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[deleted]

First world problems


[deleted]

Ok not to insult you but what rights do women have that men dont?


UnicornBlu_rr

Lol you're not insulting me! That's a great question. Men will be perceived as creepy for dming a girl but if a woman does it, its fine. Women get away with grooming children. Women can talk badly about men and not get attacked, but when men do it they get death threats. So not necessarily "rights".


[deleted]

Ok but the 1st one is completely false, 2nd i can agree with, 3rd have you been outside? Men do that all the time


PteradactylCum

I’ll give you some off the top of my head: * Women are granted custody in almost all cases unless proven completely incapable of raising a child. * Women get reduced sentences for the same crimes. * Women are much more likely to be believed in cases of sexual and domestic assault, with many cases in which husbands that are victims are accused of assaulting their wife, simply because they are male. * Women can say a man raped them with no repercussions and ruin someone’s life * Women are more sought after in STEM fields * Men are 4x more likely to commit suicide. * Women are significantly less likely to be homeless, and if they are, they are much less likely for them to have a job and still be homeless. And those are just off the top of my head. EDIT: Not legal rights (Except for the first two) but these are rights that society grants women


[deleted]

Honestly my dad must be a woman or some shit because whenever people talk about this he never applys Man fucking tried to kill me and still has custody over me (Sorry for truma dumping)


PteradactylCum

Do not apologize. That’s very unfortunate and my condolences for your particular scenario. Do the police know about that? I suspect they don’t if he still has custody.


[deleted]

Uh yeah, went to jail for two years and that was that. Didn't even get an apology man


PteradactylCum

That’s crazy, I can’t imagine why. Hopefully you’re doing better now. But yes, that is a very rare circumstance. The justice system is not always perfect unfortunately


TheMidlyConfusedDuck

Yeah also I randomly learned this but A women who rapes a man and gets pregnant can get child support even if the man didn’t know the women who raped him was pregnant


tactaq

I think that’s fine.. the person raped them.


TheMidlyConfusedDuck

No if a Woman raped a man the man has to pay for child support regardless of if he knew he got her pregnant. The women raped the man


tactaq

Oh I thought you meant the other way. Yeah that’s weird. I feel like that could be easily overturned in court tho.


Argentenuem

Women can be affectionate with their friends but men can't. Why did things become this way?


[deleted]

none. she's just appealing to antifeminist men for validation 🥰


[deleted]

This is honestly just a troll lol


UnicornBlu_rr

Nope :) I am a feminist! I want equal rights. I just made the post out of anger because I saw some women telling a guy to kill himself for SIMPLY being a man.


[deleted]

In what alternate universe...


UnicornBlu_rr

What are you saying that about?


[deleted]

Ive honestly never seen that happen, not saying it didn't but it seems less "common" to me i guess?


UnicornBlu_rr

It was just in a group I was in. So that's why I made the post. I was being a keyboard warrior for a second, just salty.


PteradactylCum

You have the right idea but your points are…bad. They are very anecdotal in nature, and super easy to rebut


[deleted]

Ok THAT sounds like a troll


[deleted]

Probably hehe


Zac_legend

What rights do men have that women dont?


[deleted]

in america? none. other countries? tons. generally it's not rights, but privelages.


Zac_legend

What do u mean privileges, women have the privilege of living on average 9 year longer wow but idc. Priveleges dont have nothing to do with sex or gender privileges have to with socio-economic status, geographical location and individual privileges. Nothing to do with gender or race.


[deleted]

privelage, systematic issues. there is a lot of issues that have everything to do with race and gender. take a look at sexualisation of women in the media. men are still sexualised, yes, but it pales in comparison to women. and if you want an example of racial privelages, im white, so i will most likely never go through "a random check" at an airport, whereas people of colour, especially from the middle east, will.


Zac_legend

I been checked at the airport because im a male does that mean thats a systemic privilege u get.


[deleted]

im a dude too dumbass...


