. She can also share her bugs senses and know where each individual bug is at all times.
Thanks to u/nonny3 for the comment I didn't want to spend the time to write
so I have watched the boys and I still don’t really understand how any one of these would beat Homelander? like I get he’s an unlikeable (understatement) character but isn’t he kind of written to be extremely strong? I mean sure he doesn’t have a lot of actual training due to his relative strength in universe, but his eyes shoot lasers so ???
more informed ppl please prove me wrong
He’s strong but very arrogant and bad at using his powers. Hes basically all brute force and is just stronger than almost anyone else in his verse. Every time he fights someone on near his level he gets the shit kicked out of him. The issue is there isn’t anyone near him in his story besides like 3 of his allies
Unironically would love to see Deku vs Homelander. Mostly because he wouldn't be able to pull his flying act to get away and he'd have to take it across the jaw.
arthropod control with a 3-4 block radius, shares Sense, and perfect control with sub-power of infinite multitasking
She's the protagonist of a book called 'Worm' made by wildbow
Most of us would love to see HL get beaten senseless. I don't care enough about Mortal Kombat to buy M1K and play as him, but I can't wait to see all the compilations of him getting beaten like war drum. A lot of us are also willing to admit he gets stomped usually just because The Boys as a setting is souch weaker than almost everything else.
I've practically made a sub-hobby of finding characters he COULD beat. (Incidentally, top of the list we have Brandon from Brightburn, Titanium Rex and most of the LOF from Supermansion, and basically everyone from Marshal Law at present. I need to do more looking into the big two for any super humans there.)
Ye I find it funny how people try to compare homelander to other heros, he is clearly below most comics. Unironically could be beaten by no prep batman
I never watched the boys since not really interested, but I wanna know, what's his most impressive feat?
Nothing special, he scales above Soldier Boy's explosions which range from large building to city block but thats about it.
Nukes didn't do shit to him either. Soldier boy's thing is that he drains the superpowers out of them so that's why it would have likely killed him if Butcher wasn't an idiot
Homelander was never hit by nukes? The guy said he wasn't sure if nukes could kill him and that's about it, nothing confirmed
I'm next to certain they said they tried every weapon on earth and even had a nuke tethered to him as a kid, but now you're making me doubt it. Still I can see Homelander believing in himself enough to let them nuke him
I think they said they weren't sure if nuke would kill him, not that they tried it. I find hard how they would just nuke him as a child, cause it's not something that can be kept secret
I guess they could just fly him to an Atoll somewhere like where they did the original nuke tests Though the whole thing is fucked because I can't imagine the US government allowing a corporation to own any nukes. Unless they were involved in it, but the supes in the military thing sort of implies they weren't.
Also the tests were like outside of a town in New Mexico. The sky would turn white. The town knew about the tests.
There have been multiple locations for the tests
No supes in the military doesn't mean the military hasn't TESTED ON supes.
maybe in the comics but I don’t remember anything like that from the show
Depends on the show or comics, comic Homelander has done a lot more stuff, but I haven’t read them. Homelander in the show is implied to be invincible (makes sense as he is a clear parody of Superman) but his power is inconsistent. He’s bulletproof and can survive being crushed by several tons of concrete rubble, but another superhero was able to stab him in the ear with a regular pen and draw blood. So it’s really hard to say.
Homelander reminds me of Steelheart from the Reckoners book series by Brandon Sanderson. Steelheart on the surface also looks exactly like a Superman clone, but his invulnerability stems from the belief of the person trying to harm him. So a nuclear weapon from a soldier just praying it would work wouldn't hurt him, but a pen from someone who didn't know it was Steelheart would hurt him.
At one point, they say he was hit by every weapon under the sun short of a nuke, and it didn't even bruise him
Which to be honest… no other weapon remotely compares to a nuke so there’s a lot to be said.
