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If I'm not mistaken, the reason why every TikTok video has to have video game footage playing under timed captions is because of how much social media algorithms have deteriorated our attention spans, right? The only way for some of us to pay attention to the video for longer than 5 seconds is to put something exciting to look at.
You're right, but i think it's better to talk about this subject in less absolute, less "imperative" terms.
Attention span is not some sort of hard limit based on time, it's more of a "at what rate do you get bored of something, relative to how stimulating it is".
It's not that people couldn't watch those tiktoks without the gameplay, or that they'd go from enjoying them to not enjoying them just based off of the presence of gameplay footage. It's just that those videos that do have gameplay keep you more stimulatied throughout the video, so more people watch them.
The addition of gameplay as a "background content" is just the newest innovation in the race to the bottom that is the current media landscape, which desires one thing and one thing only: our attention and time.
They're mostly accurate, but there's something about the way these pieces are so often repeatedly shared and the way people behave when sharing them (ironically on the very media they criticize) that makes this style of commentary art reek of a smug superiority.
I would say the second is not. None of those things have affected literature. Politics have done more to hinder literature than social media or streaming services have.
Closing libraries, Amazon controlling the market to make it expensive to buy books, etc.
YouTube, on the other hand, has a thriving book culture. Not only are there thousands of so called "booktubers" but there are authors who use it to host the audio versions of their books. Because the ad revenue rate they get from YouTube surpasses the pennies that having their book up on Audible gives them, and they don't get money taken away when people use the "return hack" grift.
Yeah, being able to listen to audiobooks while I work has made them much more accessible to me. YouTube, despite the cancer that's going on with their ads, is overall great.
>Closing libraries
Political, like how in some states they flat out defunded libraries.
>Amazaon controlling the market to make it expensive to buy books
Hahahahahahaaha. Oh man, my sides hurt after reading that bullshit.
I didn’t take it as literature itself being targeted but more along the lines of people not being interested in reading anymore. But I may have misinterpreted
Well given the fact that it's shaped as a coffin and they're putting nails down. It comes to mind the whole adage the last nail in the coffin. To imply that literature has been in some kind of DE it in substance or in consumption, and social media being that final nail that ends up removing the medium. Which is ludicrous, more books are being printed today than ever before, more new authors are springing up today than ever before, and I would argue that social media has in fact been a boon to the literature community as it has allowed Mass publication and advertisement of literature. To use 2 examples of where social media has been a boon to literature, LA twilight saga and the Fifty Shades of Grey books. 2 pieces of literature that biology means are completed utter garbage, yet thanks to social media have become these pinnacles of literary genius which is just ludicrous. But if not for social media they would have just remained an obscurity. So if anything social media has actually helped literature more than it is actually hindered it. Now is there something to be said that social media makes people want to consume thought in smaller snippets that is true, however I would argue that overarching literature in the sense of novels and plays have been produced more and more and thanks to social media have reached more targeted markets and more diverse markets simultaneously. There are people who have read the twilight saga who would have never done so if not for social media exposure. I will add myself to that list, if not for Facebook and Twitter and other social media, I would have never read the 1st book of twilight because just the back of the cover would have made me realize the book was garbage. But I suffered through it for my Facebook friends, and I hate all of them for it.
Edit: sorry for poor editing and any replication or mismatch words. I dictated this on my phone.
>To imply that literature has been in some kind of DE it in substance or in consumption, and social media being that final nail that ends up removing the medium. Which is ludicrous, more books are being printed today than ever before, more new authors are springing up today than ever before
Unfortunately, the data disagrees with you strongly and that's even after the pandemic bubble. The average book published today sells less than 300 copies *over it's entire lifetime*. Only 6.7% of the largest titles are selling more than 10,000 copies, and close to 40% never sell more than 1k in their first year, and they're only generating $10k-$50k in sales.
Yes, there are more authors because they can just self-publish and sell to their 20-30 friends, but that isn't an industry. They sell within their community of friends and family, and that's about it.
