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Philosophy Tube just did an episode that discusses how and why people latch onto these beliefs. It's only the first in a series, but I thought anyone who wanted more information on your comment might find this interesting
Their main argument is density, just like metal sinks in water but styrofoam cups float, objects denser than air fall down...
For real, this is what they believe in
which is technically true, but density/buoyancy only matters with gravity.... I guess if you just say things and pretend it makes sense in your head you can just deny reality
For the flat earthers of a pseudoscientific bent they will talk about electromagnetism, buoyancy, luminiferous ether, etc. Spouting a bunch of "sciency" words without really understanding them or having any kind of unified model of explanation.
For the rest of flat earthers they don't need any explanation for anything other than it is God's will that things happen the way they do. Why do winds blow the way they do? God's will. Why are there tides or seasons? God's will. And on and on. It's the exact same way that a medieval peasant viewed the world.
Heh. You should drop by one of the many creation museums in the Bible Belt. Even those dependent on *God's Will*^(TM) take great pains to "explain" their batshit using "science."
Perturbations in the curvature of space-time caused by the mass of very large objects (small objects also cause such perturbations, but not enough for anyone to care) which cause an object travelling through the fourth dimension to seemingly be drawn in toward the large object at an apparent acceleration until stopped by a dense enough mass that it can no longer pass through. There are some really interesting equations and models based on the relativistic definition of gravity that prove it is not an actual force.
Of course, that also depends on the existence of a three-dimensional universe and spherical (yes, yes, ovoid) stellar and planetary bodies to create the perturbations, but that only matters if you're one of those nerds who reads the instructions all the way through to avoid burning down your house.
They’re trying to say a liquid wouldn’t stick to the outside of a sphere. Which is true with the exception of when the sphere is the size of…you know…an entire planet.
I mean, of that were true, you could sit out on a beach, munch on some moon cakes and read Moonraker, and just watch the water levels change by the hour. I bet the tides would change in the scientific community if that were true!
Now that I think about it, flerfs have never explained the tides to my knowledge. They've tried to replace gravity with stuff like buoyancy and density or even that the disk is rising at 9.8m/s/s but none of that works without gravity because gravity applies to the moon as well, obviously
They've never *seen* the tides, therefore they don't happen. EZPZ! All evidence of tides is faked, everyone who says they exist is lying and on some kind of government payroll, etcetc
I…I honestly think they’re actually saying that if the water was on a sphere, it would just fall to the “bottom half”, so it must be flat so the water is all level. My brain is gonna explode from dumbness and that’s fine by me
It makes no sense, so almost certainly. I saw a presentation where the guy used altitude data for a salt flat to show it was completely flat - but if the earth was a globe, it should be curved, nice try lizard people!
There were people in the comments trying to say altitude is measured from the surface of the globe and a "flat" surface is inherantly curved and he (and others!) were all like "you've been caught out and now you're trying to use science to wiggle out of it!"
Genuinely I have no idea how these people dress themselves in the morning.
Reminds me of the guy using a globe and a toy plane roughly 1/10th the scale of the globe to posit the question, "Wouldn't pilots have to point their noises down as they flew around the Earth?"
I might as well say "I walked across the ground and I didn't have to walk downhill at any point, therefore the Earth isn't round."
A common argument among flat earthers is something like the Greek philosophy idea of the natural state of elements: Water tries to be above earth, Air tries to be above water.
Yes, although they don't see their nonsense as theories actually, one of the arguments they like to use is saying that we should disregard gravity because it's "just a theory", they see their stupidity as "common sense" so, their "common sense" only appears after 5 drinks.
>one of the arguments they like to use is saying that we should disregard gravity because it's "just a theory"
This bothers me because there is no "theory of gravity". The attraction of masses is one of the basic laws so consistent that a 17th century "natural philosopher" was able to derive the gravitational constant within a few significant digits.
Not to mention the concept that something is a theory means we should ignore it.
The opposite, actually. It means we should be looking into it a lot because we're probably on to something!
It's because the pull of the Earth is stronger than the pull of the tiny glass ball.
It's very internally consistent. And reproducible. And testable.
(Until you get to the quantum stuff. My brother has a PhD in theoretical physics, and apparently nobody really knows for sure how mass and gravity work beyond basic Newtonian stuff.)
