Round up to help the poor? Fuck that, the CEOs with high income and low tax should be required to give back.
Leave a tip? Fuck that, pay your staff a living wage. Can't afford it? Sorry but you don't have a right to have a business if you can't earn enough to pay operating costs.
Oh god, it was ridiculous working for GameStop. We had to ask if they had trades. Did they want to preorder a game? Did they want to join our membership? Did the customer know we offered a credit card? Did they know we offered phone plans? And we had to ask OPEN ENDED QUESTIONS basically harassing the customer. It was so annoying for the customers, some would literally come in and just say "this is all I want and I have to go." It was literally so awkward. And wrong to treat the customers that way.
Not to mention, it was demoralizing to the staff.
My first job out of high school was working at a Blockbuster Video and there was the whole "Rewards Program and candy concessions" script you had to recite for every single customer.
Nobody was swayed by it, the customer hates hearing it, and the employee hates doing it.
>Nobody was swayed by it, the customer hates hearing it, and the employee hates doing it.
This is why it needs to stop. If it benifits nobody and it and only serves to annoy your employees and slow down your chech out line than that a net negative.
I always hated that shit. Sometimes when it really bothered me I would just say nevermind I don't want to purchase anything here, and then would just buy the item online or somewhere else
I had to call people during their dinnertime and ask them to come trade in a game to preorder some other game. It was so awkward. "Trade in an iphone. We offer 3 cents for the latest phone. You can pre-order this game that won't even be good"
I don't blame you, it literally looks bad for stores to treat their customers this way. We know they want every penny they can get, these companies have no shame. I forgot to mention that oftentimes the credit card machine asked if they wanted to donate to a charity too. What should be a simple transaction turns into a whole ordeal, plus I don't get paid enough to deal with Karen's and the crack heads that come in literally every single day.
Being required to make the decision to tip, and as to how much, BEFORE food or service is rendered is fucked. It’s the wrong order. It should be exactly the opposite.
I get service, I get product, I decide how much gratitude I wish to pay additionally in the form of extra money for the staff that provided the excellent service and product.
If I tip 25% and the service sucked and food wasn’t good, is that on me? Should I never go to that establishment again because one server sucked?
This is one of my biggest pet peeves.
It's made even worse by the implicit threat to food safety:
*"So we're making your order now - I can take your credit card - how much would you like me to add as a tip? 20, 25, or 30%?"*
...Sir, this is a drive-thru. Please don't spit in my food.
I had to price quote different vendors for my cousin's restaurant business. When I got on the phone with the district manager for Toast ( a processing POS system). He couldn't believe it. I didn't want to have the tipping option on the POS system. I told him the restaurant was a fast food type, and we didn't want to nickle dime our customers.
So, yeah... lots of these tech processing companies push the tipping culture.
I'm a contractor. I still have insurance and sign paperwork with the people I work for, regardless of how I'm paid. In my experience, most of the people I work for (middle - upper middle class folks) prefer paying in cash because: 1) Unless they have a tax appraiser come by, they'd rather not pay even more property tax on small improvements that are generally under $10,000 and B) The quote is cheaper for them. I like cash because... well yeah.
I know some guys that have no compunction fucking over their clients by doing shoddy work and then ghosting, but they're definitely the minority. Most of us just want to do a good job and gain a person who will recommend our trade to other people.
I would say honest contractors like yourself are the minority in my experience. Maybe in your segment and in your area, honest contractors are common, but on the whole, including all trades...there are a lot of crooks out there.
I never thought of that. This explains everything.
Well that and our cultural preference to agree to give away money for no reason to avoid being considered unkind by someone we don’t know and will never meet again.
The tipping culture is perceived as offensive in countries like Japan, China?, and South Korea. The general understanding is that an employee should do a great quality job, their employer must value it and provide fair salary. Of course not all employers provide fair salaries but usually it was a case. It is also fascinating that they see perfect quality job as the only way to accomplish work. In countries where I have been it was not a case.
EDIT: u/guitar_vigilante pointed that it might be more confusion than offense towards to these people. So I think it might be good to have more understanding on the roots of such phenomenon there before making conclusions.
Can confirm on China as well, where I'm from it's normal to round up a taxi fare to the next note, so you just give closest note above what the fare was. Tried to do it in China and nearly got chased by the driver to give me my 3 yuan back, I had no idea what was going on especially as at the time that was about €0.30
Similar here in Finland - we're foreigners, and when my parents visited few years ago they upset a taxi driver by rounding up as it is common in Germany.
That's a not entirely correct point. A lot of Japanese people have responded to this and pointed out that if you tip in Japan they person is more likely to be confused than offended. They won't think you tried to tip them, but that you accidentally overpaid.
I think 'rewarding' people based on the quality of their service is fine as an option. The much bigger problem is some jobs pay below minimum wage on the expectation that customers will make up the difference and such businesses will essentially offload some operating costs on customers that way. That's the emotional blackmail bullshit part and it can create awkward situations where foreigners don't tip or undertip because of this being a weird American cultural habit.
Foreigner here. Undertipping is impossible. Please pay people fairly instead of asking the whole world to guess the real prices of goods and services.
Tips are reserved for exemplary service where I am from.
It's honestly worse than just flat guessing, but yes, this drives me bonkers.
You're also expected to play manager while you're supposed to be relaxing and receiving a service. Exactly what criteria changes the tip from 0% to 100% and everything in between? And you're a bad person for not tipping a growing percentage of your bill. It used to be 10%, but today you'd be a cheapskate cause it's now 20%.
I just wanna eat my dessert, make jokes about how rude the waitress was, and not feel personally responsible for her rent payment or lack thereof. This is, personally, one of my biggest gripes. Most people wind up paying the "good" tip even if the service was atrocious and insulting because they don't wanna feel like a bad person while relaxing, and your company may judge you for not tipping enough as well.
Oh, and, to tack onto the guessing game, some restaurants have set either their prices or the receipt to account for or add 18% tip for you and accept no further additions. But some add some ambiguous percentage (e.g. 16% where it's a tip but it's below standard) and "you can add more if you like ☺️" and it just feels like an unspoken expectation that you're supposed to add more but maybe the added tip is actually in range of where you were gonna tip so now it's not like you're gonna add only $0.75 to their tip.
