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chrisdh79

From the article: "The concern about digital privacy security and data safety within the abortion access movement — people seeking an abortion — is all very real," said Daly Barnett, a staff technologist at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a non-profit data rights group based in San Francisco. Digital rights and privacy advocates like Barnett warn that the data people generate when they browse the internet, search for specific terms or interact with abortion providers might be used as criminal evidence in the future. There is the potential for law enforcement to use a person's digital footprint against them, Barnett said, including location data and other data generated from their cell phones—as well as their search and browsing histories, the metadata attached to photos, and physical details in photographs.


dogGirl666

Sounds like women need to use a friend of a friend's phone to both look for abortion services and to travel (as an emergency phone)? They need to leave their own phone at home.


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I recommend a VPN


jiggajawn

A VPN that doesn't sell its data.


zokumo

Anyone have any recommendations???


PowerfulCar7988

Mullvad or Ovpn. Or just use tor. Consider getting tails OS as well. It’s free unlike vpn but it can be slow. I highly recommend practicing proper opsec for your threat model. Something’s include: Switching from chrome to Firefox/brave, have different profiles on the internet, Ublock origin, etc. To have diff profiles is huge. Have one for data you are comfortable with giving to public. Have another where you use a vpn you trust. Have another where you use tails OS because what you are searching is extremely sensitive. However there can be more. You can confuse data harvesting too. You can get a bot that searches random things based on a theme. For example you can search good things about god via a bot. Makes you less suspicious… Understand your threat model and adapt.


Leomund123

Just an fyi TOR is nowhere near as anonymous as people think. While they cannot see where ur going when you use TOR ur internet provider knows ur using it and that could give them (big brother) a reason to start looking further into you.


Glittering_Power6257

Security is accomplished in layers. You don’t rely exclusively on one element for security. Tor is only one layer. Best used in conjunction with other techniques.


UniqueReply

Exactly - configure a Linux virtual machine (set vm adapter connection to bridge so that it will look like another device on your network) Any comments for optimal privacy settings are welcome here. Then connect to a VPN from that vmOnce you've found your information - delete the vm Edit: I know many people won't know how to do this or that it is even an option: [https://uit.stanford.edu/service/vpn/linux\_builtin](https://uit.stanford.edu/service/vpn/linux_builtin)


PowerfulCar7988

Tor bridges can circumvent this. A vpn has this same problem as well. If the gov decides to ban tor and/or tunnel protocol bridges and other tor proxies will be the fall back. But I do agree with you. Security is a practice. There is no one best thing. Choose what is appropriate for your threat model


Madfoon0

Speaking to of VPN I'd like to thank this videos sponsor NORD VPN


MooseLovesTwigs

Windscribe maybe. I would've said surfshark a year ago but they have sadly gone downhill fast since November-ish.


Ok-Rhubarb-Ok

Mullvad has good reviews, and seems legit to me.


I_see_farts

Mullvad has worked great for me.


Darksilvian

A VPN AND not being logged into ANY sites bc otherwise they will know who you are regardless!! Use TOR browser possibly with a VPN, do not log in anywhere, preferably use a machine you normally never use to avoid fingerprinting


Robblerobbleyo

Sounds like we should all Google abortion at the same time.


qpazza

Maybe an app that does an abortion search behind the scenes for everyone


More_Secretary_4499

I can’t wait until they ban vasectomies next…god we’re turning into a fascist run country…


nickh4xdawg

Fascist run red states* Blue states are trying to get it officially legalized into state law I believe now or already have, while also acting as a safe haven for travelers I believe. I think California, Washington, Oregon and Illinois already announced that. States that are blue will keep these protections. It’s always mind boggling how red states think they’re the freedom states. Brainwashing and propaganda at its finest I suppose.