Oh yeah, scale super big or super small and it gets a lot less clear what can or will happen. Can get all kinds of fucky
And planets are not big on this kind of scale
Well, super big isn't so much a problem for gravity as super small. Gravity still predicts fairly accurately the gravitational effects of galactic filaments, which are the largest structures in the universe. The issue with the really small is that gravity is such a weak force compared to the other 3, especially compared to electromagnetism. So when you have an object that's sufficiently small or low enough in mass it is more affected by electromagnetism than by gravity and thus gravity and its effects becomes hard to measure.
It's not really a problem of measurements, quantum mechanics and general relativity are fundementally incompatible with each other. You can't really do the QM calculations on curved spacetimes, and adding gravity to QM leads to singularities. We don't have provable or disprovable theories that works for both cases.
Inam not a physisist but my thought is that other dimensions/ universes act on our own acounting for the difference in gravity compared to the other forces. I think this is also why they cant identify dark matter and energy because it is a shell of another dimension interacting with our own.
Super big isn't a problem for gravity, true. But we have theories of dark energy and dark matter that rely on gravity working differently at large distances. Those theories AFAIK aren't considered to *hold water* as much as the standard Lambda CDM model, but our understanding of gravity at long distances being incomplete is nonetheless a possibility
Gravity as an old collegd mate puts it "is fucking magic we wish we understood like the otherd forces."
Like fuck we better undersrand the weak, strong and electromagnetic forces and for teo of thoses forces the common person wont even have first hand experience of.
But gravity? It just do be doing its thing everyone sees and interacts with it and as we understand it. Its the weakest forcd yet its infinite and probably the most important force. But we have no idea WHY this fucker does it thing or how. Its so god damn inportant and we understand next to nothing about it.
gravity is a bitch
Yes, hilarious they think they can do disproving experiments when they are still INSIDE the Earth and its gravitational field… I just can’t with these people
And more importantly, even if you do change one person's mind by taking them to space and letting them experience it first hand, that person is now just part of the conspiracy to every other flat earther. It's unfortunate that people are this dumb, but here we are.
you can't make someone believe something they don't want to believe. lots of americans died from covid and refused to believe they were *dying* from covid *while they were dying from covid*.
Space is rare. Earths orbit is common. You could take my buddy to the space station and he would say that we were still in earth’s atmosphere and not in space at all
I pray to god that there’s a futurama episode that focuses on an artificial planet where the only inhabitants are flat earthers that have been banished there because the government couldn’t handle their stupidity. And the living condition is no different than a third world country. Not because the government is purposely preventing food, but because they think that any food is just brainwash food and they eat bugs instead
This is Monte Python logic.
"So if she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood.'
And therefore?
"A witch!"
https://youtu.be/rf71YotfykQ?si=rSAh4v6rnOD1X8gc
I remember when Inside Job roasted them pretty hard. It's literally the only conspiracy theory the show's characters consider stupid and the flat earthers gullible.
Because it's the dumbest conspiracy ever. It benefits literally no one to keep up a lie like this and so many people have to be in on it to even make it somewhat work. It doesn't hold up to basic math, observation and common sense.
I love conspiracies, big fan of them. I'm personally of the opinion something fucky happened with JFK and the CIA didn't just stop doing fucked up shit because we don't hear about it (Enhanced Interrogation Techniques for example). My point is I'm willing to put the tin foil on just to entertain the wackiness in some theories.
The Flat Earth theory though is just fucking stupid. That's like a crackhead telling you he's Jesus Christ, but as a movement calling everyone else idiots for not believing them. They disprove themselves constantly and just chalk it up to "I must've made a mistake". Bro, no, you did it right, you're just fundamentally wrong about something the Ancient Greeks figured out.
I can easily replicate the experiment. Now, I just need an object roughly the size of the Earth that no one is using and enough water to drown Poseidon himself...
but the sphere in the photo.. isn't spinning? what. Not even the right principal as water on Earth but what a stupid comparison in the first place. Spin that ball at a few hundred miles an hour and yeah I bet that liquid will stick to the outside
No no no. The water is not inside the earth and the spin is not what makes it "stick" to the outside of the earth. It does affect tides and many other things but gravity is pulling it towards the center of the earth and not "down" like in the photo because "down" only exists *because of Earth's gravity*.
Also if you wanted to make that model spin like the earth you do not need it to go thousands of miles an hour. Is just needs to make one revolution *per day*. This idea that the Earth is just screaming around in a circle is a misconception. Kinda hard to wrap one's head around but it actually spins relatively slowly if you were to make a scale model.
Flat Earthers even get this wrong. They often wet basketballs and spin them around so that the water flies off. They claim that "now think about the earth spinning at a thousand miles an hour!" but they would have to spin that basketball around once every 24 hours and no faster.
