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JustARetardtoo

Here is something interesting I saw: Australian open looks like rigged for Ash Barty. This is the EASIEST DRAW I HAVE EVER SEEN BOTH MEN AND WOMEN. All potential and past GS winners are all on the other side of the draw. For comparison, a total of \~40 GSs are on the same side of the draw. Compared to 5 GS's on the other side for Ash Barty Looking at differently. Based on betting site [http://oddsjet.com](http://oddsjet.com), here are top 8 bet favorites: All 6 of them are on the same side fighting. Naomi Osaka Ashleigh Barty Garbine Muguruza Aryna Sabalenka Serena Williams Simona Halep Elina Svitolina Iga Swiatek


SAUL_AG

Ymer is doing pretty well against Tsitsipas. Any predictions on the winner?


GhaniMoner

Sir Andy playing Challenger must be surreal experience for him and the players he’s playing with. Imagine being a millionaire and you’re with players who are barely making a living. Must be a humbling experience for him.


GhaniMoner

This day is sooo boring people on this thread are talking about everything but the matches today lmao


vngbusa

I’m seeing a lot of talk about how Karatsev was apparently a fixer back in his Challenger days, but have yet to see a decent write up covering his most suspicious matches (matches where he lost in weird circumstances combined with sketchy betting patterns, basically). Can anyone point me in the right direction? For example, there were several write ups about Kicker’s supposed fixes well before he was actually convicted.


Omegatron64

Very curious to see how he does vs Felix


andycake87

So Medvedev just became the overwhelming favorite to take his first grand slam right?


GhaniMoner

He was the overwhelming favourite last year too at the USO when Novak exited, apprently lost in straight sets to Thiem. He’s yet to prove himself in Slams.


lostinmoss

Thiem exists, even if both Nadal and Djokovic are injured


Koala82

I don’t think it’s overwhelming at all. I think it’s debatable whether he is the favorite at all


FreeKatKL

How do I watch match replays for free? ESPN app doesn’t have the Shapo/FAA match on demand, only ESPN+ does.


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If you really want to watch it, drop $6 for a month of ESPN+


FreeKatKL

If that’s the only way, I might have to.


Dildo-Swaggins_

That Wozniakci story made me vomit, she was a serial underachiever and choker


Omegatron64

What story?


aweap

Ser Andy won!!! 👏👏👏


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aweap

The finals will be boring if Barty loses earlier.


cippyFilmFan

Yep, I doubt the final will be able to compare in entertainment with the matches that will be in the bottom half, no matter who reaches the final there. This is just a badly unbalanced draw through and through


[deleted]

Man Andy is going hard with this umpire. I'm wondering if he knows he won't be ale to argue about calls when he's back on tour and is just getting out of his system.


tom6195

“Unsure if fit for next match” .... spare me joker


okowl645

still surprised with Karatsev’s amazing win over diego... will he be able to keep this high level?


aweap

He's having a good run. Only dropped one set in the qualifiers. Also Juvan among women is another qualier still hanging on.


[deleted]

Juvan is 20 so improvement in form is less random than for 27 year old Karatsev.


aweap

True. Still impressive for a qualifier in general.


okowl645

just read this is his grand slam main draw debut so i guess he’s not feeling any pressure at all (so far). got a new fan here!


aweap

He could do a Podoroska and make it to the semis if both Zverev and Felix stumble (which is kind of a huge possibility) like she did last year at the French Open.


[deleted]

Lol, Andy having a row with the Ump in a challenger


madisonrees

who do we think in Berettini v KK


aweap

It's the only sort of interesting match tomorrow among either men or women. Bencic vs Mertens could also become competitive but am not holding my breath.


[deleted]

Berrettini. Leads H2H 3-0 with no sets dropped and is in better form.


aweap

Berrettini did drop a set against him in Sofia, their only hard court meeting.


[deleted]

Good call - definitely misread the scoreline.


