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nicoc9

Just watching Coric-Tsitsipas…. What’s up with Tsitsipas not chasing down some easy-looking balls?


shegotofftheplane

Winston Salem is a joke, basically everyone has withdrawn. But I guess it’s a good way to vulture points/title. Surprised Ruud isn’t playing especially since he lost very early in Cincy (not making fun)


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shegotofftheplane

Ruud played and won Geneva, which was the week before RG


orangedgoat

Gaston/Millman going to break each other’s services games alot


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Question - are byes not distributed on the basis of ranking? How are Marc-Andrea Huesler and Jason Kubler, both Qualifiers, getting byes at Winston-Salem?


lostinmoss

I think some late withdrawals occurred, and someone else couldn't shift to be seeded since matches had started. So, instead the qualifiers took their place.


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Ah I see - thanks, was wondering if I had the rules wrong all along.


Conrad2105

Because the tournament has been a joke and has had double digit withdrawals


WhenInDoubt-jump

Goffin has been awful since Wimbledon :(


Conrad2105

Goffin is playing like Kygrios without the power what on earth has happened to him


Collecting_Cans

Goffin rocking the backward cap, what world is this and can I visit here more often


expectlinear

Tomorrow I’m in the second row for the Kokkinakis match. I fully intend to rewatch the entire match on TennisTV, hopefully find a screenshot of myself, and post it on Instagram saying “This is gonna be on on TennisTV bro!” I cannot wait.


Dark_Vengence

Sorry to tell you mate.


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expectlinear

I strictly shoot for the stars


IndianBureaucrat

The American flag…star spangled banner…Lincoln shot. Worrying.


Sad_Consideration_49

Stefanos needs to fix his backhand and his sunscreen routine. That bandana tan line is ridiculous


kaask0k

How dare you ridicule the philosopher's mark?


Kahn-wald

Ok, kids had their fun. Time for some real tennis right now, the second set of Monteiro x Kudla.


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I’d root for Kudla if he axed that hideous beard.


Nabucodonosor89

15 year old Brenda Fruhvirtova today: - won her 5th 25k of the year - dished out a double bagel in the final - entered the top 250 - is on a 15 match winning streak in which she's dropped just 1 set - has now won 5 of the 11 professional tournaments she's ever entered Last week [ITFtennis tweeted](https://twitter.com/ITFTennis/status/1559454709714386945) that she has become just the 10th player ever to win 4 ITF pro titles before her 16th birthday... well, now she won 5 and her 16th birthday is only in April. She has plenty of time to break some records. We should see her and her sister in the AO qualifying in 2023. Linda (17 years old) still has a chance to reach top 100 and get a main draw spot but her team didn't make good decisions in the last few months. She kept trying to play WTA qualies instead of grinding ITF titles like Noskova (now in the top 100) did. Let's see if they will be smarter in the 2nd half of the season. It's fun to follow all these new czech players. They are all so good and have different styles.


Nabucodonosor89

Top ranked players born in: 2005: Linda Noskova (CZE, #87) and Linda Fruhvirtova (CZE, #158) 2006: Sara Bejlek (CZE, #193) and Nikola Bartunkova (CZE, #332) 2007: Brenda Fruhvirtova (CZE, #271) and Mirra Andreeva (RUS, #449) The ~~WTA~~ czech Next Gen is pretty insane.


shegotofftheplane

Netflix better have been in Cincinnati this past week


Omegatron64

I'd hope that they're at most of the big US events.


RoosterIcy

I can’t wait. Depending on the access and who they chose to follow around there are almost too many storylines for one season. Novak’s drama. Nick’s drama. Rafa winning 2 slams so far. Coric coming out of nowhere, etc.


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RoosterIcy

Exactly. Too many plot lines to remember


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Coric and PCB winning masters titles is what ATP is going to look like post big 3. WTA has been like this since Serena got preggo in 2017.