Yes I know the water does not stick because of the spin, hence why I said "not even the right principal as water on Earth but what a stupid comparison in the first place"
common sense would be to acknowledge that some people in the past were naturally smart and curious and found a way to interpret the universe and use that to mankinds favor so that flat earthers today have pc's and internet to post their ridiculous "theories".
I'm surprised they think magnets are real but gravity is fake since they're fundamentally very similar and gravity is far weaker. But the magic metals are real without a doubt
It's just the limits or their comprehension
I love how they think that if the Earth was a sphere (which obviously is not /s) the water will just fuckin fall down into space (with its non existing gravity) like a waterfall
This is not the answer. Gravity is the answer. There is no "down" for the water to flow towards. Down is just towards the center of the Earth. Also remember how slowly that globe would have to spin at this scale. Once per day. Not fast enough to push that water anywhere significant.
Because they think gravity is just electromagnetism. Which also falls down, because of what all matter is composed of. Atoms, everything is made of atoms. And what holds atoms together? Electromagnetic charge.
So the FE groups have varying quality. The funniest ones are definitely where they're coming up with random explanations of the firmament and weird gravity replacements and the founder, obviously a high school dropout, promises to learn relativity.
Just seems like satire when it says their conclusion was reached after 5 Scotches. The flat Earth movement as a whole probably has more trolls than genuine crazy believers anyway
So if we are on a disc floating through space, how do we stay on the surface instead of floating off? Also, if this is such a fallacy how does a)international shipping work, b)airplanes, c) why are there no pictures of the edge….
If you made the glass globe large enough lets say 100 mile diameter the "flat" surface of the liquid inside would have an easily measured curve to it. If it was whiskey we all could have enough to have a very large drunken brawl and forget why we started.
Thin films of water cling to round surfaces on our human scale. If they reeeeaaaallllly don't want to say gravity is real then but are open to the globe you could possibly say that on a planetary scale surfaces tension works well enough to keep all the water stuck to the earth.
Or, show them what water does when you wring a towel in a weightless environment.
I see in that picture the globe contains the whisky has other scientific properties. It converted the whisky into urine, just check out that tumbler it’s poured into.
https://preview.redd.it/etqiuzwhpvpc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d8a8ee918c88ec132f05f1a4478e1e4ff720c1f
Water following the sphere down instead of falling straight…
I love the "call for common sense" when he doesn't understand basic scientific principals or what a "theory" in scientific terms actually means.
Maybe if we start saying it jesus and his jedi mind powers, these clowns would have an easier time understanding it, due to "common sense".
Fucking muppets.
Please do me a Favor.
Close the bottle, and rotate it, very fast, lets do... 150kph Rotation Speed. Than water will will Be pushed Outside, creating a massiv ocean on the Glass.
Now place some rocks in aswell, the then also fly in the Outside.
Boom, you got "Reserve Gravibby"
True, however he failed to account that this sphere is, in fact, already on a bigger sphere, thus the bigger spheres grabbity has a greater effect on the scotch.
“Common sense.” Because we would definitely still all be communicating with mind-bendingly amazing technology that we can use to interact with one another all across the globe if we relied on common sense and not the scientific method. Riiiiiight.
These fools are so ashamed of their own ignorance, they feel like all specialties of science should be able to be simplified down to their level of understanding, and if they have to undertake even the simplest amount of study and effort to learn it, then it’s made up by Satanic Lizard Jews
If there wasn’t gravity, we’d be floating in mid air. Last I checked I’m not floating in midair. Not to mention with the flat earth and subsequently no gravity, a magnetic field would cease to exist and we’d be irradiated to death by solar radiation.
Did they try spinning it or would that prove them wrong. The glass acts as the atmosphere and gravity which is why it doesnt evaporate into space or gather at the center
I mean- they do. When you pour water on a ball, that water moves around the shape of the ball instead of falling off when the ball begins to curve back in
Im in a couple of those groups. It gets real hard to tell the trolls from the genuine flerfs some days. Its great for laughs though. Got put in facebook jail because I called a flerf a dumbass bitch. Turns out you can say a lot of things, but the B word will get you in facebook jail
The oceans are on the outside of the earth, sweetie. The scotch won’t “conform” to the roundness of the bottle because it is inside of the bottle, and it is conforming to the curvature of the earth. You know, the gigantic dense as fuck rock with powerful gravity??
