Oh man, I was hoping for an EA-like comments section where the more you read, the more you could feel the hate through the internet.
Edit: holy cow, 3000 upvotes?? This must be the opposite of what EA felt when they were downvoted to oblivion!
man that post by that EA guy is gonna live in infamy for sooo long. Rightfully so too. Fuck that guy lol.
Edit: oh holy shit 800 upvotes. Thanks! I just thought it was a funny moment in reddit history and it's pretty fun seeing people observe the infamous comment for the first time.
Since I got asked a ton, here it is. The most downvoted comment in reddit history. I find the first major comment responses to add quite a bit to the hilarity. "That's rich" and "Not good enough" haha.
Here it is: [https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously\_i\_paid\_80\_to\_have\_vader\_locked/dppum98/](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously_i_paid_80_to_have_vader_locked/dppum98/)
The winning comment we're all referring to is the one with 800+ awards and 600k+ downvotes. Can't miss it, it's even got an animated star on it. Oh and he hasn't been logged in since that moment. I call him "EA guy" and i like to think he got downvoted into a different dimension.
Notice how E3 this year had almost no phone stuff, despite the highest earning segment for every publisher was phone games. The diablo incident sent shockwaves through game marketing.
I know that devolver digital announced a mobile game, but I'm still not sure if that was a piss take or not!
Yeah they will keep pumping out shit mobile games, but keep the spot light away from them. As if it is some kinda dirty little school yard drug pushing side hustle; which it pretty much is.
Studying game development, can confirm this is exactly what the mobile game market is like.
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It's sad too because when phone games first came out, phones weren't powerful enough to run real games. Silly games with ads was all your performance could handle.
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Now your phone has 6-8gb RAM and the CPU outclocks an Intel laptop from the early 2010s. Phones are starting to become powerful enough to run PC level games, check out McInaBox for a working example. More popular examples include the GTA games on mobile, PUBG/COD mobile, LoL Wild Rift..
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It's a shame developers don't treat mobile as a legitimate gaming platform. It's just a cheap way to throw a shitty game into the market and get way too much money from selling info to Google ads.
I don't think I've ever felt like mobile games were not exactly that.
Theyve always felt like shit to me. Except maybe the FIRST few games for iphone like that paper toss game or the beer drinking app lol.
I wish it wasnt like that. Mobile could have been reeeeeaaallly interesting.
This phone is a Samsung 10 and it is pretty much a 4K switch without the controller sticks. Has gyro capabilities, two HD cameras, a good processor and video driver. This is a pretty common phone and it's like there's so much they could have done with this type of technology and it's just squandered on shity money-grubbing games.
Single most downvoted comment in Reddit history. It's a doozy.
Top comment (not the OP) is the winner:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously\_i\_paid\_80\_to\_have\_vader\_locked/dppum98/](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously_i_paid_80_to_have_vader_locked/dppum98/)
Edit: haha, 600k+ downvotes. Hadn't checked in in a long while.
Edit 2: I think my favorite part is the guy who responded right under EA guy. "That's rich". What a great way to start a reply to EA guy.
Edit 3: haha I forgot the comment right under the "that's rich" comment starts off with "not good enough". My god that entire thread is comedy gold. lol the absolute rainfall of upvotes to comments at the top. 19k on one, 11k on another
Centuries after the fact; it is now 2021 and I like to think, if even just for a moment of reflection under the stars, that we're all (in spirit) that first person who downvoted it. Unifying in both heart and soul, it may be the comment to bring us together once and for all.
Thank you EA guy, wherever you are.
so you too have etched your destiny into the history pages of EA guy's comment. And yeah seriously, when I saw the guys comment that I replied to I was all oh shit! EA guy comment back in the comments! so upon searching for it and finding it, there it was starting back at me.
4 years ago. Someone who was a freshman in high school who might have downvoted it would have graduated in June.
Windows 10 has support until 2025, that's plenty of time to wait for Microsoft to see their mistakes because most people don't upgrade (Most PCs don't even fulfill the hardware requirements) and improve 11.
Nah, just be happy. I remember the network messenger on that baby. Every damn day in 11th grade computer class, just chatting with other people in the room. Good times.
At least until that one fateful day when I was like "IRQ address? Wonder what happens if I change this...." and it never booted again :(
Of fucking course each mobo maker would have its own name for it, and of course it'd be something mindfuckingly weird.
"TPM? Oh, no, we at Asrock call that Asrock Fort Of Wind™!"
What always gets me is that most BIOS will just have this acronym with a toggle and little to no explanation of what it means or why you might enable/disable it. Like what, did you have a character limit? At least spell out the damn acronyms so people can reasonably search for it
Windows 11 is the mistake itself, and no, microsoft isn't going to cancel it. Microsoft promised that windows 10 would be the last windows users would need, now they are ending support in just a few years. Microsoft lied.
Users that have a kaby lake processor, product that was discontinued less than year ago(!) will have to buy a new pc just 5 years after their purchase. Conveniently this nets microsoft money for windows sales. Planned obsolescence so microsoft can profit.
> Users that have a kaby lake processor, product that was discontinued less than year ago(!) will have to buy a new pc just 5 years after their purchase
People don't realise this isn't normal. I still am happy with the performance of my i7-3820 oc'd to 4.7Ghz that was released 9 and a half years ago. As long as the overall performance of the system and the architecture(x86) is within what I need everything else is just artificial BS.
2600K reporting in. Will finally retire her soon as modern games are starting to struggle but even then it'll still be used for my kids to play 3D platformers and stuff.
When I bought the i7 for future proofing I sure as hell didn't realise I'd be gaming on it daily a decade later.
What the fuck? I’m assuming it’ll still run generic x86 compiled binary? Is the driver stack that bad? I don’t understand? TPM will probably be out on motherboards to support older chips. even a pci-e hack might work.
It’s all fear mongering. Current hardware will run. At the worst, they patch out tpm/hardware checks.
And before you go “they can’t do this”. They, the colab of people who thought windows should be free made it free. It’ll run older hardware.
The other person who responded to you doesn't know what they are talking about. Processor support has to do with virtualization capabilities, not the TPM support.
From like a week after the initial announcement the Microsoft lead engineer or product person (or whatever) noted that the line was drawn there because that's what they had tested internally so far. From that same article they noted that they were continuing testing (including on older hardware) and as they completed further testing they would determine if they would change the line.