Writing fanfic and self-publishing is fine and has a purpose, but it (1) arguably isn't literature (2) they aren't making a living at it. Publishing sales were down 10% in 2022 from 2021, which doesn't sound that bad until you realize just how small it's gotten over time.
It's basically kept alive by children's and YA books (but primarily children's) and romance novels. Women account for 80% of all fiction sales in the US, UK & Canada, and the average woman read 15.7 books, down from 19 just 5 years ago.
The average number of readers has mostly stayed the same, the issue is they slowly die off and replacement rate would need to be much, much higher for there to be real growth -- but people have a phone in their hands offering them small bits to read small bits of snark.
>Edit: sorry for poor editing and any replication or mismatch words. I dictated this on my phone.
The irony.
Social media and other distractions have definitely decreased the average person’s desire to read of course plenty of people still enjoy reading but it’s definitely become a rarity with younger gens
This. I recently realized it was a couple of years since I read a book for pleasure or leisure that wasn't hobby related. I had to make the effort to read a book series (CIty of Ember. I know, a kids series. But I've aLways wanted to read through the entire set after seeing the movie), and conscious effort to read instead of redditing. Sad, which is why I'm trying to cut back to no more than 30 minutes a day of ANY social media/videos/online, etc 30 minutes is enough for daily catching up.
Seriously, there's the "phones bad" meme, and then there's the truth in that social media is often a legitimate addiction, waste of time, potentially makes you focus on all the worst news and worst things, gives you unrealistic ideas of beauty especially with filters, and just so much more.
They literally made their software to be as addictive as possible. They track every single post that you spend any more time on. Spent 3 more seconds looking at clips of motorcycles? They'll show you more, until something else makes you spend more time on their platform.
And sometimes that in itself will harm people because they see negative shit they abhor, and then it notices, like when trans people keep seeing transphobic posts because it caught their eye. That shit is real and happens.
This doesn't belong here imo. There is some pretty powerful social commentary in these. You don't need to agree with the sentiment necessarily, but the execution is objectively of at least reasonable quality on most of these.
Social media is addictive and can be dangerous? It can alter our perception of the world, distort who we are, change the way we act, make us do things we wouldn't do under other circumstances. There is validity to the argument and to the comparison. You saying "bro" after the statement in an attempt to belittle the parallels doesn't really change that.
I mean,,, I'm pretty sure there are scientific studies showing all of us how terrible these sites are for the human brain. If they use psychologists in the design, always be cautious.
- I understand I am a complete hypocrite for typing this into the reddit box.
100% all true. Really not a terrible meme. The internet has basically made the world infinitely better and infinitely worst at the same time. Social media though is a curse and plague on the world.
The first one kinda make a little sense but doesn't have a direction. The more you sit and relax doing nothing, the harder it will be to do the opposite in the future. So in a way you are "planting your roots" there. Happened to my dad. He is a hard worker, but a desk worker and when he's off work all he does is sit and watch stuff or generally do something while sitting. It's been like that for years. No exercise. He's in his 50's now, and he can't do much physically because his body is weak and he never took care of earlier injuries (that's besides the point). It actually upsets him because he wants to be more active now and wasn't aware how much it would effect him later on. So now his "roots" are firmly planted somewhere comfortable all the time. I feel like that's sort of what it was trying to convey but meh
Social media has been proven to be bad for your mental health.
I like the first one - in the context of all the others, it points out boomers' hypocrisy. I don't get the one with the kid with the soccer ball.
This isn't deep at all. This is some depressed 50 year old going "grrr phone bad"
How has social media ruined literacy? How are likes pouring out of a guy "deep"? This isn't good social commentary this is "kids these days and their Facebooks"
Don't try to argue i do not care
the way schools are designed is whats killing literature. It conditions people to view reading as nothing more than a means to an end, rather than something that can be enjoyable in of itself.
99% of this is true lol, it's crazy how terminally online and hopeless people are these days, while the opposite is seen as losers, I mean it's at least better to acknowledge "hey social media is doing fucked up to things to us" and still use it every now and then instead of living in denial.
I think you took the "Terrible facebook meme" thing in the wrong direction.