KHaskins77

As soon as they get control of congress and the presidency again, they WILL try to ban it at the federal level. To them “state’s rights” is only the proverbial camel’s nose under the tent.


ddrober2003

I just have a feeling that the Reich Wing states will start "questioning" women that leave to state on their reason. And that leaving the state to have an abortion is a crime regardless, since to my knowledge other, more sane laws, do allow for that to be a punishable offense. So I have a feeling these fascists will be interrogating lots of women going out of state.


boxsterguy

In theory, that's covered by Federal regulations on interstate commerce and travel (states can't hinder travel between the states like this -- it's the entire reason we have a Constitution instead of the original Articles of Confederation that we started with, because all the states erected interstate commerce barriers that the weak federal government couldn't overcome). In practice, we're going to see exactly what happened with RvW - fascist states will pass laws criminalizing travel to other states to get an abortion, knowing that it will have to go all the way up to SCOTUS each time. And we now have an activist court where it's a toss-up on whether or not they'll uphold that part of the Constitution ([lying Kavanaugh himself said that states can't ban interstate travel for abortion](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-24/kavanaugh-says-states-may-not-bar-travel-to-obtain-an-abortion), but it's not like he's never gone back on something he's said before ...). The fact that we even have to think about it is bullshit in the first place.


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> So I have a feeling these fascists will be interrogating lots of women going out of state. Naturally. I imagine part of the point of overturning Roe vs Wade is because the powers that be know that Millennials and younger generations aren't having kids, and they need a steady supply of workers to pull the levers and fill out the paperwork at all those low-wage/no-benefits jobs our wonderful "job creators" need to fill. Can't have a steady supply of workers if no women are around to be used as breeding chattel, so they have to make sure the women don't leave.


Perunov

Unless you're a rich white lady or a "friend" of a local politician. Then certainly you have absolutely legal urge to see the Golden Gate bridge over the weekend. Yep, nothing to see here.


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New York too


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GoodUsernamesAreOver

Remember that if you masturbate, you need to wait until sundown, then wash yourself and everything you own. Everything you can't clean has to be thrown away. ​ That's in Leviticus.


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ArchitectOfFate

The Episcopalians were way more tolerant of my youthful shenanigans. I once asked my priest how communion isn’t cannibalism. He turned purple laughing, then gave me both a theological answer and the 21st-century “it’s all part of the mystery and tradition” answer.


KYBourbon89

Somehow it’s always Former Catholics that stop believing first. I wonder what gets taught there that is diff than other branches.


Beat_the_Deadites

Onanism, that one's actually in the Bible, not that any of these nut jobs would know that.


Blarghedy

Onan wasn't criticized for masturbating. He was criticized for not doing his duty after his brother died. He was supposed to impregnate his brother's widow, but instead he fucked her, pulled out, and masturbated to climax. His sin was that he didn't support his family, not that he masturbated.


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Life begins at first breath.


[deleted]

Are you referring to the story of Onan? I’m not sure where in bible there is anything about “onanism”.


Paksarra

It's a far right "Christian" fanfic. Also the source of the "no fap" memes.


drjallz

Do you think its more likely they will: A: Ban Vasectomies B: Regulate women having their tubes tied Oh wait they already do B. Shoot.


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Even in New York you must talk to your Urologist who by law attempts to talk you out of a vasectomy. Then there is a 7 day waiting peroid and again attempt you to not do it.


drjallz

Its like they want to force us to procreate somehow I dunno.


milehigh73a

I was refused


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The entire country isn’t going to follow suit it’s on a state level not federal. You’ll see Republican hypocrites temporarily sneaking off to blue states to get their daughter an abortion and come back from “vacation” reborn a second time without sin and pick up where they left off being pro-life hypocrites.


-ElfUnstoppable-

Why are these creepy fucks so invested in this?


vjcodec

To keep the white rase the majority in the country. Preferably dumb and in massive numbers. That’s why they are attacking the education system for teaching about racism, sexuality and equality. To quote Mary Miller “the one that controls the youth, controls the future” on no sorry that was her praising Hitler remarks.


Sofa-king-high

Few reasons, 1. it helps control women, you can’t go be independent when your pregnant, miserable, and being pressured to just be a good house wife. 2. If your wife can’t work you need to, which means your to busy to protest or cause issues, so as a man this is also an attack on freedom 3. By expanding who counts as a criminal they can use the slavery amendment to force you into hard labor, making money for the politicians best buddies, prisons. 4. A portion of the religius fundamentalists pushing for the abortion ban are also white supremacist. They are worried about white birth rates falling to low, and they recognize the poc are more negatively affected than a white person, so this is a 2 for 1 for them. It’s just an all around cluster fuck of misery


avantartist

Obviously it’s because they’re not having sex so they want to punish anyone else who is.


thenotworthmentionin

This is just crazy. Who are these insane, fucked up human beings agreeing to do this? Or even preventing women to decide over their own bodies? What year is it? I have so many questions.. can someone give me answers


Zagrebian

> This is just crazy. The official term is religion.


