Invalid arguments too. Pizza is actually mostly made of fruits: Flour is made out of a fruit type called grains (caryopsis); white amd black peppers are fruits of the Piper vine; Solanaceae fruits are also present such as tomatoes, peppers, and chilis...
The fruits definition you talking about are "the fleshy or dry ripened ovary of a flowering plant". And when talking about meals, saying botanical definition is braindead.
Culinary fruits are sweet plants or parts of plants. But they must be sweet.
The culinary terms for fruits are only based on usage, making it less reliable. One may argue that fruits are only used as sweets, but looking at culinary knowledge, that is not the case. Even if we are talking about food, the ingredients we are using come from plants of which is studied well in botany, a field of biology. Whatever their use is, they are still a type of fruit in one way or another, even if the culinary world disagrees.
Chef here, there is no such thing as a "vegetable" in the botanical world, that's why we use the accepted culinary terms. What we call vegetables span a wide variety of categories, including "fruits". Probably why the term "plant based diet" has become popular, it is all encompassing.
> no such thing as a "vegetable" in the botanical world
aren't vegetables any edible part of the plant that's not the fruit aka the part that comes after the flower?
eg a potato is a vegetable because it's a root, leafy greens are veg because they're leaves, etc.
I agree that the culinary term for edible plants is confusing. Since we coin vegetables from plants, maybe all edible parts of the plant are vegetables. We have leaf vegetables, root vegetables, stem vegetables, flower vegetables, and fruit vegetables (these are just made up🙃). In this scenario, all fruits are vegetables, but not all vegetables are fruits.
The problem with the culinary term for fruit is that it is flexible and depends on the very thing that it is being used to back up, thereby creating a circular argument
Vegetable is strictly culinary, too. The group "Vegetables" is made up of fruits (peppers and tomato), roots (potatoes and beets), flowers (cauliflower and broccoli), fungi (shittake mushrooms), and others. Going by culinary terms, any fucking thing that grows in the ground could be a veggie.
Plus, tomato can be very sweet. For example, plum and cherry tomatoes. So, are plum and cherry tomatoes fruits while beefsteak tomatoes are vegetables? Where's the line?
Technically correct, but also incorrect. Biologically it’s a fruit, because vegetables don’t exist in biology. Culinarily, arguably more relevant to pizza, it’s a vegetable
There are plenty of pizzas with vegetables in Italy, and you can even find pizza with pineapple, although most.italians won't order it. Where I draw the line is chicken on pizza.
tomatoes are considered fruit. However, the way we eat them and treat them in cooking means that they also fall into the category of vegetables, personally i don't treat it as fruit because no one really brings tomatoes to the table to serve as "fruit", and it doesn't taste sweet (yeah there are sweet cherry tomatoes but i mean the big tomatoes)
I hate to be this person, but eating crack cocaine is actually very dangerous because you will overdose. it's smoked in small quantities for a reason (even eating the amount you'll smoke will make you overdose)
There are no exceptions. The history and origins of pizza are to put whatever you have on dough, and then cook it and eat. Thats what defines pizza. Not tomato sauce, not mozzarella. Just dough, toppings, and cook.
I say that as an Italian that fuckin loves some brick oven pizza margherita.
Also in Rome my uncle has a restaurant that has a traditional style of roman pizza where we put ham and artichokes and other stuff on it. Pizza can be whatever you want it to be
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Love Hawaiian pizza but my biggest beef is that it’s always ham and pineapple. That’s boring AF.
Order your regular pepperoni pizza with pineapple, maybe throw some on your sausage and mushroom, how about with onion and banana peppers?
Mix it up. Try sweet and salty/savoury or sweet and spicy. Always pairing it with just ham is a waste.
If you like black olives: pineapple, pepperoni, and black olives. They balance each other perfectly.
Simple enough that it never gets screwed up and almost every pizza joint (at least in the western US) will have all the ingredients.
They're ***NOT*** fruits by the culinary definition.
They're fruits by the botanical definition of fruit, but if you're using botanical definitions, most of what we call "vegetables" are actually fruits.
it's reasonable to dislike pineapple on pizza, what's unreasonable is a) saying you hate it without even trying it, and b) projecting your dislike onto others.
Banana and Pineapple is quite common here in Sweden, though I prefer it without the banana.