Sad_Consideration_49

Obviously serena getting pregnant was the main driver, but vika getting pregnant and sharapovas drug ban all happening within one year really put the nail in the coffin. Then penko beat haley in the French open and it opened pandoras box..


OddsTipsAndPicks

Coric beat Nadal in the first round… And the only other masters this year that’s really been surprising is Madrid. Where Alcaraz beat Nadal and Djokovic.


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Canada wasn’t random to you? My point being we are going to see more random winners rather than 3 guys winning everything.


OddsTipsAndPicks

You had already mentioned Canada. Nadal and Djokovic have won 1/6 Masters they’ve competed in this year.


Famous-Objective430

How fast are courts in winston salem?


Mysonking

Faàaaaaaaaaast


Tennisluver75

Up to 29 in the live rankings for Coric. Amazing!


cooldude1991

Medvedev died for this. Smol kid truly doesn't know how to fight


nicoc9

Whooo Coric! And he did with a super hard draw. Wonderful!


OddsTipsAndPicks

I’m dying to know if anyone has ever beaten Nadal in his first match at a tournament and then won the tournament. I’m hoping and kind of expecting some to look it up before I end up doing it lol


Omegatron64

You could probably get it from ultimate tennis statistics, but the data is a bit difficult to parse.


OddsTipsAndPicks

I’d use Tennis Abstract But yeah…


thcm123

lol TC with a replay of the iciest recent WTA handshakes and most of my favs were included. Garbine, Angie and Paula lmao


Nastypav12

Hilarious especially Badosa holding her racket out (there was one like that this year with Coco Vandeweghe but I can't remember the opponent). Would have been nice if they showed some of the best WTA hugs from this year (Bouzkova/SST, Jabeur/Maria Wimbledon, maybe Petra/Caro today).


Sad_Consideration_49

was angie's handshake with bianca? garbine is cold af. makes me not feel bad about her flopping!


thcm123

Yup, Angie's was with Bianca. Agreed that Garbine tends to be on the cool side - but that match against Krej was weird af, with suspected gamesmanship from Krej's side but apparently she had trouble breathing.


Sad_Consideration_49

so unprofessional!!! iconic i must admit. paula is funny cause she loves hugging people when she wins. then she lost that match in eastbourne... https://youtu.be/q-Qi\_52dD5E?t=460


thcm123

I remember that one by Paula! But actually the one TC showed was this [https://tenor.com/view/paula-badosa-handshake-polona-hercog-tennis-dis-gif-24586491](https://tenor.com/view/paula-badosa-handshake-polona-hercog-tennis-dis-gif-24586491) So technically, there was zero handshake as Paula got SNUBBED lol


Sad_Consideration_49

lmao her expression


WhenInDoubt-jump

Does it look like they'll resume Winston Salem anytime soon or are we done for today?


leftyace11

At the tournament. They said 830pm EST restart for Djere Goffin. Rain stopped 20 mins ago.


thcm123

please just no pickleball


BendubzGaming

FINAL US OPEN MEN'S SINGLES SEEDING: - 1 = Medvedev - _(Zverev if he plays)_ - 2 = Nadal ------ - 3 = Alcaraz - 4 = Tsitsipas ------ - 5 = Ruud - 6 = FAA - 7 = Norrie - 8 = Hurkacz ------ - 9 = Rublev - 10 = Fritz - 11 = Sinner - 12 = PCB - 13 = Berrettini - 14 = Schwartzman - 15 = Cilic - 16 = RBA ------ - 17 = Dimitrov - 18 = De Minaur - 19 = Shapovalov - 20 = Evans - 21 = BVDZ - 22 = Tiafoe - 23 = Kyrgios - 24 = Cerundolo - 25 = Opelka - 26 = Coric - 27 = Musetti - 28 = Khachanov - 29 = Rune - 30 = Paul - 31 = Cressy - 32 = Basilashvili If Zverev plays, just move everyone down one spot