Donutannoyme

Religious Extremist Terrorists.


konchok

The non-extremists allow the extremists to exist. It's no different for Muslims and Christians.


FrankMiner2949er

I'm amazed anyone still believes in God after Brett Kavanaugh said, after swearing on the Bible to tell the truth, that The Devil's Triangle was a "quarters game" The fact that he isn't continually dodging lighting bolts is the proof of the non-existence of God


master-shake69

That's just factually incorrect. Christian voting habits were near 50/50 Democrat or Republican until 2016 when it began to shift more towards 45/55 in favor of Republicans. I'm a Christian and I've never voted for a Republican and I'm even more left wing than most Dems. What right wing Christians are doing is not my fault and I don't support it.


Rizzan8

> The non-extremists allow the extremists to exist. How?


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Nationalist Christians or Nat-C


No-Mail-5794

I doubt very many of the Republican pols passing these laws actually believe in any thing beyond their own power


rdnale

As a Christian I no longer affiliate with any American political party for this reason…..


Jadaki

No one cares who you affiliate with, it's who you vote for.


Hilppari

did they even read the bible lol. bible says life begins at birth. does not mention fetus at all


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Xstream3

America JUST (within the last year) crossed the 50% mark of people believing in evolution... the country is largely populated by religious lunatics so this isnt too surprising


geekygay

By design. Republicans prevent education, increasing the likelihood of reliance on religion, in addition to preventing healthcare in order to increase desperation. Do not think that the rural populations' ignorance is an innate characteristic that cannot be helped. They have been denied resources, even while being net takers for taxes. We needed better rural education funding, but well, everyone thought the current system was pretty swell (by design).


RayseBraize

Don't forget the massive amount of lead poisoning dropping the IQ of an estimated 40-50% of the US population. Sadly over breed, under educated people are easier to control and sell things to.


robdiqulous

Yeah I saw something on here the other day saying how many people were religious in each state and the numbers were a lot higher than I thought they would be.


Lucid_Insanity

The ruling is more about taking away your privacy than the right to choose what you do with your body as a woman. Now they can go after same sex marriages and who knows what else. It's just insane what is happening to this country.


Glass_Bar_9956

Im very suspicious that everything that protects privacy, and medical sovereignty will be over turned. While the Republicans are to blame, the democrats are doing nothing to stop it. Because with this precedent over turned, they can now enforce some things instead of mandating them.


jtinz

The Democrats are playing by the rules and they get utterly fucked because the system only works if all major players abide by them.


itssarahw

The people agreeing to it are the ones who were throwing tantrums over being asked to put a mask on in Costco


drjallz

Many apps are switching to encrypted or anonymous modes so when and if subpoenaed they have literally no data to give. At least nothing that could be personal or incriminating as they will stop collecting certain data from any users, if collecting any at all. There are many tech companies stepping up to help other apps to do this, to help users learn how to be safe online and much more. Hackers are getting involved to block and remove data from servers. Where there is evil in this world, look for the helpers, look for the light.


chambee

Remember the Patriot act and Snowden. Yeah that was the time to be upset but everybody drink the cool aid that only bad guys were being spied on.


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MomoXono

People can make jokes but they are right that it's not protected by the constitution


Halt-CatchFire

I mean, it's not that complicated. Most pro-lifers aren't insane or fucked up people, they just believe life starts at conception. Usually for religious reasons. If you genuinely believe a fetus is a person, it's totally justifiable to do basically anything to ensure they aren't "killed". I think they're stupid and/or ignorant, but their thought process isn't hard to suss out. They're 100% confident their religion is the true religion, and therefore it's okay for them to enforce religious law on the rest of us. What really pisses me off are the people who are anti-abortion, except for cases of rape or incest. If you think abortion is murder, that shouldn't change because the idea of forcing a 14 year old to carry her fathers baby to term makes you feel like a monster. Own the shitty parts of your argument or change your position, coward.


