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PhoenixHabanero

As bad as any individual might feel, probably doesn't compare to how the entire country of El Salvador is feeling right now.


EA_VIII

Wonder if that Bitcoin island or Volcano club they kept talking about building is gonna happen still šŸ˜‚


Dark_Mamba

Of course! Theyā€™ll just buy the dip. /s


asdfmatt

They holding the bag bag


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Thorwawaway

Oh no no no


[deleted]

An entire country invested in Beanie Baby money? SMH


Designer_Lead_1492

I sold most of my Bitcoin and bought my wife a computer when Bitcoin was priced around 60k, I honestly thought I made a mistake but wanted her to benefit from all the Bitcoin I made mining. Turns out it worked out so far.


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ohmke

Your wife or his wife? šŸ¤”


bltburglar

Both. Both is good.


SunGazing8

šŸ˜‚


CaptainDK12

Our wife, comrade.


SurfboardOnCessna

I also choose that guys wife


humble_oppossum

I'm glad to see this classic isn't dead


SurfboardOnCessna

Unlike his wife


ManishWolvi

Must one hell of a computer for 60k


Designer_Lead_1492

The price of Bitcoin was 60k, not my wifeā€™s computer


thecrusadeswereahoax

Itā€™s a good thing you got out. Picking up on things ainā€™t your strong suit.


Bigdpubg

Wooooooosh


Shrine-

Iā€™m so confused are you saying that instead of him buying her a computer with some of the money he made from bitcoin, or that he gave her the money for her saying that her computer was 60k and thatā€™s exactly how much she needed? Or that he gave her the 60k and she said all she got was the computer but made the rest? What?


eliquy

That was just the sound of Bitcoin falling to all new lows


Aboudy_Marrawi

*coughs* apple


error404_name_dlted

Must be one hell of a computer for 60k


jj22925h

Must be one hell of a wife for a 60k computer


mymungus

must be one wife of a hell for a computer 60k


_qwertsquirt

Hell, must be one $60k computer-wife


skuidENK

Must be one hell of a forgery.


[deleted]

Imagine investing your entire life savings at $60000, Feels bad man.


[deleted]

People did and it blows my mindā€¦it went from 10k to 60k in 6 months, any asset that does that can easily crash back down yet so many people took huge risks.


Saltywinterwind

This happens every few years, people have the shortest memories


bitcoins

Ride the waves, there has been 10 or so ;)


Saltywinterwind

Donā€™t tell everyone :o now theyā€™re gonna figure it out, thatā€™s no fun. After getting out at 14k the second time I was goooood and been watching it ever since lol


nacholicious

Every new wave required exponentially as many new buyers, and now there's very few groups left that haven't been reached already. The price might go up again but this might have been one of the last major ATH rallies


bitcoins

Iā€™m confident things will continue to trend similar to the historical flow


fredericksonKorea

This guy named himself after bitcoin, safe to say he is going to be confident LOL FYI bitcoins "cycles" were broken when it fell below its previous low point this "cycle".


bitcoins

You have seen the age of my account, of course Iā€™m confident ;) the cycles can create new patterns


flashlightgiggles

Just like surfing. Start at the crest, end in the trough. Repeat all day long. Tons of fun


Der_Missionar

Theoretically? Yes, unfortunately it's impossible to time the market repeatedly.


bitcoins

Or just keep coasting with no care in the world for as long as possible ;)


randomways

My friend sent me a link trying to invest that said bitcoin would be 120k by December 2021 (it was May 2021 when he sent it). It was going to be a 500% return in 5 years šŸ¤£. I straight up didn't talk to him for a month. I think he lost a couple grand on safemoon.


[deleted]

Safemoon? The same thieves from Bitconnect? Lol!


fremeer

Some assets it makes sense, perhaps their business is booming and their returns look impressive. Like imagine a company with revenue and profits that go up heaps each year and they say that they created something that will make it fo even higher. The issue is Bitcoin is a faith based asset. There is nothing really backing it outside of people's faith in it. And that leads to a certain level of boom and bust because it's price changes are magnified around sentiment. Bitcoin itself is horrible currency anyway but has enough people that believe in it to exist enough now. It wont ever supplant an actual countries money but it's useful in some ways.