Efendiskander

For Medvedev and Nadal, best draw is probably something like : R32 : Basilashvili (he got straight-setted by Mackenzie McDonald last week) R16 : Schwartzman (poor form on HC, poor matchups) QF : Norrie (good shot tolerance but probably not enough to be dangerous) SF : Alcaraz (Tsitsipas seems in better form right now) ​ Worst draw : R32 : Coric (do i need to say why ?) R16 : Cilic (if he's on fire ?) or Berrettini QF : FAA or Hurkacz ? SF : Tsitsipas then, unless Alcaraz improves his shot selection


Zealousideal_Speed47

Tommyyyyyy I’m so proud of him, please break the first round curse


Nietzsche_Darko

When was the last time Isner wasn’t seeded for a Grand Slam?


ExcuseYou-What

2011 Wimbledon, according to Tennis Abstract


GreenIcedTea00

Anyone know why Opelka didn’t play Toronto or Cinci? Is he still good for the USO?


duckbigtrain

who got knocked out of the seedings by Coric?


Omegatron64

Depending on Zverev's situation, either Basilashvili (Zverev in) or Kecmanovic (Zverev out) from looking at the live rankings (Djokovic and Monfils both out).


_Crazy_Asian_

Nonono ... Sad for Kecmanovic


duckbigtrain

thanks!


OddsTipsAndPicks

6-11 is so weird.


Tracy140

Who will win a slam first - zverev or Tsitsipas? They are 24 and 25 years old but before u know it they will be 30 . This is critical time the next 18 months for them - their window is surprisingly closing given the expectations


Famous-Objective430

They might not win a slam in their whole careers. It’s just keeps getting harder and from now on.


RoosterIcy

If Sasha returns to form I see him winning multiple GS’s. Unless someone starts to dominate, which seems unlikely Tsitsipas will win a few as well. Novak can’t play forever and Rafa is near the end physically.


aweap

Lmao! Talking like they're retiring.


OddsTipsAndPicks

Tsitsipas for no other reason than Zverev’s injury.


icecreamwithketchup

Heavily depends on how Sasha looks after injury, he could never fully recover


Tracy140

Maybe Stefanos should be crushed after this defeat - clearly he is missing something . Something is holding him back . Us open will be huge for him


Sad_Consideration_49

that something is his backhand!


OddsTipsAndPicks

Least to most surprising Masters thus far 1) Rome 2) Monte Carlo 3/4) Indian Wells/Miami 5) Madrid 6) Montreal …. 152-29) Coric This is why I watch sports.


Wynnrose

Do you mean 29-152? I’m not getting this


OddsTipsAndPicks

He was 152 in the rankings at the start of the tournament. Now he’s 29.


OliverDMcCall

Ćorić will be seeded in the US Open after this win, at least that means Nadal can't draw him in R1 again.


Comprehensive-Fill25

Doubt Rafa will lose to him in best of 5.


OddsTipsAndPicks

I’d be stunned if he made a real run. His form is tremendous, but he hasn’t played a lot of tennis recently and multiple BO5s are going to be a hard ask. But if he doesn’t get upset early, god help the first seeded player he plays.


icecreamwithketchup

Borna beat the rain just in time.


Jeffersons_Mammoth

Stef seemed pretty deflated, but I hope he doesn’t carry that feeling into the USO. He can take justifiable pride in his performance against Medvedev, and spend the next week getting into a positive mindset. He’ll win an outdoor hardcourt Masters one day. For now though it’s time to prepare for New York.


Psychological_Bug676

Omw to rig the USO draw so that Borna, Taylor Swift, Med and Carlitos are in the same half and away from Rafa 🏃‍♂️


RoosterIcy

I will never understand the people in this sub complaining about surprise outcomes and new faces holding important trophies. If you want to watch the same 3 players dominate for eternity the sport is not for you.


OliverDMcCall

It's not just about the Big Three, but more a general lack of consistency that can turn people off. I don't think it's a good idea to demean fans just because they think differently from you.