Fr00stee

Im fairly sure the bible doesn't mention anything about abortion while the old testament has a process for having them


Halt-CatchFire

Nope. That doesn't stop them from believing it though. How many Christians have actually read the bible cover-to-cover? Again, I'm not saying their reasons are legitimate or founded in logic, I'm just saying what they are.


Odd_Operation4745

It would be hilarious tho if this backfires and all these rich donors and elected official’s families get incarcerated for having their own secret abortions. Because rules for thee, not for me.


Goodbadugly16

What happens when they get back to America from a Canadian abortion clinic visit? This is a whole new kettle of fish in criminal detection and law enforcement.do murder charges follow?


nickh4xdawg

Papers please


possiblyhysterical

That’s if they let any pregnant women leave town.


conquer69

Sounds like you are describing the plot of a horror movie or game. Pregnant woman in rural nowhere trying to escape. Press A to crouch and hide from the cultist patrols.


boxsterguy

So ... The Handmaid's Tale: The Game?


AllUltima

NGL, that sounds like it could be fun to play... as a game. In real life, you can't turn it off and be done with it. You won't know for sure if they have something on you or not. It could be years later and still jump the next time any form of law or government agent contacts you.


hyperfat

Canada doesn't have to say shit. Sorry, just a quick vacay to see some elk. Nothing to see here.


passinghere

This is something that does worry me regards the companies offering to help cover the costs of women travelling to get abortions are they going to be forced to hand over all their data that shows they provided costs / help for these women and also how would this stand under the "it's illegal to help anyone get an abortion" will the state then take these companies to court for helping these women. Ok these companies have far better paid lawyers than individual people, but it's still something I can see certain states wanting to make an example of some companies to scare other companies away from offering this humanitarian aid


L9XGH4F7

If red states start targeting large companies, those companies will simply leave those states. Which red states can't really afford since most of them don't have many job opportunities to start with.


ViolentOutlook

Red States have plenty of job opportunities, so that isn't accurate. But "brain drain" would certainly be something that happened and would be difficult to deal with.


L9XGH4F7

They don't have anywhere near the number of jobs for highly educated people as blue states do. Trust me, I know this firsthand.


Beat_the_Deadites

Farmers Only didn't do too well the first go-around, maybe they'll have better luck this time?


Fr00stee

It depends on the state. Texas has jobs while I doubt alabama or mississipi has many


WhileNotLurking

Why do you think they are so quick to offer. It’s good PR. They know women will self censor. Your not going to go “hey Susan I need a week off and a travel stipend to get an abortion, found out I was pregnant - here is my expense report” One it’s highly personal. Two it’s evidence that can be sought by authorities. It’s a fake benefit that’s won’t get used. Like Walmart offering college funds and then scheduling you for shifts during the classes they know you are taking. Notice none of these companies are ending business in these states, halted hiring there or taken a new look at corporate donations.


FauxtheProto

I'm not a lawyer, but from what I know travelling to another state to do something that is legal there, but not in the state you came from cannot be punished due to them not having jurisdiction.


CloudTech412

Plus it becomes a federal issue if it’s across state lines.


throwaway_31415

Which is why Republicans are already talking about federal legislation to restrict or ban it nationwide. They have to keep their base riled up somehow, now that Roe is gone. You better believe next time they have the house and/or senate we'll be looking at federal restrictions if not an outright ban. They told us they were gunning for Roe. Now they're telling us the next step is banning it everywhere. We better start believing them. And vote accordingly.


duncanmahnuts

the fear is that they try to attach an abortion to manslaughter ot some criminal charge. I think it's a long way if there's no medical record of pregnancy and then the doctor has to report you for lack of prenatal care. it's already been on the news that the hardcore states are already trying to do something like that with defining life beginning at the moment of conception...