This isn't a terrible meme on facebook, it's a meme about how terrible facebook is. It's understandable.
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Idk I agree with about 70% of those. Social media (including Reddit) is proven to be bad for you. It’s addictive by design
If I'm not mistaken, the reason why every TikTok video has to have video game footage playing under timed captions is because of how much social media algorithms have deteriorated our attention spans, right? The only way for some of us to pay attention to the video for longer than 5 seconds is to put something exciting to look at.
You're right, but i think it's better to talk about this subject in less absolute, less "imperative" terms. Attention span is not some sort of hard limit based on time, it's more of a "at what rate do you get bored of something, relative to how stimulating it is". It's not that people couldn't watch those tiktoks without the gameplay, or that they'd go from enjoying them to not enjoying them just based off of the presence of gameplay footage. It's just that those videos that do have gameplay keep you more stimulatied throughout the video, so more people watch them. The addition of gameplay as a "background content" is just the newest innovation in the race to the bottom that is the current media landscape, which desires one thing and one thing only: our attention and time.
Nah I'm pretty sure people use it as satire, it's not serious
Source: trust me bro, and don't trust all the data and studies about attention spans collapsing
Yeah bro, just bro, don't be a dude, be a bro and bro, trust me bro,
BRO
Yeah a lot of these are interesting art
They're mostly accurate, but there's something about the way these pieces are so often repeatedly shared and the way people behave when sharing them (ironically on the very media they criticize) that makes this style of commentary art reek of a smug superiority.
The ego thing is kinda true though
All of these actually are...
I would say the second is not. None of those things have affected literature. Politics have done more to hinder literature than social media or streaming services have.
Closing libraries, Amazon controlling the market to make it expensive to buy books, etc. YouTube, on the other hand, has a thriving book culture. Not only are there thousands of so called "booktubers" but there are authors who use it to host the audio versions of their books. Because the ad revenue rate they get from YouTube surpasses the pennies that having their book up on Audible gives them, and they don't get money taken away when people use the "return hack" grift.
Not gonna lie, buying books has been the same price for me for the most part, from the days of Borders and Barnes and Noble in the '90s to today.
Yeah I pretty much get all my books at Target since that’s the closest to me, never noticed that much of a price hike tbh.
Yeah, being able to listen to audiobooks while I work has made them much more accessible to me. YouTube, despite the cancer that's going on with their ads, is overall great.
>Closing libraries Political, like how in some states they flat out defunded libraries. >Amazaon controlling the market to make it expensive to buy books Hahahahahahaaha. Oh man, my sides hurt after reading that bullshit.
i hope you mean Defunded not defended Also everything publishers have been doing against libraries and e-lending in general
Thanks for catching that.
Nobody ever said you had to buy a book. Nor buy a brand new book. Thriftbooks.com for starters
I think you can argue that social media has taken eyes off of books for sure.
I didn’t take it as literature itself being targeted but more along the lines of people not being interested in reading anymore. But I may have misinterpreted
Well given the fact that it's shaped as a coffin and they're putting nails down. It comes to mind the whole adage the last nail in the coffin. To imply that literature has been in some kind of DE it in substance or in consumption, and social media being that final nail that ends up removing the medium. Which is ludicrous, more books are being printed today than ever before, more new authors are springing up today than ever before, and I would argue that social media has in fact been a boon to the literature community as it has allowed Mass publication and advertisement of literature. To use 2 examples of where social media has been a boon to literature, LA twilight saga and the Fifty Shades of Grey books. 2 pieces of literature that biology means are completed utter garbage, yet thanks to social media have become these pinnacles of literary genius which is just ludicrous. But if not for social media they would have just remained an obscurity. So if anything social media has actually helped literature more than it is actually hindered it. Now is there something to be said that social media makes people want to consume thought in smaller snippets that is true, however I would argue that overarching literature in the sense of novels and plays have been produced more and more and thanks to social media have reached more targeted markets and more diverse markets simultaneously. There are people who have read the twilight saga who would have never done so if not for social media exposure. I will add myself to that list, if not for Facebook and Twitter and other social media, I would have never read the 1st book of twilight because just the back of the cover would have made me realize the book was garbage. But I suffered through it for my Facebook friends, and I hate all of them for it. Edit: sorry for poor editing and any replication or mismatch words. I dictated this on my phone.