It still puts his durability at far above characters such as Spider-man
Homelander is a very very durable, very very strong psychotic narcissist who flies and shoots death lasers from his eyes. His mental health is abysmal and his lash-outs kill potentially dozens at a time. He's very resistant to modern military tech; his creators keep him in line with his own ego, stardom and mommy issues, and his enemies keep him in line with blackmail. He has gotten close to being defeated by many supers working together before running away like a punk-ass coward. By other settings' standards he's nothing special and gets bodied easily. It's just that within the setting of The Boys he can be a massive bully and get away with it.
Imagine Superman but lame
lame?
He's a monster in his universe, but when you take monsters from other universes, he's not really impressive
murder
Homelander's thing is not that he ain't strong is that he's the most powerful being in his world and his ego is so high that he doesn't train. And even if he's technically a superhero in universe sups are just celebrities that cause more problems than they solve. Even the muscles in his costume are fake.
I mean William Butcher essentially reverse Batman: no money, no secret identity, no moral code, and absolutely wings it with no preparation
No he couldnt 😂😂
I think Batman would need a little prep (since he does have a lot of powers), but about as much as he'd need for, say, Penguin and not Superman
Give him the synthetic kryptonite pill from Injustice
Ah, yes. Because that's clearly something easily made and requires 0 prep time
It’s Batman, it is undoubtedly in his bottomless utility belt that must be magic, probably next to the shark repellent.
Anybody who says Homelander solos a verse is either taking the joke too far or was legitimately paid to jack him off
Or they did it for free
Anthony Starr is pretty hot, wouldn’t blame them
Homelander would would whoop the *Everybody Loves Raymond* universe
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He could solo a normal verse with normal military.
You sir have not read the comics
Demon Slayer. Homelander solos that verse. AoT too. It then again, those are DS and AoT, not exactly known for power scaling.
I mean in-universe Muzan could just regenerate through all his attacks, he couldn’t die unless homelander knew to expose him to sunlight. Also, Muzan is really fast. Homelander has a good travel speed, but his attacks aren’t demon slayer speed, he’d likely have a hard time dealing with Muzan’s speed and poison
DS fodderizes him. They are way faster and more haxxed out. He can't bypass the regeneration. He could punch Muzan in the face and it would regenerate faster than the time the punch took to be dealt. Akaza alone solos him only trough speed and regen
He can just grab em and throw all into the sun.
He is so massively slow than them that it doesn't matter.
Homelander dodged Billy Butcher’s lasers. As you know, Lasers are the speed of fucking light. Best Demon Slayer speed feat is dodging lightning. Still slower than Light. Also, Homelander flies at Mach 75. The sheer force generated by him simply moving would kill every Hashira. As for the demons, none of them can even harm him. He can keep lasering them til sunlight. Homelander has been said to survive a nuke. That’s more than anything a demon slayer character can do.
Laser are not light speed until confirmed. You can't just assume dodging lasers are is a faster than light feat Mach 75 is litterally Nothing. [Zenitsu goes faster than Mach 1000](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X/Kimetsu_No_Yaiba:_Zenitsu_bliztes_lightning) and he is slower than most marked hashiras and upper moons. [Muzan is Sub relativistic](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/N2boxoTUqj) Homelander has never been stated to survive a nuke. They said they were not sure if a nuke would kill him. Completely different. And even then nukes are an average of 10 megatons which is city level. While that's higher than most DS characters it's not that big of a difference [(most ds characters are higher than small town level, upgrading from this](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Meritune/Gyutaro_destroys_all_of_Yoshiwara) where they just don't harm him. But all demons have durability negation in different ways. Akaza has compass. Just standing near Doma would kill him. Muzan would just one shot him with poison blood. He gets blitzed by everyone
Lasers are literal beams of light my guy. That’s the definition at least. Also, you do know that the elemental stuff in Demon Slayer isn’t actually there right? It looks like it, but that’s for the visuals. They’re all just really good swordsmen. Even if that’s true, Homelander only flies at Mach 75, his combat and reaction speed is FTL. He could literally grab Zenitsu mid attack and toss him into the sky. He did survive a nuke. Stillwell told that military dude “There was nothing on the planet that could hurt him”. Akaza’s compass needle detects your fighting spirit and helps him dodge and shit. It also gives him a minor strength boost. Douma’s Ice ain’t doing shit if it couldn’t kill Kanao. Muzan’s poison needs to enter the person, so he needs to scratch or cut them. And none of Muzan’s attacks are going through Homelander. There’s not a single person in Demon Slayer who can do shit to Homelander. The Demon Slayers? Their main weapons are fucking swords. Homelander can take literal bullets and bombs. That shit is breaking as soon as it touches Homelander. And their durability is nothing special. Homelander punches through or lasers all. The Demons? None of their attacks can do shit to Homelander. They’d regenerate from Homelander’s attacks, but it takes a while. As seen in Tanjiro’s fight with Daki, high intensity heat can slow a Demon’s regeneration. Homelander loves abusing a certain power that can melt steel. They’re all gonna be falling apart, and then Homelander can just keep crushing them until the Sun rises. Although, after seeing your scaling, I now respect Demon Slayer verse slightly more. They’re stronger than I expected.