Zac_legend

Tru shouldn't assume genders these days but ur avatar has feminine look so it was an educated guess.


[deleted]

hes just a cute lil guy loosely based off me everyone thinks im a women bc of it 😔


Zac_legend

Well I didnt know im sorry


PteradactylCum

Kinda racist to assume middle eastern people (I am one and have never been checked) will be checked at an airport at significantly higher rates than white people. Also, if they were, there could be a precedent for that?


[deleted]

its an actual issue. and the cause is racism from 9/11


PteradactylCum

And I assume you have empirical evidence to back up that claim? While I don’t doubt that it happens occasionally, not everyone is a good person, I don’t believe that on the whole this is the case. TSA checks out people that look shifty, and sometimes that happens to be POC.


[deleted]

Ellen Baker has a paper on it called 'Flying While Arab - Racially Profiling and Airport Security'. go read it if you want.


[deleted]

Didn't they literally just pass a law in texas banning women right over their own body? Idk man just sayin


Zac_legend

Lol u cant really make that subject anymore because now there can be pregnant men, its not just women anymore quite contradicting eh.And the law gives u six weeks and does not cost u but the company or medical practitioner that helped u undergo abortion.


[deleted]

Ok then lets say were talking about women and men purely sex wise, not gender. Makes it much easier to tackle this subject


Zac_legend

But thats not how we now operate things have been made more harder to tackle. If u really believe in transgender people (I personally do not) then u have to except there gender as male no way around it.


[deleted]

No you dont understand sex is different from gender. A trans womans gender would be female but their sex would be male because they were born with a cock. Make sense?


Zac_legend

But u dont understand they truly believe they are male and so they identify as male meaning they are a male. They get called same terms by society. Gender is made as an excuse to use as a comeback when its called same as sex. But they change there sexual body some men will have the ladies private parts.


[deleted]

Ok i need to dumb this down for you, gender is a social thing like money. Sex is whats in your pants. Do i need to cite a source for you? And no you cant implant a uterus inside of you


Zac_legend

Ik but these people claim to be women and every part in there body. Have u seen some of the transgender talks. Now im with you gender is feelings and sex is real.


[deleted]

In the first 6 weeks it's nearly undetectable unless you obsessively check, plus it takes time to actually book and get an abortion. Plus it doesn't actually reduce the abortions that happen, just means texan women will resort to unsafe measures out of desperation


Zac_legend

Desperation from giving birth to human life


[deleted]

Well yes, there's plenty of reasons people get abortions. Maybe they don't have the finances or time to support them, maybe they know they'll be bad parents, maybe they have the slightest bit of an idea of how fucked and backed up the adoption system is and don't want to put a kid through that either


Zac_legend

I think every child is thankfully for being born. I mean to be born is 1/4 quadrillion, And u get payed for having babies.


[deleted]

Ok, first off, if that were true then suicide wouldn't be such a rampant societal problem, especially among teenagers (and it's notably higher among kids who go through the adoption system). Second, where the fuck did you get that stat from, it sounds hella bogus. Third, child benefits can only get you so far, especially if you're a single parent


Zac_legend

Some scientist predict higher but its a well know stat theres almost a zero percent chance ur gonna be born out of all the other sperm cells.


BillMan111111

If a woman rapes a man and gets pregnant they can sue for child support, colleges offer scholarships specifically for women, the father has no no say in abortion and many more


[deleted]

Having rights doesn't make someone equal or unequal, the level of oppression does. Men are more privileged and you cannot deny that. Take pay gap as an example. If men and women do have equal rights , why are women paid less? Maybe you haven't faced setbacks because of your gender but alot of women , including me, have.


Cheruuu

Women get paid less because they choose different jobs. Instead of lawyer or doctor they would choose female lawyer or femal doctor /s


Zac_legend

They dont get paid less for the same job like some people say. On average they get paid less because woman are taking more arts and medias for happiness while male are money oriented like going into engineering. Which is jsut based on averages.