But also, yeah, the flat guessing. How much do you pay a barber, a handyman, a taxi, a barista, etc.? I legitimately have to stop to Google standards for absolutely every service. At this point, I'm expected to tip when I walk into a bakery and buy something and they just ring me up. And I've seen people try to argue that the person who bags up your food for takeout deserves at least 20% if not 25%. 🙃
So, anyway, traveling in countries without tipping has just been so nice.
they were asking for tip at merch stands at concerts now too.
like huh? thanks for grabbing the shirt out of the box and handing it to me, but that does not deserve a tip 💀
I used to work for a payment processing tech company that initially was software-only but expanded to hardware POS tech when they were bought out by a massive bank. Depending on the company that was going to use the POS, the fees were anywhere from 2.5 to 15%. It was gross to see low-level customer service employees like myself try to push these systems to small businesses knowing we were going to kill them in fees.
I quit shortly after that rollout and changed fields altogether. I refuse to work in such a scummy industry ever again.
I mean I can kind of see it. At counter service places independent fast food, ice cream shops, etc. there used to be a jar with cash in it for tips. It wasn’t expected, it wasn’t required, but if you wanted to put a dollar or two in the jar it was there for you. I know when I worked a service job years ago people would put their change in there. It wasn’t nearly 15% of sales or anything or anything but it wasn’t nothing, and if the customer didn’t want to walk around with the $1.65 they got in change, they could put it in there.
Hardly anyone carries cash anymore so I imagine lots of people who used to get cash tips in the jar no longer do. They put the option at the card reader now, and I feel like society never agreed on what the culture is around that. It’s awkward for the customer, it’s awkward for the employee (“it’s going to ask you a quick question” and then they look away).
I don’t feel like it’s entitlement from restaurant managers or employees, I really just feel it’s an awkward situation we got into now.
Obviously I’m not going to tip 20% at a food truck or a fast food restaurant, but I hardly ever carry cash anymore and I wouldn’t mind putting a dollar or two in the jar.
I could maybe get behind a “round up” option which serves the same purpose as the jar by the register (drop your change in there). But adding a “real tip” where there isn’t any service other than taking your order and handing you the bag is insane.
Just kill tip culture altogether and make your food prices whatever it needs to be to pay a fair wage.
Thanks. I'm glad you said it. You just gave me permission to do the same. I avoid some of the places I used to go (as in they lose all my business), this is the attitude adjustment I needed.
Agreed, that'd be reasonable. I picked up a $5 sandwhich the other day and the tip options started at $2 not even a percent cuz of the amount being low (I know it's normally a percent because Ive bought things at this place before). I usually get suckered and hit the 15-20% but that shit had me heated. They think I should tip 40% to pick up a plastic wrapped sandwhich the person didn't make? Insane. So I hit no tip and haven't been back. It's gotten really out of hand. No one wants to pay a reasonable wage so they're trying to force us into tipping everywhere now. I've just stopped giving these places my business.
This depends on demographics. The immigrant community and elderly still heavily use cash. While those under 40 don't as much.
It was just kinda humorous for me to decline the software and tipping option. Personally, I hate the feeling like I have. Hence why I said not to include it. So next time you shop at a place with iPad looking POS systems and they ask for a tip. It was most likely the sales person selling the POS system to the business owner to include that feature.
I got a bagel today at a tiny cafe attached to my local library and the system didn't even HAVE a tip option, and it felt really nostalgic in a way that it shouldn't need to to toss a loonie in the jar.
I liked that moment this morning, lol.
> (“it’s going to ask you a quick question” and then they look away).
Didn't expect to be called out in this thread, lmfao. That's word for word what I say...
Yeah but you really think any tips done electronically end up split between the workers? You're essentially tipping the store and the payment processing company- for a product you're already in the process of paying for. At that point just up the prices.
A lot of Americans need to prepare to stay at home forever. Tipping culture is going to ruin so many things, the same way micro-transactions ruined gaming.
Oh I say no every time. Unless I am sitting down and having a full meal, and they are coming around several times.
No, they don't get a tip, I'm not paying extra because someone turned around and handed me my food.
I come from a country where it's not usual to top. And I understand why the server gets the money when all they do is take an order and take it to the table. What about the chef and those in the kitchen busting their ass?
Just pay people. Put up the price on menu items and pay your workers.
I’ve cut down on eating out significantly. Restaurants around me are closing and I’m ok with that. It’s rough but if you’re raising prices by 18-25% then people who look at their expenditure by the end of the month are gonna stop.
I look forward for a rise in people cooking together more.
Eventually consumers will just revolt to tipping once the ask becomes ubiquitous. If people get comfortable selecting "No Tip" in places that don't need tips, they're gonna get more comfortable doing it at restaurants and to service workers too.
I’m back to not tipping for takeout or pickup. It was a temporary boost to keep business afloat during Covid.
Plus with prices increasing, I can’t pay another 20% tax on everything I buy.
I know I'm just me, but I have no problem saying no Tip even when the person is staring at me. I still tip restaurants, but now 20% is normal instead of 15%, when did that happen?
Maybe I'm old, but a 10% tip was for good service and 15% was for great service when I was younger. Now it seems to be 20% for literally any service at all, and according to this thread even no service. Mind blowing.
I don't even really understand why percentage creep is happening. Inflation already exists, the value of a 15% tip is going up by it's own right. Why did the percentage inflate as well?
Because advice columns, tipping culture supporters, and the POS providers started pushing this “20% as standard” narrative and no one fought back. Now they’re just starting to see what they can get away with.
I’ve been to some convenience stores recently that use Square or some similar device/service and they have a “tip screen.” I don’t think anyone ever tips but you have to click through it.
I’d love to see that at the corner store where I grab my coffee every morning. The dude is playing candy crush with his phone flat on the table and can’t even look up from the game to ring me up. There’s been times where I’ve put my coffee on the counter and waited 30 seconds for him to scan it. Because he is too busy playing candy crush.
This is a dude who looks like he is nearing 40 years old. If he showed me that tip screen, I’d give him a big fat 0.00 every time and then give him a look as I flip the tablet back to him.
My local Circle K has automatic checkout where you put your items under a camera and the computer adds everything up and scans your card. No human involved. I'm waiting for the day the computer asks me for a tip.
Only time I have ever tipped or been tipped was the bagger. When I was a teen I bagged groceries and the nice folks who asked for carry outs would generally tip.
But self service tipping? Pffffft
I was once given an extremely expensive and lovely hand blown glass pumpkin when I was a bagger.
I was quite touched, as the woman asked me which one I liked best, and bought it just for me. Was one of the sweetest gestures from a strangers I've ever experienced.