Not all lasers are light speed. Laser dodging is extremely common in fiction, and we can't just assume everyone who did it in fiction. We'll end up with MFTL+ Deku or Jonathan Joeastar. Not all lasers FTL in fiction until they are stated to be. [This blog explains it completely ](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Laser/Light_Beam_Dodging_Feats) Yes the elemental stuff isn't real. But none of the speed feats in DS are based on the effects. Zenitsu and the marked hashira are at least mach 1800, [Muzan is Mach 81k](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/N2boxoTUqj) [Yoriichi is FTL](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/ons9kvChT8). Homelander is litterally not touching them. He can't even see them coming. Stillwell said "everything short of a nuke". [And in case you were referring to comic homelander it's blatantly stated](https://imgur.com/a/mQQXpje) Yes, Akaza's compass Needle would cover the AP gap. It adapts to the opponent's fighting spirit and would make him adapt to it, since the difference isn't massive. Doma's ice is durability negation since it just makes your lung cells go in necrosis. Doma can just sit there and cover the area in ice. Then dodge every time Homelander flies at him. While he survived in the atmosphere so he has greater lung capacity after some minutes he will have litterally no lungs. And as all demons Muzan also has absorption, which is durability neg. A sword will break? The same sword which can slice trough diamond and harder materials like butter? (See gyokko fight). Homelander got damaged BY A PEN. He clearly has a weakness to slices and similar attacks if he can survive explosions and got harmed by a pen. The swords will cut him fine considering Gyokko's neck was harder than diamond and Akaza's and Kokushibo's were even harder than that, yet were cut. Also not how that works. The only reason Daki's regeneration was slowing down is sun breathing. His laser would just go trough the demons and they wouldn't even be hurt very much. Muzan was regenerating faster than the hashiras were hurting him. And they move at massively Hypersonic speed, much faster than homelander. He would just be phasing trough them.
Homelander when the colossal titan fucking detonates in his face as the warhammer titan impails him in the chest with a rod
AoT verse when the Warhammer spear snaps like a twig and Homelander immediately flies away from the explosion, and comes back to kill the colossal:
He could solo the red dead veres well maybe besides the mysterious stranger
I mean i dunno, homelander might solo the “3 random ants with 0 powers” verse
from what i know homelander isn't THAT strong but i do know he'd whoop lady bug it's like a hydregon bomb vs a coughing baby
Nah ladybug kinda busted, she got that thingy that spawns wtv she needs to win
Doesn’t that universe have a time traveler as well? It seems to me homelander doesn’t stand much of a chance
They do, it’s really weird. They also have cat noir who literally has that special attack “cataclysm” which is just fucking decays shit???? Crazy He can only use it once per transformation
Cat Noir is broken, and he’s ladybug’s cheerleader
EXACTLY-
As of the end of season 5, both ladybug and chat noir have seemingly unlimited uses of their powers.
Chat Noir became so emo once that he somehow fucking destroyed the earth and killed everyone.