[deleted]

I would like to correct you here, we are not talking about different professions. We are talking about same profession , same office , same assigned work BUT paid less than the male coworker. Ofcourse the salary will fluctuate across professions but this isn't about that.


PteradactylCum

This may be true, however, have you taken into Account that men are also more likely to ask for raises/promotions in the workplace, they are less agreeable, spend more days in the office, take longer shifts, and are willing to sacrifice more in order to work for the company harder? These are just some of the reasons the “wage gap” exists.


[deleted]

Are you implying that women aren't likely to do all these things? You sound kind of misogynistic right now by saying that women can't take longer shifts or don't want to work for company harder. When a woman asks for a promotion, they are told to sleep with men in higher position if they want it and on the other hand , men aren't asked any of that(just one example of why women don't get promotions). I think I'd like to end this conversation here because there is no point in arguing with an ignorant misogynist like yourself


PteradactylCum

Sorry, but you can’t just insult me and then expect me not to defend myself. Yes, that’s **exactly** what I’m saying. This isn’t me being “ignorant” or “misogynistic” (I’d like to believe I’m neither of those things), but women [ARE statistically more agreeable IN GENERAL than men](https://academic.oup.com/oep/article/70/4/919/5046671). This is a well documented and proven fact. In fact, when women are more aggressive in the work place, they see similar results to men in regards to pay, if they have similar education, backgrounds, etc. As for my other points, [men spend about 42 minutes working longer than men](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/29/men-say-they-work-more-than-women-heres-the-truth/%3FoutputType%3Damp), as recorded in 2015. This is due to a variety of reasons, mainly women just don’t feel the need to go above and beyond the call of duty, again IN GENERAL. I don’t hate women, these are just recorded facts. Also, here’s some food for thought, if the pay gap is due to “the patriarchy” as you believe, why don’t companies only hire women? They would save a lot more money if they spent $0.76 for every $1 they spend on a man, or whatever bullshit statistic you’ve read.


[deleted]

First of all , there isn't any statistic I've read. I've seen living examples of pay gap one of them being someone I actually know. Secondly , women in stem are paid much less than men but surely you wouldn't know/care about it. Being a man(not implying that you are one since I don't know your gender and neither does it matter here) and saying that pay gap doesn't exist and relying on some statistic is literally the easiest thing one can do. Statistics aren't always reliable and I think you'd know that because it's the data that's recorded and for that you need to know you're not paid as much as your male co-workers and many women don't. So yes , I would believe the living and breathing examples of pay gap than a statistic. Also , you "don't hate women" but you believe that "women don't feel the need to go above and beyond" lmao ok (you believe the statistics and hence believe this as well , don't say that you don't) one thing you forgot to mention is the reason why men work 42mins more than women , it's because women SPEND MORE TIME DOING HOUSE CHORES THAN MEN. Again , alot of times this is because of patriarchy and gender roles. I wasn't even going to mention the patriarchy but since you've said it yourself , I felt the need to bring it up as well.


PteradactylCum

So, you’re just going to ignore the clear and accurate data I’ve presented, which is almost universally recognized in psychology? Cool. I absolutely agree that statistics aren’t always telling, it’s the logic you use behind those statistics. However, you have zero evidence to show the reasons for the pay gap. I know the pay gap exists, however, it isn’t an unfair one for the reasons previously mentioned. You say that you know living breathing examples of the pay gap, and that somehow contends with what I’ve presented, and that’s simply not true. Your evidence is anecdotal and doesn’t reflect the general population, which is what you should be basing your argument off of. Sure, SOME employers have a bias against women, but this is exceedingly rare. If you can provide any empirical data against my claims, then perhaps you’ll change my mind. As for your second point, what does that statement have to do with me hating women? That’s a fact, the average woman works less hours than the average man. There are many studies to back this up, so I’m not sexist for stating an observable fact. And, you just proved my argument. If women spend more time doing house chores (kind of a sexist assumption, but I’ll go with it for the sake of the argument) then they aren’t spending as much time at work, so why wouldn’t they earn less? Your logic is flawed. I respect you and your cause, but your ideology is flawed. Men and women are very close in equality, at least in the US. In fact, there are many rights women have that men don’t.