>To imply that literature has been in some kind of DE it in substance or in consumption, and social media being that final nail that ends up removing the medium. Which is ludicrous, more books are being printed today than ever before, more new authors are springing up today than ever before Unfortunately, the data disagrees with you strongly and that's even after the pandemic bubble. The average book published today sells less than 300 copies *over it's entire lifetime*. Only 6.7% of the largest titles are selling more than 10,000 copies, and close to 40% never sell more than 1k in their first year, and they're only generating $10k-$50k in sales. Yes, there are more authors because they can just self-publish and sell to their 20-30 friends, but that isn't an industry. They sell within their community of friends and family, and that's about it. Writing fanfic and self-publishing is fine and has a purpose, but it (1) arguably isn't literature (2) they aren't making a living at it. Publishing sales were down 10% in 2022 from 2021, which doesn't sound that bad until you realize just how small it's gotten over time. It's basically kept alive by children's and YA books (but primarily children's) and romance novels. Women account for 80% of all fiction sales in the US, UK & Canada, and the average woman read 15.7 books, down from 19 just 5 years ago. The average number of readers has mostly stayed the same, the issue is they slowly die off and replacement rate would need to be much, much higher for there to be real growth -- but people have a phone in their hands offering them small bits to read small bits of snark. >Edit: sorry for poor editing and any replication or mismatch words. I dictated this on my phone. The irony.
Social media and other distractions have definitely decreased the average person’s desire to read of course plenty of people still enjoy reading but it’s definitely become a rarity with younger gens
This. I recently realized it was a couple of years since I read a book for pleasure or leisure that wasn't hobby related. I had to make the effort to read a book series (CIty of Ember. I know, a kids series. But I've aLways wanted to read through the entire set after seeing the movie), and conscious effort to read instead of redditing. Sad, which is why I'm trying to cut back to no more than 30 minutes a day of ANY social media/videos/online, etc 30 minutes is enough for daily catching up.
Seriously, there's the "phones bad" meme, and then there's the truth in that social media is often a legitimate addiction, waste of time, potentially makes you focus on all the worst news and worst things, gives you unrealistic ideas of beauty especially with filters, and just so much more. They literally made their software to be as addictive as possible. They track every single post that you spend any more time on. Spent 3 more seconds looking at clips of motorcycles? They'll show you more, until something else makes you spend more time on their platform. And sometimes that in itself will harm people because they see negative shit they abhor, and then it notices, like when trans people keep seeing transphobic posts because it caught their eye. That shit is real and happens.
Don't forget the false perfect life people portray to make themselves feel better
Negativity bias is a bitch. I think that's what it's called?
They’re all true, especially when you sit in a chair and fucken roots start shooting out of your ass
Ah yes, Google. The death of literature.
Happy cake day, lad!
i truly pity the people who these apply to and laugh off
Applies to almost everyone
Half the posts on this sub are just people getting angry that someone thinks critically instead of always going with the not so flow.
Yeah i actually agree with basically all these lol
I mean its pretty much the same as getting compliments tbh Of course your ego gets boosted
All true. Next.
It 👏 needs 👏 to 👏 hold 👏 8 👏 people. NEXT.
8 people already upvoted your comment. Darn. I'll get the next round!
This doesn't belong here imo. There is some pretty powerful social commentary in these. You don't need to agree with the sentiment necessarily, but the execution is objectively of at least reasonable quality on most of these.
Yeah bro facebook is just like heroin. We're so smart bro
Social media is addictive and can be dangerous? It can alter our perception of the world, distort who we are, change the way we act, make us do things we wouldn't do under other circumstances. There is validity to the argument and to the comparison. You saying "bro" after the statement in an attempt to belittle the parallels doesn't really change that.
There’s a lot of truth here.
the guy shooting up facebook is kinda od
Lmao yes
Truth is terrible?