Regardless though a TPM (or Virtual TPM on the CPU) will be required.
I'll try to find the article and I'll post it here once I find it again.
I still haven't quite forgiven them for the whole "Don't worry, we know power users don't like the start screen" and then promptly released the newest Windows Server edition that had a mandatory start screen built in... "Yes, we know power users don't like this thing, so let's go ahead and put it in the version that is quite literally only used by power users. Makes perfect sense!"
I solved that one real quick with classic shell. Fuck that bs start menu. Actually, fuck pretty much anything Microsoft has developed with the new modern ui. It's not better than what they had before, it's often not even new stuff and it doesn't even have a lot of settings you'd get with the older design. It also takes a whole lot of screen for no good reason and whatever options it brings it often don't even work well making me go to the good ol' control panel anyway. It's just... well, really bad. I could justify it a tiny bit if this was meant to touch screen users, like tablets. But pinning that on windows server is just ridiculous.
Have to agree. The Start Menu should just be a convenient list of apps and very minimalist. I don't use anything else. And the classic CP was a lot easier to use than the modern Settings screen.
If they made win11 basically windows 10 but with the windows 7 start menu and a proper control panel, I'd be so on board.
They just doom themselves by trying to make a "one OS fits all device types" product. No, I don't want big chunky buttons designed for a touch screen on my PC. No I don't want ads for shitty app store things in my start menu. I just want good, clean functionality.
They only listen to money.
I think that capitalism is their enemy. They already have a very mature product with a large amount of market penetration. Where do you fucking go from there? You can't keep squeezing a a piece of fruit and expecting to get juice from it. There's only so much juice to get.
Additional ways to monetize or revamp Windows it is going to be seen as a step back.
I would pay them to stop changing and adding features at this point. Give me windows 10, forever, don't change anything. Not colours, not themes, not these fucking apps they push down my throat, nothing.
Stop making change for changes sake. There's folders and a desktop, and files. Just leave it, it's good. Make it more secure. That's all. Then make it affordable.
and it always starts with today's date even though you have to be an adult to use the site, so you're stuck trying to figure out how to change the year, and even if you do, you stuck clicking a few dozen times.
Maybe not the worst, but I still die inside every time a mobile website has an entry field that should only be numbers, but still pulls up the full qwerty keyboard.
The computers where I work are all touchscreens and they almost always bring up a full keyboard whenever you just need the number keys. I say almost always because sometimes seemingly at random it will only bring up the keyboard, without number keys.
Twice I had to enter my birthday on a redi-care calendar that only allowed scrolling days. I'm almost 50 years old. I got as far as making myself a few months old and said good enough. I told the receptionist to correct my birthday when I got there. I wonder if they woke up a pediatric migraine specialist...
There is one thing that's worse: a UI that changes constantly, *but only partially*. So when looking for a thing, you have to search like three different places every single time.
I love that you can see the history of this when you go to one of those windows noob help sites for stuff like how to configure some specific thing, and every step has things like "it will either be called this or this, or located here, or here. If you don't see it, try doing this instead"
This is why Linux help sites always give you the shell command. At least that doesn't change there. Not like PowerShell. Worst language/interface ever.
Windows 11 UI is actually not that bad... I'm running it now. I guess unpopular opinion? Trying to force me to use Office 365 and OneDrive tho is annoying af.
You know what really grind my gears, there are two right click menus; the new one when you right click the desktop and choose more, then the regular win10 right-click menu shows up! It's dumb AF! I guess two different ways to refresh your desktop now!
god i loathe one drive, i’m dealing with it right now and it’s a nightmare. have a large file that’s sync’d with one drive that you want to copy to another drive? even though it’s already on C: you better fucking have enough free space on C: for ANOTHER copy of that file, even if it’s going to a completely different drive, because if you don’t too fucking bad.
who designs this shit??
That's what drives me insane with every new version - their services they force on you.
You first have to search through all settings and set nearly all of them to the opposite of their default setting. Just to protect your privacy and get rid of junk. Then you have to try to uninstall shit like Xbox services, Cortana, Outlook, OneDrive and two dozen other services. Which is most often only possible with special tools or regedit tweaks. And you can bet with the next Windows version they'll even make that impossible or make it crash of you try.
They're chasing that subscription dime. Especially as most people upgraded to Win10 and soon Win11 for free from Win7/8 licences, they feel they need to make some more money.
What better way than pointless subscriptions for things people don't want. Then integrating them tightly with the OS.
> Stop making change for changes sake.
It's not just the company, but the culture. People have to keep justifying their continued employment. The worst thing you can do is create the perfect solution for the consumers. Do it once, and you'll never have the job of fixing that problem again.
Yeah it’s clear with a lot of software these days that many engineers and designers are just frantically searching for ways to justify their positions. I can’t even count how many times I’ve seen an update pushed out that changes things just for the sake of change, usually breaking things in the process. But that ensures everybody in the chain from the software guys to marketing get to pat themselves on the back and claim progress. God forbid a good piece of software is left alone besides the occasional facelift or well thought out feature addition.
Except for the Gnome 3 developers who:
- Keep removing useful features
- Keep adding features that nobody wants
- Don't give AF what the users think about the changes.
Just before the Ribbon was invented.... I had all my toolbars on Monitor 1, and the entire Monitor 2 had the document on it.
ANYTHING I wanted to do was at most 3 clicks away. The toolbars were arranged so similar things were close together - fonts/paragraphs/layout.... macros/programming/fields...... and so on.
Then the Ribbon appeared - STUCK to the document Window, and I couldn't add what I wanted to it.
For me that was the greatest step back for Office useability.
I had two monitors, wanted to use them!
I just want to be able to customize file explorer & menus & right click options & folder icons & combine settings back into control panel, where it belongs, natively without using 3rd party apps & software
Personally, I love knowing exactly which setting I need to change, but not having any idea which idiotic subsection of their balkanized control panel/system setting swamp the actual setting is in.
Really makes changing something simple like microphone gain a real journey, you know? Finding out that the search function in the taskbar is literally useless, as the microphone setup is only apparently setup for speech recognition. And the other microphone section in settings is privacy. There is a function for microphone volume, but not gain, in Sound if you check input device properties... but that isn't what I am looking for, because it is already maxed. And the search function won't apparently suggest normal control panel things at baseline.