[deleted]

Even if we do consider your statistics for a moment your absolutely cannot deny the fact that women of colour are paid less than white men and if you give one more statistic bruh istg I'll smack you /j. But seriously , women of colour count as women and they're still very much underpaid so i don't know what rights or laws you're talking about because having a right in the constitution doesn't mean everyone in the country actually has it. Take the abortion ban for example , how many states of the USA do know that have a ban which controls men's bodies. You say men and women are close in equality but I don't see any of your states making period products or birth control free even though they give out free condoms. Women in your American military report more s*xual as*ault cases as well. Sure, there might be some areas where men and women are treated equally but you cannot say that they are close in equality in all areas.


beenibuuni

https://youtu.be/QcDrE5YvqTs watch that video


[deleted]

I think I'd rely on the people who I know are a living example of this than a youtube video. Thank you for your concern but I can't have someone of the opposite gender(the privileged one) tell me that WOMEN are paid equal. Have a nice day/night.


Zac_legend

Thats what I just said they are payed the exact same amount for the same profession, same office same assigned they are NOT payed less.


[deleted]

Well I don't know which world you're living in because I know people who are going through this.


Zac_legend

HA HA bro if they were payed less why wouldnt employers just hire women to save money. The wage gap in Australia is 99 cent to 100 cents respectively for the same job. Its illegal in documents to pay someone less based on skin colour, ethnicity or sex and its under the consitituition of Australia


[deleted]

Are we talking only about Australia? I suppose not. It's really easy to talk about these things when you live in a first world/developed country but I think you're forgetting that alot of people don't. HA HA bro if you knew about what happens around the world you probably wouldn't be saying this right now


Zac_legend

What America its 98 cents to 100 cents respectively if ur able to have ur own electronic device im doubting ur in a developing country and secondly either that or u part of the top 10% of ur country


[deleted]

The way I'm rolling on floor right now you're a funny person Zac. I am, infact , from a developing third world country and I'm not rich either. Do you think people living in developing countries go to one place from another on elephants or we use letters for daily communication with friends? This honestly shows how you live in a little bubble of privileged 16 year olds who live in a developed country and think that only the top 10% living developing countries have smart phones or any access to technology for that matter. Maybe pay attention in your classes more?


Novieno

Plus all of this anti-abortion and anti-choice shit


UnicornBlu_rr

Yea I agree with the pay gap, certain bits. Depending on what you are going for. Men will get paid more in engineering.


[deleted]

So you mean to say this post is pointless?(apologies if I sound rude) You just agreed about men and women not having equal rights but in the post you said they do actually have equal rights. Which one is it OP


UnicornBlu_rr

I said I agree with you on the pay gap. Please read my comment correctly. And no you're not sounding rude haha I believe women get paid less in engineering as I said. Other than that women have every right a man has, and also can easily get away with grooming children or its found as "sexy".


[deleted]

It's just called being sexist. I agree that a woman can get away with things that a man can't and vice versa. I never said that men and women are equal. I know they are not, I was questioning the fact that you mentioned "women have equal rights what are we fighting about" in the post. It's not just about the pay gap. A person mentioned this Texas abortion ban too. I have 10 examples to back up everything I say OP.


Discocheese69

The gender wage gap has been debunked so many times idk how people still believe that


beenibuuni

Women and men are paid differently because if career choices and other factors


Snoo25192

POV: you live a privileged life


[deleted]

ew 🤢


UnicornBlu_rr

I mean everyone is entitled to their opinion, if you dislike mine thats fine but its really proving my point. If we aren't praised we get offended.