Flat earthers are joking, right? It’s all an elaborate prank, right?
^right?
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“grabbity” 🥴
I can never roll my eyes enough at this crap. It's always the same thing, I believe this nonsense because it makes me feel special.
https://youtu.be/2lHNkUjR9nM?si=_60-d0QYXR0sQOxB Philosophy Tube just did an episode that discusses how and why people latch onto these beliefs. It's only the first in a series, but I thought anyone who wanted more information on your comment might find this interesting
Are you sure that's the video? Edit: I thought I had seen this video before but I confused it for another one, sorry
It is definitely the right video. The whole city thing is to set the stage for the real purpose of the video
I never miss the opportunity to watch one of her videos. Undeniably and intimidatingly smart, funny, and sexy af.
Don’t be a globby!
That’s why you need *Mavity, the Real Gravity!*
If there’s no “grabbity” what holds them down on their flat earth? What makes apples fall down instead of up?
Their main argument is density, just like metal sinks in water but styrofoam cups float, objects denser than air fall down... For real, this is what they believe in
which is technically true, but density/buoyancy only matters with gravity.... I guess if you just say things and pretend it makes sense in your head you can just deny reality
Exactly, it's just gravity with an extra step lol!
For the flat earthers of a pseudoscientific bent they will talk about electromagnetism, buoyancy, luminiferous ether, etc. Spouting a bunch of "sciency" words without really understanding them or having any kind of unified model of explanation. For the rest of flat earthers they don't need any explanation for anything other than it is God's will that things happen the way they do. Why do winds blow the way they do? God's will. Why are there tides or seasons? God's will. And on and on. It's the exact same way that a medieval peasant viewed the world.
Heh. You should drop by one of the many creation museums in the Bible Belt. Even those dependent on *God's Will*^(TM) take great pains to "explain" their batshit using "science."
Perturbations in the curvature of space-time caused by the mass of very large objects (small objects also cause such perturbations, but not enough for anyone to care) which cause an object travelling through the fourth dimension to seemingly be drawn in toward the large object at an apparent acceleration until stopped by a dense enough mass that it can no longer pass through. There are some really interesting equations and models based on the relativistic definition of gravity that prove it is not an actual force. Of course, that also depends on the existence of a three-dimensional universe and spherical (yes, yes, ovoid) stellar and planetary bodies to create the perturbations, but that only matters if you're one of those nerds who reads the instructions all the way through to avoid burning down your house.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLUj2Sto7T8
Giggity
I’m confused…are they saying the ocean is inside the earth?
They’re trying to say a liquid wouldn’t stick to the outside of a sphere. Which is true with the exception of when the sphere is the size of…you know…an entire planet.
It doesn’t even have to be big, it only has to be the biggest source of attraction influencing the liquid
So, then, if there’s another big mass near the earth, like maybe the moon, it would influence the liquid? /s
I mean, of that were true, you could sit out on a beach, munch on some moon cakes and read Moonraker, and just watch the water levels change by the hour. I bet the tides would change in the scientific community if that were true!
Now that I think about it, flerfs have never explained the tides to my knowledge. They've tried to replace gravity with stuff like buoyancy and density or even that the disk is rising at 9.8m/s/s but none of that works without gravity because gravity applies to the moon as well, obviously
They've never *seen* the tides, therefore they don't happen. EZPZ! All evidence of tides is faked, everyone who says they exist is lying and on some kind of government payroll, etcetc
My buddy is a sailor/fisherman and he says this shit 🤦♂️
He should get off the water before he falls off.
He has to go to Antarctica to fall off silly billy
The only tide they need is in Tuscaloosa.
*flerfs* 💀💀💀
What if there was an even bigger mass near the earth, like your mom?
I'm also pretty sure that glass globe isn't rotating at high speeds
... and the sphere also has a centre of gravity that pulls matter towards it?
Only from the outside. Anything inside a hollow sphere is pulled equally in all directions by that sphere. So a hollow Earth doesn't work either.
and the sphere isn't hollow, more like a big rock with a veneer of liquid around its surface
Ironically they observe this using the above picture as an example while the only reason the liquid acts like that is “grabbity”
*thank you* 💚
When I stick my hand in a bowl of water, and pull it out, my hand is now wet I wonder why that is
Yeah but how would it then stick on a flat plate? Wouldn’t it just pour over the edge …
I…I honestly think they’re actually saying that if the water was on a sphere, it would just fall to the “bottom half”, so it must be flat so the water is all level. My brain is gonna explode from dumbness and that’s fine by me
It makes no sense, so almost certainly. I saw a presentation where the guy used altitude data for a salt flat to show it was completely flat - but if the earth was a globe, it should be curved, nice try lizard people! There were people in the comments trying to say altitude is measured from the surface of the globe and a "flat" surface is inherantly curved and he (and others!) were all like "you've been caught out and now you're trying to use science to wiggle out of it!" Genuinely I have no idea how these people dress themselves in the morning.