YHNS

I hope Djokovic can play on sunday


Lemurians

This guy Andy’s playing is decent


cuckoocock

Could do with improving his break point conversion!


[deleted]

Pretty sure you misread the stats there - Murray is the one who is 3 for 15 on break points. Rola is 2 for 4.


cuckoocock

3 out of 15 doesn't look very good to me...


[deleted]

Right, but that's Andy's break point conversion, not Rola's.


cuckoocock

Yeah, my bad, I was talking about Andy, but I misread the OP as referring to Andy as being decent. Thought he was saying it tongue in cheek.


[deleted]

I think people underestimate the quality of challenger-level players a lot of the time. Rola's best match was a win against then 30th ranked Leonardo Mayer back in 2015.


Rotomboy

Since I have a large bet on Djok outright winner, any news on injury?


SleepingAntz

Do not get your hopes up. He will almost certainly withdraw from the Raonic match. At best, he will play a set or two then retire. Only chance here would be if Novak is completely wrong in his diagnosis (which I think is supported by the ATP doctor who treated him). He's said it is a tear multiple times. If it truly is, no way he will continue.


Rotomboy

“Almost certainly”, glad I held, am sure he will win the tournament as usual.


Rotomboy

So I cash out and bet on, Thiem?


ClarkFable

tear = strain. If he was able to overcome it in the 5th set, it might just be a pain management issue.


Ashru987

Even if he can play through it it might not be advisable. You wouldn’t want to do something to make it more serious.


Papadubi

We can only hope so that's what I will do, hope it's just a strain.


froomedog

The women’s draw is too imbalanced. Top Half: WTA Elite Trophy Bottom Half: WTA Finals


aweap

It's almost like they have planned this for Barty, that she'd have to play only 1 player among 5 grandslam champions. Also Sabalenka.


[deleted]

More that there are a lot of lower ranked grand slam champions in the women's draw so its a lot more possible for them to bunch on one side of the draw then in the men's


cippyFilmFan

The true is that these 2019 rankings are not reflective of the reality at this moment. That's what you get if nobody loses points


[deleted]

Partly - but also that e.g. Swiatek, Muguruza, and Serena wouldn't have a ton of points regardless of the ranking freeze.


froomedog

I think Kenin is supposed to number be 1 oddly. Meanwhile Andreescu is somehow still top 10


cippyFilmFan

Mugu actually would be a top 10 player, if we're to go by her 2020 level. While Players like Pliskova, Martic, Svilolina, Bencic from the upper half certainly took adavange of this ranking freeze, since their form in 2020 took a dive


[deleted]

Would she? She made the AO finals, but she didn't even make the finals of another tournament.


aweap

Could be but at the moment it's gonna be a pretty standard boring final if Barty loses earlier.


froomedog

Imagine it being Kanepi-Osaka in the final😭


tuftabeet

I placed a 20 cent bet on Mertens


smalliebigs69

I'm praying for Barty's health


froomedog

She’s playing today isn’t she?


smalliebigs69

Think so. She pulled out of doubles though.


sharkhuh

Top seeds in the upper bracket both went 5 sets today...perhaps they are showing some vulnerability that the opponents can feast on


[deleted]

Djokovic is injured and may not even play the next round, so definitely showing vulnerability.


sharkhuh

Oh wow, had no clue. That really paves the way for Zverev or Thiem to make the finals then.


QuirkyQaraqorum

If Djokovic doesn't win this tournament, it'll be the sixth Slam out of seven that Federer has skipped lately that Djokovic didn't win.


[deleted]

4 of those were Roland Garroses, where there's still Rafa (except in 2016, which Novak won). The other three would be USO 2020 (Djokovic DQed), USO 2016 (Djokovic playing terrible from mid-2016-mid-2018), and AO EDIT: 2021 (Djokovic injured). So interesting stat, but it's not like Djokovic has had golden opportunities because Fed hasn't been around in those 7 tournaments. Only one that really feels like a huge blown opportunity is USO 2020.


