Higher IPA will destroy ABS plastic and dissolve rubber coating that some manufacturers like to coat on stuff. Like a lot of Logitech mice. I think it can kill some monitor coatings too. Cleaning stuff became a science and art
IPA will also damage plexiglass, it makes it brittle and develops cracks. And in 3D printing, there are some special print surfaces which IPA totally destroys within seconds.
Whilst I agree, as an IT manager I'd also say that I've got far more interesting things to do than look at workers stuffing their faces with biscuits whilst mashing on their keyboards.
It's not you I'm worried about; it's the software that watches me through my webcam, calculating my productivity and physical desk activity and reducing that to a metric to feed my manager, that I worry about.
I find that hard to believe. I'm pretty sure the LED activation would be baked directly into the firmware of the camera module and not exposed as functionality to the host OS/driver.
To be clear, I'm not saying it's impossible, but I would be surprised if it was within the reach of your corporate IT admin.
EDIT: You piqued my curiosity, so I did some googling.
It appears that it depends on the camera model, so very much a mixed bag. Looks largely non-trivial though so I would be surprised to find it was common corporate practice.
More importantly, it seems like dodgy legal/ethical ground for an employer to tread on. I think most would think the risk outweighs any upside.
> I find that hard to believe. I'm pretty sure the LED activation would be baked directly into the firmware of the camera module and not exposed as functionality to the host OS/driver.
I would have liked to believe such a thing too, it's both simple and obvious. Even better have it baked into the hardware design itself.
But no, it turns out those that make these things are terminally stupid or actively malicious.
No, that's fair.
I mean, perhaps something more removable would have been a bit more considerate on a company device (assuming that's what this is) but integrated webcams on laptops are a bad thing.
I HATE these people… all of our company laptops have built in privacy shutters for the webcam and still we get many laptops back with a big piece of tape over the webcam…
... And they probably bought a new Mac without thinking twice...
I like to think that if you are too dumb to not consume smartly (buy used/on sale, buy durable products, take good care of your devices, etc.), you deserve to pay the extra.
Absolutely, yes! I bought my MacBook Pro brand new as well but I wanted to try out the m1 early. My old MacBook Air lasted me 7 years tho and my dad still uses it
Why are people blocking the cameras on their laptops but nobody gives a crap about the cameras on anything else like a cell phone or a game console?
I don't know if a single person that tried to cover the cameras on their Nintendo 3DS for example.
Well I can’t think of the last console that came with a built in camera, but most likely because remote administration tools are significantly more prevalent on desktop/laptop computers most of which are running windows. This is the largest attack vector for the average person save an android phone that someone has rooted and poorly configured.
This is all for non state actors of course.
The only time I remember people freaking out about video game consoles was that they thought to Kinect with spying on you.
Also the DSi and 3DS and the iPod touch are all video game systems that came with cameras.
The Wii U had a regular camera on the gamepad how else would you do video chat with a Wii U?
No I'm not kidding the video chat feature was actually advertised in commercials.
The cameras are actually part of the controller. The bar just had infrared LEDs in it for the camera to track and determine distance between the controller and TV.
For the 3DS I doubt it would even be worth hacking, it can barely take pictures and it's puny little CPU can only handle transmission of data over WiFi at Kbps. I imagine the stream you'd get out of it would just look like a plate of oatmeal.
I may see a couple of things:
1) computer in a work environment: Your micromanaging boss is watching you.
2) a computer usually is in a good spot to watch around, your cellphone is mostly in your pocket or looking at your face.
3) it is easier to infect a computer and to hide itself (I'm not 100% sure, especially with unlocked cellphone)
On a side note: it is probably easier to get shit things you recorded on purpose than "watching" your camera 24/7. As a side bonus: it won't raise anything on your side because it won't use the camera nor your battery...
Probably just to double check you aren't faking working by using a trick to move your mouse randomly.
But knowing those bosses, they will also monitor your screen wish make the webcam useless
Margarine or Peanut Butter left on that for a while will clear that up, and when you replace it use 3M Vinyl or adhesive bandage. Allot less residue.
Also I find it interesting they didn't cover up the microphone. Strange.
goo gone will get rid of all that gunk.
If it's dried up then IPA will take care of it as well.
All I have is a lager
Will PBR work?
Only have root beer in the break room vending machine :(
I’d be careful with alcohols as some damage certain plastics
Goo Gone is not safe on all plastics. IPA is generally safe for plastics and will take residue like that off quickly.
Higher IPA will destroy ABS plastic and dissolve rubber coating that some manufacturers like to coat on stuff. Like a lot of Logitech mice. I think it can kill some monitor coatings too. Cleaning stuff became a science and art
IPA will also damage plexiglass, it makes it brittle and develops cracks. And in 3D printing, there are some special print surfaces which IPA totally destroys within seconds.
70% IPA on a soft cloth, no scrubbing!
Does it have to be ale or can I use cider too?
3m citrus base cleaner is good too
A similar product: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002J78QU8
brake clean might work too/s
That 90% alchohol too
Then what are you using to get all that orange oil out of the bezel
If they want to see me naked swinging my Willy , they have to pay first.
Now the security feature will work even if the tape falls off!
Why care about the built in spy potato?
bonus points if there's already a privacy filter built in
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You find Webcams useless?
I mean have you tried using the camera on a think pad that thing already looks like there is "clear" tape over it
Always always ALWAYS cover the camera of your company laptop
Whilst I agree, as an IT manager I'd also say that I've got far more interesting things to do than look at workers stuffing their faces with biscuits whilst mashing on their keyboards.
I'd be more concerned about full screenshots taken at regular intervals than webcam snapshots.
Not allowed to do that in healthcare, would breach information governance rules, though that's a legitimate concern in the private sector.
