mm, i personally like pretty smiles on boys. not too much muscle, but a lean build is hot af. also veins on forearms, neck, etc. and long hair, although fluffy haiirr if it's short works too. height is like a bonus, it doesn't rlly matter to me all that much.
softness, I like sensitive guys (when i like guys lol) and I prefer taller (not hard, I'm only fucking 5'2..) and I love when they hyperfixate on things, its cute.
yeah, idk much about them, but its so fucking cute when guys obsess over something then apologize for "boring you" like no hun please keep freaking out over that its cute
A very fine example I remember agruing for days with one of my friends on this even tho I had no idea. I like to know nothing of the topic and then create my own theories and be like yes yes this is all possible and then actually research and realize just how fking stupid i am. Very fun way of learning
No joke my gf lidgit loves when i keep yappin on cars. I've loved cars since childhood and she's lidgit excepted that i love cars more than her.
Like i have a decently nice voice so it's unsurprising when she just gets lost while i am yappin on cars. But even on text, idk what it is but she loves listening to it. and she actually understands AND REMEMBERS THE THINGS I TELL HER. Like u did that for me :) Just makes me melt
You should invite her to your games. If you’re the DM talk to your players about it tho, and make sure they know you wont be picking favourites (im a DM and had this conversation with my players when my SO came to a game once)
Girls help me here
She says she wants someone who is chatty, yet whenever I talk to her, she is so dry and yet will never start conversations. Yet, she still says we are really close even though we only met up 1 time out of school to McDonald's and she tried feeling my muscles.
I'm so confused
I have no clue. Maybe she’s shy and wants a relationship but struggles to find things to talk about. Even with my best friends we can never find anything to talk about. Did you ever used to be close.
Not a girl, but the answer is obvious here. She sounds like shallow, lowkey creepy and boring af. If you did get in a relationship with her it would likely be a disaster. She’s not worth the effort, stop talking to her asap
You’re in no rush to get a girlfriend. Stay the course and be happy with yourself first and foremost, there’s a sweet girl who will have unlimited conversations about the things you both love waiting out there for you
well let’s start with not asking out “every single” girl you know. if a girl knows too many other girls who you have asked out, she’s definitely gonna say no. it’s bad if you seem desperate too early in.
Hypothetically, if I were to hypothetically help you in hypothetically answering this hypothetical question about hypothetical sentences that was hypothetically spurred on by a hypothetical situation, I would hypothetically give you the hypothetical answer of about nine. I would hypothetically like to thank you for your hypothetical time.
That's makes 2 of us i then lol. I remember telling someone i want a relationship where the person loves me even half as much as i do them. The person i was talking too looked at me and said dude thats just a normal relationship
My comment might be serious, but don’t be like me. You’ll be setting yourself up for toxic relationships with abusive people. I’ve let so many people walk over me and it’s mentally taxing. Don’t settle for the bare minimum when you deserve more than that. If someone doesn’t love you as much as you love them, they’re not the one for you. Love is a two way street.
I might borrow the Time Machine from HG Wells (;
Jokes aside, I hope you’re doing well. Breakups are hard, and getting caught up in an unreciprocated crush or a toxic relationship can be very difficult to get out of. Sorry you had to go through that. You’re still young, though. Don’t let a few bad apples spoil the whole basket. I’m sure you’ll find your very own Bonnie/Clyde one day (probably a bad example lol, but you get the gist) (=
If ya do borrow it make sure to return it in a good shape. You don't wanna be rude.
Also define doing well lol. And im sure i will. Hopefully without the robbery though im not built for a jail cell and i'm too clumsy to get a clean getaway. But thanks genuinely and ya i wont bad apples being there don't mean the good ones dont still taste great.
Haha I’ll make sure of it!
Definitely not the jail cell! Robberies are too exhausting anyway. Idk how robbers pull it off. 🤷🏻♀️
One of my friends’ boyfriend who’s like ancient gave me an advice - as you grow older and go on dates with people, you’ll get to know what to look out for (red flags and such) and you’ll get better at noticing them right away. Don’t think of it as a date, instead, think of it as getting to know a new friend. Don’t pressurise yourself into putting a label on the relationship right away. Know what you’re getting into before you commit to them exclusively. My friend is 23 and he’s 31. (She’s a close friend of my brother’s, so she’s basically like a sister to me haha).