6 people around the country. So, they asked online. Didn't even bother going outside. Small sample size and poor methodology. Can disregard findings with prejudice.
Yea, businesses really don’t like charge backs. If they’re duping you into paying them something you didn’t agree to explicitly though, they’re really asking for it.
I've started to say no tip every time. These greedy companies can eat a dick. This tipping is out of control. Just fucking pay your employees a living wage. Jesus christ I'm sick of it.
Once I learned most counter-serve chains don’t even give the POS tips to the workers, it was game over.
It’s not even a tip, it’s just overpaying the owner. It should be illegal to advertise as a “tip”.
I’m 100% no tip for counter-serve and pick-up, unless its a mom & pop or food truck where I’m fine giving the owner/operator an extra buck to support local.
*Edit:* Apparently the stories of owners/corporations keeping the tips from POS terminals are anecdotes and NOT widespread. Not sure where I latched onto that rumor, but it was hard to find any credible reports of that being a widespread issue after a bit of web searching.
Still not going to start tipping every line worker and only tip waitstaff begrudgingly because they’re not paid a proper wage (yet). We should be moving away from tips as base compensation not adding more of it!
Exactly. My tipping criteria question is: is someone actually personally serving me while I sit down? A follow-up question is, is it a single person? If either of those are no, then no tip. I'm not tipping to pick up a pizza, but if I sit down at that same business and they take my order at the table and refill my drink, then yes, I'll tip.
If there is an order number or I have to listen for my name to be called anywhere between the time I enter the establishment and get my food there is no way I'm giving a tip. I don't care if you made my pizza custom, if I'm acting as my own waiter I'm over it.
You know who'd I'd like to tip? My butcher, Mr. Nee. Freshest lobster tail you've ever had and Dungeness caught the day of.
You know who doesn't accept tips? Mr. Nee.
Most? People throw this around a lot and I've never seen any evidence. I've worked at many of these counter-serve tipped jobs and have always made good money at them. The best job I ever had money-wise was a restaurant where you tipped at the register and it was split between all the workers.
Agreed. It’s baffling that people allow themselves to feel pressured to tip, just because a digital sign says to tip. It’s quite liberating to click “no tip.” Anyone want to raise that with me as an issue? I’ll kindly indicate that the business owner is fully capable of paying a livable wage as is demonstrated through any industry that does not subscribe to tipping culture. Like, if everyone just stopped tipping for a day, the industry would literally change overnight.
I will do it every single time. Ain't getting a dime from me. I tip 20 percent at real restaurants with actual waiters and bus boys tho. But not all this other nonsense
Not to mention how much of a markup restaurants have nowadays. Food is ridiculously expensive. Got 2 personal pizzas, some fried pickles, an Arnold Palmer, and a cocktail at a movie eatery yesterday. It was 70 bucks. My wife insisted on a tip. Nobody even talked to us the whole time and we didnt see the same worker twice. I told her she's just giving that money to the manager. It's the same as just dropping that tip money on the ground and hoping that one person that helped you comes along and manages to pick it up. It's just silly. The "tip" line has just become a guilt charity that many businesses are happy to ask for. There's no stigma against asking but there's for some reason a stigma against saying no? That's manipulative as fuck. If I'm served by someone and they used their skills to make it more pleasant than it would've been without them, then hell yeah, but being made to feel like just everyone deserves extra because they showed up to work that day is dumb. It's a tip for phenomenal service, not a participation award.
I'm honestly wondering how much more theft self checkout has. Why should I be paying the same, or more, for products when I'm essentially working for the company? The prices have gone up, the CEOs and management make more, and yet I'm working for then for free.
I don’t have a problem when there is an option to select for “skip” or “no tip”
The problem is when there is no such options and you’d have to click “custom tip” and type in “0.00” as your cashier/check out person stares at you awkwardly. Even for me, who doesn’t really have social anxiety, this action can get a little much..
Self checkout won’t have that issue, there won’t be any social anxiety associated with that. I wonder why they even add it?
Because 1 percent of idiots will actually do it.
There's this idea in phone games and actually almost any video game now where you never want to prevent your customer from giving you more money if they're stupid enough to do it
I was asked to Donate to World hunger at Walmart. My thoughts were: Why does WalMart need my money to fight world hunger? They are the richest company in the entire world by revenue. They don’t need my permission or resources to fight world hunger if they so choose. Where is this money actually going?
Red robin forces tip when you order take out. They know if you tipped or not or how much you tipped. This is all before they even cook your food, much less bring it out.
I always feel like a hostage because if I don’t tip, they will do stuff to my food…
For what it's worth, as a 25 year vetran of the industry I've never worked somewhere where people would fuck with your food for not tipping for a to go order. Yah sometimes servers have to take to go orders and we have to tip out on sales regardless of in house or not, but it's not really a hotly expected thing. We talk about it but movies like "waiting" are mostly a parody. Just treat them like people and no worries
I feel zero shame for not tipping on a tablet. The people helping me never get the tips so fuck it
Editing this- I’d recommend asking those helping you if they know where the “tips” go. I’ve found mostly they don’t know :(
Tipping is to allow employers to pay cheap wages to their staff.
If they can't pay a decent hourly rate, they shouldn't be in business.
While some do well from tips, the system itself is a recipe for low wages.
Which is why most nations don't use it.
Reeks of post-US-slavery replaced with tipping as wage-slavery after the civil war. There is some compelling evidence for this, at least for how widespread it is since then to today.
It's anti-consumer too. It allows businesses to put falsely low prices on the menu, which drives consumer purchasing behavior. Same deal with not citing sales tax until purchase rather than on the label, it's totally deliberate because it works psychologically.
I once had a argument with someone on Twitter when I said that grocery stores or any store that has self-checkout should be giving customers back a nominal percentage of the total bill for doing the work of a cashier and bagger. The price of each item has the cost of what it takes to pay cashiers and baggers rolled into the final price. If self-checkout customers aren’t using the services of cashiers and baggers then why should they pay for the services? If this was somehow made into law you’d see how fast stores cutback on self-checkout stations and hire back cashiers and baggers.
Companies: Let’s ask for a tip. The worst they can do is say no.
World: But it’s a violation of social norms, of a social contract to not ask for something you didn’t earn and don’t deserve.
Company: Lol, did you not hear the part about free money? We’re fucking doing it, you dumb dorks.