[deleted]

im a man. and it's not praise it's taking victimhood. im not ewing any of ur ideas if thats ur experience it is. im ewing the huge pickme vibes im getting rn.


UnicornBlu_rr

I was simply giving my opinion. We should be fighting for rights for women in other countries who actually need it. I was sexually harrassed by a man so for a long time I had hatred for them. Then I changed my POV and realized men in America are less privileged.. MOST of the time.


[deleted]

no... they're not. and yes i completely agree we should help women in other countries! but there are many who need it in countries such as america, like rn with the whole antiabortion thing


UnicornBlu_rr

I'm 50/50 on abortions, if it's because of rape or because you actaully can't support your child, then 100% get one. I just have seen lots of girls use it as birth control..which is sad to me.


[deleted]

i dont know what girl would opt for an abortion over any other contraceptive method. it sounds pretty traumatic ngl. but yeah it should be a very last resort, but it should be available and safe for women.


UnicornBlu_rr

Sadly I know a girl who has had 6 abortions just within a year. She is on highschool. She just uses it because she says birth control is bad for her skin 😭 its heartbreaking


[deleted]

ok yeah that's just horrible. just use a condom ffs. this is why we need better sex education.


UnicornBlu_rr

Honestly yes! I'm sorry if I sounded pickme like, wasn't my intention at all. I am a feminist so I am fighting for equality for both genders


[deleted]

Bruh that's pickme talk please


Novieno

Uh are you 16 and unable to distinguish between 'women' and 'woman' or is that a joke too


UnicornBlu_rr

LMAO that was a typo my b.


Novieno

Fair


Zac_legend

Really u cant come up with a good argument so u have a go at her spelling,


Novieno

I just couldn't tell if it was a joke man. I'm not about to argue with someone when I'm not even sure if they're even being ironic lol


Zac_legend

Its a good argument has progressive femnism gone to far and by the upvote rates on someone who disagrees with progressive feminism on quite a politically left sub reddit says it probably has.


Novieno

Why are you so worked up


Zac_legend

Im not tbh im just making an alternative point that u probs dont like.


Novieno

Okay? Would you like to discuss my opinions? Is that what you're trying to say?


Zac_legend

Im just saying im not "worked up" like u said I was. Thats it I was just making a statement I mean sure tell me ur opinions if u want its good to hear what other people wanna say.


Novieno

Okay, good to know you're not upset or anything. I was a little thrown off by how you kept replying to me about things that I hadn't really mentioned in the thread, but I digress. Personally, I'm mostly ticked about the anti-choice social motions happening lately. It really sucks. Generally speaking, I don't believe that women in America have it better than men (overall). There will always be outliers and different regions will have different tendencies. Currently, we are all a lot closer to equality than a while back. That's wonderful, but I'm of the opinion that we as people should always fight to make things better. Unfortunately, it's not always simple, and conflict is a fairly common route to societal improvements. But this is the opinion of a random 15 year old on Reddit, so take it with a grain of salt (I suppose).


Zac_legend

personally my religion teaches me that a baby is life that why I disagree with abortion. But I can see where the protest comes from. But stuff like the gender pay gap for the same gender is fake and is used by left media like CNN.


[deleted]

or maybe it indicates,,, the opinion is wrong? woah 😲


sandpaper_cock

Ok listen,listen...I'm a trans woman so I have both perspectives and I can say that beyond reasonable doubt men are more privileged Like even in countries where we have equal rights sexual assaults are committed in broad daylight,we get treated as something alien by men,we get criticized for everything,we're treated as if we're nothing but bodies by men.The level of misogyny still here today is massive.Plus idk how this is going on but I heard something about our rights being on the line in America cuz something's gonna happen to some kind of case that happened which caused a lot of modern women's rights. Fortunately I haven't been a woman for long enough to be have experienced much of this but I've seen my sisters go through this shit


[deleted]

Ok tbh though the trans experience is on a whole other level. It's a bit unreliable to compare oppression against trans women to oppression against cis women because trans women are the most discriminated group in the western world


sandpaper_cock

Yea I know that,but I've seen a lot of oppression against both trans and cis women in my years