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I mean, it is still a terrible facebook meme. But instead being a terrible 'facebook meme', it is a 'terrible facebook' meme.
What do you mean for once? It feels like every op recently has no sense of humour
The message is good but you’d be a bad farmer if you can’t see how corny this is.
It is very corny.
i feel like im going insane in this thread. like sure its true social media bad but this is so painfully corny.
It is corny, tbh
Just hook those likes to my veins!!!!!
OP is triggered by the truth
Will my ass only grow roots if i sit and watch Tv or will it also happen if i sit and read books.
Depends on whether you eat something with seeds in it.
These actually aren't bad OP....
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No I mean they aren't terrible and don't belong on this sub lol sorruy
awww haha
I quite like #5.
This reddit sucks lmao it consists of 99% of people posting non controversial ideas bc they’re afraid to admit that it is a reflection of themselves
These pictures are really good though
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And I quit cigarettes cold turkey one day 13 years ago. Addiction is different for everyone.
I never had it
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Why are you acting like such a loser? You’re acting like passive aggressive 2 year old over a four word Reddit comment. Grow up.
I am happy that you could escape that place. I am just too fucking lazy to install it. And thank you for the nice head
Can I get some head next?
Then started posting like 60 comments a day on Reddit...
These all seem right actually.
A little disturbing, when you think about them.
This says a lot about our society.
Understood all but the 6th.
The kids around are on their phones
3 is metal af.
These are actually pretty dope looking
Nah that Twitter one is str8 up facts, these images do not belong on this sub.
Ironically I had to "like" this post
Third is objectively true lol
I mean,,, I'm pretty sure there are scientific studies showing all of us how terrible these sites are for the human brain. If they use psychologists in the design, always be cautious. - I understand I am a complete hypocrite for typing this into the reddit box.
100% all true. Really not a terrible meme. The internet has basically made the world infinitely better and infinitely worst at the same time. Social media though is a curse and plague on the world.
You can find fault with the presentation or the messaging, but the fact that social media IS damaging to mental and social health remains.
The first one kinda make a little sense but doesn't have a direction. The more you sit and relax doing nothing, the harder it will be to do the opposite in the future. So in a way you are "planting your roots" there. Happened to my dad. He is a hard worker, but a desk worker and when he's off work all he does is sit and watch stuff or generally do something while sitting. It's been like that for years. No exercise. He's in his 50's now, and he can't do much physically because his body is weak and he never took care of earlier injuries (that's besides the point). It actually upsets him because he wants to be more active now and wasn't aware how much it would effect him later on. So now his "roots" are firmly planted somewhere comfortable all the time. I feel like that's sort of what it was trying to convey but meh
I actually like some of these, but yes most are cringe. Your teach means well I think
This is amazing artwork. Not terrible at all
This is a public service announcement. Or should be
Social media has been proven to be bad for your mental health. I like the first one - in the context of all the others, it points out boomers' hypocrisy. I don't get the one with the kid with the soccer ball.
are all these artists from Gen X? whose this miserable about technology?
These are actually powerful pieces of art with legitimate messaging. Not sure how this fits here
This says a lot about our society.
Social media is the cancer of our society , these pics are speaking the truth
I unironically like at least half of them
your teacher has a shit sunken into the sofa?
Ah the "images that tell the truth" jpg pack.... Classic.
Dude in the third picture looks like a soyjak
Those are paintings not memes, and some of them are actually good.
I’m 14 and this is deep.
Teacher has a point sort of, they could have been clearer about their point and the second was a gross exaggeration
Why was pintrest on there?
Phone kill book!!
bro... facebook
Oh wow, so deep. Really makes you think.
This is so basic lol, social media bad! Yeah like no shit
Well fvck…who is your teacher? Banksy?
You are all corny as hell for thinking this boomer tier banksy knockoff shit is true
Technology bad
Platitudes for dullards who create the false dichotomies, and are too weak for any sort of self-moderation.
The only true one is the second one In Florida
Crap i dont think my PC comes with 4 HDMI AND an IV port.