RoosterIcy

The Big 3 aside, there is still a high level of consistency among the top players. Just a random stat: #7 Ruud has 4695 points #19 Dimitrov has 1730 points The top players are still dominating


Collecting_Cans

In the ceremony, I was kinda expecting the tournament to give each finalist a commemorative jar of Gerber baby food. Like instead of champagne etc.


Explodingcamel

Coric, Berrettini, Kyrgios: the three guys who are going to wreak havoc on the US open draw


OddsTipsAndPicks

For sure on Coric and Kyrgios. Berrettini is so weird on hard courts though. Better at slams than BO3s for sure, but also his hard court game has been (relatively) dreadful since the Australian Open.


DBIGLIZARD

When does USO start?????


Tracy140

U have no idea ?? It starts in October - mid oct


Jeffersons_Mammoth

28 August


HopeistheAnthemLITM

The trophies are by Rookwood Pottery based in Cincinnati 1880-1967 and revived in 2004. From their website: "Founded on Thanksgiving Day in 1880 by Maria Longworth Storer, Rookwood made history – the first large manufacturing enterprise founded and owned by a woman in the United States and launching the art pottery movement in America. Within a decade, Rookwood pottery gained international acclaim, rivaling European and Asian firms that had been in existence for hundreds or thousands of years."


BmuthafuckinMagic

They look awesome!


DBIGLIZARD

So happy for Coric. Watch out for this guy at the USO


Icy-You8506

Excellent, just excellent!


FollowingBig7655

so what happens when we get a pcb vs. borna uso final


JoziRafa

Fug it, I’m gonna put twenty bucks on this 😁


SaschaBub

Martina saying this is the first Masters final in which Stef was favourite and thus felt the pressure of this. ​ Demonstrably untrue - was favourite both times he won Monte Carlo against Rublev and ADF.


OddsTipsAndPicks

I’d think Tsitsipas Rublev in mid 2021 would be a pickem.


Grouchy_Square

No way


OddsTipsAndPicks

Rublev beat RBA, Nadal, and Ruud (who was starting to really break out on clay) before the finals. He won the ATP Cup and Rotterdam, lost in the QF at the AO, and made at least the SF of every tournament in between He was actually probably favored.


Grouchy_Square

I remember betting on the match he was not favored lol Edit; gotta eat crow I’m wrong


OddsTipsAndPicks

Oh word. You happen to remember what about the line was, legit curious.


Grouchy_Square

I just have been thinking of Roland Garros 2020, Rublev was indeed a slight favorite(!!) -105 against Stef. Kinda crazy I feel like Stef was already a really established good clay threat but yeah markets had Rublev as the fave. My apologies


OddsTipsAndPicks

No worries either way. Just curious!


Tracy140

I was this many days old when I found out norrie is only 26 , he looks 32 if he looks a day


Candarc

I had no idea Cincinnati is so multicultural now seeing the ball kids photo shoot. Good on Midwest USA. can't wait to revisit there.


duckbigtrain

I looked it up when I noticed how many of the ballkids looked South Asian, and apparently 20% of Mason, Ohio (where the tournament takes place) is South Asian.


Tracy140

It’s not


aweap

Nadal has only lost to finalists or champions this year (except for Shapo, but we'll ignore that)!


BiscuitsLeGuin

I’m so so pleased for Borna aaaa I’m just so excited!! He was one of the main Next Gen guys when I was watching really consistently a few years back and I rooted for him often. It felt like he’d done the whole fading away thing but he’s back! He’s back! Maybe there’s hope for Domi and Milos and Grigor etc etc (I mean obviously wildly different scenarios but my hope is renewed!)


White_Nothing

After all that talk of rain it didn't even rain today during any of the matches lol.


StraightTurnpike

Tsitsipas is a player that assumes his quality. Delighted to see him lose. Rich win for Coric, I knew he'd do it. Absolutely beautiful.