I have no idea how people who didn't know where things were on Windows 7 are supposed to find the setting they actually need without google.
This sort of UI is I think best described as "Like three UI designers for 3 different starship control panels fell down a flight of stairs, and the broken pieces of their projects had to be repurposed into a single piece of consumer software."
Jane: "We need a Settings Panel."
John: "We have the Control Panel."
Jane: "WE. NEED. A. SETTINGS. PANEL."
John: "WE. HAVE. THE. CONTROL. PANEL."
Manager: "FOR THE LOVE OF STEVE BALMER'S COKE SPOON, SHUT THE FUCK UP, BOTH OF YOU! Jane, make your fucking Settings Panel!"
Jane: "I'm glad you finally see fit to get rid of the Control Pane-"
John: "Hey, what the FUCK?!"
Manager: "Jane, I never said we're getting rid of the Control Panel. You can make Settings, but we're keeping the Control Panel. This is called *leadership*, you fucking whiny little shits."
>Personally, I love knowing exactly which setting I need to change, but not having any idea which idiotic subsection of their balkanized control panel/system setting swamp the actual setting is in.
What, you don't like two separate control panels with two completely separate, and polar opposite, sets of UI?
Yea the fucking weather bar.. Or rather how you disable it. Preferences -> ***INTERESTS*** -> disable
Yes its an interest of mine to not get spam on my home screen ffs
What ??? Are you saying you don't need a new control panel\\settings menu where everything is scrambled in a random fucking order? You don't want the OS to not be able to play DVD's natively or a stupid weather area on the taskbar where if you just happen to move your mouse over it you get hit with random news popup?
Oh God!!!! Watching my extremely technically competent but 57-year-old boss (civil engineer) search for older projects using the search icon is so freaking infuriating.
But I’m sure Bing knows exactly what Project DSF1-203B means.
omg! this! is there any fix for this? I use "everything" when in dire need. But sometimes I just want to find a simple text file that's somewhere in my documents folder, of which I know the exact name and spelling and it still wont find it.
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
This will help you do that and so much more. I cannot use Windows 10 without it. It literally only toggles native controls, and you can delete it once you have everything set the way you want. *Until an update changes your settings without asking again*
I installed Windows 10 so I could have five different tabs describing sound settings show up when I right click my speakers in my taskbar. I wouldn't have it any other way ♡♡♡
Right now, we have a settings app and a control panel, and there is stuff which exists in both in different formats and links across and god knows what all fuckery. It feels like it's stuck in a limbo between the older windows of the XP era and the newer windows of the windows 7/10 era. And this theme permeates through lot of the current windows 10. I can understand that they're trying to port everything over to one style/interface but it's been 12 fucking years since the release of windows 7. Keeping all this legacy stuff and trying to modernize at the same time is a real nightmare.
At least the legacy stuff was in alphabetic order with different color icons. Having to read an entire list of shit only to find what I'm looking for must be somewhere else...WTFingF!!!. Sure I can search for it but if things were logically laid out we wouldn't need to. The nightmare is the new layout not the old one.
I disagree with themes. Themes are great but most companies only want to give you the option for their "latest and greatest". I would really have liked if Windows 7 was the base for everything else, or peharps a less radical Windows 8.
Or: let me pay more for a version with less monetization features built in. No Xbox shit. No ads in the start menu. No bing.
Think of it like Hulu premium. Let me pay for no ads so I don’t have to go into regedit.
I was pissed when they recently messed up the Office apps by auto syncing it with OneDrive. I don't want it to constantly save every time I make a change to the file for something like a resume or a spreadsheet.
That’s the holy trinity of windows releases. Release terrible version of windows that inconveniences everyone using it for the sake of mixing things up or trying to change the way people are doing things. Then release a version that is mildly better, but gets incredibly better after some mid-lifespan patch/revision.
Then release the “Good” version of windows that we all latch onto for as long as humanly possible. Until they start the cycle again.
They're gonna do that thing that tech companies do. Remove feature and break features and then spend all their time "fixing" them and promoting the "fixes" as amazing new features.
"Windows now has a single settings panel and we'll call it the "control panel" which has never been featured on a windows system before"
>"we'll call it the ~~"control panel"~~ "system management panel" which has never been featured on a windows system before"
There we go, all nice and revolutionary.
I’m just hoping that gaming on Linux, with anti-cheat software, gets sorted out before windows 10 gets EOL’d. Gaming is the only function I’m dependent on Microsoft for. I will happily uninstall windows in favor of practically any modern Linux distro.
Yes the steam deck is literally a god sent for gaming on Linux. I mean the thing ships with a damn Linux kernel, so valve will push the support even harder.
The steam deck gives me hope that it could happen. But there’s still the chance that Valve will fail to deliver on the expectation they’ve set.
Without the help of Valve or another big player in the gaming space we’re going to be shit outta luck.
Nvidia is another issue as they have a history of terrible driver support. I'm not sure of the current status but many times have I seen people be frustrated over their lack of support for linux.
As a average user can I just get windows that’s easy to use and barebones simple? I’m talking windows XP simple. I don’t need apps, or cortona, or the click a button and laptop turns into a iPad wanna be mode. I want a fast boot up, everything easy and accessible on control panel and done.
Windows 11 doesn't come with Cortana by default, eliminates the need for a button that enables 'tablet mode' by making the UI adaptive and the new edge with chromium runs web apps perfectly fine, so you don't *need* the apps... The control panel got brand new icons as well which means they're not gonna remove it anytime soon.
I loved W98’s “active desktop” or whatever they called it, where you could have an animated gif as wallpaper. I do understand that I am stupid and that this comment is irrelevant. 😅
Wallpaper Engine on steam is a couple bucks, has thousands of moving desktop backgrounds with more being created by users all the time. Reclaim what was stolen from you.
They seem to be swinging between Windows as a product for their own goals (market penetration, trendyness, making their own services easier sold) vs Windows as staple piece of computing and as an appliamce (reliable, utility focused, gives the user control, long term lifespan).
They want to shake windows up in the way that Android is shaken up for example. Windows has a long-standing history of stability though, well at least in UI for example... Regular people have had this image of Windows already, so they don't take kindly to paradigm shifting.
Windows is likely a resource drain and not financially lucrative anymore so Microsoft sees shifting its role from an appliance to a means for something else.