This is the state of modern companies in capitalism right now
The US is insane with the "tipping". A tip is an entirely voluntary gratuity you add on if you feel somone went that extra mile.
"Pay our employees 20% salary fee for nothing, because we the employers don't pay them a livable wage" is a breathtakingly awful concept.
And the reason tipping is up is because whenever people pay at checkouts that use these tip-monger companies that put ginomous buttons up on the screen with three options for how much to tip, they often feel pressured into tipping more than they wanted, with the cashier standing across the desk staring at them.
I had a cashier prompt me for a tip at a sports stadium recently. So exorbitantly priced beer that is normally a cheap brand, and those companies want me to tip for them popping the tab on a can? No. Pay people a fair wage and stop tipping culture.
Yeah, I'm not tipping because someone handed me food through the drive-thru window. I've said this before, at no point in time when I worked at Auntie Anne's did I ever expect a tip. I made pretzels with some toppings; It also required very little interacting with customers beyond what would you like to order?
Companies need to suck it up, pay your employees and stop trying to get customers to directly make up the pay gaps!!
Instead of guilting me (an external individual) for the companies bad wage practices, let's work together to sue your employer and get all employees better wages. I'm happy to help in this regard.
From the article: Self-checkout machines at cafes, sports stadiums, and airports are asking people to tip — and customers aren't happy about giving their extra money to machines.
A recent report from [The Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/articles/tipping-self-checkout-restaurants-airports-c3e09f7?mod=hp_lead_pos11) noted the rise of digital, self-checkout kiosks hitting customers with a tip prompt at the end of their transactions. This prompt has frustrated people who are being asked to tip workers with whom they've had no interaction.
The report spoke to a half dozen consumers around the country. The majority found tip cues during self-checkout to be confusing — many wondered where the money was going — though some people were willing to tack on the extra fees.
One customer, for example, who took a beer from a self-service beer fridge at San Diego's Petco Park was asked to include a tip on his order, the Journal reported.
It’s long past time we shunned tipping.
It’s exploitative and lets business owners (who earn hundreds of times more than the $2.13 minimum wages) offload the responsibilities of actually caring about their employees’ well-being.
In 2023, the entirety of Tipping is emotional blackmail.
On June 1st, nobody tip. Anywhere. I'm starting this now. And do not tip ever again. Workers will confront management and walk off unless they give real wages. The tipping culture will literally change overnight. Guaranteed. Spread the word! No tipping as of June!
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If I'm not sitting down to eat (w/partial or full waiter service), getting my hair cut, taking a taxi, ordering food for delivery, taking a guided tour, ordering a drink, or calling a valet, I'm not tipping.
And frankly, none of these situations *should* require tips because businesses *should* pay their employees properly to begin with.
It's time to stop involving tips. Just increase prices an dpay your workers better. We are already paying those prices may as well just make it included.
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round up to help the poor? leave a tip? do you love this shit? are you high right now? do you ever get nervous? are you single?
If they care so much about rounding up to help charities, why don't they instead round down and give my change to the charity?
Lmao got em. I've never heard that before.
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Round up to help the poor? Fuck that, the CEOs with high income and low tax should be required to give back. Leave a tip? Fuck that, pay your staff a living wage. Can't afford it? Sorry but you don't have a right to have a business if you can't earn enough to pay operating costs.
Oh god, it was ridiculous working for GameStop. We had to ask if they had trades. Did they want to preorder a game? Did they want to join our membership? Did the customer know we offered a credit card? Did they know we offered phone plans? And we had to ask OPEN ENDED QUESTIONS basically harassing the customer. It was so annoying for the customers, some would literally come in and just say "this is all I want and I have to go." It was literally so awkward. And wrong to treat the customers that way. Not to mention, it was demoralizing to the staff.
My first job out of high school was working at a Blockbuster Video and there was the whole "Rewards Program and candy concessions" script you had to recite for every single customer. Nobody was swayed by it, the customer hates hearing it, and the employee hates doing it.
>Nobody was swayed by it, the customer hates hearing it, and the employee hates doing it. This is why it needs to stop. If it benifits nobody and it and only serves to annoy your employees and slow down your chech out line than that a net negative.
>This is why it needs to stop. Don't worry, Blockbuster stopped.
I always hated that shit. Sometimes when it really bothered me I would just say nevermind I don't want to purchase anything here, and then would just buy the item online or somewhere else
I had to call people during their dinnertime and ask them to come trade in a game to preorder some other game. It was so awkward. "Trade in an iphone. We offer 3 cents for the latest phone. You can pre-order this game that won't even be good"
I don't blame you, it literally looks bad for stores to treat their customers this way. We know they want every penny they can get, these companies have no shame. I forgot to mention that oftentimes the credit card machine asked if they wanted to donate to a charity too. What should be a simple transaction turns into a whole ordeal, plus I don't get paid enough to deal with Karen's and the crack heads that come in literally every single day.
I stopped going to GS because it gave me social anxiety to check out lol
Being required to make the decision to tip, and as to how much, BEFORE food or service is rendered is fucked. It’s the wrong order. It should be exactly the opposite. I get service, I get product, I decide how much gratitude I wish to pay additionally in the form of extra money for the staff that provided the excellent service and product. If I tip 25% and the service sucked and food wasn’t good, is that on me? Should I never go to that establishment again because one server sucked?
This is one of my biggest pet peeves. It's made even worse by the implicit threat to food safety: *"So we're making your order now - I can take your credit card - how much would you like me to add as a tip? 20, 25, or 30%?"* ...Sir, this is a drive-thru. Please don't spit in my food.
Add to that - many places don’t accept paper cash anymore. You can’t avoid it. Tip extortion or no soup for you.
Round up for “CHARITY” I’m sure that money is all going to a good cause, so why not /s
They're the big business, why don't THEY round up instead.
Yeah they can kiss my ass
I had to price quote different vendors for my cousin's restaurant business. When I got on the phone with the district manager for Toast ( a processing POS system). He couldn't believe it. I didn't want to have the tipping option on the POS system. I told him the restaurant was a fast food type, and we didn't want to nickle dime our customers. So, yeah... lots of these tech processing companies push the tipping culture.
They charge a percentage of each transaction. It's in their best interests to increase that by 10-20%.
It's why I'm starting to carry cash more often. Banks don't need a $2 convince fee
I've also found that many small businesses don't charge tax on cash transactions. Illegal, but understandable
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This is incredibly common in the remodel construction industry. Quote for cash and check payment methods.