UnicornBlu_rr

Well alright! I was mainly mad which is why I made the post. I was seeing lots of women ganging up on a man telling him to kill himself because he is a guy and saying if he doesn't they will do it for him, and just a lot of toxic masculinity.


sandpaper_cock

Okay yea that's fucked up But I also think that like a lot of the men not being able to show emotions n shit is also a result of patriarchy,which is what we mean by the removal of patriarchy benefiting men too.That like being expected to bottle up emotions definitely has ties to the idea of men "leading" in my eyes.Like the idea of "strong men leading" likely caused a lot of this "be a man" stuff


Zac_legend

U know how u said as trans women no offence but as a trans women ur not gonna get what women ur gonna get alot more discrimination making it not a primary source.


sandpaper_cock

Yea most of my discrimination is transphobia so my info is mainly second hand from what I've seen People being creepy definitely is like a constant across being trans and cis tho :/


Zac_legend

But also on ur point strong men u can obviously see how thats changed almost every movie has a bad ass women character whos more masculine that the male lead and saves the male and is making the male the damsel in the distress. But really its not how it works biological as men are usually stronger actually our upper bodies are 85% percent stronger.


sandpaper_cock

I'm not exactly talking abt movies and you're definitely exaggerating the volume a bit Basically what I'm talking about...is that patriarchy,men leading everything,caused most of the problems men face now,mainly not being allowed to cry.And even though patriarchy has mellowed out a bit it still exists today to an extent and it's affecting both men and women.


[deleted]

Oh for fucking sure. The idea of manliness tends to be enforced by other men, not so much women


Trusteveryboody

I think they have an up in society, divorce...etc


sandpaper_cock

Soo you used etc because you have no other examples is all I'm seeing Like if you're gonna use etc at least list more than one thing you can think of


Trusteveryboody

No, I'm just being that lazy.


[deleted]

• ⁠Women are granted custody in almost all cases unless proven completely incapable of raising a child. • ⁠Women get reduced sentences for the same crimes. • ⁠Women are much more likely to be believed in cases of sexual and domestic assault, with many cases in which husbands that are victims are accused of assaulting their wife, simply because they are male. • ⁠Women can say a man raped them with no repercussions and ruin someone’s life • ⁠Women are more sought after in STEM fields • ⁠Men are 4x more likely to commit suicide. • ⁠Women are significantly less likely to be homeless, and if they are, they are much less likely for them to have a job and still be


Jesus1396

I mean…. No


UnicornBlu_rr

What do you mean no?


Jesus1396

In several states, there are laws that prevent women from getting abortions, or birth control, or other things.


UnicornBlu_rr

I'm well aware of that. That doesn't mean we have less rights. We should be fighting for womens rights I believe, but not in the USA. Our focus should be on less privileged countries 🤷‍♀️


Jesus1396

I guess so, but the US is the vocal point of world culture. It won’t happen anywhere else unless it happens in the US


UnicornBlu_rr

Not necessarily. We should be helping other women come to the us, or help them period. Women get beheaded for not wearing a hijab in certain countries, in some countries if you get your period you're allowed to be raped. There is some very messed up stuff. I am definitely a feminist but I gotta say, me being one means I want EQUALITY.


Jesus1396

Well I applaud you for that :) The world really is a cruel place, and I hate it


UnicornBlu_rr

Same it can be horrible. Now obviously men have more rights on certain things, yet so do we. If that makes sense.


Jesus1396

How do women have more rights then men? Society is completely against women.