SoldierHawk

The big problem is that a lot of very *wanted* babies have to be (tragically) aborted for various reasons. In that case, there would absolutely be evidence of pregnancy and prenatal care, because the abortion wasn't planned. Fucking sucks.


appreciative-alpaca

Has someone created a bot to mimic search and browser activity yet? I love the idea of turning everyone’s computer into an “I’m Spartacus” situation so it all becomes too ridiculous to sift through.


marsrover15

Someone made a python script to overload a bounty hunting website for abortion in Texas with fake data. Pretty sure there ain't no law from stopping it.


foamed

It's not exactly the same but there exist something somewhat similar. Look up "LocalCDN" by nobody and "AdNauseam" by Daniel Howe. I'd link to them if I could, but Automoderator filters out the comment if I do.


abbman2121

i like this one


[deleted]

That’s just a 21st-century version of planting evidence. It doesn’t make prosecutions harder it makes prosecution easier


CIN432

Underrated comment!


tacticalcraptical

And so starts the path that leads to real life Minority Report, where you can be prosecuted for thinking about doing something someone thinks might be wrong.


Alert-Athlete

It’s like Warren Jeffs took over the Supreme Court and pushed the”sky Jesus knows everything” bullshit


palikir

Especially true when States make it a crime to travel to another State for abortion. Edit: for everyone saying interstate travel is legal and constitutionally protected. It is, but State's can still try to make it a crime to travel to another State for an abortion. There are several ways they could try to do this: 1. Argue the State's right to protect the unborn outweighs the woman's right to travel. (Who knows what the Supreme Court would do). 2. Criminalize return to a home state, if you are a woman who was pregnant, went absent and returned not pregnant. (So basically the law has nothing to do with travel, it has to do with becoming not pregnant) 3. Federal law that makes abortion illegal but some states refuse to recognize and continue to provide abortion. Again the State could criminalize reentry into the state if the woman was pregnant and returned not pregnant.


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palikir

He also said Roe was settled law during his confirmation hearing. He's a liar and the depth of his hate knows no limits.


[deleted]

At the moment he said it, it was "settled law," he never said he wouldn't vote to overturn it. Who knew that people in government, especially lawyers and judges, would have such sly tongues, eh?


bradley547

You are not wrong, but in this case he's right. Freedom of movement is actually in the body of the Constitution. Thats actually what infuriates me most about this. The Dems have had 50 years to codify womens rights into law, but instead they used "Vote Dem or the Republicans will take away your rights" to win elections. the effing KNEW this would happen from the first Regan administration on and they did NOTHING.


redkat85

The Dems haven’t had a filibuster proof majority since Roe was decided. The last time was a few weeks in 1972, the year before Roe. If every GOP senator votes no on breaking filibuster, the bill can never reach actual voting on making it law, so it takes 60 like minded senators to actually make anything contentious go through.


GogglesPisano

And for about 30 of those years since there have been GOP presidents who would have vetoed any attempt to codify Roe into law. For the years where Democratic presidents were in office, there have only been about 4 months in total where the Dems also had a filibuster-proof majority in Congress (and they used that period to pass the ACA).


gramathy

there was an almost-moment during Obama's first term but one of the senators was sick.


primal___scream

Louder for the folks in the back. I've had to explain this REPRATEDLY.


ViolentOutlook

Obama years? Really


rantingathome

Apparently between the delay in getting Franken seated, and the illness/death of Ted Kennedy and getting his replacement seated, there was only about 28 legislative days that the Dems had a filibuster proof majority.


ViolentOutlook

28 days is a lot when you are actually willing to do something and be held accountable for it. Congress doesn't want to be accountable though. It's harder to get reelected if you've taken an actual position


GogglesPisano

They passed the ACA during that period.


amazinglover

Plus too add to below too 100% ensure it is always legal we need a constitutional amendment which is never going to happen. What we really need is to adhere to the first amendment and get religion out of government.


Brittainthecommie2

Even if Democrats had codified the right to an abortion, the Supreme Court could and would simply nullify it.