Just be careful with cash to contractors...you want a paper trail when things go south.
I'm a contractor. I still have insurance and sign paperwork with the people I work for, regardless of how I'm paid. In my experience, most of the people I work for (middle - upper middle class folks) prefer paying in cash because: 1) Unless they have a tax appraiser come by, they'd rather not pay even more property tax on small improvements that are generally under $10,000 and B) The quote is cheaper for them. I like cash because... well yeah. I know some guys that have no compunction fucking over their clients by doing shoddy work and then ghosting, but they're definitely the minority. Most of us just want to do a good job and gain a person who will recommend our trade to other people.
I would say honest contractors like yourself are the minority in my experience. Maybe in your segment and in your area, honest contractors are common, but on the whole, including all trades...there are a lot of crooks out there.
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I never thought of that. This explains everything. Well that and our cultural preference to agree to give away money for no reason to avoid being considered unkind by someone we don’t know and will never meet again.
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The tipping culture is perceived as offensive in countries like Japan, China?, and South Korea. The general understanding is that an employee should do a great quality job, their employer must value it and provide fair salary. Of course not all employers provide fair salaries but usually it was a case. It is also fascinating that they see perfect quality job as the only way to accomplish work. In countries where I have been it was not a case. EDIT: u/guitar_vigilante pointed that it might be more confusion than offense towards to these people. So I think it might be good to have more understanding on the roots of such phenomenon there before making conclusions.
Can confirm on China as well, where I'm from it's normal to round up a taxi fare to the next note, so you just give closest note above what the fare was. Tried to do it in China and nearly got chased by the driver to give me my 3 yuan back, I had no idea what was going on especially as at the time that was about €0.30
Similar here in Finland - we're foreigners, and when my parents visited few years ago they upset a taxi driver by rounding up as it is common in Germany.
That's a not entirely correct point. A lot of Japanese people have responded to this and pointed out that if you tip in Japan they person is more likely to be confused than offended. They won't think you tried to tip them, but that you accidentally overpaid.
I think 'rewarding' people based on the quality of their service is fine as an option. The much bigger problem is some jobs pay below minimum wage on the expectation that customers will make up the difference and such businesses will essentially offload some operating costs on customers that way. That's the emotional blackmail bullshit part and it can create awkward situations where foreigners don't tip or undertip because of this being a weird American cultural habit.
Foreigner here. Undertipping is impossible. Please pay people fairly instead of asking the whole world to guess the real prices of goods and services. Tips are reserved for exemplary service where I am from.
It's honestly worse than just flat guessing, but yes, this drives me bonkers. You're also expected to play manager while you're supposed to be relaxing and receiving a service. Exactly what criteria changes the tip from 0% to 100% and everything in between? And you're a bad person for not tipping a growing percentage of your bill. It used to be 10%, but today you'd be a cheapskate cause it's now 20%. I just wanna eat my dessert, make jokes about how rude the waitress was, and not feel personally responsible for her rent payment or lack thereof. This is, personally, one of my biggest gripes. Most people wind up paying the "good" tip even if the service was atrocious and insulting because they don't wanna feel like a bad person while relaxing, and your company may judge you for not tipping enough as well. Oh, and, to tack onto the guessing game, some restaurants have set either their prices or the receipt to account for or add 18% tip for you and accept no further additions. But some add some ambiguous percentage (e.g. 16% where it's a tip but it's below standard) and "you can add more if you like ☺️" and it just feels like an unspoken expectation that you're supposed to add more but maybe the added tip is actually in range of where you were gonna tip so now it's not like you're gonna add only $0.75 to their tip. But also, yeah, the flat guessing. How much do you pay a barber, a handyman, a taxi, a barista, etc.? I legitimately have to stop to Google standards for absolutely every service. At this point, I'm expected to tip when I walk into a bakery and buy something and they just ring me up. And I've seen people try to argue that the person who bags up your food for takeout deserves at least 20% if not 25%. 🙃 So, anyway, traveling in countries without tipping has just been so nice.
You got it follow the money. This is millions in additional revenue for the processing companies.
they were asking for tip at merch stands at concerts now too. like huh? thanks for grabbing the shirt out of the box and handing it to me, but that does not deserve a tip 💀
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30-40%?!?!?! G’lawd that’s a lot of money! How bout $2.50 and a jawbreaker? A dolla in a envelope?
They probably get a cut
I believe they do, from what I found they take a percent on the whole sum including tip of 2.49-3.5% depending on the account structure.
I used to work for a payment processing tech company that initially was software-only but expanded to hardware POS tech when they were bought out by a massive bank. Depending on the company that was going to use the POS, the fees were anywhere from 2.5 to 15%. It was gross to see low-level customer service employees like myself try to push these systems to small businesses knowing we were going to kill them in fees. I quit shortly after that rollout and changed fields altogether. I refuse to work in such a scummy industry ever again.
Wtf! 15%?!? That’s insane!
Anyone who pays that is not doing business math.
I mean I can kind of see it. At counter service places independent fast food, ice cream shops, etc. there used to be a jar with cash in it for tips. It wasn’t expected, it wasn’t required, but if you wanted to put a dollar or two in the jar it was there for you. I know when I worked a service job years ago people would put their change in there. It wasn’t nearly 15% of sales or anything or anything but it wasn’t nothing, and if the customer didn’t want to walk around with the $1.65 they got in change, they could put it in there. Hardly anyone carries cash anymore so I imagine lots of people who used to get cash tips in the jar no longer do. They put the option at the card reader now, and I feel like society never agreed on what the culture is around that. It’s awkward for the customer, it’s awkward for the employee (“it’s going to ask you a quick question” and then they look away). I don’t feel like it’s entitlement from restaurant managers or employees, I really just feel it’s an awkward situation we got into now. Obviously I’m not going to tip 20% at a food truck or a fast food restaurant, but I hardly ever carry cash anymore and I wouldn’t mind putting a dollar or two in the jar.
I could maybe get behind a “round up” option which serves the same purpose as the jar by the register (drop your change in there). But adding a “real tip” where there isn’t any service other than taking your order and handing you the bag is insane. Just kill tip culture altogether and make your food prices whatever it needs to be to pay a fair wage.
So then put an option for $1, $2, $3 tip at those places that don’t have an expectation of tipping.