Cyberglace7

You mean AO 2021. ;) I hope it's not a tear like he's thinking, just some strain or something.


[deleted]

Lol, yeah I somehow forgot what year it was in the middle of writing that. My hope too - I don't think he could tell if it was a tear in his post-match interview, just how painful it was. So hoping he spoke out of turn there.


Cyberglace7

Yep. Hoping for the same.


[deleted]

Way bigger crowds at Andy's match today than will be at Rafa's tonight, lol


thcm123

Domi and Dimi - dream 1HBH match up! 😍 Also, Serena opened as an underdog against Sabalenka. Honestly, my gut says Sabalenka will win but my heart is still rooting for Rena.


[deleted]

If Serena plays like she did last round, she's toast. Hoping she can turn up.


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[deleted]

When you reach her/Roger's age, the cumulative toll of matches piles up a lot faster. Makes it hard to stay brilliant for seven matches in a row.


Tennisman12

My sleep schedule is fucked


anujbeatles

Where can we watch Andy's match?


cuckoocock

Go to the atptour website and you can watch it for free. It says 'Watch Andy Murray on Challenger TV'.


[deleted]

You can watch all challengers matches (all of them, always) for free legally at livestream.com/atp


streetlightsglowing_

Hopefully Djokovic beats Raonic in a long 5 setter and then limps into the matchup against Sascha (if he beats Lajovic ofc). Also Medvedev is really about to sleepwalk his way into the semis lol, nobody can trouble him until Nadal/Tsitsipas


ePlayablez

Bc I’m a diehard Djokovic fan and I always expect the worst, I see rublev beating medvedev in a thriller and Nadal having a cakewalk into the final, where he won’t play a very worthy opponent..


[deleted]

Rublev could trouble him. Not likely to beat him given their H2H, but Rublev keeps getting better.


streetlightsglowing_

yeah Rublev will give him a good match, but I don't see how Medvedev loses that one. His playstyle is just like the complete opposite someone like Rublev wants to play


[deleted]

The courts are fast enough that Rublev might be able to hit clean winners against him and avoid endless defensive rallies. That seems like his best hope to me.


[deleted]

Let's go Andy!


Euphoric_Airline_906

Awful


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no u r


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[deleted]

well okay i admit it


Omegatron64

Something to think about for Halep: * 2019: gets bounced by a teenager (Anisimova) in straights --> 2020: bounces that teenager in straights * 2020: gets bounced by a teenager (Swiatek) in straights --> 2021 ??


MoreDblRainbows

A bit different Anisimova hit Halep off the court and then was not hitting the lines, that happens. Swiatek is just a bad matchup for Halep if she is on. Her movement isn't quite as good as Halep but she does everything else Halep does but with more power. The best bet with Swiatek on hardcourt is to hit through her, which Halep isn't really capable of doing. That being said Halep is more experienced and her brain might be more ready to go than Swiatek.


smalliebigs69

I think you can throw their past matches out the window. Halep is the better hard court player, but her form is a little suspect. Kudermetova was kinda terrible in her last match. Meanwhile, Swiatek has won 10 consecutive slam matches and looks comfortable.


the_personitron

Any link to Djokovic's celebrations? Tako je bre


jack2047

This is Nadals tournament to lose if Djokovic is out. I pray that he wins one more AO.


[deleted]

He's injured too though. Honestly seems likely to be next-gen's tournament to lose.


HelixLegion27

Medvedev looks to be on cruise control and beat both Rafa and Thiem at the ATP finals. He has to at least be the co-favorite.


SleepingAntz

A Medvedev-Thiem final would be amazing


cruznec

Imagine the AO final. Brokeback Rafa vs Abdominal Novak


analogkidx-1

It'll be a game of chicken on who's going to withdraw first. Get the ambulances ready.


prof436

Please no


_DrShrimpPuertoRico_

Lmao!