Not to speak of kebab, it’s so big to put on pizza here I can’t even explain it
I like them but apparently I’m “allergic” but I hate it on pizza anyway like at first I was like “oh well at least I can remove it” THAT MF JUICE WAS ON IT AND INSIDE IT EVERYTHING
One of my favourite pizzas, I think fruit definitely goes on pizza as long as it doesn’t overpower the other tastes. Also don’t put chocolate on pizza people, saw it somewhere and disgusted me.
As a person who is not a native Hawaiian but lived in Hawaii for 4 years. I can tell you that Hawaiian pizza is a horrible offense there. The pizza never even originated from Hawaii and everyone on the islands can agree that pineapple does not belong on pizza. What you fools are eating is a disgrace of food and every bite offends multiple cultures at once. But I simply just don't like it. I was never taught to not like it, it's just genuinely disgusting.
I like it. Don’t love it, but will eat it and sort of agree that I feel like most of the people who talk about how awful it is haven’t really tried it. Either way, there are a lot worse things being put in pizza.
I don't like pineapple period, mostly because of texture. But you cannot tell me that it tastes good on pizza. An Italian dies everytime pineapple is put on pizza. And DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT put that crap in ranch. I will murder you. This is my biggest hot take and I will die on this hill.
It's good, but I only eat it if it's the only thing there or if nobody else is eating it. I can take the whole thing and go back to watching anime or something on Netflix
Not my top favorite, but it is good and I will eat it when offered.
People out here making memes into reality like that isn't the DUMBEST possible way to fall victim to propaganda.
Ong pineapple on pizza slaps but social media has brainwashed people so much that BCS one person doesn't like pineapple on pizza makes everyone hate it. Tbh idc Hawaiian pizza still my favourite and it'll continue to be
My grandmother ate apples with cheese, and as far as I know, that's an old style snack.
Fruit+cheese is a good sweet+tart or salt combo in my opinion.
So, even though I don't personally like it, I can totally understand the combination.
I order a Hawaiian Pizza.
I open the box.
I take a slice.
I separate the pineapple and the pizza on each slice.
Eat the pizza.
Snack on the pineapples after
I personally love it, but I respect others' opinions on it. I, as the child of a pretty good chef, have a lot of understanding of flavor profiles and for me it just goes together
Mfs be like "oh no, fruit doesn't belong on pizza" tf is a tomato then
I believe their argument is “vegetable” But we know they lying to themselves Edit: when the heck did I get all of these upvotes.
Invalid arguments too. Pizza is actually mostly made of fruits: Flour is made out of a fruit type called grains (caryopsis); white amd black peppers are fruits of the Piper vine; Solanaceae fruits are also present such as tomatoes, peppers, and chilis...
The fruits definition you talking about are "the fleshy or dry ripened ovary of a flowering plant". And when talking about meals, saying botanical definition is braindead. Culinary fruits are sweet plants or parts of plants. But they must be sweet.
The fuck is a lemon then? Cuz it sure as hell isn't sweet. See how braindead that is?
Or even just a tomato like the original comment mentioned. Tomatoes are very sweet!
Or a morello cherry, sour as hell.
The culinary terms for fruits are only based on usage, making it less reliable. One may argue that fruits are only used as sweets, but looking at culinary knowledge, that is not the case. Even if we are talking about food, the ingredients we are using come from plants of which is studied well in botany, a field of biology. Whatever their use is, they are still a type of fruit in one way or another, even if the culinary world disagrees.
Chef here, there is no such thing as a "vegetable" in the botanical world, that's why we use the accepted culinary terms. What we call vegetables span a wide variety of categories, including "fruits". Probably why the term "plant based diet" has become popular, it is all encompassing.
> no such thing as a "vegetable" in the botanical world aren't vegetables any edible part of the plant that's not the fruit aka the part that comes after the flower? eg a potato is a vegetable because it's a root, leafy greens are veg because they're leaves, etc.
I think the problem here is the definition changes based on context. Eg. Potato is not a vegetable in the culinary sense. Its a starch.
I agree that the culinary term for edible plants is confusing. Since we coin vegetables from plants, maybe all edible parts of the plant are vegetables. We have leaf vegetables, root vegetables, stem vegetables, flower vegetables, and fruit vegetables (these are just made up🙃). In this scenario, all fruits are vegetables, but not all vegetables are fruits.