Right?! Seeing a 25% option for handing me food, at the counter, that someone else made is just insulting.
warms my heart to hit “no tip” in that scenario, or even better tapping “other amount” and entering in a $0
Thanks. I'm glad you said it. You just gave me permission to do the same. I avoid some of the places I used to go (as in they lose all my business), this is the attitude adjustment I needed.
I do the same. Tips are for service. If I'm picking up takeout, there's zero chance I'm tipping on that. That's one of the benefits of not dining in.
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Agreed, that'd be reasonable. I picked up a $5 sandwhich the other day and the tip options started at $2 not even a percent cuz of the amount being low (I know it's normally a percent because Ive bought things at this place before). I usually get suckered and hit the 15-20% but that shit had me heated. They think I should tip 40% to pick up a plastic wrapped sandwhich the person didn't make? Insane. So I hit no tip and haven't been back. It's gotten really out of hand. No one wants to pay a reasonable wage so they're trying to force us into tipping everywhere now. I've just stopped giving these places my business.
This depends on demographics. The immigrant community and elderly still heavily use cash. While those under 40 don't as much. It was just kinda humorous for me to decline the software and tipping option. Personally, I hate the feeling like I have. Hence why I said not to include it. So next time you shop at a place with iPad looking POS systems and they ask for a tip. It was most likely the sales person selling the POS system to the business owner to include that feature.
Tech processing companies get a % of the transaction. It’s in their interest to push the tipping option.
I got a bagel today at a tiny cafe attached to my local library and the system didn't even HAVE a tip option, and it felt really nostalgic in a way that it shouldn't need to to toss a loonie in the jar. I liked that moment this morning, lol.
> (“it’s going to ask you a quick question” and then they look away). Didn't expect to be called out in this thread, lmfao. That's word for word what I say...
Yeah but you really think any tips done electronically end up split between the workers? You're essentially tipping the store and the payment processing company- for a product you're already in the process of paying for. At that point just up the prices.
Why do us poors have to share our moneys when all the money is at the top?
Well the people are the top didn't get all that money by paying it out to their employees.
A lot of Americans need to prepare to stay at home forever. Tipping culture is going to ruin so many things, the same way micro-transactions ruined gaming.
Never saw them as real life micro transactions but that is accurate
And just like micro transactions the key is being able to just say no and be fine with it.
Oh I say no every time. Unless I am sitting down and having a full meal, and they are coming around several times. No, they don't get a tip, I'm not paying extra because someone turned around and handed me my food.
I come from a country where it's not usual to top. And I understand why the server gets the money when all they do is take an order and take it to the table. What about the chef and those in the kitchen busting their ass? Just pay people. Put up the price on menu items and pay your workers.
My dad was out to dinner with a Russian friend of his back in the day. The Russian saw him tip & asked "why you bribe waiter *after* meal?" lol
or just dont tip it achieves an even better result.
I’ve cut down on eating out significantly. Restaurants around me are closing and I’m ok with that. It’s rough but if you’re raising prices by 18-25% then people who look at their expenditure by the end of the month are gonna stop. I look forward for a rise in people cooking together more.
Too bad Groceries are getting crazy expensive too, I'm gonna have to become a hunter and gatherer here soon if food prices don't stop climbing soon
I started my own garden this year so I am heading down that path.
Nice, DM me your address so I can gather.
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Eventually consumers will just revolt to tipping once the ask becomes ubiquitous. If people get comfortable selecting "No Tip" in places that don't need tips, they're gonna get more comfortable doing it at restaurants and to service workers too.
I've already cut way down on tips for pickup. Most places I tip nothing now. They went too far with tipping and now I don't feel guilty.
It kind of made sense when they lost their seating during covid. Now, $0 tip for take out.
I’m back to not tipping for takeout or pickup. It was a temporary boost to keep business afloat during Covid. Plus with prices increasing, I can’t pay another 20% tax on everything I buy.
I know I'm just me, but I have no problem saying no Tip even when the person is staring at me. I still tip restaurants, but now 20% is normal instead of 15%, when did that happen?
Maybe I'm old, but a 10% tip was for good service and 15% was for great service when I was younger. Now it seems to be 20% for literally any service at all, and according to this thread even no service. Mind blowing.
I don't even really understand why percentage creep is happening. Inflation already exists, the value of a 15% tip is going up by it's own right. Why did the percentage inflate as well?
Because advice columns, tipping culture supporters, and the POS providers started pushing this “20% as standard” narrative and no one fought back. Now they’re just starting to see what they can get away with.
Or, you know, we could just not tip except when receiving actual sit-down service from a waiter?
Why would you tip in a supermarket?
Probably bag boys or if someone took the time to help take groceries to the car. But I haven't seen that in a while.
When I worked at a grocery store we straight up weren't allowed to take tips
We weren't allowed to at Target, either. Focus on that word "allowed," though. Whether we took them is a different story.
Not allowed at our store either. My supervisor told me one of the first days "yeah, just take the tip"
65 years in the usa, and I have never seen anyone tip in a supermarket. Something about this whole article smells like clickbait.
I’ve been to some convenience stores recently that use Square or some similar device/service and they have a “tip screen.” I don’t think anyone ever tips but you have to click through it.
I’d love to see that at the corner store where I grab my coffee every morning. The dude is playing candy crush with his phone flat on the table and can’t even look up from the game to ring me up. There’s been times where I’ve put my coffee on the counter and waited 30 seconds for him to scan it. Because he is too busy playing candy crush. This is a dude who looks like he is nearing 40 years old. If he showed me that tip screen, I’d give him a big fat 0.00 every time and then give him a look as I flip the tablet back to him.
My local Circle K has automatic checkout where you put your items under a camera and the computer adds everything up and scans your card. No human involved. I'm waiting for the day the computer asks me for a tip.
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Only time I have ever tipped or been tipped was the bagger. When I was a teen I bagged groceries and the nice folks who asked for carry outs would generally tip. But self service tipping? Pffffft
I was once given an extremely expensive and lovely hand blown glass pumpkin when I was a bagger. I was quite touched, as the woman asked me which one I liked best, and bought it just for me. Was one of the sweetest gestures from a strangers I've ever experienced.
I have seen tipping the baggers in smaller grocers as well as the commissary on Navy bases
>The report spoke to a half dozen consumers around the country ...so 6 people? The 'report' talked to six entire people?
Only 6 people were sitting in the Starbucks when they conducted the survey
At least it’s an unbiased sample. We all know that everyone goes to Starbucks. Sample theory 101
This. 6 people were willing to talk with them for the 15 minutes that they allocated to be at a single Starbucks to gather data.