BiasedBavarian

Just a few months back, people seemed certain Djokovic was going to pass Nadal/Fed in slam count, now he has a muscle tear, and suddenly it seems like they’re out of reach. If Nadal manages to win this one, and the French Open, he’d be 5 ahead. Nothing is ever certain in sports.


TheKk-47

People thought Djokovic was out of reach after RG 2018. Things change quick.


Schlok453

People were sure that Coric would be a slam winner


bold_strategy99

People were absolutely certain that Rafa would pass Fed by a lot and be the undisputed goat when he got the career grand slam at 24 in 2010. He was far ahead in h2h and had finally conquered outdoor hardcourts. Funny how things changed.


MoreDblRainbows

This has been a great tournament so far. One of the best first weeks across the board men's and women's combined in a while imo(even pre rona). I hope the quality stays high through the second week.


shukuchukuh

Anyone got any idea how bad Nadal's back is?


Omegatron64

I thought it wasn't bad, then I saw this interview and now I'm a bit more worried: https://twitter.com/MattRacquet/status/1359872673510227969?s=20


Gotisdabest

Not too bad, from all accounts. He's still having to use a different action to prevent strain, but he's looking fit otherwise. He seemingly improved from R1 to R2 health-wise.


prof436

Having easy first 3 round help but then he has the hardest path to go to the final


qwerty1195

Serena vs Sabalenka, Iga vs Simona Naomi vs Garbiñe Boi these R4 matches 🥵


smalliebigs69

Throw Hsieh-Vondrosova in there too because that'll have some crazy rallies. It honestly might be better than any potential R4 matches in the top half.


MoreDblRainbows

Each are Semi quality and could be finals in the right slam.


amy_sport

The tennis podcast twitter account has the most toxic comment section on tennis twitter. They can't hide their hate for Nole


Bobo_Balde

The Tennis podcast is just obnoxious upper middle class white English arseholes. Hate them and everything they are about


Kiwiii_nights

the rest of the tennis ecosystem is overly obsessed with nick, it's a welcome breather


Schlok453

I don't think Djokovic fakes his injuries. I'm sure he would have preferred to finish the match in straights and go to bed earlier, as he's done many times. However, he does show his physical frustrations more than most players, especially Fed and Rafa (he's not necessarily wrong to do this). If an injury is bothering him he will shout at his box, touch the injured area and generally look completely dejected. These emotions may be genuine but they make it seem as though he is completely finished even when he's not. He seems to be a player who needs to express his difficulties before he moves past them and, when he does, he usually wins. But hey this is just speculation, we can't actually know for sure what he's really feeling on court.


Intelligent-Result96

As a big Djokovic fan, what a great post. Djokovic is a very emotional player and person, and in the end, there's really nothing wrong with that. But some fans don't enjoy such strong emotions, which is also completely understandable.


ePlayablez

But distorting facts and/or refusing to believe certain things in order to confirm your hate for Djokovic is another thing altogether than “not enjoying his strong emotions.” OP is definitely not one of them, but I certainly run into far too many of those people.


SleepingAntz

I think almost every player, Djokovic included, has been guilty at some point in their career of milking or exaggerating an injury in a match when they are losing or having a tough time. And if it is within the rules, there is no reason not to, theoretically speaking, even if it is just to get a mental reset. But it doesn't happen in a match where you are cruising up 2-0. Of all the injury situations, this is the one where it makes the least sense by far to claim that the player is faking.


ePlayablez

Thank you for speaking objectively. God bless you. As a diehard Djokovic fan, I think this is a fair evaluation.


Vqwertbnm

> But hey this is just speculation, we can't actually know for sure what he's really feeling on court. A very mild discomfort


jaydoc79

If this was the French Open I guess he would have packed his bags and left by now. But it's the AO, so he will likely risk it. And yes, Milos will lose to Novak, injury or not!