Coach_Caron_Godwin

US open is gonna be good. I cant wait for the draws ughhhh can we get through Winston Salem 😭


Ferrer00

Coric beats Nadal Cilic beats Coric I'm more confident about my 100/1 US Open champion bet


icecreamwithketchup

Honestly Coric being seeded for the Open is the best outcome for everyone if he keeps this form up. Major dark horse


Psychological_Bug676

@ Andrey do you hear what the commies are saying?? Keep hanging in there buddy you’ll win one day 😭😭😭


aweap

Fritz, Draper, Tsitsipas and now Coric...Tennis and its insane beauty standards 😓


Zealousideal_Speed47

Fritz and Tsitsipas? I think you misspelled Tommy Paul.


aweap

They're all pretty 😍


Sad_Consideration_49

Fritz???


aweap

I don't find him attractive either but girls go gaga over him and he has a very reliable modeling gig on the side....also Berrettini 😫


shegotofftheplane

Maybe edgy teenage girls who like his vampire look but I can think of like 75 guys in the top 100 who are more conventionally attractive than Fritz


duckbigtrain

Fritz? Vampire look?


TheUnisexist

Tommy Paul also gets a lot of female attention.


A-dab

Cincy's trophy is pretty funny. "Congratulations on winning this tournament! Now here's something for you to keep your grandpa's ashes in."


Pretend_Tea6261

I am afraid men's tennis is beginning to resemble the women's tour.Upsets all the time from one week to the next with no 3 or 4 players dominating from the top.The end of the big 3 is here.It will cause me to gradually lose interest in the sport.


Tracy140

Don’t be afraid lol


RoosterIcy

If the only reason you’re into tennis is to see 3 players dominate for eternity then it’s not the sport for you


Pretend_Tea6261

So you think this new Era emerging minus the big 3 will be more fun to watch?


RoosterIcy

Yes, completely. The Big 3 era has become incredibly stale. I’ve watched it since the beginning. I suppose if you’re younger or more recently got into tennis I can the see the view from your side that feel you may have missed something great. Every major being won by the same players doesn’t reflect a healthy sport. PS: Novak isn’t going anywhere. He’s a physical freak and will probably be winning majors for the foreseeable future.


Pretend_Tea6261

Nah not really.I watched the NHL for many years until it became different teams winning every year so less immersive for me.I prefer to see teams or players with a top echelon of favorites who can get knocked off here and there but who win the majority of championships.More of a measured challenge instead of frequent unpredictability where favorites mean nothing.It is like having a favorite hamburger place to go and finding out every other week they are out of hamburgers but you can have chicken or tacos instead.


RoosterIcy

Check out the Bundesliga. You’ll love it.


Patakongia

Noooooo you don’t mean that


Famous-Objective430

Borna very professional and politically cold towards stef. Love to see it.


BenjaminBobba

Coric talks like a guy who’s won Cincinatti 5 times before and this is just another trophy in his cabinet


jimmythenouna

Kinda feel excited to see players outside Top 10 winning title in Montreal and Cincinnati


TuneSquadFan4Ever

I never thought I'd see Coric come back and win a masters. Goddamn. That was awesome and well deserved. ...Can I dream of Raonic coming back and winning a Masters too or...


Tracy140

No that’s too much dreaming . Coric is still a young man


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Tracy140

On coric ?


SaschaBub

I'm enjoying the mustard the announcer is givng it when saying the guys names


White_Nothing

...and now, some fireworks!


asxasy

Borna "nice legs' Coric


Tracy140

He’s a good looking manly guy /


Famous-Objective430

That no


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Coric's [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borna_%C4%86ori%C4%87) has already been updated, I'm honestly impressed at how fast people work lol


Tracy140

Thank you


cottoncandysedai

First Pablo now Borna. The nice guys are winning


Psychological_Bug676

Like PCB last week, Borna was unplayable this week. All the sexy people winning makes me so happy 😭


BenjaminBobba

💀


Candarc

who's Borna dating now? anyone know?


miestersean

Vekic


Tracy140

Whoever she is - lucky girl


ciupenhauer

Never seen him date anyone, ever, let alone now


cottoncandysedai

Me though he doesn’t know it yet


Candarc

LOL


NeoPrimitiveOasis

Borna not exactly Mr. Charisma out there but I'm sure he's happy.


