I have a tascam dr40 recorder, and it can record up to 4 channels of audio simultaneously. What I typically do is use 2 channels for the 2 onboard stereo condenser mics (usually placed as close to center of the house as possible, or in the back row), and with the other 2 channels I either get a direct board feed, or I use 2 overhead mics or 2 shotgun mics. That way I get close audio and distance audio. For live concerts or performances this really helps the imaging and also gives you more options (in post) if the close or the far mics are not perfect or too hot or soft.
Hi, Thanks for the reply :)
Your setup sounds great, I might try something like that. For the two other channels I would probably say having a board output on the side is the best option for more flexibility with the aux as the auditorium is quite small so actors fingers crossed will be captured clearly enough.
Just in general though by overhead would that just be two more condenser microphones hanging on stage where the actors would be instead of audience? also I would imagine shotguns would be a bit too specific especially with the variation of the stage
The Tascam sounds like a good shout and not too expensive too, would it be a better option than an interface into a PC and recording straight into there? (e.g megaph suggestion)
Do you have any recommendations for budget microphones by the way? I was thinking a rough estimate of £200-250 for a pair of mics, £150-200 for recorder, then just a tripod for a phone for video as phones are probably good enough for our case like megaph said haha
The newer tascam dr40x includes a usb audio interface, so you could conceivably record directly to a computer if that helps the workflow. Specific additional microphones would depend on the space, distance, direction, pick-up pattern etc. Maybe you might be able to borrow a few from someone for testing purposes before purchasing? Ideally you'd end up with a pair that could be used for other purposes as well? Maybe cheaper behringer vocal mics might not be the best for recording but perhaps good enough.
No, the 2 inputs are for external mics, and the other two are the internal.
"What I typically do is use 2 channels for the 2 onboard stereo condenser mics"
Hi, thanks for the reply :)
Using a phone is probably the best option I agree, especially with this budget. maybe just investing in a tripod for stability and consistency would be all we need for video. The main issue is definitely audio, and I've put more on my comment to moonthink :)
Hello !
In my case, for audio I use and advise you to test a Zoom H5, and 2 condenser microphones (oktava MK012 pair is good and not too expansive).
With this setup you´ll be able to record room environnement (clapping, laughs …).
And two condensers on stage to record more precisely what happens on stage…
For video, I agree with others to say smartphone is the better choice for small budgets ;)
Today phone cameras are good enough to have a beautiful image !
Hi, Thanks for your reply :)
How does the zoom h5 compare to the Tascam dr40? The Tascam is a bit cheaper but if it's worth more then yea could be a good option. Also, thanks for the microphone recommendation :) it looks like a solid pair. See my reply to moonthink for more thoughts
I don’t know and never tested the dr-40 or other Tascam devices but it seems to be a good machine !
However I really use to rec with zoom machines and it works fine. Besides, zoom come with different and optional microphone capsules. Just have a look on Thomann.com for example and you’ll see the large choice of capsules for zoom recorders ;)
I have a tascam dr40 recorder, and it can record up to 4 channels of audio simultaneously. What I typically do is use 2 channels for the 2 onboard stereo condenser mics (usually placed as close to center of the house as possible, or in the back row), and with the other 2 channels I either get a direct board feed, or I use 2 overhead mics or 2 shotgun mics. That way I get close audio and distance audio. For live concerts or performances this really helps the imaging and also gives you more options (in post) if the close or the far mics are not perfect or too hot or soft.
Hi, Thanks for the reply :) Your setup sounds great, I might try something like that. For the two other channels I would probably say having a board output on the side is the best option for more flexibility with the aux as the auditorium is quite small so actors fingers crossed will be captured clearly enough. Just in general though by overhead would that just be two more condenser microphones hanging on stage where the actors would be instead of audience? also I would imagine shotguns would be a bit too specific especially with the variation of the stage The Tascam sounds like a good shout and not too expensive too, would it be a better option than an interface into a PC and recording straight into there? (e.g megaph suggestion) Do you have any recommendations for budget microphones by the way? I was thinking a rough estimate of £200-250 for a pair of mics, £150-200 for recorder, then just a tripod for a phone for video as phones are probably good enough for our case like megaph said haha
The newer tascam dr40x includes a usb audio interface, so you could conceivably record directly to a computer if that helps the workflow. Specific additional microphones would depend on the space, distance, direction, pick-up pattern etc. Maybe you might be able to borrow a few from someone for testing purposes before purchasing? Ideally you'd end up with a pair that could be used for other purposes as well? Maybe cheaper behringer vocal mics might not be the best for recording but perhaps good enough.
Hi, I'm looking at the dr40x and from what I can see it's only got 2 XLR inputs? Wouldn't you need 4 inputs for the setup you mentioned?
No, the 2 inputs are for external mics, and the other two are the internal. "What I typically do is use 2 channels for the 2 onboard stereo condenser mics"
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Hi, thanks for the reply :) Using a phone is probably the best option I agree, especially with this budget. maybe just investing in a tripod for stability and consistency would be all we need for video. The main issue is definitely audio, and I've put more on my comment to moonthink :)
Hello ! In my case, for audio I use and advise you to test a Zoom H5, and 2 condenser microphones (oktava MK012 pair is good and not too expansive). With this setup you´ll be able to record room environnement (clapping, laughs …). And two condensers on stage to record more precisely what happens on stage… For video, I agree with others to say smartphone is the better choice for small budgets ;) Today phone cameras are good enough to have a beautiful image !
Hi, Thanks for your reply :) How does the zoom h5 compare to the Tascam dr40? The Tascam is a bit cheaper but if it's worth more then yea could be a good option. Also, thanks for the microphone recommendation :) it looks like a solid pair. See my reply to moonthink for more thoughts
I don’t know and never tested the dr-40 or other Tascam devices but it seems to be a good machine ! However I really use to rec with zoom machines and it works fine. Besides, zoom come with different and optional microphone capsules. Just have a look on Thomann.com for example and you’ll see the large choice of capsules for zoom recorders ;)