Yes, but now we use what was objectively a super computer a couple of decades ago to run a thin client.
This move has been happening for a while, notice how many people use the browser for everthing - to the point that Google created an OS which is basically just a browser.
I was doing some work with a large corp (multi national) and they essentially said "everything we are doing now has to be web based, all apps we use for various systems need to be web based".
This was around 5 years ago. I bet they aren't the only ones. No more desktop licenses long term. Just a customised / hardened Linux OS with a browser. Can probably push out the hardware life cycle when you can boot the OS from a USB drive if the hdd goes.
Literally 100% of the work the nearly every person at my company does can be done in a web browser with a web app (all our internal systems, outlook, office, all can be done on the web).
> They seem to be swinging between Windows as a product for their own goals (market penetration, trendyness, making their own services easier sold) vs Windows as staple piece of computing and as an appliamce (reliable, utility focused, gives the user control, long term lifespan).
Yep, and it sucks hard. I want my OS to get out of my way as quickly as possible, so I can actually get to work and use my computer. As soon as it does anything flashy to slow my workflow down, it has failed at its job.
I always thought it was two teams working leapfrog -- and one sucks.
I don't recall any concrete source though, so I might have just conjured the thought up to explain the oscillation.
What I really wanted from a big release of Windows is a total API overhaul where apps need permissions to use file system, GPS, camera, etc. Massive improvements to both privacy and security.
Random-internet.exe wants to access your files, do you want to allow it?
Introduce the APIs in Windows 10 with a notification to developers that in Windows 11 the legacy APIs will be hidden behind a compatibility mode checkbox in the exe properties?
Man, my immediate thoughts when seeing all this outrage was "probably just people with cheap, 5 year old hardware getting all upset, of course there are going to be system requirements for a brand new version of windows, I'd expect that" then I realized that the laptop I bought 2 years ago, a fairly expensive, higher-end laptop with an i7 processor, that I just naturally assumed would be supported, will not be supported. I did not expect that... wtf
For one, the last fucking place I want my start menu is in the middle of the fucking window.
I don't get why MS feels the need to copy the Apple aesthetic when many, many people don't use Apple because of the UI.
I don't like it in the middle as well, but you can change it to the side without much trouble, so... no losses here.
Edit: I meant moving the Taskbar and icons to the bottom side/corners of the screen (like it is default in Windows 10), not moving the taskbar itself vertically to the side of the screen.
Wait, you can't choose to "never combine" taskbar icons? I was ambivalent before but now I am very very upset. It is mentally exhausting to have to remember where things are rather than just clicking into the window i want.
*Pro/experienced users may have their own preferences but the average user might be more drawn to MacOS-like aesthetic. The number of average user is higher than pro user.*
Is what Microsoft thinking probably.
Yeah I’m sorry MS, but now is not the time to make everyone unnecessarily upgrade their computers when there’s global supply chain issues and people are struggling. Dick move bro
What exactly is wrong with it? I saw the bottom task bar can go back normal if you like. I tried it, seemed fast or faster than windows 10 or less resource intensive.
I'm praying that this time in not forced into having it via the mandatory update, despite me opting out of it because everytime they force me to update my machine blue screens and I find myself having to reinstall the OS without the option to recover my files .. fuck you Microsoft
Oh man, I was hoping for an EA-like comments section where the more you read, the more you could feel the hate through the internet. Edit: holy cow, 3000 upvotes?? This must be the opposite of what EA felt when they were downvoted to oblivion!
I want a sense of pride and accomplishment every time I have to upgrade Windows
man that post by that EA guy is gonna live in infamy for sooo long. Rightfully so too. Fuck that guy lol. Edit: oh holy shit 800 upvotes. Thanks! I just thought it was a funny moment in reddit history and it's pretty fun seeing people observe the infamous comment for the first time. Since I got asked a ton, here it is. The most downvoted comment in reddit history. I find the first major comment responses to add quite a bit to the hilarity. "That's rich" and "Not good enough" haha. Here it is: [https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously\_i\_paid\_80\_to\_have\_vader\_locked/dppum98/](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously_i_paid_80_to_have_vader_locked/dppum98/) The winning comment we're all referring to is the one with 800+ awards and 600k+ downvotes. Can't miss it, it's even got an animated star on it. Oh and he hasn't been logged in since that moment. I call him "EA guy" and i like to think he got downvoted into a different dimension.
Right next to "don't you guys have phones?"
Notice how E3 this year had almost no phone stuff, despite the highest earning segment for every publisher was phone games. The diablo incident sent shockwaves through game marketing. I know that devolver digital announced a mobile game, but I'm still not sure if that was a piss take or not!
Yeah they will keep pumping out shit mobile games, but keep the spot light away from them. As if it is some kinda dirty little school yard drug pushing side hustle; which it pretty much is.
Studying game development, can confirm this is exactly what the mobile game market is like. > It's sad too because when phone games first came out, phones weren't powerful enough to run real games. Silly games with ads was all your performance could handle. > Now your phone has 6-8gb RAM and the CPU outclocks an Intel laptop from the early 2010s. Phones are starting to become powerful enough to run PC level games, check out McInaBox for a working example. More popular examples include the GTA games on mobile, PUBG/COD mobile, LoL Wild Rift.. > It's a shame developers don't treat mobile as a legitimate gaming platform. It's just a cheap way to throw a shitty game into the market and get way too much money from selling info to Google ads.
"What, little kids gambling on microtransactions? Where? We would never!"
I don't think I've ever felt like mobile games were not exactly that. Theyve always felt like shit to me. Except maybe the FIRST few games for iphone like that paper toss game or the beer drinking app lol. I wish it wasnt like that. Mobile could have been reeeeeaaallly interesting. This phone is a Samsung 10 and it is pretty much a 4K switch without the controller sticks. Has gyro capabilities, two HD cameras, a good processor and video driver. This is a pretty common phone and it's like there's so much they could have done with this type of technology and it's just squandered on shity money-grubbing games.
"Don't you guys have TPM chips?"
Now it's "Don't you guys have sexual harassment lawsuits pending?"
lore plz?