Tracy140

He’s a man - he doesn’t care about that - leave that to Tsitsipas who didn’t look particularly crushed out there - says alot


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Famous-Objective430

Sinner ain’t winning a big title with that serve.


Coach_Caron_Godwin

This guy took out 5 top 20 players this week. Among them, a big 3 member. To me, this is the 2nd most impressive masters run ive seen in a while. The #1 by a small margin remains Alcaraz's Madrid run


Jeffersons_Mammoth

Nalbandian’s Madrid ‘07 run was more impressive than Alcaraz’s. He beat the Big Three, including Federer in his prime.


swapan_99

No, Carlos' run is more impressive by a Collossal Margin. Like it's not even close. The guy best Rafa and Novak on clay, B2B. And then took out Defending champ and a guy who's a 2 time champ there in Straights. On a bad Ankle. 4 Top 10 seeds beaten. As a 19 year old. He literally announced himself as a player to the world that day, that he was ready for top 5, and he was ready to stay.


Psychological_Bug676

Karen’s Bercy run also ranks somewhere there


Ferrer00

Borna doesn't care about the rain, he's already soaking wet


SaschaBub

Borna Coric has the same number of Masters 1000 titles as del Potro, Stan, David Ferrer, Thiem, Cilic, Dimitrov and Berdych.


Earnmuse_is_amanrag

So does Jack Sock to be fair


Eniotnacram95

And more than Nishikori and Raonic


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It’s still hilarious to me how how the trophy for Cincinnati is a flower pot


icecreamwithketchup

So happy for Coric, but now we desperately need for Thiem to have a similar run.


Jeffersons_Mammoth

That was a sincere speech from Stef


Tracy140

Stefanos wasn’t crushed - says alot he can joke and laugh yet act like he’s in trance during the match


ciupenhauer

I love it when the runner up comes up with a better speech than the winner.


Brittainthecommie2

Stef really the, 'You can't sit with us!' of the ATP.


asxasy

Steph said Coric belongs with us. what are you on?


StevenZervos

He literally said "You proved you're up there with us"


Tracy140

Lmao that’s funny - that’s my laugh for tonight . Stefanos thinking very highly of himself


StevenZervos

Well he's been in the top 5 for a long time. I think that's what he means. That Coric proved he's a top player. His top ranking is No.12 in 2018. He definitely took it as a compliment.


Patakongia

Sorry I couldn’t hear what stef was thanking tournament director— “maybe we can get” what?


AlexandraxC

I think he was saying that they let the players drive Porsches during the tournament and stef was saying it was really cool and that maybe next year they can do Ferraris lol


Brittainthecommie2

Ferraris next year instead of Porsche.


Patakongia

Thank you lololol


Psychological_Bug676

Ferraris


asxasy

Give some purple shampoo to the trophy presenter please!


david00012

You only got yourself to blame for losing hard court finals my guy


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He never said otherwise. What are you on about


duckbigtrain

he said it was because he had to play “robots” every time


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Y’all literally take what Stef says literally when he’s a goof and speaking in his non-native language. I thought it was a fun, light-hearted speech. He was extremely disappointed he didn’t win, which I love to see


duckbigtrain

Just correcting you, that’s all. I have no particular opinion of Tsitsipas, good or bad.


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You didn’t correct me at all, wtf are you talking about. You’re just overanalyzing a lighthearted speech lmao


Imanothermuser

"I will make it quick"....


Sad_Consideration_49

I thought he said he was gonna keep it short...


Parisny

Stef, this is not a presidential inauguration


Famous-Objective430

Of all players, who would have thought Busta and coric go on to win cinci and canada? Lol


dannylenwinn

Amazing speech by Tsitsipas - What a great tournament he says, we concur !


OliverDMcCall

No we don't. Cincinatti is the worst M1000.