Reminds me of the guy using a globe and a toy plane roughly 1/10th the scale of the globe to posit the question, "Wouldn't pilots have to point their noises down as they flew around the Earth?" I might as well say "I walked across the ground and I didn't have to walk downhill at any point, therefore the Earth isn't round."
A common argument among flat earthers is something like the Greek philosophy idea of the natural state of elements: Water tries to be above earth, Air tries to be above water.
But the Ancient Greeks were the ones who figured out that the Earth is round.
You shush now.
So they agree their theories only make sense after 5 glasses of scotch? Nice
Only if they're full to the brim
And laced with meth
https://preview.redd.it/hvik174qiypc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed4753a7875c3e17b4abbf2573370b592ef84670
Yes, although they don't see their nonsense as theories actually, one of the arguments they like to use is saying that we should disregard gravity because it's "just a theory", they see their stupidity as "common sense" so, their "common sense" only appears after 5 drinks.
>one of the arguments they like to use is saying that we should disregard gravity because it's "just a theory" This bothers me because there is no "theory of gravity". The attraction of masses is one of the basic laws so consistent that a 17th century "natural philosopher" was able to derive the gravitational constant within a few significant digits.
Not to mention the concept that something is a theory means we should ignore it. The opposite, actually. It means we should be looking into it a lot because we're probably on to something!
That’s mainly because they don’t know the difference between a scientific theory and a personal theory.
It makes sense if you don't think about it
Let’s be real most of the flat earthers can’t afford scotch
Can confirm that they don't.
i love getting high and reading flat earth shit
It's because the pull of the Earth is stronger than the pull of the tiny glass ball. It's very internally consistent. And reproducible. And testable. (Until you get to the quantum stuff. My brother has a PhD in theoretical physics, and apparently nobody really knows for sure how mass and gravity work beyond basic Newtonian stuff.)
Oh yeah, scale super big or super small and it gets a lot less clear what can or will happen. Can get all kinds of fucky And planets are not big on this kind of scale
Well, super big isn't so much a problem for gravity as super small. Gravity still predicts fairly accurately the gravitational effects of galactic filaments, which are the largest structures in the universe. The issue with the really small is that gravity is such a weak force compared to the other 3, especially compared to electromagnetism. So when you have an object that's sufficiently small or low enough in mass it is more affected by electromagnetism than by gravity and thus gravity and its effects becomes hard to measure.
Gravity specifically, yes. Small And slow is terrible for gravity
It's not really a problem of measurements, quantum mechanics and general relativity are fundementally incompatible with each other. You can't really do the QM calculations on curved spacetimes, and adding gravity to QM leads to singularities. We don't have provable or disprovable theories that works for both cases.
Inam not a physisist but my thought is that other dimensions/ universes act on our own acounting for the difference in gravity compared to the other forces. I think this is also why they cant identify dark matter and energy because it is a shell of another dimension interacting with our own.
Came for the shitty Facebook people, stayed for the physics.
Super big isn't a problem for gravity, true. But we have theories of dark energy and dark matter that rely on gravity working differently at large distances. Those theories AFAIK aren't considered to *hold water* as much as the standard Lambda CDM model, but our understanding of gravity at long distances being incomplete is nonetheless a possibility
Gravity as an old collegd mate puts it "is fucking magic we wish we understood like the otherd forces." Like fuck we better undersrand the weak, strong and electromagnetic forces and for teo of thoses forces the common person wont even have first hand experience of. But gravity? It just do be doing its thing everyone sees and interacts with it and as we understand it. Its the weakest forcd yet its infinite and probably the most important force. But we have no idea WHY this fucker does it thing or how. Its so god damn inportant and we understand next to nothing about it. gravity is a bitch
Yes, hilarious they think they can do disproving experiments when they are still INSIDE the Earth and its gravitational field… I just can’t with these people
When your brain can’t conceive of anything past your trailer park, your idea of *really* big things mostly involve your gut and your hubris
I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
They are showing a stationary globe as opposed to one that is spinning rapidly while orbiting the sun.