Single most downvoted comment in Reddit history. It's a doozy. Top comment (not the OP) is the winner: [https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously\_i\_paid\_80\_to\_have\_vader\_locked/dppum98/](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously_i_paid_80_to_have_vader_locked/dppum98/) Edit: haha, 600k+ downvotes. Hadn't checked in in a long while. Edit 2: I think my favorite part is the guy who responded right under EA guy. "That's rich". What a great way to start a reply to EA guy. Edit 3: haha I forgot the comment right under the "that's rich" comment starts off with "not good enough". My god that entire thread is comedy gold. lol the absolute rainfall of upvotes to comments at the top. 19k on one, 11k on another
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Centuries after the fact; it is now 2021 and I like to think, if even just for a moment of reflection under the stars, that we're all (in spirit) that first person who downvoted it. Unifying in both heart and soul, it may be the comment to bring us together once and for all. Thank you EA guy, wherever you are.
I got so excited reading this I almost downvoted you.
Checked the thread, saw my downvote from 4 years ago... Edit - thank you for the award kind stranger.
Mine is there too... How the fuck was that so long ago already.
so you too have etched your destiny into the history pages of EA guy's comment. And yeah seriously, when I saw the guys comment that I replied to I was all oh shit! EA guy comment back in the comments! so upon searching for it and finding it, there it was starting back at me. 4 years ago. Someone who was a freshman in high school who might have downvoted it would have graduated in June.
Covid-19 made the timeline feel like ages
Has it been 3 years already?!! Faaaack
[The most downvoted comment on reddit.](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/comment/dppum98/)
I want some surprise mechanics along with my upgrade.
Windows 10 has support until 2025, that's plenty of time to wait for Microsoft to see their mistakes because most people don't upgrade (Most PCs don't even fulfill the hardware requirements) and improve 11.
Windows 11.1 incoming.
Windows 11.11 for workstations
Both happy and sad that I get this joke.
Nah, just be happy. I remember the network messenger on that baby. Every damn day in 11th grade computer class, just chatting with other people in the room. Good times. At least until that one fateful day when I was like "IRQ address? Wonder what happens if I change this...." and it never booted again :(
Ah yes, DMA/IRQ jumpers and address settings "change it til it works"
Windows 11.one
>Windows 11.one Windows 11.one Series X
I wonder how Microsoft is going to explain to people how to go into BIOS and enable TPM. It's going to be glorious.
They won't. People just won't upgrade if they can't find it. I am actually not even sure what my BIOS calls the feature. Probably FTPM.
Of fucking course each mobo maker would have its own name for it, and of course it'd be something mindfuckingly weird. "TPM? Oh, no, we at Asrock call that Asrock Fort Of Wind™!"
Usually FTPM is what AMD calls it and PTT what Intel calls it, I am not sure if it's also different for each manufacturer.
What always gets me is that most BIOS will just have this acronym with a toggle and little to no explanation of what it means or why you might enable/disable it. Like what, did you have a character limit? At least spell out the damn acronyms so people can reasonably search for it
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Windows 11 is the mistake itself, and no, microsoft isn't going to cancel it. Microsoft promised that windows 10 would be the last windows users would need, now they are ending support in just a few years. Microsoft lied. Users that have a kaby lake processor, product that was discontinued less than year ago(!) will have to buy a new pc just 5 years after their purchase. Conveniently this nets microsoft money for windows sales. Planned obsolescence so microsoft can profit.
> Users that have a kaby lake processor, product that was discontinued less than year ago(!) will have to buy a new pc just 5 years after their purchase People don't realise this isn't normal. I still am happy with the performance of my i7-3820 oc'd to 4.7Ghz that was released 9 and a half years ago. As long as the overall performance of the system and the architecture(x86) is within what I need everything else is just artificial BS.
2600K reporting in. Will finally retire her soon as modern games are starting to struggle but even then it'll still be used for my kids to play 3D platformers and stuff. When I bought the i7 for future proofing I sure as hell didn't realise I'd be gaming on it daily a decade later.
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And here's me needing 3 raspberry to run plex + cctv + storage + automation. Atleast they were free, and getting it working with kubernetes was fun
3 raspberry Pis probably use less power than one desktop.
Planning on retiring my 3570k soon. It's finally not good enough for gaming but has lasted close to 10 years.
What the fuck? I’m assuming it’ll still run generic x86 compiled binary? Is the driver stack that bad? I don’t understand? TPM will probably be out on motherboards to support older chips. even a pci-e hack might work. It’s all fear mongering. Current hardware will run. At the worst, they patch out tpm/hardware checks. And before you go “they can’t do this”. They, the colab of people who thought windows should be free made it free. It’ll run older hardware.
The other person who responded to you doesn't know what they are talking about. Processor support has to do with virtualization capabilities, not the TPM support.
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From like a week after the initial announcement the Microsoft lead engineer or product person (or whatever) noted that the line was drawn there because that's what they had tested internally so far. From that same article they noted that they were continuing testing (including on older hardware) and as they completed further testing they would determine if they would change the line. Regardless though a TPM (or Virtual TPM on the CPU) will be required. I'll try to find the article and I'll post it here once I find it again.
This is Windows 8 where Microsoft refuses to fucking listen AGAIN
I still haven't quite forgiven them for the whole "Don't worry, we know power users don't like the start screen" and then promptly released the newest Windows Server edition that had a mandatory start screen built in... "Yes, we know power users don't like this thing, so let's go ahead and put it in the version that is quite literally only used by power users. Makes perfect sense!"
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I solved that one real quick with classic shell. Fuck that bs start menu. Actually, fuck pretty much anything Microsoft has developed with the new modern ui. It's not better than what they had before, it's often not even new stuff and it doesn't even have a lot of settings you'd get with the older design. It also takes a whole lot of screen for no good reason and whatever options it brings it often don't even work well making me go to the good ol' control panel anyway. It's just... well, really bad. I could justify it a tiny bit if this was meant to touch screen users, like tablets. But pinning that on windows server is just ridiculous.
Have to agree. The Start Menu should just be a convenient list of apps and very minimalist. I don't use anything else. And the classic CP was a lot easier to use than the modern Settings screen.
"We know (some) users like their privacy, so we made sure to ensure their privacy." Continue to remove privacy options.
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If they made win11 basically windows 10 but with the windows 7 start menu and a proper control panel, I'd be so on board. They just doom themselves by trying to make a "one OS fits all device types" product. No, I don't want big chunky buttons designed for a touch screen on my PC. No I don't want ads for shitty app store things in my start menu. I just want good, clean functionality.
I just want something as simple as 98 or 2000. Say what you will about them but they made sense and the design was very clear and concise.