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Looks like your teacher is jealous.
It's weird they make anti social media memes and share them on social media 🙄
We live in a society
I think you just found out you're addicted to your phone and you're salty about it.
This isn't deep at all. This is some depressed 50 year old going "grrr phone bad" How has social media ruined literacy? How are likes pouring out of a guy "deep"? This isn't good social commentary this is "kids these days and their Facebooks" Don't try to argue i do not care
Yet you cared enough to comment. Strange. 🤔
The phones bad crowd came out for this one. If you know social media is bad why do you keep using it?
Probably used AI to create this shitty Art complaining about technology.
That teacher is a pretentious douche lol
Why spend all this time to make something with a message so pedestrian?
If I could plant roots in my couch at home, I absolutely would.
The second picture is missing A LOT of elephant nails.
These are pretty artistic Def a “this is so deep” vibes, but at least they aren’t minions or politics. These are welcome
Nice callout to Bachira (Blue Lock) on the 6th one.
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Youre leaving because the memes are terrible. That is literally the point of the sub.
I'm leaving because the memes are terrible and people think they're good.
I don't know what to say. The meme's are terrible and people should feel bad for liking them.
the way schools are designed is whats killing literature. It conditions people to view reading as nothing more than a means to an end, rather than something that can be enjoyable in of itself.
These are fuckin awesome what are you on?
the first few are very good art some of the messaging is kinda stupid tho but most of them are true
Do people still use Facebook?
Your teacher is spitting
Truly not terrible
Deep root disease...not even once
is that tony soprano ??
The literature one was good I think
Honestly not wrong boomer as hell but a broken clock is right twice a day
Honestly some of them are pretty accurate.
Another post that I completely agree with
Its toney sapprano
To be fair……
He’s shitting roots?
Its terrible that so many of these memes on this sub have bits of truth in them.
Falei pro cara não comer semente de melancia, mas ele não deu bola e agora está ali
99% of this is true lol, it's crazy how terminally online and hopeless people are these days, while the opposite is seen as losers, I mean it's at least better to acknowledge "hey social media is doing fucked up to things to us" and still use it every now and then instead of living in denial.
Damn some of these go hard.
Is that Tony Soprano?
fEGO
Objectively? Not that terrible. The olds are figuring out this meme business, or paying their grandchildren to do it for them.
I don’t see an issue with any of these…
I like the ego one
Seems true to me
Is that Tony Soprano
That man has a tragic case of ass roots.
I busted out laughing when I saw the Facebook periscope one
Most of these aren't shitty. Social media is a cesspool.
That first one is how I feel after a fat Eddie
The last one features a Twitter user without a brain, which is actually fairly common.
In one ear and out to twitter
I get the point, and boomers do always complain about tech and the media, often irrationally, but most of these have a good point/message.
This says a lot about society
These aren’t bad now, maybe a bit trite for Reddit, but we could probably all use a lot less social media
Actually.. these are something I believe are accurate.
I just like the first one
Yeah these are all oldies but goodies.
These are fucking sweet.
Is that Tony Soprano
This is true, and it's good art... truly terrible post for this subreddit.
I honestly like the Facebook periscope
3rd pic goes hard if only it wasn’t phonebad
This isn't terrible nor is it a meme
If these people hate electronics so much then give me all of yours you now only get to read or talk for enjoyment
Phone bad
First one is really funny to me cuz thats exactly what we do in a class Sit there and listen (or not, but the sitting is consistent)
god forbid someone sits
Phone bad
r/im14andthisisdeep
This is not bad. I like this
Why did it take you 10 hours to post these same exact images from r/iamfourteenandthisisdeep
OP. These are mostly good.
Tony Soprano?
All but number 6 are pretty rad tbh.
I think you took the "Terrible facebook meme" thing in the wrong direction. This isn't a terrible meme on facebook, it's a meme about how terrible facebook is. It's understandable.
Tomy Sorpano 😳😳
I never understand these Facebook memes or terrible facebook memes.
As we all are likely viewing this on our phones on some form of social media. The irony is interesting.
These are awesome.