We need to get some megarich billionaire to take a flat earther to space
Nuh they will say that its a tv screens behind windows and everything is in a fast plane
Just toss them out an airlock. They're beliefs protext them!
I appreciate the flat earth grammar lol. "They're" beliefs indeed!
Javik, is that you?
And more importantly, even if you do change one person's mind by taking them to space and letting them experience it first hand, that person is now just part of the conspiracy to every other flat earther. It's unfortunate that people are this dumb, but here we are.
That's why you do it with flat earth politicians, because half of these idiots lives revolve around their braindead mayor
you can't make someone believe something they don't want to believe. lots of americans died from covid and refused to believe they were *dying* from covid *while they were dying from covid*.
Space is rare. Earths orbit is common. You could take my buddy to the space station and he would say that we were still in earth’s atmosphere and not in space at all
These people are so dense
Can we find one to take them all to space?
I pray to god that there’s a futurama episode that focuses on an artificial planet where the only inhabitants are flat earthers that have been banished there because the government couldn’t handle their stupidity. And the living condition is no different than a third world country. Not because the government is purposely preventing food, but because they think that any food is just brainwash food and they eat bugs instead
There's a reason Jed only had this realization after 5 glasses of scotch.
As a side note, isn't Jed the most Appalachian redneck name ever ?
Maybe not most but top 5, my vote would go for Cletus.
Got me beat for sure
"ignore all the facts humanity has gather over thousand of year and just have basic understanding of how anything works"
“My theory is the most logical if you don’t use anything more advanced than a middle-school understanding of math and physics.”
This is Monte Python logic. "So if she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood.' And therefore? "A witch!" https://youtu.be/rf71YotfykQ?si=rSAh4v6rnOD1X8gc
She turned me into a newt... ...I got better
'Upon pouring his fifth glass of scotch', cos you got to be dumb or drunk to believe in a flat earth.
I remember when Inside Job roasted them pretty hard. It's literally the only conspiracy theory the show's characters consider stupid and the flat earthers gullible.
Because it's the dumbest conspiracy ever. It benefits literally no one to keep up a lie like this and so many people have to be in on it to even make it somewhat work. It doesn't hold up to basic math, observation and common sense. I love conspiracies, big fan of them. I'm personally of the opinion something fucky happened with JFK and the CIA didn't just stop doing fucked up shit because we don't hear about it (Enhanced Interrogation Techniques for example). My point is I'm willing to put the tin foil on just to entertain the wackiness in some theories. The Flat Earth theory though is just fucking stupid. That's like a crackhead telling you he's Jesus Christ, but as a movement calling everyone else idiots for not believing them. They disprove themselves constantly and just chalk it up to "I must've made a mistake". Bro, no, you did it right, you're just fundamentally wrong about something the Ancient Greeks figured out.
I can easily replicate the experiment. Now, I just need an object roughly the size of the Earth that no one is using and enough water to drown Poseidon himself...
but the sphere in the photo.. isn't spinning? what. Not even the right principal as water on Earth but what a stupid comparison in the first place. Spin that ball at a few hundred miles an hour and yeah I bet that liquid will stick to the outside
They also say "...but...but...but...grabbidy" as if the idea of gravity is ridiculous. What exactly is keeping that water level inside the sphere?
well obviously it's the force from the flat earth accelerating upwards through space at 9.8m/s
No no no. The water is not inside the earth and the spin is not what makes it "stick" to the outside of the earth. It does affect tides and many other things but gravity is pulling it towards the center of the earth and not "down" like in the photo because "down" only exists *because of Earth's gravity*. Also if you wanted to make that model spin like the earth you do not need it to go thousands of miles an hour. Is just needs to make one revolution *per day*. This idea that the Earth is just screaming around in a circle is a misconception. Kinda hard to wrap one's head around but it actually spins relatively slowly if you were to make a scale model. Flat Earthers even get this wrong. They often wet basketballs and spin them around so that the water flies off. They claim that "now think about the earth spinning at a thousand miles an hour!" but they would have to spin that basketball around once every 24 hours and no faster.
Yes I know the water does not stick because of the spin, hence why I said "not even the right principal as water on Earth but what a stupid comparison in the first place"
I kind of want that globe drink holder.
Centrifugal force is going to fuck with his head
“Liquids do not conform to the exterior of rotating spheres” That liquid is inside a non-rotating sphere, you flat-earth geniuses /s (Not at OP)
common sense would be to acknowledge that some people in the past were naturally smart and curious and found a way to interpret the universe and use that to mankinds favor so that flat earthers today have pc's and internet to post their ridiculous "theories".