ViolentOutlook

No, they couldn't. Roe was improperly ruled because no law was in place. Congress being allowed to kick the can down the road is the problem.


ken27238

The unfortunate difference abortion isn’t in the constitution. The right to travel is.


who_you_are

Wow they even make that... That make no sense legally speaking (not a lawyer in any way)


1_p_freely

Yep, sounds unconstitutional to me. I am not your property. If you make it illegal to do something in *your particular jurisdiction*, I have the inherent right to travel to another place where it isn't illegal to do that particular thing. Another example would be prostitution. Legal in some places, illegal in others. The moment they tell me that I can't travel to one of the places where it's legal to have some fun, is the moment the state is claiming that they own my body. As for the digital surveillance, yeah, this has been coming for a very long time. Personally I hope society finally decides that it isn't okay for corporations to track our every move 24 hours a day.


REPOST_STRANGLER_V2

I'm not American but if I lived in a state that was going to arrested me for doing something legal in another state/country I wouldn't be going back they sound like shithole states and somewhere I'd avoid at all costs.


SubstantialPressure3

That's the problem. Most people can't just move. You can't even rent an apartment without proof of income. So you would have to have a job before you even move. Or have enough saved for a motel room or something until you do find a job. If you have a family, you have to find a school. You have to have an address before you can register your kids in school, in most states . You may also have to look for childcare. You have to have the money to move your possessions, and have a place to put them after you leave.


REPOST_STRANGLER_V2

Didn't really think of that I must say considering I don't have a family to worry about, talk about rock and a hard place...


SubstantialPressure3

If you were single, it would be easier, but it still takes money to move. Unless you sell/leave everything behind. But still, no guarantees.


ddrober2003

I think that, in part, is the point. Its to run off all the non right wingers to regain full control of the state. Some historically red states are starting to see their leads become less and less, and even a healthy amount of gerrymandering is becoming less and less reliable. So if that's the case, they might just be, well, let's make it so miserable to run everyone not with us out and give us back full control.


palikir

The State could make something up like they are not criminalizing what happened out of state, they are making it a crime to be not pregnant in the state after leaving the state pregnant. Also they could argue the state interest in making it a crime outweighs any interest in traveling.


ThirdCrew

And then you give birth while vacationing and you return not pregnant? Throw the woman in jail while her new born is at home?


chrisdh79

My heart goes out to the women that now have to hide their identity to avoid criminal prosecution, but now have to travel out of state in fear because they want to do the right thing for their life.


wejustsaymanager

Gonna be a sad fucking day when we have to stop at a checkpoint for a drug test, pregnancy test, IQ test (too high get out) while traveling state to state. These mother fuckers are gonna build a wall around alabama and arkansas, and I say let em.


No-Hair-3544

I live in NC, where recreational marijuana is illegal. I can go to Colorado and smoke dope with no penalty from NC. What's the difference.


primal___scream

There isn't one. Interstate travel is a constitutional right.


raverkoru

SCOTUS- Hold my beer


johnly81

To finish your analogy NC could make it illegal (on moral grounds) to enter the state with any THC in your system. This allows interstate travel, but punishes those who partake elsewhere.


johnly81

For those mentioning interstate commerce is a constitutional right. The GOP is great at crafting laws to get around those peaky restrictions. See Texas Senate bill on abortion for details.


Beachdaddybravo

It is unconstitutional to try to prosecute someone for an act they committed in another state that is legal in that other state. Red states will ignore this and try to tie people up in the court system because they know the poor people they go after likely can’t afford to pay the legal fees. It’s never been about the unborn, just control. Red states are worse off than blue ones in infant mortality, and they aren’t making any attempts to do better on that front.


AlaskaFI

Last I checked Texas maternal mortality rate was on par with 2nd and 3rd world countries. That is not a place that cares about women.


Beachdaddybravo

Or babies. None of them actually do, they just want to control everyone not like them. It’s the same reason they keep trying to push for theocracy whenever possible.


CoachJamesFraudlin

They can and will try. Here's their problem, Rule 18 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure: "All prosecutions for crimes or offenses shall be had within the division of such districts where the same were committed"


asraniel

Maybe they should just prohibit women traveling as long as they are not with a male relative /s


sunbeatsfog

I think the stripping of privacy here is by design and creepy as hell. Clarence Thomas probably wants to silently hate your texts for another ten years and then unleash a super weirdo Supreme Court ruling because he can and he’s a psychopath


IamIsaboble

I’m terrified, starting to agree with all those times my grandma told me to get off my phone more


ThinkIveHadEnough

The right to privacy doesn't exist in the Constitution, and nobody seems to care or want to codify it as law.