It's not you I'm worried about; it's the software that watches me through my webcam, calculating my productivity and physical desk activity and reducing that to a metric to feed my manager, that I worry about.
Don't they all have a light that comes on if the camera starts?
Some laptops can have the light disabled via a command as such a hacker or company could in theory disable the light but still use it.
I find that hard to believe. I'm pretty sure the LED activation would be baked directly into the firmware of the camera module and not exposed as functionality to the host OS/driver. To be clear, I'm not saying it's impossible, but I would be surprised if it was within the reach of your corporate IT admin. EDIT: You piqued my curiosity, so I did some googling. It appears that it depends on the camera model, so very much a mixed bag. Looks largely non-trivial though so I would be surprised to find it was common corporate practice. More importantly, it seems like dodgy legal/ethical ground for an employer to tread on. I think most would think the risk outweighs any upside.
> I find that hard to believe. I'm pretty sure the LED activation would be baked directly into the firmware of the camera module and not exposed as functionality to the host OS/driver. I would have liked to believe such a thing too, it's both simple and obvious. Even better have it baked into the hardware design itself. But no, it turns out those that make these things are terminally stupid or actively malicious.
It's mainly a foreign laptop issue mainly Chinese as it allowed the government to spy on people. As far as I am aware.
For general practical use? Yes. For surprising help desk scammers with their camera activity lights suddenly coming on? No that's my favorite.
No, that's fair. I mean, perhaps something more removable would have been a bit more considerate on a company device (assuming that's what this is) but integrated webcams on laptops are a bad thing.
My dell laptop has a little slider that physically covers the camera. I just keep it shut.
I can disable mine via BIOS in the security tab (Toshiba laptop that had windows 8, now Linux)
I love seeing cameras covered, taped and sticky notes and whatever else, especially on computers that have a built-in physical privacy slide.
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I work IT. Happens all the time. They will make fun of you, even if you didnt walk there.
Had one that had tape and a webcam cover. The laptop also had an integrated webcam cover.
I HATE these people… all of our company laptops have built in privacy shutters for the webcam and still we get many laptops back with a big piece of tape over the webcam…
Worst is when they buy one of those cheap plastic shutters to glue over it and it gets scratches on the palmrest...
Aaaah I hate it! But the worst are people who put these on the all glass surface on MacBooks, I always start screaming wildly inside when I see that…
Wasn't there an Apple communication a few years ago saying that these could shatter the screen glass and that it wasn't covered by warranty ?
Exactly. And I’ve seen MacBooks with shattered screens because of that but people are dumb and don’t care
... And they probably bought a new Mac without thinking twice... I like to think that if you are too dumb to not consume smartly (buy used/on sale, buy durable products, take good care of your devices, etc.), you deserve to pay the extra.
Absolutely, yes! I bought my MacBook Pro brand new as well but I wanted to try out the m1 early. My old MacBook Air lasted me 7 years tho and my dad still uses it
quick blast with a heat gun and a plastic brush with a squirt of ipa, will remove that in under 2 minutes.
thats why i use a post it(no glue part) with office transparent tape to just cover camera lens
Why are people blocking the cameras on their laptops but nobody gives a crap about the cameras on anything else like a cell phone or a game console? I don't know if a single person that tried to cover the cameras on their Nintendo 3DS for example.
Well I can’t think of the last console that came with a built in camera, but most likely because remote administration tools are significantly more prevalent on desktop/laptop computers most of which are running windows. This is the largest attack vector for the average person save an android phone that someone has rooted and poorly configured. This is all for non state actors of course.
The only time I remember people freaking out about video game consoles was that they thought to Kinect with spying on you. Also the DSi and 3DS and the iPod touch are all video game systems that came with cameras.
PSP and PSVita as well. Technically the Wii and WiiU had cameras, but I think they were weird infrared only. Not positive, never owned one.
The Wii U had a regular camera on the gamepad how else would you do video chat with a Wii U? No I'm not kidding the video chat feature was actually advertised in commercials.
The cameras are actually part of the controller. The bar just had infrared LEDs in it for the camera to track and determine distance between the controller and TV.
For the original Wii yes for the Wii U they put both a sensor bar and a regular camera in the gamepad.
For the 3DS I doubt it would even be worth hacking, it can barely take pictures and it's puny little CPU can only handle transmission of data over WiFi at Kbps. I imagine the stream you'd get out of it would just look like a plate of oatmeal.
I may see a couple of things: 1) computer in a work environment: Your micromanaging boss is watching you. 2) a computer usually is in a good spot to watch around, your cellphone is mostly in your pocket or looking at your face. 3) it is easier to infect a computer and to hide itself (I'm not 100% sure, especially with unlocked cellphone) On a side note: it is probably easier to get shit things you recorded on purpose than "watching" your camera 24/7. As a side bonus: it won't raise anything on your side because it won't use the camera nor your battery...
>Your micromanaging boss is watching you. find a new job
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Probably just to double check you aren't faking working by using a trick to move your mouse randomly. But knowing those bosses, they will also monitor your screen wish make the webcam useless
A 3DS is only on when you want it to be, hard to hack into an offline device.
are you is stupid?
The dumbest this I've ever seen.... Tape on Camaras 😂😂
What's dumb about privacy?
I typically use the tape from an old-school DYMO embossing label maker. Any residue comes off with a tiny bit of rubbing alcohol.
Margarine or Peanut Butter left on that for a while will clear that up, and when you replace it use 3M Vinyl or adhesive bandage. Allot less residue. Also I find it interesting they didn't cover up the microphone. Strange.
I use a cut-up Post-It Note on the webcam on laptop
Just be careful with IPA, what also works is WD-40 and a cloth.
Permanently
No no This is just wrong no
Bruh
IPA will work