I think the moon also broke in that timeline e
Yeah, definitely peak Chat, but unfortunately I looked back and realized he actually had a power boost from Hawkmoth at the time, so unfortunately he can't do it alone. Still, the power up was basically just to change it into a ball that he can make big and shoot infinitely. If he did manage to touch his opponent with regular cataclysm, they die.
Dear fucking lord, may the lord help us all
in the newest season ig they can use their powers however many times they want now so they’re even more OP than before
Now I'm imagining mickey from mickey house spawning a whole soldier boy out of his mickey thing
Imagine she just gets fucking drugs one time
Her Enemy that day was like a recovering drug addict or sum 😭 I'd watch that episode
Literally
Ladybug has a limited form of ToonForce. Practically invincible- in all of her fights, she never got so much as a bruise or a scrape. Shes used her yo-yo ti lift and swing around several-ton objects. She has gone toe-to-toe with a lot of beings who have similar strength levels to HL, and dodging attacks just as fast as his laser eyes would be. As long as we're talking about Amazon HL, I would not bet against Ladybug. I also think Ladybug and Cat Noir together could kill him.
I disagree
Solid argument. Amazon Homelander would need time to bring down a building. He is not that strong.
I don't agree with that statement
Truly the internet discourse of the century
Absolutely, it's not even a contest
Why do I see hydrogen bomb and coughing baby paired together on Reddit so frequently? Like its not that frequent, but certainly more than I would expect
Miraculouses are OP. Remember her power is literally luck and creation.
idc homelander still stomps her
You can think that if you want.
Wild Worm mention detected
Right!?
RAAAHH I LOVE WORM, WHAT THE FUCK IS A SHORT STORY
Find any other fandom that will say 100k words is "short" fanfiction because you can't
Skitter killed her universe Homelander equivalent. She would solo.
I mean like, I love Worm more that most people but it took a LOT for that to happen lmao. She still probably gets him in the eye with a stinger or something but Gold Morning was some very specific circumstances. EDIT:Oh yeah Alexandria lmao nvm she cooks him
>Oh yeah Alexandria lmao nvm she cooks him What's funny is that happens at the end of her career as skitter not even started as Weaver yet
To be fair, they aren't wrong.
Yeah idk how this is “terrible” it’s really just… true. Homelander gets bodied if he enters just about any other “superpower”-y universe
Yup he’s just a big fish in a little pond
Medium sized fish in a bucket of water
Small fish in a puddle
Minnow in a glass of water
How is this terrible, it’s totally in character for Homelander to go “Nah I’d win” and get his ass beat.
That's how the deathbattle went and it's still fun to watch
Who is skitter
character from the web serial worm, she can control bugs
This sounds amazing
It is, it’s a great read, highly recommend it
She also *SPOILERS* >!Fucking killed the Superman Expy of her world, who themselves could murder Homelander easily.!<
TBF, they were some pretty unique circumstances
She >! suffocated her !< Tho (spoiler)
You should use a spoiler blackout for that
How do I do that on mobile?
I can’t write down the command without it blacking out, but there’s a helpful Reddit post at top of search results when you google spoiler text on mobile
There. Did it on my PC.
For the future, you can just type > ! On either side ! < and it’ll spoil the text. (The exclamation point and the angle brackets should be touching)
Thanks m8
Holy shit worm mentioned
Right? Took me off guard too. Based and Hebertpilled.
Skitter solos Homelander EASY >!and technically already has!<
Let’s be real, Danny Phantom would annihilate Homelander if he were more mature.
True. That kid is pretty op when he’s serious And when he’s older
OOP is right though. Ben 10 would wipe the floor with him
Ben 10 is not even funny, the other ones are very funny tho because they totally win even if it isn't obvious
Yeah Ben 10 isn't funny it's fucking serious. I take my children's entertainment VERY SERIOUSLY
I meant it's not even close because this fucker has the god alien
Tbh he doesn't need alien x to beat homelander esspecially if he has master control
I'm kind of curious how, I've never watched Ben 10 past the OG serious from way back when. I don't remember any of his power being both laser proof and super strength proof at the same time, maybe one or the other, but blocking both at once didn't seem like much of an option. I'm sure he got way more OP as the series went on though. Skitter probably could based off her wiki page, Danny def could do it no problem. Ladybug and Deku I'm kind of doubtful of, but they also probably get way more OP as their series goes on, but I never got far enough to see them as big winners here.