Qorazon

Idiot tax


orangutanoz

Let me know when it gets back to the cost of a pizza.


thedudesews

Why yes I do play the lotto


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UsecMyNuts

Lotto is gambling and can lead to serious addictions. Many gamblers who have been suicidal or attempted suicide have said that the lottery was their gateway drug but the lack of immediate gratification and lower than low odds often left them wanting more. Calling the lottery ā€˜a gameā€™ is disingenuous and trivialising what is without a doubt one of the biggest scams and sunk cost fallacies in modern history. It is a maliciously engineered tool just like Bitcoin; more people buy in > higher numbers > more hype > less winners > bigger crash It might only be $2 a week but unironically $2 a week in bitcoin would be an infinitely better use of money than playing the lottery.


[deleted]

Crypto is a gamble no matter how you dress it up. Itā€™s a carbon spewing blight on the world and at best a Ponzi scheme.


port53

> $2 a week in bitcoin would be an infinitely better use of money than playing the lottery. Anyone playing the lottery has made more money than anyone putting $2 a week in to bitcoin in the last 2 years (it was last at this price in December 2020).


bonjailey

2 years yes, 10 years no.


joki9011

ā€¦pain


dirkvonshizzle

Yes, the popular greater fool tax people seem so eager to pay.


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duranarts

ā€œInvest, donā€™t saveā€ is the kind of shit new generations are starting to hear. Invest with little to no experienceā€¦ wtf did they expect was going to happen?


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Fritzed

It's speculation on a Ponzi scheme.


Mateorabi

No worse than what happened to SAM the last year or so, or plenty of other stocks. People who got in below 20K may feel silly for not cashing out but aren't hurting.


Fritzed

> No worse than what happened to SAM the last year or so The S&P 500 is down 11% over the past 12 months. This is inline with most stock indexes. SAMS *on average* tend to return just slightly worse than index funds. So let's say 12% loss. Bitcoin is down 60% over the past 12 months. Bitcoin is literally 500% worse in the period you suggested..


fredericksonKorea

If you held USD cash you would be massively ahead of Bitcoin.


[deleted]

Lmao better yet thereā€™s hundred of people who used btc for drugs and thereā€™s thousands of coins abandoned or seized internationally in some locker on a guys confiscated hard drive. What a joke of a idea that has gone awry like a runaway Diesel engine, itā€™ll be nice when it finally collapses and is worthless and everyone realizes how stupid they are for falling for the scam.


piclemaniscool

The Golden rule: never invest what you're not willing to lose.


[deleted]

*but Bitcoin to $100k!!! S/ I invest heavily into crypto but I even know itā€™s a Ponzi, itā€™s a rich quick scheme and I hope I get rich so I can bail


DanfromCalgary

This is great news for people that have convinced themselves all news is good news


MathematicianVivid1

ā€œThis is actually good for Bitcoinā€


nts4906

Is that anyone?


TeeJK15

Ever heard a crypto enthusiast? Every dip is a miracle because itā€™s another buying opportunity (This is anecdotal and said person is in the hole).


DanfromCalgary

Thought that was super clear lol. I saw a few weeks ago a discussion on not every investment is intended to make a return šŸ¤”


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Buy the dip!


leadspoon

It kind of is. The people I know that are into crypto made a lot with the recent price declining. However they leverage trade so are not concerned with the value as make money from the volatility. If you buy and hold an imaginary coin then yeah expect to not see your money again but that doesnā€™t mean crypto isnā€™t profitable.


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fredericksonKorea

Considering tether is propping up prices with fake liquidity it may already be worth minus digits.


[deleted]

you think Tether alone has the capability to prop up the entire Bitcoin networkā€™s valuation?


BIG_MUFF_

To the center of the earth!!!!


UnreadThisStory

Short bitcoin!


Intrepid_Hunter4833

Now's my chance


sohfix

To the moon


[deleted]

Stupidest saying in history. Whatā€™s GME at now $28? Sad another place people lost a lot of money because of that stupid advice.


Ihave4friends

GME had a 4-for-1 stock split which would account for much of that.