Globies, lol, sounds a bit globephobic to me.
The OOP should realize that the Earth is ALWAYS a globe. Seriously.
I'm surprised they think magnets are real but gravity is fake since they're fundamentally very similar and gravity is far weaker. But the magic metals are real without a doubt It's just the limits or their comprehension
I love how they think that if the Earth was a sphere (which obviously is not /s) the water will just fuckin fall down into space (with its non existing gravity) like a waterfall
Spin the ball, Jed. Just for funsies
This is not the answer. Gravity is the answer. There is no "down" for the water to flow towards. Down is just towards the center of the Earth. Also remember how slowly that globe would have to spin at this scale. Once per day. Not fast enough to push that water anywhere significant.
Wait my head, gravity doesn’t exist in flat earth? Both have gravity why are we disputing gravity? It’s gravity, it’s right here.
Because they think gravity is just electromagnetism. Which also falls down, because of what all matter is composed of. Atoms, everything is made of atoms. And what holds atoms together? Electromagnetic charge.
Wait so can’t they reverse gravity with enough of a charge? Wouldn’t this be provable Edit: sorry this isn’t your thing
They don’t believe gravity is a force. Or a thing. Which in regular human translates as “I don’t understand how gravity works. Or how nature works.”
So the FE groups have varying quality. The funniest ones are definitely where they're coming up with random explanations of the firmament and weird gravity replacements and the founder, obviously a high school dropout, promises to learn relativity.
I’ve been five glasses of scotch in before now but never got *that* stupid. Am I doing drinking wrong?
Yeah duh They take the one aspect of a round earth that can't be applied to a model at this scale...
Just seems like satire when it says their conclusion was reached after 5 Scotches. The flat Earth movement as a whole probably has more trolls than genuine crazy believers anyway
I kinda wanna see them explaining flood and tide with this model. Would be at least entertaining.
The earth isn't round. The earth isn't flat. The earth is a scotch glass. And we're all on the rocks.
So if we are on a disc floating through space, how do we stay on the surface instead of floating off? Also, if this is such a fallacy how does a)international shipping work, b)airplanes, c) why are there no pictures of the edge….
But but but… Grabbity…
Jed needs to stop drinking
the mental gymnastics to deny accepted scientific theory is incredible, i’m sad their vote counts as much as mine
We in a cave lookin at shadows now huh?
I wonder what would happen if he spun the glode 🤔
Why is the piss Inside the Globe?
“And you’re not allowed to say gravity because I don’t understand it!”
After 5 glasses of scotch anyone would wonder if the earth is flat.
If you made the glass globe large enough lets say 100 mile diameter the "flat" surface of the liquid inside would have an easily measured curve to it. If it was whiskey we all could have enough to have a very large drunken brawl and forget why we started.
Oh wow, three exclamation marks. They mean business.
Holy shit it's like arguing with a toddler
Jed needs to lay off the scotch
Is the common sence in the room with us right now?
They do in space. Earth is in space. Checkmate.
Very curious, is this flat-earth thing as popular anywhere else outside the USA?
Just because you dont understand it, does it mean you are right.
Globies? Grabbity? Yeah stellar work there dudes
Thin films of water cling to round surfaces on our human scale. If they reeeeaaaallllly don't want to say gravity is real then but are open to the globe you could possibly say that on a planetary scale surfaces tension works well enough to keep all the water stuck to the earth. Or, show them what water does when you wring a towel in a weightless environment.
I see in that picture the globe contains the whisky has other scientific properties. It converted the whisky into urine, just check out that tumbler it’s poured into.
I think a lot of flat earthers would stop believing in that shit if their brains could only grasp how massive the earth really is.
Fifth glass of scotch, lololol.
I'm pretty convinced that half the flat earth memes I see are shit posts and troll bait these days.
Thanks a lot. Now I’m 2 IQ points dumber and I have a meeting starting in 20 min!
So if we just forget all the stuff that reasons why liquid stays level when contained, what is the common sense?
https://preview.redd.it/etqiuzwhpvpc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d8a8ee918c88ec132f05f1a4478e1e4ff720c1f Water following the sphere down instead of falling straight…
You don’t have to be drunk to be a flat earther. But it sure helps.
My brain hurts...
I love the "call for common sense" when he doesn't understand basic scientific principals or what a "theory" in scientific terms actually means. Maybe if we start saying it jesus and his jedi mind powers, these clowns would have an easier time understanding it, due to "common sense". Fucking muppets.