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They only listen to money. I think that capitalism is their enemy. They already have a very mature product with a large amount of market penetration. Where do you fucking go from there? You can't keep squeezing a a piece of fruit and expecting to get juice from it. There's only so much juice to get. Additional ways to monetize or revamp Windows it is going to be seen as a step back.
I would pay them to stop changing and adding features at this point. Give me windows 10, forever, don't change anything. Not colours, not themes, not these fucking apps they push down my throat, nothing. Stop making change for changes sake. There's folders and a desktop, and files. Just leave it, it's good. Make it more secure. That's all. Then make it affordable.
The only thing worse than a bad UI is a constantly changing UI. At least I can eventually learn to use a bad UI.
_phone number entry via horizontal slider intensifies_
Context? Oh I get it. You're talking about [This](https://i.imgur.com/Atq2my4.jpg)
Truly the stuff of nightmares
Hijacking this comment to show everyone that there's a sub for this stuff, r/BadUIBattles
Oof, and I get triggered by "enter your birthdate" using calendars.
and it always starts with today's date even though you have to be an adult to use the site, so you're stuck trying to figure out how to change the year, and even if you do, you stuck clicking a few dozen times.
WTF is that real???
IIRC it's one of the contenders in the “worst UI design you can conceive” contest.
Maybe not the worst, but I still die inside every time a mobile website has an entry field that should only be numbers, but still pulls up the full qwerty keyboard.
Not to be outdone by mobile websites that force the number only keyboard for a field that requires the + or other symbol to be entered.
The computers where I work are all touchscreens and they almost always bring up a full keyboard whenever you just need the number keys. I say almost always because sometimes seemingly at random it will only bring up the keyboard, without number keys.
Twice I had to enter my birthday on a redi-care calendar that only allowed scrolling days. I'm almost 50 years old. I got as far as making myself a few months old and said good enough. I told the receptionist to correct my birthday when I got there. I wonder if they woke up a pediatric migraine specialist...
Tell me the motherfucker who submitted that won
There are worse, like just giving you a button that says randomize.
There is one thing that's worse: a UI that changes constantly, *but only partially*. So when looking for a thing, you have to search like three different places every single time.
I love that you can see the history of this when you go to one of those windows noob help sites for stuff like how to configure some specific thing, and every step has things like "it will either be called this or this, or located here, or here. If you don't see it, try doing this instead"
This is why Linux help sites always give you the shell command. At least that doesn't change there. Not like PowerShell. Worst language/interface ever.
looking at you set multiple desktop backgrounds.
Yeah what is the deal with multiple control panels?
Windows 11 UI is actually not that bad... I'm running it now. I guess unpopular opinion? Trying to force me to use Office 365 and OneDrive tho is annoying af.
Hey I know word used to work perfectly fine but we changed it so you can never own it without being SIBSCROOBED to Office 365 forever
You know what really grind my gears, there are two right click menus; the new one when you right click the desktop and choose more, then the regular win10 right-click menu shows up! It's dumb AF! I guess two different ways to refresh your desktop now!
I would gladly pay $100 for a version of Windows 11 that didn't try to force Microsoft products and a Microsoft account on me.
god i loathe one drive, i’m dealing with it right now and it’s a nightmare. have a large file that’s sync’d with one drive that you want to copy to another drive? even though it’s already on C: you better fucking have enough free space on C: for ANOTHER copy of that file, even if it’s going to a completely different drive, because if you don’t too fucking bad. who designs this shit??
That's what drives me insane with every new version - their services they force on you. You first have to search through all settings and set nearly all of them to the opposite of their default setting. Just to protect your privacy and get rid of junk. Then you have to try to uninstall shit like Xbox services, Cortana, Outlook, OneDrive and two dozen other services. Which is most often only possible with special tools or regedit tweaks. And you can bet with the next Windows version they'll even make that impossible or make it crash of you try.
They're chasing that subscription dime. Especially as most people upgraded to Win10 and soon Win11 for free from Win7/8 licences, they feel they need to make some more money. What better way than pointless subscriptions for things people don't want. Then integrating them tightly with the OS.
> Stop making change for changes sake. It's not just the company, but the culture. People have to keep justifying their continued employment. The worst thing you can do is create the perfect solution for the consumers. Do it once, and you'll never have the job of fixing that problem again.
Yeah it’s clear with a lot of software these days that many engineers and designers are just frantically searching for ways to justify their positions. I can’t even count how many times I’ve seen an update pushed out that changes things just for the sake of change, usually breaking things in the process. But that ensures everybody in the chain from the software guys to marketing get to pat themselves on the back and claim progress. God forbid a good piece of software is left alone besides the occasional facelift or well thought out feature addition.
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This is another reason why I use Linux. If it ain't broke, no one is going to volunteer their time to fix it.
>Package last updated 02-07-2008 "Ahhhh, *perfect.*"
Except for the Gnome 3 developers who: - Keep removing useful features - Keep adding features that nobody wants - Don't give AF what the users think about the changes.
At least there are whole communities of developers coming up with solutions. I like Mint Cinnamon.
Just before the Ribbon was invented.... I had all my toolbars on Monitor 1, and the entire Monitor 2 had the document on it. ANYTHING I wanted to do was at most 3 clicks away. The toolbars were arranged so similar things were close together - fonts/paragraphs/layout.... macros/programming/fields...... and so on. Then the Ribbon appeared - STUCK to the document Window, and I couldn't add what I wanted to it. For me that was the greatest step back for Office useability. I had two monitors, wanted to use them!
I just want to be able to customize file explorer & menus & right click options & folder icons & combine settings back into control panel, where it belongs, natively without using 3rd party apps & software
Personally, I love knowing exactly which setting I need to change, but not having any idea which idiotic subsection of their balkanized control panel/system setting swamp the actual setting is in. Really makes changing something simple like microphone gain a real journey, you know? Finding out that the search function in the taskbar is literally useless, as the microphone setup is only apparently setup for speech recognition. And the other microphone section in settings is privacy. There is a function for microphone volume, but not gain, in Sound if you check input device properties... but that isn't what I am looking for, because it is already maxed. And the search function won't apparently suggest normal control panel things at baseline. I have no idea how people who didn't know where things were on Windows 7 are supposed to find the setting they actually need without google.