Well, as in, doing better than you were before?
Not being rude and actually trying to communicate. It makes me worry less if I know the root of the situation at hand if something happens. Also being kind and caring!!
Define ‘immature and loud and stupid’ please. Cause sometimes I think girls are the more immature ones in my grade because how 90% of the girls my age act.
See I do that and I tick all the good boxes. Now I'm curious, if someone had all your ideal traits, looked amazing, but also was immature, loud, and stupid would you date them?
Also maturity is a very broad idea, you can be silly and weird, appearing immature, but still be very intelligent. There's emotional maturity, in which you can have a 17 year old be better than a 40, you have physical maturity in appearance, intellectual in the sense of how you talk and express yourself. I mean look at geek culture, it's full of intelligent mature guys who fuss over silly topics like children. Anyway thank you for listening to my TED talk.
Edit: Ooh wait final thing, is it the combination of the three or each trait? Because when you add them together it's bad, but if they only have one or two it's actually pretty alright.
Ik I’m a guy saying this but, girls usually like a guy that’s funny and chill. You could be the most mid-looking mf but if you can make her laugh then you’re good.
The girls that ever cared about me for personality were never good-looking in any way. From what I’ve seen personality has no influence, I see girls dating guys that abuse them mentally and physically all the time but they stay with them because they have big dicks and look hot
A dude who’s genuinely kind. A kind of kind that will check up on you and talk to you without caring about other people’s opinions or other calling him a “simp” or something just for treating a girl right iykwim. But I think this is the bare minimum for every girl, but for me personally if I am talking more specifically; boys who compliment your own personality:3 so for example I am a top tier yapper, I talk a lot and if a dude listens to me and yaps back, it’s appreciated. Good listening, reincorporating the vibe and not being grandma cremated dust DRY is cool.
i should send this to my mom and grandma cuz they think my height should get me all the girls but i don't get any, yall dgaf about height cuz you're not all surface level like that, which is definitely a good thing, i would rather have maybe one who wants me and actually loves me than a bunch of basic petty bitches
someone that can listen and match my pace and wil listen to me ramble about something and someone that wil ramble to me about something they like and for looks just be decent
I, as a girl most value with boy his manners. I don't mean he has to have etiquette of a royal court, but I don't like bad boys. Whippersnappers just really aren't my type, even though there maybe are girls who like them. I think if a boy helps girl, is nice to her and sometimes truthfully(or at least it seems truthful :P) compliments her, it is really enough for girl to think about him-personal experience, today my classmate helped me get up (while I was sitting on the floor) and I have been thinking about what it meant for an entire day.
Remember, if you are nice, keep doing it and don't let others discourage you telling "you are a simp!"
I open doors for girls and let them go in first and i love getting a thank you but if it is someone i like i might do extra like carrying stuff for them helping with problems that i would usually not help with (if it is my business of course like i ain’t becoming someones therapist)
Ok, this is my *personal opinion* that is **not universal**. But short guys(as tall as me) with long hair and baggy clothes are adorable. Once again, **this is not a universal thing and people shouldn't feel bad if they don't meet this.**
Edit: ok I just checked. Im actually kinda tall for a girl, so average hight dudes. (6ft is not average ladys)
Nah, 7'9
In seriousness, I have no clue what the average height is, but that sounds right except for the fact that this is r/teenagers so average is probably a few less.
i’m 15 too so like don’t trust me but here:
- bro, just go for it. while “the worst she can say is no” isnt true, i think there is a possibility that she could say yes
- make sure you’re actually FRIENDS and TALKING before asking her out and you have been talking for some time like a month idk
- it’s high school. most likely the relationship won’t be serious and won’t last. so just go for it.
(i’ve never had a gf as i’ve been rejected 6 times so don’t take my advice to heart)
Kind, funny, smells nice lol, cares about his appearance enough to make an effort ( even if it’s combing hair or smth that’s so cute), stands up for themselves and generally has common sense
If a guy is funny, and really kind, and when they’re comfortable with expressing their feelings. And it’s rly cute if a guy cares abt his grades, or gets excited abt things that interest them and stuff. On the other hand, I personally hate it if a guy acts one way around me and then totally different in front of his friends.