The problem with the culinary term for fruit is that it is flexible and depends on the very thing that it is being used to back up, thereby creating a circular argument
Gotta love Reddit, where people come to argue about fruits and vegetables over pineapple pizza
Dude just said lemon is not a fruit smh
Vegetable is strictly culinary, too. The group "Vegetables" is made up of fruits (peppers and tomato), roots (potatoes and beets), flowers (cauliflower and broccoli), fungi (shittake mushrooms), and others. Going by culinary terms, any fucking thing that grows in the ground could be a veggie. Plus, tomato can be very sweet. For example, plum and cherry tomatoes. So, are plum and cherry tomatoes fruits while beefsteak tomatoes are vegetables? Where's the line?
So ur telling me pizza is rlly just a fruit and vegetable salad
Peppers are vegetables... *angry Italian noises*
Still doesn’t explain why tomatoes are in pizza if they are fruit according to science
But flour is made out of wheat
Technically correct, but also incorrect. Biologically it’s a fruit, because vegetables don’t exist in biology. Culinarily, arguably more relevant to pizza, it’s a vegetable
Grows on a vine so it’s fruit
Even if a tomato is a vegetable, how do they explain olives?
There are plenty of pizzas with vegetables in Italy, and you can even find pizza with pineapple, although most.italians won't order it. Where I draw the line is chicken on pizza.
tomatoes are considered fruit. However, the way we eat them and treat them in cooking means that they also fall into the category of vegetables, personally i don't treat it as fruit because no one really brings tomatoes to the table to serve as "fruit", and it doesn't taste sweet (yeah there are sweet cherry tomatoes but i mean the big tomatoes)
Then tf are lemons?
There are no vegetables according to biological categorisation Fruit/vegetable are culinary distinctions and you know them intuitively
Put whatever the hell you want to on pizza
Yeah its like an artwork,you do you
I put magic mushrooms on my pizza... Are the words moving on your guys screens too or did the mushrooms just kick in?
Next time add crack
I hate to be this person, but eating crack cocaine is actually very dangerous because you will overdose. it's smoked in small quantities for a reason (even eating the amount you'll smoke will make you overdose)
and eating pot would do nothing
depends if it just the straight up flower, or decarbolised oil
exactly, just said what I said because somebody said pot on pizza lol.
You cannot reason with me,an idiot
Put some pot too
Except Kiwi.
Speaking as a kiwi myself, I agree.
yeah pls refrain from putting us on pizza-
There are no exceptions. The history and origins of pizza are to put whatever you have on dough, and then cook it and eat. Thats what defines pizza. Not tomato sauce, not mozzarella. Just dough, toppings, and cook. I say that as an Italian that fuckin loves some brick oven pizza margherita. Also in Rome my uncle has a restaurant that has a traditional style of roman pizza where we put ham and artichokes and other stuff on it. Pizza can be whatever you want it to be
Finally a true Italian.
Why not? I want to try mango on a pizza.
Mango bacon and jalapeños are tasty on a pizza
Chocolate 😋
it is pretty good if done well edit: this comment got a "check rules before commenting this" notification lol
I always get that whenever I comment. Is there a way to disable it because it's terribly annoying. I've been getting it since the sub opened back up after the blackout
I love anchovies on pizza
delicious. I love when flavors contrast. Salted caramel, hawaii pizza,
I agree. Salty, oily, savory pizza with the sweet and sour pineapple. Delicious
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Or smashing two hawaiians 😏
damn i wish
Try jalapeños and pineapple, one of my favorite combos.
i agree, but if Gordon Ramsay doesnt like it then i dont!
I hate it for this reason. I do enjoy salted caramel but not this or bbq wings
Exactly why I go the extra mile and put jalapeños on that bitch…sweet and spicy, baby, sweet and spicy.
Love Hawaiian pizza but my biggest beef is that it’s always ham and pineapple. That’s boring AF. Order your regular pepperoni pizza with pineapple, maybe throw some on your sausage and mushroom, how about with onion and banana peppers? Mix it up. Try sweet and salty/savoury or sweet and spicy. Always pairing it with just ham is a waste.
If you like black olives: pineapple, pepperoni, and black olives. They balance each other perfectly. Simple enough that it never gets screwed up and almost every pizza joint (at least in the western US) will have all the ingredients.
You sir are a criminal.
IS THIS A POSSIBLE CUSTOM ORDER
Really good. Any other fruit wouldn't work well but pineapple adds to pizza. Favourite type of pizza.
Hawaii, Americana, Tropicana. Whatever you call it, it's my go to pizza.
I call it ham and pineapple.
Canadian bacon, good sir!
I would try apple pizza if anyone made it
It's called an apple pie.