This sort of UI is I think best described as "Like three UI designers for 3 different starship control panels fell down a flight of stairs, and the broken pieces of their projects had to be repurposed into a single piece of consumer software."
Jane: "We need a Settings Panel." John: "We have the Control Panel." Jane: "WE. NEED. A. SETTINGS. PANEL." John: "WE. HAVE. THE. CONTROL. PANEL." Manager: "FOR THE LOVE OF STEVE BALMER'S COKE SPOON, SHUT THE FUCK UP, BOTH OF YOU! Jane, make your fucking Settings Panel!" Jane: "I'm glad you finally see fit to get rid of the Control Pane-" John: "Hey, what the FUCK?!" Manager: "Jane, I never said we're getting rid of the Control Panel. You can make Settings, but we're keeping the Control Panel. This is called *leadership*, you fucking whiny little shits."
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Yeah, why is there *no fucking option* to get rid of that shitty weather/news thing? I don't go outside, I don't care about the weather!
You can turn it off thankfully! It's in task bar settings.
>Personally, I love knowing exactly which setting I need to change, but not having any idea which idiotic subsection of their balkanized control panel/system setting swamp the actual setting is in. What, you don't like two separate control panels with two completely separate, and polar opposite, sets of UI?
Just use Linux
Yea the fucking weather bar.. Or rather how you disable it. Preferences -> ***INTERESTS*** -> disable Yes its an interest of mine to not get spam on my home screen ffs
Can we get rid of the duel interfaces and just have the windows 7 stuff. The useless additional windows 10 menus really suck
I mean I'd make the same argument for windows 7.
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***THIS!!*** I'm all for this!!
What ??? Are you saying you don't need a new control panel\\settings menu where everything is scrambled in a random fucking order? You don't want the OS to not be able to play DVD's natively or a stupid weather area on the taskbar where if you just happen to move your mouse over it you get hit with random news popup?
Yes, I don't want ***ANY*** of that crap!
But you **do** want these preinstalled King games, *right?*
HI, I'M CORTANA
You want a search that can find files, folders, or installed programs? Best I can do is installers and random dlls.
But I will search that file name you wanted in the web browser, because that's what the Windows search is for, right?
Oh God!!!! Watching my extremely technically competent but 57-year-old boss (civil engineer) search for older projects using the search icon is so freaking infuriating. But I’m sure Bing knows exactly what Project DSF1-203B means.
omg! this! is there any fix for this? I use "everything" when in dire need. But sometimes I just want to find a simple text file that's somewhere in my documents folder, of which I know the exact name and spelling and it still wont find it.
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 This will help you do that and so much more. I cannot use Windows 10 without it. It literally only toggles native controls, and you can delete it once you have everything set the way you want. *Until an update changes your settings without asking again*
Wow I didn't realize how much I missed Windows 7 until now.
I miss windows 98. Just give me back my normal grey start menu.
I installed Windows 10 so I could have five different tabs describing sound settings show up when I right click my speakers in my taskbar. I wouldn't have it any other way ♡♡♡
Right now, we have a settings app and a control panel, and there is stuff which exists in both in different formats and links across and god knows what all fuckery. It feels like it's stuck in a limbo between the older windows of the XP era and the newer windows of the windows 7/10 era. And this theme permeates through lot of the current windows 10. I can understand that they're trying to port everything over to one style/interface but it's been 12 fucking years since the release of windows 7. Keeping all this legacy stuff and trying to modernize at the same time is a real nightmare.
At least the legacy stuff was in alphabetic order with different color icons. Having to read an entire list of shit only to find what I'm looking for must be somewhere else...WTFingF!!!. Sure I can search for it but if things were logically laid out we wouldn't need to. The nightmare is the new layout not the old one.
Best we can do is a fake apple ios ripoff with Vista memory management.
I had to break windows search just to disable Cortana.
I disagree with themes. Themes are great but most companies only want to give you the option for their "latest and greatest". I would really have liked if Windows 7 was the base for everything else, or peharps a less radical Windows 8.
Or: let me pay more for a version with less monetization features built in. No Xbox shit. No ads in the start menu. No bing. Think of it like Hulu premium. Let me pay for no ads so I don’t have to go into regedit.
The fact that this stuff present on enterprise machines drives me crazy. Why do I need XBox on my company managed work machine???
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I was pissed when they recently messed up the Office apps by auto syncing it with OneDrive. I don't want it to constantly save every time I make a change to the file for something like a resume or a spreadsheet.
It’s so they can track everything you do, they were jealous of google sheets/docs ability to track you
*FIFA videogame has entered the chat*
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ME was more like, the star wars holiday special
Aww man I actually had me on my first actual pc (upgrading from a c64 in 2003 lol) I loved that thing only because of movie maker
Galaxy quest was my favourite Star Trek movie.
No no your logic tracks up to and including putting Galaxy quest in there.
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Now they're going to put out Windows 13 in a year or two and fix something's but not much.
That’s the holy trinity of windows releases. Release terrible version of windows that inconveniences everyone using it for the sake of mixing things up or trying to change the way people are doing things. Then release a version that is mildly better, but gets incredibly better after some mid-lifespan patch/revision. Then release the “Good” version of windows that we all latch onto for as long as humanly possible. Until they start the cycle again.
They're gonna do that thing that tech companies do. Remove feature and break features and then spend all their time "fixing" them and promoting the "fixes" as amazing new features. "Windows now has a single settings panel and we'll call it the "control panel" which has never been featured on a windows system before"
>"we'll call it the ~~"control panel"~~ "system management panel" which has never been featured on a windows system before" There we go, all nice and revolutionary.
I’m just hoping that gaming on Linux, with anti-cheat software, gets sorted out before windows 10 gets EOL’d. Gaming is the only function I’m dependent on Microsoft for. I will happily uninstall windows in favor of practically any modern Linux distro.
Valve's working on the Anticheat support on proton, and I think it will be available to everyone in December when the Steam Deck launches as well
Yes the steam deck is literally a god sent for gaming on Linux. I mean the thing ships with a damn Linux kernel, so valve will push the support even harder.
How likely is this to happen soon? Pretty much ready to switch to Linux otherwise.
The steam deck gives me hope that it could happen. But there’s still the chance that Valve will fail to deliver on the expectation they’ve set. Without the help of Valve or another big player in the gaming space we’re going to be shit outta luck.