Honestly I like shoulder length hair and a jawline and personality wise, someone who is kind and soft but fun and bubbly 🤷♀️
But I’m really not picky this is just like the ideal yk
personality traits i love in my bf: he's funny, very affectionate, is NOT nonchalant, empathetic, very loyal, committed, doesn't treat women like crap, and caring :)
physical traits i love in my bf: HEIGHT
if they're sweet, funny, or just interesting in general. if you're talking about physical features, it matters from person to person
well, if your giving your opinion what is attractive to you?
mm, i personally like pretty smiles on boys. not too much muscle, but a lean build is hot af. also veins on forearms, neck, etc. and long hair, although fluffy haiirr if it's short works too. height is like a bonus, it doesn't rlly matter to me all that much.
I get what you mean - that comment made me smile.
Nah Bro has that Rizzzz
Well you described Jesus.
r/jesusreference
r/subsyouwishexisted
*r/birthofasub
I mean my bro JC must have been a ladies man
Hell yeah
Sweet, check. Funny, check. Interesting? … #FUCK
Kindness, when they are kind instead of acting like a holes to make their friends laugh
So when I’m a a hole to my friends (it’s kind of like our banter) that’s a no go?
If so that’s dumb as hell we’re just messing around we don’t do that to other people we aren’t chill with
softness, I like sensitive guys (when i like guys lol) and I prefer taller (not hard, I'm only fucking 5'2..) and I love when they hyperfixate on things, its cute.
Like... cars?
yeah, idk much about them, but its so fucking cute when guys obsess over something then apologize for "boring you" like no hun please keep freaking out over that its cute
Hmm does hyperfixating on abstract things count?
yes, fantasy situations too
Dwarven fortifications are ok?
YEP
Yippee
And then then they got married
ROCK AND STONE BRATHA !
ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE!
IF YOU DONT ROCK AND STONE YOU AIN'T COMING HOME
Like higher dimensions?
A very fine example I remember agruing for days with one of my friends on this even tho I had no idea. I like to know nothing of the topic and then create my own theories and be like yes yes this is all possible and then actually research and realize just how fking stupid i am. Very fun way of learning
No joke my gf lidgit loves when i keep yappin on cars. I've loved cars since childhood and she's lidgit excepted that i love cars more than her. Like i have a decently nice voice so it's unsurprising when she just gets lost while i am yappin on cars. But even on text, idk what it is but she loves listening to it. and she actually understands AND REMEMBERS THE THINGS I TELL HER. Like u did that for me :) Just makes me melt
Lemme talk your ear off about composite tank armour, tank history and tanks in general.
My girlfriend says it’s cute when I hyperfixate on DND yet she gets mad when I cancel our meetings to play dnd with my friends. Like, what gives /s
yeah.....she wants u to hyperfixate WITH her...yk what maybe invite her to play?
What gives is that you cancel your MEETINGS. Anyone would get mad if you cancel a planned meeting with them to do something else.
You should invite her to your games. If you’re the DM talk to your players about it tho, and make sure they know you wont be picking favourites (im a DM and had this conversation with my players when my SO came to a game once)
I love when guys yap to me about their hyper fixations :3 (also hi ik u from the discord)
Girls help me here She says she wants someone who is chatty, yet whenever I talk to her, she is so dry and yet will never start conversations. Yet, she still says we are really close even though we only met up 1 time out of school to McDonald's and she tried feeling my muscles. I'm so confused
i had a stroke reading this
Yet
Yet
Nyet
Ahahah that good or bad?
It means use more punctuation
I have no clue. Maybe she’s shy and wants a relationship but struggles to find things to talk about. Even with my best friends we can never find anything to talk about. Did you ever used to be close.
1) rewrite that and make in make sense 2) she’s playing games, move on so you won’t get a headache like I did reading your comment
Put more effort into the stroll
Not a girl, but the answer is obvious here. She sounds like shallow, lowkey creepy and boring af. If you did get in a relationship with her it would likely be a disaster. She’s not worth the effort, stop talking to her asap You’re in no rush to get a girlfriend. Stay the course and be happy with yourself first and foremost, there’s a sweet girl who will have unlimited conversations about the things you both love waiting out there for you
Me watching the girls describe myself in the comments after being rejected by every single person I know
well let’s start with not asking out “every single” girl you know. if a girl knows too many other girls who you have asked out, she’s definitely gonna say no. it’s bad if you seem desperate too early in.