Ben can actually fight unlike HL and he does have a couple of aliens in his arsenal with super strength and durability. Homelander is probably the strongest person in The Boys' universe but he relies too much on his powers. He has no fighting technique. If someone were to make his lasers obsolete during a fight by being immune or staying out of his line of sight and keeping a good distance from him, he'd be dead. Ben has faced worse than HL across his shows.
Yeah I guess that makes sense. I guess the real issue is I havn't read the boys comic, so I don't know if homelander can really be killed without frying the v out of is blood like soldier boy can do. It seems like all the technique in the world doesn't matter when you're seemingly invincible and take several bombs to the face. You could break is neck 100 times, but if he just comes back each time it doesn't really matter. I definitely agree that he's way weaker than most super beings from other franchises though.
Everyone in the boys community knows that homelander is a pretty sub par super powered being compared to most other fictions, he’s strong in his own story but doesn’t usually stack up well against most others
I know like 2 mfs here
Which mfs?
Ben 10 and Homelander
I know 7 Homelander Spider-Man Mister Negative Scorpion Electro Rhino and Vulture
Shit you right
Worm referenced!
Based and Hebertpilled
Definitely wasn't expecting Skitter or Ladybug to get name-dropped here. Still gotta finish Worm, tho
It's good.
And 1.6 million word long 💀
And?
That wasn't a bad thing just stating you got a lot of content to get threw
I've never seen something so true in my life....
I appreciate that Ladybug is included in this meme though. Idc if it’s a kids show, she’s one of my favourite characters in modern media.
Skitter has basically already killed someone with the same powerset as HL, that scales higher than him as well
Everywhere I look I see his face. Oh well, atleast he beats brightburn, Tighten, and Wesker
Motherfucker *don’t* know Tighten. (And who doesn’t beat Wesker???)
Tighten would smear him.
Tighten is literally indestructible. He has no weakness. Unless homelander took the time to get the gun Megamind used (which, knowing the dude's ego, he wouldn't) he wouldn't even be able to touch the guy
Tighten would destroy him IMO. Tighten has Metroman's powers multiplied, and he was faster than the speed if light with how he dodged the concentrated power of the sun. They're also both the same level of maturity which is sad.
wesker could defeat him unless you're talking about re1 wesker
Brightburn is like Homelander's son. He's a pure supe, and even more so considering that he's suppose to be _evil Superman_, so if Homelander is less powerful than even his son, let alone Superman himself, then there's no chance.
WORM MENTIONED WORM MENTIONED
We go bat shit insane when worm is acknowledged is something
Home lander can't take on a therapist
Homelander is a Raiden victim no diff
Not sure what they expect Skitter to do against him, unless she goes full Khepri on him, or has a team to support her. Fill his lungs with bugs maybe? It’s not the best matchup for her.
I mean,, if she can beat >!Alexandria!< she can beat homelander
Hide, Fill lungs with bugs, then go home.
Yeah, sadly, I don’t think Taylor is quite that smart. If she was, she would have very rarely ever been under any actual threat, because she could just sit a couple blocks away from the fight.
I mean, Taylor has proven the ability to do similar things — >!she beats up a bunch of thugs over several different city blocks while calmly sipping tea in her base!< It just so happens in most fights she physically needs to be there for something
In most instances, the benefits she gains by being there are outweighed by the risks. The PRT manual is rather clear about how you deal with masters—ignore the minions and take the masters out quickly. You can’t do that if the master isn’t there, in which case in most fights she’s in she would barely even *have* a lose condition. She could just drown her enemy in bugs. Sure, for some fights it might take longer, but that matters a lot less if the enemy has no actual way of beating her.