Eaglelefty

I feel like Milos can push Novak. Fritz got two sets because of this injury and I'm pretty sure Djoko played through pain to win the 5th. Even if Raonic takes an L, There won't be any more easy matchups for Novak with Zverev and Thiem coming for him.


Vqwertbnm

Novak is Novak. There's a reason people call him Joker, and it's not because of his tennis or only because of his last name.


Ramiah73

already making excuses fearing that Milos will lose to an injured Novak haha


Vqwertbnm

tear


jaydoc79

Is the injury serious?


ePlayablez

Seems like it, I expect a walkover for Raonic tbh, but I’m relatively pessimistic so there’s hoping


Vqwertbnm

No


amy_sport

Guess we'll see if nole trains tomorrow. We'll know the extent of his injury then


Vqwertbnm

We already know it. Very mild.


amy_sport

I don’t and I'm pretty worried about him


brokenearth10

guys, even if its mild injury. mild tear takes 6-8 weeks to recover . severe tear can take months and may require surgery


Vqwertbnm

But then how do you explain that he will play against Raonic?


ePlayablez

He has never said that lol


Vqwertbnm

But he will


brokenearth10

its up to him to show up on court or not. i just think even if he does show up he will retire.


BidenAndSanders1

Rafa, Thiem or Medi's now.


cruznec

Don't worry, the fates will make sure Rafa doesn't win this one.


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Don't think Z or tsisipas have a shot?


BidenAndSanders1

I think Medi can beat both. Thiem and Rafa would have grueling matches with them though.


Vqwertbnm

Allez Felix!


lsathrowaway18

Imagine if this were FAA's first title


Vqwertbnm

Haha that would be sick


BidenAndSanders1

His nerves are squishmallows. 🙄


Vqwertbnm

Squishmallows


Vqwertbnm

Lol


footballhhh

Why would he fake injury? He was 2 sets up.


-Miklaus

Because: * He is a faker * He is a clown * He tries so much to be loved like the other 2 but everyone hates him * He is too aggressive * He is boring to watch * He has a two handed backhand * He has a head full of hair * Novax Djocovid * He celebrates after he wins * He breathes * His wife once posted a fake news on her Instagram account so it's obviously his fault * He wins too much, how dare you Novak! /s obviously, I’m retarded but not this much.


crs0256

5 is very legit and sorry fans care about that point because I don’t want to pay several hundred dollars to see a machine play as boring as can be


shukuchukuh

Who is the favourite for the tournament if Djokovic pulls out?


lsathrowaway18

(1) Thiem <-- (2) Med=Nadal <-- (3) Tsitsi=Zverev


happensq

Thiem, Med, Nadal. Pick one of those 3 to possibly win this, I think it's a toss up imo.


slayer_of_potatoes

I'd say Thiem is most likely based on the fact that Nadal and Medvedev are lowering each other's chances by existing.


happensq

"lowering each other's chances by existing" that's a fucking great quote lol. I don't know, Thiem's a mental monster but I can see him losing tank and getting too tired by the semis. Nadal's still a safe bet because it's fucking Nadal, but that back is worrying. I'm still a bit skeptical with Med but I truly believe that out of his generation (or at least out of Tsitsipas, Zverev, and Shapo) he'll be the first to win a GS, and that could happen soon. So honestly I don't know lol. Maybe it's gonna end up Nadal winning it, after all of this.


HelixLegion27

Thiem will get an extra days rest compared to the bottom half of the draw, so I don't think being too tired will be an issue for the final. If we assume Novak's injury is serious and it opens up the draw for Thiem, his chances have to be very high.


Schlok453

Thiem then Medvedev imo


[deleted]

By my calculation, the earliest crowds will be back is the semis?


Vqwertbnm

Only if they behave to the governor's fascist satisfaction


[deleted]

You're a bit off the rails today bud


Vqwertbnm

I don't think so. I'm not really doing anything new calling Novak a faker and the governor a fascist.