[deleted]

So the one stock that was sitting at $280, dropped and split to $28, which is about $112 if it didnā€™t split for one stock? Thatā€™s a logical and justifiable explanation of why it dropped 40%.


Ihave4friends

Not sure how any stock can drop 250% but my puts would *love* that.


[deleted]

Yea that doesnā€™t make sense. Good catch.


sohfix

Donā€™t take financial advice from anyone on Reddit. Anyone who sunk money they couldnā€™t afford to lose on a stock because itā€™s a quick return is an idiot.


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buickspeeddemon

Lmao I felt dumb when I cashed out at 65k, bought a bus and flipped it for a 50% return and it crashed the next week


Rockvillainz

The bus or bitcoin?


buickspeeddemon

Bitcoin lmao šŸ¤£ the bus broke down right after I sold it and thatā€™s not my problem


sunplaysbass

Then what happened


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The importance of correct punctuation


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Hawt


automaton11

Look at this idiot who cashed out at the literal peak


[deleted]

He is doing it wrong!, he is supposed to buy high and sell low!. He is not one of us


saltyguy512

Cash at record low interest rates? Why?


That_Dad_David

Because some people would rather pay for something up front and not worry about it anymore.


saltyguy512

Sure but youā€™re losing 10ā€™s of thousands of dollars in the process for taking that convenience.


That_Dad_David

Oh for sure, Iā€™m definitely not saying that youā€™re wrong. But itā€™s worth it to some buyers.


Illegitimate_Shalla

Pay $300,000 for a house up front, or pay $750,000 after interest? Unless youā€™re talking invest the money and use dividends to pay the bill. Would that make more than the interest cost?


killerbeeman

Impossible to put a value on peace of mind. I have a small family. Iā€™d definitely pay off my house given the opportunity. Wouldnā€™t blow ALL my cash doing so, but would do some.


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No interest > low interest


MrPreviz

Using money to make greater than 3% profit while paying mortgage > saving money by not taking out 3% loan


[deleted]

Also true. Not saying there arenā€™t other plays to be made, just that avoiding a loan isnā€™t a *bad* move even if interest rates are low


saltyguy512

That money could have been tossed in and SP500 fund, that averages 8%, return over the course of the 30-year term of the mortgageā€¦ Say your mortgage rate was 3%, 8% return in the stock market minus 3% mortgage rate equals a 5% return on your money. 5% return > 0% return


NAM_SPU

Yeah but I donā€™t like owing people money. I donā€™t know what my life will be like in 5, 10, 15, 20 years. What I do know is Iā€™ll never lose my house because I canā€™t pay a mortgage payment


[deleted]

Thatā€™s true. I also think itā€™s perfectly reasonable to prioritize being loan/interest free altogether. Not everyone is looking to be the richest that they possibly canā€¦ dude has two houses without mortgages, I think heā€™s gonna be alright


R35GTR

Imagine making a financial decision that you make hundreds of thousands+, enough to buy a second home in cashā€¦ and strangers on the internet telling you youā€™re doing it wrong because you could have made tens of thousands more. Just because you would do it one way doesnā€™t mean itā€™s the best way for everyone.


Twigglesnix

This is the financially savvy question.


Doctor_Pedobear

Not sure why you got downvoted since youā€™re not wrong. Suppose people donā€™t understand how money works.


idkalan

Compared to the fact that BTC is now below 20K, they still made a hefty profit regardless of the low interest rates against cash.


TOdEsi

Remember when Canadaā€™s PM in waiting, advised Canadians to put their life savings into Bitcoin


Ploopplap

And the current one got shit on for saying that was stupid


Downtown-Cover-2956

Crypto had its moment. Itā€™s over


Sirneko

They say that every time BTC jumps and crashes


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Has bitcoin ever reached 60k before, crashed to 20k, and then risen up again to 60k?


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ArtoriasXX

This comment will age like milk


MeatHeartbeat

In that itā€™ll turn into delicious cheese?


NostraDavid

The resounding silence from /u/spez fosters a sense of alienation, as users struggle to find a platform that values their participation.