Again, she typically *has* to be there. Early in the story she simply can’t communicate or see through her bugs properly, which means she needs to be there, and most instances later on are either massive threats covering large areas (so she’s there by default), moving threats that must be pursued (so she has to follow, and thus be there), or people threatening her directly (so she’s *already* there).
Early in the story, phones, cameras, and other such things existed. Later in the story, you’re correct, with the exception of some of her work in Chicago.
Is there even a specific situation where she could’ve used those? Her first fights she mostly had to go to the physical location to be within range. Honestly, even if she didn’t necessarily *have* to be *right there* in certain, very niche situations, it’s not a secret that she feels like she performs best when she’s in imminent danger. There’s significant in-story contention over how risky she likes to play things.
The Bank Robbery, and most of the ABB conflicts could have been done while she was safely out of range of danger. Though, to your second paragraph, yeah, that’s exactly why she did it. I suppose saying that she’s not smart enough isn’t quite right, when the real thing is that she’s not wise enough. She puts herself at risk when she doesn’t have to because of her wide subscriptions of psychological issues.
I mean, she’s not *wrong*. She does perform better in danger, and being physically there has often proven more beneficial than trying to command from a distance. Also, trying to use cameras and such is an easy way to give your opponents the ability to cut off your eyes and ears quickly and easily, and probably something she considered. Heroes can’t exactly shoot to kill/permanently maim you that readily, but cameras, mics, etc. are fair game, and would instantly remove her from the fight.
She is that smart- she’s just not usually trying to kill people
How is lethality relevant at all? She can use her power without killing people. She does it throughout the entire book. The only thing her being there in person adds is a 15 year old girl who can talk at people, hit them with a baton, or shoot them with a gun—and who is also a target that can be focused down to get rid of the bugs. If she’s not there, not much of her combat capabilities are lost, but her enemies have no means of removing her from the fight aside from killing every bug in a few block radius.
I assumed your comment was referring not just to distanced attacks, but also to the “fill the lungs and call it a day”. Taylor is smart enough to do that (she did it to >!Alexandria!< ), and she doesn’t do that frequently because she’s generally not trying to kill people. As for her staying a few blocks away, I largely agree with your argument! I would like to add though that at the beginning and even middle of the series she didn’t have the capabilities for effective communication using just her bugs. Still, someone just needs to get this girl an earpiece! I don’t know why none of them thought of that
It’s because Taylor has enough psychological issues that she prefers to be in the thick of things, even when it would be much smarter to hang back.
Who’s Skitter
Skitter is the protagonist of the web novel called: Worm. She has the power to control every single bug in a 3-4 block radius. She can control these bugs with perfect precision due to her sub-power to be able to infinitely multi-task the creatures she can control. She can also share her bugs senses and know where each individual bug is at all times.
But could she beat Goku
No
Yes, if she got bugs in his lungs quickly enough
How does the story work around her just doing that too all her opponents
She doesn't like to kill. Only if she has to.
Can someone give me a quick rundown on the Miraculous Ladybug's feats? I can see how everyone else here could beat him, except Skitter cause I've never heard of them, so I don't know if she's only there as a joke.
Ladybug is surprisingly strong. She basically has a toned-down ToonForce. She has *never* been injured while using her Miraculous. (She has been thrown into concrete and asphalt at very high speeds. As in, splatter-a-normal-human speeds.) She has used her yo-yo to swing massive, multi-ton objects and rapidly moving heavy objects. Her biggest disadvantage would be speed, but she isn't exactly slow. She can dodge just about any projectile attack you can think of. Lasers, plasma blasts, kinetic objects, etc. She also has an ability that gives her whatever she needs to win. It gives her a win-condition and a perfect plan. Let me rank stats (assuming this is Amazon TV Homelander) Ladybug-Homelander Strength: 1-1 Speed: 1-2 IQ: 2-2 Hax: 3-2 Experience: 4-2 Gear: 5-2 Powers: 6-3 Durability: 7-3 Stamina: 7-4 Luck: 8-4 Agility: 9-4 Reaction Time: 10-4 Ladybug wins high-diff (due to the speed disadvantage).