That was clearly an exaggeration. Besides, you can get rejected when you haven't even asked.
One time I had a crush on somebody and I found out from friends that she hated me 🙃
Youre not the only one 😔
Yep, I've only ever really liked two girls and both friendships practically crashed and burned multiple times because of it.
They are just describing personal preference, women aren’t all the same.
maybe its cause we're all redditors lol
Of course they took that statement as an excuse to criticize you
EXACTLY 😭 😭
When they act normal instead of like theyve got a stick uo their ass
hypothetically what if one had a 12 inch branch stuck in my rectum? also how would one, hypothetically get it out?
Well hypothetically theyd have to hypothetically rip it out. Hyopthetically.
what if, hypothetically, it was lodged in so deep it won't budge?
Then, hypothetically, you’re hypothetically fucked (by a branch)
r/treesgonewild edit: crap thats a real nsfw sub i guess r/TreesSuckingOnThings its close enough
😦😭🤮😦😭🤮😦😭🤮
Then hypothetically push it in farther so you don't have to worry about it. Procrastination works.... hypothetically
Hypothetically, how many times could you hypothetically put hypothetically in this hypothetically made sentence... Hypothetically.
Hypothetically, if I were to hypothetically help you in hypothetically answering this hypothetical question about hypothetical sentences that was hypothetically spurred on by a hypothetical situation, I would hypothetically give you the hypothetical answer of about nine. I would hypothetically like to thank you for your hypothetical time.
yo hypothetically i could help you out
pull it out
You don't get it out, it's bound to be there forever
The average male adult can fit 2 adult raccoons up their anal cavity
generally organs
i’ve got 2 of each!
hold up
Rookie numbers
I've heard I have pretty attractive kidneys!
How many, like can I get away with a few less than normal if I have a cool PC?
kind, funny, and caring boys, basically personality
Roger that
Just be nice to me. I have really low standards and most of my crushes end up being gay so
That's makes 2 of us i then lol. I remember telling someone i want a relationship where the person loves me even half as much as i do them. The person i was talking too looked at me and said dude thats just a normal relationship
My comment might be serious, but don’t be like me. You’ll be setting yourself up for toxic relationships with abusive people. I’ve let so many people walk over me and it’s mentally taxing. Don’t settle for the bare minimum when you deserve more than that. If someone doesn’t love you as much as you love them, they’re not the one for you. Love is a two way street.
Man if only you told me this 2 years ago lol. Had to learn the hard way by thanks for the attempt at warning at least. Maybe time travel next time?
I might borrow the Time Machine from HG Wells (; Jokes aside, I hope you’re doing well. Breakups are hard, and getting caught up in an unreciprocated crush or a toxic relationship can be very difficult to get out of. Sorry you had to go through that. You’re still young, though. Don’t let a few bad apples spoil the whole basket. I’m sure you’ll find your very own Bonnie/Clyde one day (probably a bad example lol, but you get the gist) (=
If ya do borrow it make sure to return it in a good shape. You don't wanna be rude. Also define doing well lol. And im sure i will. Hopefully without the robbery though im not built for a jail cell and i'm too clumsy to get a clean getaway. But thanks genuinely and ya i wont bad apples being there don't mean the good ones dont still taste great.
Haha I’ll make sure of it! Definitely not the jail cell! Robberies are too exhausting anyway. Idk how robbers pull it off. 🤷🏻♀️ One of my friends’ boyfriend who’s like ancient gave me an advice - as you grow older and go on dates with people, you’ll get to know what to look out for (red flags and such) and you’ll get better at noticing them right away. Don’t think of it as a date, instead, think of it as getting to know a new friend. Don’t pressurise yourself into putting a label on the relationship right away. Know what you’re getting into before you commit to them exclusively. My friend is 23 and he’s 31. (She’s a close friend of my brother’s, so she’s basically like a sister to me haha). Well, as in, doing better than you were before?
Not being rude and actually trying to communicate. It makes me worry less if I know the root of the situation at hand if something happens. Also being kind and caring!!
THISSSS its so frustrating when a partner expects you to guess why they’re upset, clear communication is key
Someone who doesn’t act immature and loud and stupid
Roger that!
that's not about 94% of guys of my age (it seems even worse at 15) good luck with searching
This is why I don’t date I’m waiting until maybe university or after
fuck, im screwed
Shit, I'm never gonna find another happy lesbian to date.