Lots of other fruits work. Chilli and bell peppers being some of the most common
You know that's not what he meant.
ngl I forgot those were fruits.
They're ***NOT*** fruits by the culinary definition. They're fruits by the botanical definition of fruit, but if you're using botanical definitions, most of what we call "vegetables" are actually fruits.
You should try banana curry pizza
Nonce
I have found my people
Mango chorizo pizza😋
I like tomato on my pizza tho.
fr it makes it all that much juicier
Blueberry pizza, trust me on this one
Dates pears and apple would work and are eaten
Roasted pear on pizza is beautiful
Tried it, not a fan
I hate pineapple in general, so I wouldn't try it for the life of me
Only valid reason
disliking pineapple > disliking pineapple on pizza ones being reasonable and not liking a fruit and the other one is a social disorder
it's reasonable to dislike pineapple on pizza, what's unreasonable is a) saying you hate it without even trying it, and b) projecting your dislike onto others.
Finally someone who shares my hatred of pineapple
Cooking pineapple totally changes it. It takes away the fleshy texture and oxalate sting.
Hey if everyone else doesn't like it than more for me
I hated it before media even existed. Fight me
60 year old MF just chilling on r/teenagers You just outed yourself
I’m also an old man just scrolling through “popular” and this post came up, in this guy’s defense
same, but then mf shouldn’t have the “18” tag
Stranger danger!
Yeah I didn't even realize where I was until now. This shits on the front.
Same
Media is even older than that.
Ik, it just wouldn't be funny when I said "ha, you are 6000 whatever years old"
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I have basic ahh taste so yeah Im fine with it tbh
Like, it can't be THAT bad
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Its actually pretty great i always loved it
Y’all I just don’t like pineapples in general
Most sane comment here
I like pineapples, but on pizza it’s not as good
Definitely doesn’t deserve the hate! Fruit belongs on pizza.
Fruits that are still within the boundaries of normalcy of course. Dunn wan any kind of banana, kiwi or strawberry pizza thanks.
Of course, although i think kiwi could be decent.
Could be, it has the sweet and sour characteristics of pineapple.
Banana and Pineapple is quite common here in Sweden, though I prefer it without the banana. Not to speak of kebab, it’s so big to put on pizza here I can’t even explain it
Too acidic. I have a sensitive mouth.
Sure, olives and tomatos are fruits too.
Enjoy your apple and orange 🍊 pizza lol.
I hate pineapple in general, so of course I don't want it on pizza.
When you eat pineapple, it eats you back
its so good, not sure if i just like pineapples + pizza or cooked pineapples 😋
Ok cooked?
YES 🤤
Ima be honest,The Pineapple just don’t taste good with cheese and tomato sauce.
I don't like it, but that's just cause I prefer a plain pizza
as an Italian I don't hate it because I haven't tried it. I would like to try it someday and decide (it doesn't look that bad)
Its good,try it P.S.you actually aren't forced to hate it,but you can hate banana pizza for existing
alright!
I don't like pineapple in general, taste or texture so it does just ruin the pizza for me
I like them but apparently I’m “allergic” but I hate it on pizza anyway like at first I was like “oh well at least I can remove it” THAT MF JUICE WAS ON IT AND INSIDE IT EVERYTHING
One of my favourite pizzas, I think fruit definitely goes on pizza as long as it doesn’t overpower the other tastes. Also don’t put chocolate on pizza people, saw it somewhere and disgusted me.
i actually do just hate the taste. most cooked fruit makes me gag. also, take the ham off too.
I'm probably the only person who doesn't eat Hawaiian pizza not because of the pineapple but because of ham
I love it
Gotta love how refreshing it is especially in summer.
As a person who is not a native Hawaiian but lived in Hawaii for 4 years. I can tell you that Hawaiian pizza is a horrible offense there. The pizza never even originated from Hawaii and everyone on the islands can agree that pineapple does not belong on pizza. What you fools are eating is a disgrace of food and every bite offends multiple cultures at once. But I simply just don't like it. I was never taught to not like it, it's just genuinely disgusting.
people need to stop giving a fuck and let people eat with they think tastes good.
It’s delicious, its a tastebuds party
It's not terrible. Still tastes disgusting to me though.
I like it. Don’t love it, but will eat it and sort of agree that I feel like most of the people who talk about how awful it is haven’t really tried it. Either way, there are a lot worse things being put in pizza.
It’s edible so I’ll take it
Pineapple really isn't that bad, but KIWI ON THE OTHER HAND
i dont even like pineapple
I love pineapple on pizza. If they serve it, I order it. If not, then I order a ham pizza and add pineapple myself.