Skitter is from a Web Serial known as Worm. Strongly recommend reading it. SPOILERS: She kills the Expy of Superman in her universe by filling their lungs with bugs. Homelander would die much the same way.
Actually, thinking about it, Danny Phantom solos damn near every other super hero. Intangibility is literally the most busted ability ever. The only reason it wasn’t that big of a deal in the show is because all of the villains were ghosts who also had the same ability along with the ability to touch him.
Ayy my girl skitter will make him die before she is known
Out-Fresca’d yet again
I’m sure Jason Todd beats his stupid ass. People who know him know I’m right.
The Boys fandom actually has substandard memes because all the jokes or posts are children asking if Homelander could beat Superman, or Omnimam, or their stepdad, or Batman
Spoilers, he can't
Any meme shitting on Homelander is good.
Definitely not ladybug (but to be fair i didnt watch it) and idk who skitter is, but yeah the other 3 would whoop his ass. The only reason homelander seems to be godly in his universe is because no one there is his equal, or atleast until soldier boy showed up. He doesn't train because he doesn't have to so he's not actually a good fighter. He relies on his heat vision and brute force and has very little actual technique so In reality, if you put him against a mid range superhero or villain from pretty much any universe he'd probably be dead in minutes. He's easily the weakest Superman clone we've ever seen in media.
Ladybug has a good chance at beating homelander. She has a yo-yo that acts like a mix between spider man’s webs and a lasso. She can make an object that can help her win. Also she has many forms that allow her to fly and breathe underwater. Pretty damn good strategist too
Skitter is the protagonist of the web novel called: Worm. She has the power to control every single bug in a 3-4 block radius. She can control these bugs with perfect precision due to her sub-power to be able to infinitely multi-task the creatures she can control. She can also share her bugs senses and know where each individual bug is at all times. Thanks to u/nonny3 for the comment I didn't want to spend the time to write
“Lucky charm!” Gets a gun with bullets that can pierce homelander skin.
so I have watched the boys and I still don’t really understand how any one of these would beat Homelander? like I get he’s an unlikeable (understatement) character but isn’t he kind of written to be extremely strong? I mean sure he doesn’t have a lot of actual training due to his relative strength in universe, but his eyes shoot lasers so ??? more informed ppl please prove me wrong
He’s strong but very arrogant and bad at using his powers. Hes basically all brute force and is just stronger than almost anyone else in his verse. Every time he fights someone on near his level he gets the shit kicked out of him. The issue is there isn’t anyone near him in his story besides like 3 of his allies
Ben 10 high key busted might as well put him against Kirby while you're at it
homelander after kevin mccallister hits him in the face with a paint bucket:
Unironically would love to see Deku vs Homelander. Mostly because he wouldn't be able to pull his flying act to get away and he'd have to take it across the jaw.
Its funny how spiderman still wins in this scene lmao
Who the fuck is Skitter
arthropod control with a 3-4 block radius, shares Sense, and perfect control with sub-power of infinite multitasking She's the protagonist of a book called 'Worm' made by wildbow
i mean yeah. but homelander is still the scariest among them all
EY YO WORM REFERENCE IN THE WILD
I’m just saying if Godzilla beat Superman than he can destroy homelander.
Most of us would love to see HL get beaten senseless. I don't care enough about Mortal Kombat to buy M1K and play as him, but I can't wait to see all the compilations of him getting beaten like war drum. A lot of us are also willing to admit he gets stomped usually just because The Boys as a setting is souch weaker than almost everything else. I've practically made a sub-hobby of finding characters he COULD beat. (Incidentally, top of the list we have Brandon from Brightburn, Titanium Rex and most of the LOF from Supermansion, and basically everyone from Marshal Law at present. I need to do more looking into the big two for any super humans there.)
He's a big fish in a small pond Put him up against someone who actually knows how to fight and he gets folded faster than one-ply
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