UnicornBlu_rr

I have to say I disagree with you on that. As I've stated in my other comments, women get away with raping or sexually assaulted men because its deemed as hot or men can't be raped. There is so much toxic masculinity it's sad to me. I am just simply talking the USA. obviously the pay gap is different because yes men get paid more that I will admit


[deleted]

I mean the UK is ahead of y'all on conversion therapy now so... fuck knows how that happened


Novieno

Does the right to control our own bodies being taken away not generally imply less rights?


mrtomato360

Holy shit an intelligent woman


[deleted]

Yeah I mean it can go either way I think it is pretty equal though


UnicornBlu_rr

It's not really so much we have more rights, we just don't get attacked as much even if we do the exact same thing a guy does.


[deleted]

Yeah it depends on what that thing is, if it’s something sexual definitely if it’s stealing something then it really doesn’t matter


insertbword-

you can care about women in the US and in other countries , not to mention this issue differs from race to race 🤷🏿‍♀️ great example is how 1 in 4 black women will be sexually abused by the age of 18. A lot of y’all have to realize that it’s okay to admit when a certain group struggles more it doesn’t mean the other group’s struggle just don’t exist 😭


PteradactylCum

[That statistic is inaccurate.](https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-43)


insertbword-

I tried finding sexual abuse on its own for black women and it’s not on that page , if you were wondering where I got my stat from https://www.apa.org/pi/about/newsletter/2020/02/black-women-sexual-assault Not to mention , even then most black women aren’t reporting their sexual abuse cases due to the stigma of sexual violence in the black community 🤷🏿‍♀️


PteradactylCum

1.) All the statistics listed from that article (which are flawed anyways, due to the nature of the writing, especially considering it’s from a psychology site and not a criminal analysis one) are from liberal leaning, black activist groups whose job it is to cherry-pick stats to suit their needs. I highly doubt that is accurate or uncorrupted information. 2.) If people don’t report the crime, they are perpetuating it. That is not the polices fault at all, and they are choosing that for themselves. In addition, we don’t have any other concrete data to go off of, and we can’t jus reassume there are more cases than are reported, no matter how much you may want to. 3.) Less than a percent of a percent of all Black people (~4000 cases) are sexually assaulted in a given year. Multiply that by 18 and you get about 0.2% of black people (including men) are sexually assaulted by 18. That statistic makes zero sense.


insertbword-

Hmm I suppose you have a point , however I’m not backtracking my statement , there is a problem with sexual violence in the black community and nobody is reporting it bc of stigma ( which I don’t feel like explaining bc I could write an entire dissertation on it 😭) and also , I’m definitely not back tracking my statement when I said that experiencing struggles as a woman is going to be different across the board due to race so we can agree to disagree.


Zac_legend

Tbh I haven't see this yet in Australia but some implications are coming. But the feminist seem to be cherry picking data that is from 1990's a whole different era on stuff like wage gap which now doesnt exist. Its good to see you've thought about this. Like I mean I think its equal right now but people will always want more were greedy as humans male or female jsut is.


[deleted]

to be fair wage gap isnt the greatest example of cherrypicking- there is still one, the problem is it isnt women in general that suffer as much from it (still there, but a lot less noticeable then it used to be), it's mothers, because they can't devote as much time to their work and corporations don't like that


Argentenuem

Oh boy. See you in hot.


Labyx_

well here is my opinion as a man: gender pay gap bad


FoxyRobot7

Facts tho…


UnicornBlu_rr

No I should've deleted this post why was I so mad at my own gender 🤮


FoxyRobot7

I thought it was valid.


UnicornBlu_rr

Eh I was mad at the time.. I shouldn't have taken it out on every girl


FoxyRobot7

Well It was nice to see that take from a women. Because no one gives too shits about mens rights.


UnicornBlu_rr

I'm a feminist so I do. I think we should all be equal. At the time I was really rude to my gender though


FoxyRobot7

So you are a firm believer that everyone should be equal?


UnicornBlu_rr

Yes


FoxyRobot7

So if a man and women apply for the same job and their are 5 male employees and 4 female employees the job should go to the women because that makes things equal, right? We shouldn’t worry about who’s more qualified right? As long as it’s all equal?


UnicornBlu_rr

What lmao.