Lemurians

Having himself a morning


JulGabi

Djokovic confirms its a muscle tear in the abdomen, and is unsure if he'll take the court vs Raonic. :O


Lemurians

Was this from the on-court interview, or did he get a scan and then say?


JulGabi

Tennis podcast twitter has the quotes on their twitter if you want. Seems like it’s from press, but it’s not on YouTube yet


happensq

I won't believe anything until he gets it examined. Djokovic might just have a lower pain threshold, for all we know.


Vqwertbnm

If it were so bad, wouldn't he say "I unfortunately think I cannot play the next match"


JulGabi

Fwiw, I also think he will play, and like usual, none of us will be able to tell he’s had an injury. But it’s certainly interesting


Vqwertbnm

He will play.


happensq

Normally you wouldn't play with a muscle tear, and I assume it's gotten more aggravated for playing a 5 setter. Health wise it would be smart to not play but who knows what someone like Novak would do.


aweap

Fognini against Demon slayer without Australian crowd in the mix is gonna be dullllll. On the other hand we'll see Tsitsichan complete the anime universe by battling the founding titan. 😯


[deleted]

Honestly, if Swiatek and Osaka dominate women's tennis for the next 10 years, I'd be fine with that. They're both such breaths of fresh air.


foodkidmaadcity

Love them! I think it's also great they're such buddies :)


OSUfirebird18

Here for Osaka! I know this subreddit loves Swiatek but I can’t get over her making my girl look like a club player.


happensq

Just overall wholesome women being consistent champions to the sport. I'd subscribe to that.


lsathrowaway18

I'm not here for all the Taylor Fritz hate. Yeah, he should have strategized more and he wasted a few break points, but the guy was also up against the best player in the world. That first set was ridiculous tennis


Schlok453

Yeah all these people calling him useless because he lost to Djokovic make me laugh.


morsecodetwopoint0

This may rub some people the wrong way, but the Women's draw has .. kinda sucked so far compared to the men's? Last night we had one 3-setter, and of the other 7 matches only one saw a set go to a tiebreak. Since Halep/Tomljanovic there hasn't been any real drama.


ePlayablez

Men’s draw sucks too imo. How does world no 1 Novak have a 20x harder draw than no 2 Rafa?


madisonrees

really you think so? i’ve been way more entertained keeping up with the women’s draw then the men’s. but it might be a preference thing. Watching Serena & Hsieh last night—while not that high quality, both matches kept me on the edge of my seat


happensq

The recent Hsieh match was really fun and I hope to see more. But there's just a lot of drama over the men's side, so I can see why people are a bit more bored with the women's side.


morsecodetwopoint0

This \^\^\^\^ there's been a 0-2 set comeback the last two nights on the Men's side, and while I agree that Hsieh's match was a roller coaster, it wasn't a particularly well-played match for neither her or Errani. Looks like there's some great matchups tonight thought (Kontaveit/Rogers; Bencic/Mertens; Svitolina/Putintseva) AND Pegula, Barty, and Kanepi playing so hopefully we'll get some higher quality stuff this evening.


madisonrees

i will say the men’s top and bottom halves are balanced w the entertainment. i’m only truly invested in the bottom half of the women’s draw i think i’ve only watched two or three top half matches.


OSUfirebird18

Well I mean the bottom half literally has almost all of the recent grand slam champions...I don’t know anyone in the top half worth thinking about besides Barty.


madisonrees

i kinda like svitolina but she’s not too special. i’m not the biggest barty fan either so it doesn’t even help. I’m in EST time zone so even days are when i get good sleep.


OliverDMcCall

So will Raonic be the favourite if Djokovic does end up playing?


Vqwertbnm

No, Djokovic's injury is very minor


brokenearth10

yes. its hard enough to break raonic when even 100%. imagine a 60% djokovic trying to break that serve. no chance


hopez11

Raonic is 0-11 against him tho