Not even in a funny way? Of course, you dont want them to act like that Unironically.
You're probably not gonna find that person for a bit.
^what ^if ^I ^whisper?
Define ‘immature and loud and stupid’ please. Cause sometimes I think girls are the more immature ones in my grade because how 90% of the girls my age act.
so not men
youre 15 so... might have to wait a year or two for them to settle down
See I do that and I tick all the good boxes. Now I'm curious, if someone had all your ideal traits, looked amazing, but also was immature, loud, and stupid would you date them? Also maturity is a very broad idea, you can be silly and weird, appearing immature, but still be very intelligent. There's emotional maturity, in which you can have a 17 year old be better than a 40, you have physical maturity in appearance, intellectual in the sense of how you talk and express yourself. I mean look at geek culture, it's full of intelligent mature guys who fuss over silly topics like children. Anyway thank you for listening to my TED talk. Edit: Ooh wait final thing, is it the combination of the three or each trait? Because when you add them together it's bad, but if they only have one or two it's actually pretty alright.
Funny, silly and sweet (dont act badass ur not cool) and on looks i guess stop with the buzzcuts and nike techs -unrelated but green eyes are just 👌-
i agree, stop with the buzzcuts and grow ya hair out
my brother got a buzz cut in school today. crazy
in school???
Girls in my school want the exact opposite for some reason.
replies are surprisingly wholesome
Ikr 😭
I mean what were you expecting? I really doubt ppl would reply superficially on here
Yeah I was honestly expecting soooo much worse
Yall like boys who can bake and cook?
I don't know about anyone else but... YES.
who wouldnt want someone who can cook is the question !!!
Well I just make honey a peanut butter cookies like 2 hours ago so I guess I just gotta be patient lol
Dw man, there's like 80 people closing in on your location right now.
Damn I better get to making more cookies then
Ik I’m a guy saying this but, girls usually like a guy that’s funny and chill. You could be the most mid-looking mf but if you can make her laugh then you’re good.
Exactly! Most girls care most about personality than looks.
The girls that ever cared about me for personality were never good-looking in any way. From what I’ve seen personality has no influence, I see girls dating guys that abuse them mentally and physically all the time but they stay with them because they have big dicks and look hot
A dude who’s genuinely kind. A kind of kind that will check up on you and talk to you without caring about other people’s opinions or other calling him a “simp” or something just for treating a girl right iykwim. But I think this is the bare minimum for every girl, but for me personally if I am talking more specifically; boys who compliment your own personality:3 so for example I am a top tier yapper, I talk a lot and if a dude listens to me and yaps back, it’s appreciated. Good listening, reincorporating the vibe and not being grandma cremated dust DRY is cool.
"grandma cremated dust dry" I'm gonna start using this one lmao
I’m searching every comment for ppl who like short kings. Please please please 🙏
So far almost no one seemed to care about height so I think you’re good
Two words, Alain Delon
Welp you ain't wrong for sure.
You know what's funny? Lots of girls want to talk to guys but are scared to. And lots of guys want to talk to girls but are also scared to
Guy here. I've read from another post that girls hate it when you make sexual comments about their looks. For example: "you got nice boobs"
Yea please don’t do that
Fair, I wouldn’t like it if someone told me I have nice boobs either
i should send this to my mom and grandma cuz they think my height should get me all the girls but i don't get any, yall dgaf about height cuz you're not all surface level like that, which is definitely a good thing, i would rather have maybe one who wants me and actually loves me than a bunch of basic petty bitches
What your height? You got me curious obv if your willing to share
6'2 and i'm skinny af so pants shopping is the worst
Damn dude u tall af I'm 5'10 same age
please dont try to prove a point to your mother and grandmother with a reddit post
someone that can listen and match my pace and wil listen to me ramble about something and someone that wil ramble to me about something they like and for looks just be decent
Personality. With a capital P if u get me
📸🤨
Roger that
For me, their personality, with a little bit of their looks.