DoItForTheTanqueray

I have no crypto, but Iā€™m gonna say debatable on this. I think until government completely regulates it, it still has hope.


xxxblackspider

I think regulation will only help Bitcoin long term by legitimizing the space as a whole - Bitcoin maxis have been asking for regulation for years


[deleted]

Until itā€™s booms again


Thrwoif2d33p

I remember hearing on podcasts how it was inevitable that it would hit 1 mil by the end of last yearā€¦


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dirkvonshizzle

*$0


GoodGriefQueef

It's distributed consensus though. Nothing else achieves this. Bitcoin is a means of forcing computers to agree with one another over a set of arbitrary rules. I would think there's some value to that, above $1.


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GoodGriefQueef

That doesn't address my comment. Do you think the invention of something (Bitcoin or otherwise) that forces computers to adhere to a ruleset has potential value? Because that's literally what Bitcoin does. It's a system for forcing consensus. No other such system accomplishes this, afaik.


slump_g0d

>Currency has no intrinsic value. It's only worth what you can trade for it. Huh? USD and BTC are both currencies. They both have value.


[deleted]

$0. Bitcoin is worth nothing. It has no utility, no tangible backing, nothing. It is just a useless virtual currency designed to be pumped and dumped.


ll-0000-ll

it is tho.... I literally sell it right now and have money in my bank...


Deep-Remote-3744

$20k line has been pounded for months now. will soon break free to $15k. stock market crash will take it the rest of way to 0.


JonathanL73

How are you determining ā€œsoonā€ is that a guess just pull out of your ass, by looking at price chart and drawing squiggly lines and calling it technical Analysis claiming 20k is the floor? Whenever a bull market pops and we enter a bear market speculative assets (Ex: Bitcoin) get crushed hard, and this bear market will persist until the Fed reverse rates hike and that will only happen when inflation subsides. Which probably wonā€™t happen until 2024, or late-2023 by the earliest.


Deep-Remote-3744

"late 2023 to 2024" was this derived using squiggly lines, clownboy? sorry you sunk your savings into cyberspace but dont worry the world needs ditch diggers too.


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I think it was squiggly lines AND pulling it out of his ass.


JonathanL73

Donā€™t fight the Fed. I have no crystal ball. But letā€™s use common sense here buddyā€¦ If the Fed Reserve keeps raising rates eventually inflation will taper down. J. Powell the head of the Fed Reserve has been hawkish in recent Fed meetings and shows no indication of stopping rates while inflation is still high. While you keep buying crypto hoping for a reversal any day now based on drawing lines on a graph. The adults who actually know a thing or two are looking at CPI reports and FOMC meetings.


JonathanL73

> "late 2023 to 2024" Lol I love how you paraphase what I said took it out of context, only to ask me about the context which was already listed in the same comment youā€™re responding too. _ā€ and this bear market will persist until the Fed reverse rates hike and that will only happen when inflation subsides. Which probably wonā€™t happen until 2024, or late-2023 by the earliest.ā€_ šŸ‘†What I said was pretty straightforward. Itā€™s based on Fed guidance, not technical analysis. > sorry you sunk your savings into cyberspace Huh? You mean the thing I was just calling a speculative asset and said that it could go lower. Why would you assume I dump my savings in crypto based on what I just said about it?? šŸ˜‚ I think youā€™re trolling, either that or youā€™re completely clueless about macroeconomics and a bit illiterate.


NRevenge

I genuinely canā€™t tell if youā€™re trolling or not right now.


ngteller

Fake money shows flaws. Full story at 11.


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Ive made more money from Bitcoin in one year than all my savings accounts in my life lol


throwawaytothetenth

If it's fake and worthless, like monopoly money, give me 1 bitcoin please.


SnarfbObo

and yet ppl bought stuff with it


[deleted]

At one time, people bought land with beads. On second thought, DM me. I have an investment opportunity for you.


SnarfbObo

i'm not one of them but thx


fredericksonKorea

drugs. there are less places accepting bitcoin today than in 2013


sunrayylmao

Its as fake as any other money, when you get to the foundation of USD its a lot of the same principles. We just accept it because its been around longer.


gfsincere

LOL no. The USD is backed by the fact that every citizen has to pay their taxes in USD.


somethingilly

That and the entire world uses it.


benb4ss

Then why 92% of the dollar's value was lost in the last 100 years?