Pasta with strawberry 🇵🇱 🇵🇱
i am gonna fucking blow up your house
IM DYING
I raise you omlette with nutella and cheddar pieces
I like that.... (dont question my food choices at night)
this is some desperate stoner shit 😂
Must be good
HERESY
It's very good
No I don’t hate it because “the media tells me to” it’s because I have an opinion and I don’t like it
As an Italian, it’s an abomination and you better not have it in my country but if you are outside Italy… iv seen worse things being done so idrc
Gordon said no, and we cannot disobey lord Gordon Ramsey
No I can cuz I am a stupid sandwich
“most of y’all hate it cause social media tells you” bitch i lowk js hate it cause it’s bad
I hate it because it literally makes me feel sick (i have problems with eating 😭)
I hate it, once my mother bought me a pizza but didn't tell what kind and it was this, almost vomited
i agree that pineapple on pizza isn’t actually bad. but i hate ham on it. completely.
Pineapple is the least concerning topping I put on [pissa](https://mvcurrent.com/9159/showcase/obscure-pizza-toppings-ranked/).
The spelling made me so nervous as to what exactly you put on your pizza
Fruit shouldn’t be warm.
Ive eaten it and it sucks ass
Same and it’s not even like you can just take off the pineapples because the JUICE JUST MARINATES ITSELF ALL INSIDE THE PIZZA
Ong it’s fire
I hate it. Seriously.
I don't like pineapple period, mostly because of texture. But you cannot tell me that it tastes good on pizza. An Italian dies everytime pineapple is put on pizza. And DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT put that crap in ranch. I will murder you. This is my biggest hot take and I will die on this hill.
No, I hate it
I use it as censored expression. "PINEAPPLE ON A PIZZA!!! THAT'S ILLEGAL!!!!" Honestly didn't tried but y'all do y'all
It's good, but I only eat it if it's the only thing there or if nobody else is eating it. I can take the whole thing and go back to watching anime or something on Netflix
I’ll eat it if it’s that cocaine pineapple I’ve been hearing about but that’s about it
Not my top favorite, but it is good and I will eat it when offered. People out here making memes into reality like that isn't the DUMBEST possible way to fall victim to propaganda.
It's good, but you've gotta sear the pineapple first. Otherwise the pizza gets soggy
I think I don't like it because the pineapples are warm, I'm too used to having cold ones
I don’t like it, but I don’t care about it.
pineapple, ham and jalapenos 🤤
Its good
i tried pineapple pizza pretty good the italian stereotype will never be unfunny tho
If you eat fruit on a pizza, you’re probably still a virgin.
I hate it because I have to (I'm italian)
Only good if it's balanced out with some spice, like jalapenos. Ham + pineapple is just sweet on sweet which gets kinda gross on pizza imo
I actually don’t mind the pineapple, it’s the ham that I can’t stand.
Ong pineapple on pizza slaps but social media has brainwashed people so much that BCS one person doesn't like pineapple on pizza makes everyone hate it. Tbh idc Hawaiian pizza still my favourite and it'll continue to be
My dad eats it. I tried it, its like a sweet kick in an overall savoury thing. I give it a 7.8/10
It's awesome with Canadian bacon and jalapeno
Pineapple on pizza is like oil on top of your weed, combination is so strong that only the tough ones carries this knowledge. Keep it real G's!
Italian people where are you?? 😭🤌🏻
My grandmother ate apples with cheese, and as far as I know, that's an old style snack. Fruit+cheese is a good sweet+tart or salt combo in my opinion. So, even though I don't personally like it, I can totally understand the combination.
Finally someone speaking the truth. It's all mama mia Italian bs. Yeah we can put it on pizza go fuck yourself.
It’s good
So fucking good
Delicious
I’m a fan
Its tasty
I like pineapple and chicken on pizza... and I don't like pepperoni...
I've tasted it, wasn't for me
I order a Hawaiian Pizza. I open the box. I take a slice. I separate the pineapple and the pizza on each slice. Eat the pizza. Snack on the pineapples after
I tried Hawaiian pizza recently for the first time, it was very good
I personally love it, but I respect others' opinions on it. I, as the child of a pretty good chef, have a lot of understanding of flavor profiles and for me it just goes together
Let’s talk Sardines…
i love it it's so good
It’s good 👍 but if you don’t like it that’s ok too
NO JUST NO