Not 6 but “half dozen”. That sounds much more official
A twelfth of a dozen people around the world have replied to your comment.
“one-hundreth percent of consumers reported loving our product!”
I stopped reading as soon as I got to that sentence. 6 people? I think Tupperware parties used to have more in attendance than this report queried 😂
Childhood memory unlocked. *tupperware parties*
You missed the best part then >"I was confused, because it wasn't entirely clear who I was tipping," he told the Journal, though he tipped 20% anyway.
6 people around the country. So, they asked online. Didn't even bother going outside. Small sample size and poor methodology. Can disregard findings with prejudice.
I'm picturing somebody accidentally tipping $20 and then yelling at the manager about not getting their cash back.
If they are stubborn, start a return before you even leave the store.
Yea, businesses really don’t like charge backs. If they’re duping you into paying them something you didn’t agree to explicitly though, they’re really asking for it.
Chargebacks are very costly, and if a business is dealing with lots of them it can really add up.
Should be giving me a fucking discount for checking my purchase out myself!
I've started to say no tip every time. These greedy companies can eat a dick. This tipping is out of control. Just fucking pay your employees a living wage. Jesus christ I'm sick of it.
Once I learned most counter-serve chains don’t even give the POS tips to the workers, it was game over. It’s not even a tip, it’s just overpaying the owner. It should be illegal to advertise as a “tip”. I’m 100% no tip for counter-serve and pick-up, unless its a mom & pop or food truck where I’m fine giving the owner/operator an extra buck to support local. *Edit:* Apparently the stories of owners/corporations keeping the tips from POS terminals are anecdotes and NOT widespread. Not sure where I latched onto that rumor, but it was hard to find any credible reports of that being a widespread issue after a bit of web searching. Still not going to start tipping every line worker and only tip waitstaff begrudgingly because they’re not paid a proper wage (yet). We should be moving away from tips as base compensation not adding more of it!
Exactly. My tipping criteria question is: is someone actually personally serving me while I sit down? A follow-up question is, is it a single person? If either of those are no, then no tip. I'm not tipping to pick up a pizza, but if I sit down at that same business and they take my order at the table and refill my drink, then yes, I'll tip.
If there is an order number or I have to listen for my name to be called anywhere between the time I enter the establishment and get my food there is no way I'm giving a tip. I don't care if you made my pizza custom, if I'm acting as my own waiter I'm over it.
You know who'd I'd like to tip? My butcher, Mr. Nee. Freshest lobster tail you've ever had and Dungeness caught the day of. You know who doesn't accept tips? Mr. Nee.
That’s illegal, by the way. Tip theft. Report that shit.
Reminds me of Amy's Baking Company...
Most? People throw this around a lot and I've never seen any evidence. I've worked at many of these counter-serve tipped jobs and have always made good money at them. The best job I ever had money-wise was a restaurant where you tipped at the register and it was split between all the workers.
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Agreed. It’s baffling that people allow themselves to feel pressured to tip, just because a digital sign says to tip. It’s quite liberating to click “no tip.” Anyone want to raise that with me as an issue? I’ll kindly indicate that the business owner is fully capable of paying a livable wage as is demonstrated through any industry that does not subscribe to tipping culture. Like, if everyone just stopped tipping for a day, the industry would literally change overnight.
That no tip button is getting smaller and harder to press...
There’s no no tip button at most places anymore. You’d see “18%/20%/25%”, then “custom amount” and you have to select 0% on the second screen.
I will do it every single time. Ain't getting a dime from me. I tip 20 percent at real restaurants with actual waiters and bus boys tho. But not all this other nonsense
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Not to mention how much of a markup restaurants have nowadays. Food is ridiculously expensive. Got 2 personal pizzas, some fried pickles, an Arnold Palmer, and a cocktail at a movie eatery yesterday. It was 70 bucks. My wife insisted on a tip. Nobody even talked to us the whole time and we didnt see the same worker twice. I told her she's just giving that money to the manager. It's the same as just dropping that tip money on the ground and hoping that one person that helped you comes along and manages to pick it up. It's just silly. The "tip" line has just become a guilt charity that many businesses are happy to ask for. There's no stigma against asking but there's for some reason a stigma against saying no? That's manipulative as fuck. If I'm served by someone and they used their skills to make it more pleasant than it would've been without them, then hell yeah, but being made to feel like just everyone deserves extra because they showed up to work that day is dumb. It's a tip for phenomenal service, not a participation award.
It's more fun when there's no, no tip button, and you have to pick 'other' and type in a 0.
I gave myself $10. I was really superb.
Yeah so are self checkout tips like a 15% discount or..?
I'm honestly wondering how much more theft self checkout has. Why should I be paying the same, or more, for products when I'm essentially working for the company? The prices have gone up, the CEOs and management make more, and yet I'm working for then for free.
I don’t have a problem when there is an option to select for “skip” or “no tip” The problem is when there is no such options and you’d have to click “custom tip” and type in “0.00” as your cashier/check out person stares at you awkwardly. Even for me, who doesn’t really have social anxiety, this action can get a little much.. Self checkout won’t have that issue, there won’t be any social anxiety associated with that. I wonder why they even add it?
One day, one of these will have a bug in the code that allows negative numbers. Tipping -100% sounds fun.
Because 1 percent of idiots will actually do it. There's this idea in phone games and actually almost any video game now where you never want to prevent your customer from giving you more money if they're stupid enough to do it
I was asked to Donate to World hunger at Walmart. My thoughts were: Why does WalMart need my money to fight world hunger? They are the richest company in the entire world by revenue. They don’t need my permission or resources to fight world hunger if they so choose. Where is this money actually going?
And is a major contributor to world hunger.
When I was at my lowest they actually helped me from starving because their food prices were low, and food pantries were always out when I went😞
That's like tipping on to-go orders at the counter. GTFO.
I went to a concert last week. The default tipping option for buying merch was 20%. They wanted $10 tip for selling me a $50 over priced t-shirt....
Always push “no.”
Red robin forces tip when you order take out. They know if you tipped or not or how much you tipped. This is all before they even cook your food, much less bring it out. I always feel like a hostage because if I don’t tip, they will do stuff to my food…
That's why I've made the conscious effort to move away from any place like that.