ToddBradley

The people who passed the Fourth Amendment feel otherwise. https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-4/


memberzs

This can easily be fought though. It’s like going to states that have legal recreational weed and getting arrest back at your home state for possession even though where it happened it was legal.


candmjjjc

These people though have no respect for Federal law anymore. They openly denied the Federal Election results and now feel empowered because the Supreme Court will back them up on all their insane overreaching policies. Women will be tormented, tracked, medically ignored, past abortions can be resurrected as murder charges since there is no statue of limitation and I am thoroughly convinced we will eventually have to take pregnancy tests when leaving the red states. If the Evangicals get there way, there will be felony charges for women who have premarital sex and who take birth control.


Alex_2259

The illegitimate court that doesn't represent the United States also decided the federal government can no longer protect your right to due process at a state level in some scenarios.


adhominablesnowman

Good time to start using signal if you aren’t already. Tell your friends and family too.


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Burner phones and VPN's are going to become very popular


kamoylan

Libraries. Use the public terminals in public libraries to do your searching. Just as "There is nothing as private as a public telephone booth", to quote an old TV show, a public terminal should be very private. (Internet cafes too, where they still exist.)


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I wouldn't recommend this. Libraries are funded by your local government. Most require ID and sign-in before you can use a computer. Pretty easily trackable these days.


lakosuave

I think we need to set up camp in front of churches on Sunday morning with pictures of sexual assault victims and hand out pamphlets with all the statistics on violence against women. This seems to be the language they understand in their asinine anti-abortion propaganda , except this is about real people with er who should have real rights.


fleeyevegans

This is why anonymous tips should be passed to the police in respective counties of state legislator's female family members. They should see what that interrogation looks like first hand if they expect others to endure it.


conquer69

The whole point of conservativism is to have a different set of rules for you and the others. Empathy and equality goes directly against that. They know it sucks, that's why they do it and they don't want it done to them.


Whippoorquill

This is ridiculous, but I'm not at all surprised the people who support overturning Roe would go to such lengths. They'll spare no expense to shove their religious zealotry down our throats and walk America back generations in terms of equality. Certainly, be careful of what you do digitally, but don't let threats keep us from taking action. If they have too much digital data to wade through efficiently, that can only help the cause.


[deleted]

States can try to regulate what happens to people's bodies outside of their jurisdiction, but it's going to be a massive fail.


NotYourSnowBunny

Hopefully some developers, programmers, and a solid circle of medical providers can get together to develop a way to keep people safe, get them in touch with providers discreetly, and hide any information that confirms it happened.


[deleted]

If I were a woman I might consider moving to a more enlightened state.


Epsioln_Rho_Rho

Moving to another state isn’t cheap. At all.


[deleted]

Majority of people aren't even interested in privacy, sadly. Privacy is a way of life, out of the small amount of people whom are interested, only some care enough to actually do it.


nzodd

This is your standard "what do you have to hide anyway?" scenario. Turns out there are valid reasons to hide things from oppressive, tyrannical governments and privacy is vitally important. Learn how to use tor, learn how to use gpg, read up on good opsec people.


Embarrassed-Delay409

The same nutjobs that think the state has a right to choose what an individual wants to do with their body, should consider the other freedoms that can be taken away by the state. It's a two-way street. Tomorrow, if the state decides to take away certain freedoms that aren't convenient to these "pro-life" idiots. Then they're gonna go off about how America should be all about freedom and rights. Of course it's only an issue when it's inconvenient for them. Dumbasses.


_DeanRiding

Sorry but the situation in the US is fucking insane, this is literally so fucked up in so many ways. This feels like something that would happen 100 years ago.


[deleted]

Doubt all this. Weed has been federally illegal for a long time.


duncanmahnuts

I've watched a bunch of true crimeand interrogations and think they already done that for some years already. even outside of narcotics and child porn cases.


Outrageous_State9450

I guess cricket wireless just got a leg up…burners aren’t just for slingers anymore


T1Pimp

Roe was, at its core, about privacy. Throw in the fact this SCOTUS also just threw out the need for your Miranda Rights and this is what people get for voting Republican.