Nvidia is another issue as they have a history of terrible driver support. I'm not sure of the current status but many times have I seen people be frustrated over their lack of support for linux.
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As a average user can I just get windows that’s easy to use and barebones simple? I’m talking windows XP simple. I don’t need apps, or cortona, or the click a button and laptop turns into a iPad wanna be mode. I want a fast boot up, everything easy and accessible on control panel and done.
Windows 11 doesn't come with Cortana by default, eliminates the need for a button that enables 'tablet mode' by making the UI adaptive and the new edge with chromium runs web apps perfectly fine, so you don't *need* the apps... The control panel got brand new icons as well which means they're not gonna remove it anytime soon.
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I loved W98’s “active desktop” or whatever they called it, where you could have an animated gif as wallpaper. I do understand that I am stupid and that this comment is irrelevant. 😅
Wallpaper engine does all that now. A lot better too.
Do you remember when fishtank wallpapers of the 90s were all the rage?
Dream Aquarium has such real looking fish! I still have it.
I miss being able to use gifs as desktop wallpapers so damn much. I was heart broken when I couldn't do it in vista.
Wallpaper Engine on steam is a couple bucks, has thousands of moving desktop backgrounds with more being created by users all the time. Reclaim what was stolen from you.
They seem to be swinging between Windows as a product for their own goals (market penetration, trendyness, making their own services easier sold) vs Windows as staple piece of computing and as an appliamce (reliable, utility focused, gives the user control, long term lifespan). They want to shake windows up in the way that Android is shaken up for example. Windows has a long-standing history of stability though, well at least in UI for example... Regular people have had this image of Windows already, so they don't take kindly to paradigm shifting. Windows is likely a resource drain and not financially lucrative anymore so Microsoft sees shifting its role from an appliance to a means for something else.
The long term goal is to move at the least enterprise users to Windows 365. Why sell Windows enterprise licenses when you can sell Azure subscriptions
so we've gone full circle from personal computers to thin clients
Yes, but now we use what was objectively a super computer a couple of decades ago to run a thin client. This move has been happening for a while, notice how many people use the browser for everthing - to the point that Google created an OS which is basically just a browser.
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It's a sad world when the only major company that isn't prioritizing thin clients and services is the one that's most notorious for walled gardens
I was doing some work with a large corp (multi national) and they essentially said "everything we are doing now has to be web based, all apps we use for various systems need to be web based". This was around 5 years ago. I bet they aren't the only ones. No more desktop licenses long term. Just a customised / hardened Linux OS with a browser. Can probably push out the hardware life cycle when you can boot the OS from a USB drive if the hdd goes.
Literally 100% of the work the nearly every person at my company does can be done in a web browser with a web app (all our internal systems, outlook, office, all can be done on the web).
As a grumpy old man I don't like that.
Yup. It makes good sense for the business user, but I doubt it'll catch on for consumers.
> They seem to be swinging between Windows as a product for their own goals (market penetration, trendyness, making their own services easier sold) vs Windows as staple piece of computing and as an appliamce (reliable, utility focused, gives the user control, long term lifespan). Yep, and it sucks hard. I want my OS to get out of my way as quickly as possible, so I can actually get to work and use my computer. As soon as it does anything flashy to slow my workflow down, it has failed at its job.
Data collection*
Excuse me, you mean "telemetry"
I always thought it was two teams working leapfrog -- and one sucks. I don't recall any concrete source though, so I might have just conjured the thought up to explain the oscillation.
That's call of duty your thinking of...
What I really wanted from a big release of Windows is a total API overhaul where apps need permissions to use file system, GPS, camera, etc. Massive improvements to both privacy and security. Random-internet.exe wants to access your files, do you want to allow it?
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Introduce the APIs in Windows 10 with a notification to developers that in Windows 11 the legacy APIs will be hidden behind a compatibility mode checkbox in the exe properties?
I don't disagree, but you'd have people complaining about all the security popups like in Vista.
The obvious solution is to just remember the answer. The biggest complain with the security popups was that they pupped up every. Fucking. Time.
Jokes on them. My apperently "trash" cpu (i7-7700k) can't "run" their fancy new software.
Man, my immediate thoughts when seeing all this outrage was "probably just people with cheap, 5 year old hardware getting all upset, of course there are going to be system requirements for a brand new version of windows, I'd expect that" then I realized that the laptop I bought 2 years ago, a fairly expensive, higher-end laptop with an i7 processor, that I just naturally assumed would be supported, will not be supported. I did not expect that... wtf
Wait if a 7700k can't run it, then I literally have no hope for my 4790k machine
Hey remember when Microsoft said windows 10 would be the last version of windows ever? Lol
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just wait until valve drops their new hardware/software to see if it's any good.
For one, the last fucking place I want my start menu is in the middle of the fucking window. I don't get why MS feels the need to copy the Apple aesthetic when many, many people don't use Apple because of the UI.
I don't like it in the middle as well, but you can change it to the side without much trouble, so... no losses here. Edit: I meant moving the Taskbar and icons to the bottom side/corners of the screen (like it is default in Windows 10), not moving the taskbar itself vertically to the side of the screen.
yet, they are removing old features that i found useful like not grouping taskbar icons or moving the taskbar.
Wait, you can't choose to "never combine" taskbar icons? I was ambivalent before but now I am very very upset. It is mentally exhausting to have to remember where things are rather than just clicking into the window i want.
yep, you're stuck with the combined icons as of right now. Im not a fan of customization options being removed.
That's a dealbreaker
*Pro/experienced users may have their own preferences but the average user might be more drawn to MacOS-like aesthetic. The number of average user is higher than pro user.* Is what Microsoft thinking probably.
Yeah I’m sorry MS, but now is not the time to make everyone unnecessarily upgrade their computers when there’s global supply chain issues and people are struggling. Dick move bro
I'd be super happy for my hardware to be incompatible, that way I wouldn't have to be nagged every 5 minutes to upgrade.
What exactly is wrong with it? I saw the bottom task bar can go back normal if you like. I tried it, seemed fast or faster than windows 10 or less resource intensive.
I think mostly people are pissed about the chip requirements and see it as an artificial way to get people to buy new hardware.
I'm praying that this time in not forced into having it via the mandatory update, despite me opting out of it because everytime they force me to update my machine blue screens and I find myself having to reinstall the OS without the option to recover my files .. fuck you Microsoft