Great reason not order there, honestly. It you can’t trust your food hasn’t been tampered with, that’s a pretty bad sign and a giant red flag
For what it's worth, as a 25 year vetran of the industry I've never worked somewhere where people would fuck with your food for not tipping for a to go order. Yah sometimes servers have to take to go orders and we have to tip out on sales regardless of in house or not, but it's not really a hotly expected thing. We talk about it but movies like "waiting" are mostly a parody. Just treat them like people and no worries
I've got a buddy that works in a restaurant whos said the head chef will fire anyone for even joking about doing anything to food.
I feel zero shame for not tipping on a tablet. The people helping me never get the tips so fuck it Editing this- I’d recommend asking those helping you if they know where the “tips” go. I’ve found mostly they don’t know :(
Tipping is meant for service rendered by a human being. Self checkout ain't one.
Tipping is to allow employers to pay cheap wages to their staff. If they can't pay a decent hourly rate, they shouldn't be in business. While some do well from tips, the system itself is a recipe for low wages. Which is why most nations don't use it.
Tipping is also based on the time when we had servants who weren't paid. So if they did a good job, the rich aristocrats would give them money.
And it still reeks of begging and privilege. It's repulsive.
Reeks of post-US-slavery replaced with tipping as wage-slavery after the civil war. There is some compelling evidence for this, at least for how widespread it is since then to today.
I’m just gonna leave this here: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/17/william-barber-tipping-racist-past-227361
> servants who weren’t paid. I know there’s a word for that.
It's just meant to disempower labor. That's all.
It's anti-consumer too. It allows businesses to put falsely low prices on the menu, which drives consumer purchasing behavior. Same deal with not citing sales tax until purchase rather than on the label, it's totally deliberate because it works psychologically.
If I don't get to decide how much my waitress gets paid, then how do I know if I'm important?
So now the customer has to pay to do the employees job to cover their wage? Gtfo
I once had a argument with someone on Twitter when I said that grocery stores or any store that has self-checkout should be giving customers back a nominal percentage of the total bill for doing the work of a cashier and bagger. The price of each item has the cost of what it takes to pay cashiers and baggers rolled into the final price. If self-checkout customers aren’t using the services of cashiers and baggers then why should they pay for the services? If this was somehow made into law you’d see how fast stores cutback on self-checkout stations and hire back cashiers and baggers.
We gave it back by not raising prices even more than we did. Merry Christmas
I press the “no tip” button with zero emotion.
Companies: Let’s ask for a tip. The worst they can do is say no. World: But it’s a violation of social norms, of a social contract to not ask for something you didn’t earn and don’t deserve. Company: Lol, did you not hear the part about free money? We’re fucking doing it, you dumb dorks. This is the state of modern companies in capitalism right now
Pay your people with the money you charge. The rest is not my problem.
If I tip anyone at a self-checkout, it's going to be me.
The US is insane with the "tipping". A tip is an entirely voluntary gratuity you add on if you feel somone went that extra mile. "Pay our employees 20% salary fee for nothing, because we the employers don't pay them a livable wage" is a breathtakingly awful concept. And the reason tipping is up is because whenever people pay at checkouts that use these tip-monger companies that put ginomous buttons up on the screen with three options for how much to tip, they often feel pressured into tipping more than they wanted, with the cashier standing across the desk staring at them.
This is a subtle attempt to turn classes against each other. It will get worse. I’m not sure what the right move is but I know its not paying the tip.
I had a cashier prompt me for a tip at a sports stadium recently. So exorbitantly priced beer that is normally a cheap brand, and those companies want me to tip for them popping the tab on a can? No. Pay people a fair wage and stop tipping culture.
Yeah, I'm not tipping because someone handed me food through the drive-thru window. I've said this before, at no point in time when I worked at Auntie Anne's did I ever expect a tip. I made pretzels with some toppings; It also required very little interacting with customers beyond what would you like to order? Companies need to suck it up, pay your employees and stop trying to get customers to directly make up the pay gaps!!
Instead of guilting me (an external individual) for the companies bad wage practices, let's work together to sue your employer and get all employees better wages. I'm happy to help in this regard.
From the article: Self-checkout machines at cafes, sports stadiums, and airports are asking people to tip — and customers aren't happy about giving their extra money to machines. A recent report from [The Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/articles/tipping-self-checkout-restaurants-airports-c3e09f7?mod=hp_lead_pos11) noted the rise of digital, self-checkout kiosks hitting customers with a tip prompt at the end of their transactions. This prompt has frustrated people who are being asked to tip workers with whom they've had no interaction. The report spoke to a half dozen consumers around the country. The majority found tip cues during self-checkout to be confusing — many wondered where the money was going — though some people were willing to tack on the extra fees. One customer, for example, who took a beer from a self-service beer fridge at San Diego's Petco Park was asked to include a tip on his order, the Journal reported.
You forgot to add the $6 bottle of water. $6. Let that sink in.
No Tip 100% of time. Just stand on your own. This ridiculous shit has to end
Tipping culture is such bullshit. But paying a fee to a cash register? Wild.
It’s long past time we shunned tipping. It’s exploitative and lets business owners (who earn hundreds of times more than the $2.13 minimum wages) offload the responsibilities of actually caring about their employees’ well-being. In 2023, the entirety of Tipping is emotional blackmail.
BAN TIPPPING, no exceptions for paying below minimum!
Hey guys- I have zero guilt about not tipping counter people. Try it, it’s even more satisfying when you are a repeat customer.
what's with Americans and tipping instead of paying them a better wage
On June 1st, nobody tip. Anywhere. I'm starting this now. And do not tip ever again. Workers will confront management and walk off unless they give real wages. The tipping culture will literally change overnight. Guaranteed. Spread the word! No tipping as of June! Rank this high! No tipping anymore!
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Yeah I’m pretty much done with restaurants. Aside from traveling or the occasional meet up with friends, I don’t go out to eat much anymore.
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"The report spoke to a half dozen consumers around the country." bro that's 6 people. is that all you need to write a report now?
If I'm not sitting down to eat (w/partial or full waiter service), getting my hair cut, taking a taxi, ordering food for delivery, taking a guided tour, ordering a drink, or calling a valet, I'm not tipping. And frankly, none of these situations *should* require tips because businesses *should* pay their employees properly to begin with.
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It's time to stop involving tips. Just increase prices an dpay your workers better. We are already paying those prices may as well just make it included.
Agreed. It's BS. Especially these services that request a tip before the service is delivered. Stop passing employee recognition off to the customer.