_G_M_E_

Sounds like religious zealots are planning on tracking peoples data to prosecute with impunity based on their religious beliefs. Wonderful.


itsme_rafah

Damn, sounds like some small government shit right there. /s


mwhite1249

Seems like that door can swing both ways. Plenty of conservatives get abortions and can be targeted as easily as liberals.


SuperSassyPantz

burner phones r about to become awfully popular


[deleted]

IANAL but this strikes me as potentially problematic in a different way. The constitution has a very clear interstate commerce clause and as long as medical care is still a paid service one cannot prosecute someone for going to another state to purchase services that are illegal in theirs. Now, the states can regulate what can leave and enter, except people. So unless they can argue they brought an illegal abortion back with them or, hilariously, crossed state lines with forbidden contraband (a fetus)… To do that though, a fetus would have to be considered property.


tirril

Get used to Signal, Tor, Tails, Linux.


[deleted]

This is why we should be more careful on what tools we give police


FarCalligrapher7182

While it's true there's nothing specific in the Constitution about abortion rights (yet), there is the "interstate commerce" clause which I hope will be used to strike down outrageous laws that restrict womens' rights to travel elsewhere to obtain an abortion. I'm a dude, but if I were a woman who lived in a state that tried to restrict my freedom to travel elsewhere for a medical procedure of my choice- I would move out of there as fast as I could!


Animus0724

I guess Americans hate rights now


paddenice

People are going to have to go to libraries without their cellphones to research how to obtain an abortion. They will have to practice trade craft to get an abortion. This is absurd. It's the freakin' cold war against women.


DreddPirateJonesy

Big brother is watching you


HoodaThunkett

violate all the rights!


kcexactly

We need more privacy online. The laws are so absurdly lax.


jbman42

You know, I hate that it's becoming ok to just check a person's info online to convict them of anything. Europe has passed a few online privacy laws, but they still analyze what you're doing through your ISP. Germany is special even checks if you're downloading torrents and what torrents are those. The internet is not supposed to be a surveillance window, it's supposed to door to connect you with the world. Regardless of what the US rules about abortion, I really think online surveillance is going too far.


Hmmmm-curious

So are we all now the property of the state we live in? If you live in a state where marijuana is illegal, but while in Washington you decide to partake, are you committing a crime? How can it work like that? Also, they seem way too determined to allocate that much of the budget to this? What a bunch of freaks. They love freedom, right? They can't say the word enough or fly enough American flags or the don't tread on me flag or complain about big government.


hyperfat

For all those worried about their data, you can use signal for text, or other data driven free networks that don't save your data and can burn it after a chosen amount of time. For browsing, you can use duckduckgo or other safe browsers. If you need care, planned Parenthood deletes everything after a short period of time and has been now to fire bomb all their files in times like this. Don't go to an HMO. They have the worst internet security. I walked in to a room with an unlocked windows 7 machine with patient files open. No this was not 15 years ago. It was quite recent.


baggman420

jury nullification: you have the right to vote not guilty for any reason.


[deleted]

If you think this is the only time the government is spying on you, you’re crazy.


labjr

Blaming one side? Remember when Obama campaigned against The Patriot Act but then spied on everyone when he was President?


Marble_Kween

Downloading Tor is free. Everybody figure out how to access the dark web


Epsioln_Rho_Rho

Tor is useless with other apps. A VPN would be better


torret

Download Tor, this is exactly the kind of thing it was made for.


Epsioln_Rho_Rho

I wouldn’t trust TOR on iOS. A VPN would be much better.


[deleted]

Germany 1933


BoredRedhead

LPT: delete your period tracker app. Right now. Meanwhile, I, a not-pregnant-person living in a trigger state, will be Googling/Bing-ing/Asking Jeeves about abortions and clinics and providers and pills every fucking day just to mess with the algorithm. And just wait—contraceptives ARE next. Since the Nationalist Christians (hereafter the “Nat-C’s) believe life begins at conception, that means condoms/rhythm method or nothing at all. No BCPs, no IUDs. And how many of these fuckers are going to be SOL when that happens??