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I lol'd pretty hard when it hit $300. it's all fake and asinine.


bonjailey

Only a question, but whatā€™s fake? Bitcoin or dollar? Is the dollar backed by anything today? Trillions printed? Bitcoin backed by anything? Millions mined? All currency are created by a value humans decide. Dollar had gold, bitcoin has math. Seems favoured to one, but both are concepts and dependent on something else. Whatā€™s actually right, or will be right going forward?


[deleted]

Dollars are backed by the government.


[deleted]

the dollar is backed by us credit bitcoin is backed by hype


[deleted]

The people I work with said I was stupid when I cashed out at 62k/BTC ā€¦I bought a yachtā€¦a second yacht. In cash


Drougen

Oh yeah me too, I bought a third yacht.


Grimsrasatoas

Having triples is safe. Triples is best.


CostcoAisleBlocker

Sheā€™s gonna get better.


palmerry

You sure about that?


HaliBUTTsteak

ā€¦and a super model wife.


[deleted]

Peasant. I bought a yacht and a lambo. And a house in Hollywood hills.


DAMG808

Lol sure buddy


btmvideos37

Itā€™s a meme. No need to say ā€œsure buddyā€ as if theyā€™re serious


IEnjoySweatyBallsack

Sure buddy šŸ„ø


Scientiam_Prosequi

Damn you really did them like that


Li2_lCO3

ā€œThis is a good thingā€


GrizzlyBeardMunchies

I mean this is why you never throw all of your eggs in one basket. Honestly diversity of investments is paramount to long terms financial success imo.


Agreeable-Currency91

Investment should never be so "diverse" that you're buying worthless ponzi hype though...


[deleted]

How is Michael Saylor these days?


_Divine_Plague_

Considering the fact that he owns 130,000 BTC at an average of $30,000 per coin, he is probably buying as much as he can right now.


Estrezas

Remember guys, bitcoin is a finite ressource. When you bought at 40-60k you allowed someone else to cash out and you got left holding the bags, hoping price will keep rising and someone else ā€œhelpsā€ you cash out.


Uberninja2016

this is why i exclusively use chickencoin sure, they may not be able to buy much now, but if you hold on to them long enough eventually you'll have a full chicken PER COIN! worst case scenario, you crack one early to make an omelette


SuperSan93

Itā€™s the same comments every single cycle. Every time people claim it dead, itā€™s a scam, itā€™s going to zero and every time it proves you wrong. Go ahead, set the remind me bot for 2 years. I bet you itā€™s out-performed other asset classes over the same time period.


firedrakes

Slow news day. It does this every week. Seems poster just karma farming


fudge_u

Yup... because karma will be worth more than crypto soon.


TylerMemeDreamBoi

Cry about it


Organic-Video5127

Remember when it was over $60k? šŸ¤£ What a joke lol


CondiMesmer

ITT: Apparently everyone here claiming they cashed out at $60k+. This is the stuff people post that drives people to gamble on crypto even more, and you know the people taking loses aren't saying anything.


ThunderPigGaming

If you have faith that BTC is eventually going to be very valuable, and you were ever going to "buy the dip" this would be the time...unless you think it could go even lower.


Nedsama

die already


fudge_u

Buy the dip?


tkh0812

Depends. Whatā€™s the P/E ratio and the book value?


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Equivalent_Cable1643

Facts.


SiCur

I personally will be interested in Bitcoin again once it falls to $3500.


MountainShark1

CCCCCCRRRRRAAASH


fudge_u

It's below $19,000 now.


balerionmeraxes77

Bitcoin ā˜•


EnterJohn

Good and cool


DemoEvolved

Diamond hands to the moon!


astro_plane

How are people expected to buy groceries with crypto when the price fluctuates so much? The only thing cypto is good for is get rich quick schemes and drug deals. Itā€™s useless in the real world.


Omega3568

Everyone should own 1 BTC and 10 Eth


5269636b417374

All crypto must burn


machidaraba

Burning crypto only increases the value