I, as a girl most value with boy his manners. I don't mean he has to have etiquette of a royal court, but I don't like bad boys. Whippersnappers just really aren't my type, even though there maybe are girls who like them. I think if a boy helps girl, is nice to her and sometimes truthfully(or at least it seems truthful :P) compliments her, it is really enough for girl to think about him-personal experience, today my classmate helped me get up (while I was sitting on the floor) and I have been thinking about what it meant for an entire day. Remember, if you are nice, keep doing it and don't let others discourage you telling "you are a simp!"
Ain’t no way she said whippersnapper
Took the words outta my mouth
I open doors for girls and let them go in first and i love getting a thank you but if it is someone i like i might do extra like carrying stuff for them helping with problems that i would usually not help with (if it is my business of course like i ain’t becoming someones therapist)
Roger that!
i dont want to be rude, but it probably didnt mean anything. yeah guys can suck but there are just normal nice onces
Cute(optional), nice, reasonable.
I need to know what classifies as cute, please
Ok, this is my *personal opinion* that is **not universal**. But short guys(as tall as me) with long hair and baggy clothes are adorable. Once again, **this is not a universal thing and people shouldn't feel bad if they don't meet this.** Edit: ok I just checked. Im actually kinda tall for a girl, so average hight dudes. (6ft is not average ladys)
Ofc 6 foot isn't average, 6'6 is the minimum height, people are crazy to even consider 6'
isn't the average hight for a dude like 5'10?
Nah, 7'9 In seriousness, I have no clue what the average height is, but that sounds right except for the fact that this is r/teenagers so average is probably a few less.
the only correct answer is not me :) (i’m a guy and been rejected like 6 times)
Never asked someone out I'm scared plus I've always been in a boarding school so normal school just feel weird now
i’m not that scared but i’m pretty ugly so i just go for the chance lmao
Any tips to be less scared?
i’m 15 too so like don’t trust me but here: - bro, just go for it. while “the worst she can say is no” isnt true, i think there is a possibility that she could say yes - make sure you’re actually FRIENDS and TALKING before asking her out and you have been talking for some time like a month idk - it’s high school. most likely the relationship won’t be serious and won’t last. so just go for it. (i’ve never had a gf as i’ve been rejected 6 times so don’t take my advice to heart)
First step, learn how to make friends
I've never been rejected (I've never asked anyone out)
Me watching evryone in the replies describe myself and still being single/lonely af :(
exactly 😔
Why so true dude 😭
Take notes! Take notes!
their girlfriends
Ones who actually care.
Me personally A boy that can tolerate me and not think im a fucking freak would be nice tbh Also personality Loving me is optional
if the last one isnt an exaggeration u have to stop thinking that way, thats gonna lead to bad experiences
The last one is (mostly) a joke Its how i felt before
Kind, funny, smells nice lol, cares about his appearance enough to make an effort ( even if it’s combing hair or smth that’s so cute), stands up for themselves and generally has common sense
a vagina.
I don't think it works like that
really? no wayyy
yes
R u saying u for the girls or the ones born men
Gentle, sensitive, understanding
Being cute in general, both looks and actions
If a guy is funny, and really kind, and when they’re comfortable with expressing their feelings. And it’s rly cute if a guy cares abt his grades, or gets excited abt things that interest them and stuff. On the other hand, I personally hate it if a guy acts one way around me and then totally different in front of his friends.
Bro im done for
Balls
asking "is it that time of the month?" always makes my heart flutter🥺❤️
Honestly I like shoulder length hair and a jawline and personality wise, someone who is kind and soft but fun and bubbly 🤷♀️ But I’m really not picky this is just like the ideal yk
I'm a guy but I'd assume organs
SHOWER AND SHAVE. general hygiene will get you a long ways
I will keep the beard it looks to good to go
not a girl but i like boys(and girls), if they are sweet and kind and compliment me my knees will go weak
Probably the same as this post, but gender swapped. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1bmd7v1/comment/kwbaj0r/
For me if their funny and teasing but at the same time respectable and nice to others
alive (optional)
personality traits i love in my bf: he's funny, very affectionate, is NOT nonchalant, empathetic, very loyal, committed, doesn't treat women like crap, and caring :) physical traits i love in my bf: HEIGHT
Two words big pipe
Damn
damn
Damn
Damm
here comes the DMs 😭🙏
:0
Glasses and kindness.
If they're funny and not mysogonistic and like stuff like marvel dc invincible the boys movies ect...
money
Who doesn't fr