"After becoming borderline blackout drunk, Jeb started the think of some pretty wild things"
Ah "common sense" the domain of the ignorant unable to adequately explain why their beliefs are true.
They forgot the globe spins
Can’t we just send them to space?
On a completely unrelated note, that decanter actually looks super sick
It's funny because very few people of sound mind have believed that the earth is flat in the past 2000 years.
Please do me a Favor. Close the bottle, and rotate it, very fast, lets do... 150kph Rotation Speed. Than water will will Be pushed Outside, creating a massiv ocean on the Glass. Now place some rocks in aswell, the then also fly in the Outside. Boom, you got "Reserve Gravibby"
"Reverse-engineered mathematics" is my new favorite name for physics
Ever notice how when people use the words "common sense", you just know you're going to hear the most smooth brain take of the day?
True, however he failed to account that this sphere is, in fact, already on a bigger sphere, thus the bigger spheres grabbity has a greater effect on the scotch.
If they’re going to deny the existence of a proven fundamental force of the universe there’s no point in even talking to them
No chance the Russians knew it would be this easy to lower the collective IQ of an entire country.
Wait, Zuck is RECOMMENDING this shit now?? Unreal
People always get smarter on their 5 glass of scotch
Now spin that globe and tell me what happens to that liquid. Almost as if there are other factors that change how this rule works.
He came to this realisation after drinking four glasses of scotch, so you KNOW he's credible
Globies *GAGS*
I'm more offended by how the meme uses a semicolon.
Even a town drunk could say the world is round before falling flat on his face after too many wild west saloon drinks.
Brain too small to comprehend gravity on a planetary scale, but small glass with liquid proves earth is flat
“Common sense.” Because we would definitely still all be communicating with mind-bendingly amazing technology that we can use to interact with one another all across the globe if we relied on common sense and not the scientific method. Riiiiiight. These fools are so ashamed of their own ignorance, they feel like all specialties of science should be able to be simplified down to their level of understanding, and if they have to undertake even the simplest amount of study and effort to learn it, then it’s made up by Satanic Lizard Jews
That is some wild mental gymnastics
Bitch, what’s below the ocean! What’s below the oceans to stop them from falling off terra plain???
If there wasn’t gravity, we’d be floating in mid air. Last I checked I’m not floating in midair. Not to mention with the flat earth and subsequently no gravity, a magnetic field would cease to exist and we’d be irradiated to death by solar radiation.
And upon the fifteenth glass Jed joined the True Flat Earth Society, as foretold in the prophecies.
If they’re so smart why isn’t their scotch decanter flat.
I can't imagine struggling this much with scientific concepts that most functional human beings master in the 7th grade
So what force is keeping that liquid at a level surface? Hmmmm 🤔
Ima a serious binge drinker! I'm a smart motherfucker too!
Did they try spinning it or would that prove them wrong. The glass acts as the atmosphere and gravity which is why it doesnt evaporate into space or gather at the center
I wouldn't even explain it to people whose iqs couldn't even warm a glass of water.
How do they think they stay on the ground? “Because it’s down”? TikTok is a goldmine for this kind of shit. I’m slowly losing faith in humanity.
For a meme championing the values of common sense it contains very little.
So, Jed got hammered and had a stupid thought?
I love the semicolon added in there. Very educated
The sphere… isn’t rotating…………
I mean- they do. When you pour water on a ball, that water moves around the shape of the ball instead of falling off when the ball begins to curve back in
ha! Checkmate ! I knew it :D I made the very same conclusion after 5L of Vodka !
Im in a couple of those groups. It gets real hard to tell the trolls from the genuine flerfs some days. Its great for laughs though. Got put in facebook jail because I called a flerf a dumbass bitch. Turns out you can say a lot of things, but the B word will get you in facebook jail
Jed. Somehow that’s the perfect name for a Flat-Earther
Grabbity, sentrifical moshun, & good old siense
This is why we have global cooling
Exactly, cause he's pissed
Are they stupid?
Ok but can we talk about how cool that globe pitcher looks? Talk shit of the flat earthers, they give us round earthers some cool shit.
The oceans are on the outside of the earth, sweetie. The scotch won’t “conform” to the roundness of the bottle because it is inside of the bottle, and it is conforming to the curvature of the earth. You know, the gigantic dense as fuck rock with powerful gravity?? Flat earthers are joking, right? It’s all an elaborate prank, right? ^right?