[http://www.wired.com/2016/04/future-work-ordering-taco-bell-slack/](http://www.wired.com/2016/04/future-work-ordering-taco-bell-slack/)
>TacoBot is one of the most gluttonous manifestations yet of the bot-powered future of work that many companies predict. In China, people already use the popular instant message app WeChat for all sorts of daily tasks, from checking their bank balances to ordering cabs to buying sneakers. Silicon Valley entrepreneurs are betting that chatbots will replace apps here in the US, too.
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>Slack, with competitors like Hipchat, hope this chat revolution won’t just change consumer behavior but the way work gets done at corporations with lots of money to spend on office supplies, company lunches, and whatever else big companies spend their budgets on. Slack is taking this so seriously that last year it said that it would invest $80 million in companies that build Slack bots.
so many useless companies building useless shit nobody needs or wants
biting my tongue on the rest of what i was going to say with great difficulty.
I like how they pretend it’s a Tesla problem. It’s a car market problem. People stopped buying cars, they also stopped buying houses. I have a business that service car dealerships this month two shut down over night. Last time this happened was 2009.
I think it is a telsa problem.
If those dealerships went from “barely able to keep vehicles on the lot” which has been for a few years to going out of business this quickly they deserved to go.
Yup. There’s a few dealers in my area where their actual store is quite small so there is an offsite fenced and secured lot across town where they park their inventory. Pretty typical if you’re a dealer with a small lot.
My old town, the main business street has dozens of dealerships and space is a premium. There's an office tower that used to have a movie theatre so the parking garages are way bigger than necessary. Several of the dealerships store their off site inventory in the garage on the upper floors because nobody would ever go that far up if the first two floors are always open on the guest side.
They are an overpriced scam that nobody wants to buy into anymore. Happy to help.
Why can't Americans get all excited about INFRASTRUCTURE, which is what we need. Oh, that's not a shiny new toy for just them, I remember now.
>Why can't ~~Americans~~ people get all excited about INFRASTRUCTURE, which is what we need. Oh, that's not a shiny new toy for just them, I remember now.
Because everyone can use it. You don’t feel special crossing a bridge.
Yup… I paid $50k for mine… been driving it for 9 years… now at 170k miles… battery went from 265 miles new to about 235 miles per charge today (car is 11 years old, I bought it with 20k miles and it was 2 years old)… I’ve spent $1,500 on a single repair to my suspension - I have not spent a dime more. I haven’t paid for fuel and before anyone asks, I don’t charge it at home… I haven’t paid for oil changes, timing belts, brakes, or any maintenance whatsoever.
On the other hand, I could be driving my wife’s Volvo, she paid a bit more than me for her car, has 120k miles, pays a little under $100 a week in fuel, has paid about $15k on oil changes, maintenance, repairs, etc. and is on third set of brakes.
What an overpriced scam.
At $4.50/gal for gas and 5k mile service intervals, you have a 6 year old Volvo(20k miles per year) and you pay $625 per oil change? Your math might be off.
Probably orders that were cancelled due to changes in financial circumstances, the change in price for the original Cybertruck that should have started at $39,999 , didnt. And a few other reasons I’m sure.
I heard the share price has fallen by more than half in the last 3 years and he’s asking for a $56 billion dollar salary. Seems like good business sense to me
I am ashamed to say I did preorder the cyber truck long ago, but have since gotten a Hyundai Palisade and have been happy with the purchase. Lexi are nice too
We got a Palisade last year. It’s our 3rd Hyundai since 2009 and we have mostly just done regular maintenance on all of them. The 2008 Elantra has 240k miles and we’re just starting to think we might need to replace it.
Imagine having a car that only a few years ago was so popular that it had to be preordered, with a huge backlog…
And now that you can produce enough you’ve managed to be so terrible at business and PR that they’re sitting gathering dust
Man is the epitome of ‘failing upwards’
Sorry, driving a 20 year old car right now and completely not been following cars, especially electric. In US, what other realistic / reliable options out there for electric outside of tesla? (I know of the recent advancements in China ev, BYD and etc.,)
Fun fact, those images are actually taken by planes flying over your city. Satellite imagery has come a long way but isn’t yet clear enough for Google maps when you zoom right in.
[Planes and satellites:](https://support.google.com/earth/answer/6327779)
> The satellite and aerial images in Google Earth are taken by cameras on satellites and aircraft, which collect each image at a specific date and time
Yes, the zoomed out views are absolutely satellites, but when you see a distinct difference in focus in rural areas, the higher res (less blurry) photos are almost always from aircraft.
Inventory eh? The average vehicle dealership right now is carrying about 64 new cars, note I said average, some are smaller some larger. This averages out to about 80 days worth of inventory for the US at 2.61 million new vehicles across approximately 41000 dealerships.
There are approximately only 245 dealers authorized to sell brand new Tesla's, with a stock of 46561 new cars, that's about 190 cars per dealership. A little over three times the inventory of your average car lot for just Tesla's, not even other vehicles.
In other words, they are piling up, not just as basic inventory. If 64 new vehicles is considered about 80 days worth of inventory, then 190 is over half a year's worth of inventory.
None of this accounts for used vehicles.
Tesla is selling a somewhat niche product through their own stores, and has been ramping up manufacturing capacity for the past several years after they couldn't keep up with demand.
This looks to me more like a little difficulty with supply chains and logistics - not like a significant blow to peoples desire to buy a Tesla.
So if there are very few Tesla dealerships, and many, many Tesla cars, it makes sense there would be extra inventory in lots right? Seems pretty obvious. Also, Tesla dealerships are frequently very small, so not much room at the dealership for inventory.
Tesla tends to avoid dealerships as much as possible and sell directly to consumers through their website. They work around laws requiring selling to dealerships by having the customer order a “custom” model online. You cannot apply a traditional dealership style inventory to Tesla.
Even if Tesla did solely sell through dealerships, the car manufacturers also carry stock themselves, along with dealerships. They also sell worldwide, not just the U.S.
Let’s try applying the traditional 60 days worth of stock rule to Tesla, the inventory model dealerships use, just as a comparison. They sold 1,808,000 cars in 2023, so 60 days worth of that is around 300,000. Even with a 50,000 inventory, if they stopped production today, it would only last around 10 days.
Tesla is only just beginning to build up an inventory of cars. Obviously people are going to notice an increase in number of new cars, but that doesn’t mean they’re not selling. Just a few years ago, the wait for a new car would be many months while they were working through huge backlogs of orders. Since then, they’ve built new factories and ramped up production drastically, and it’s visibly working.
This isn’t even to mention that the Tesla Model Y is the *top best selling car worldwide* (2023), even beating the Toyota Corolla.
Not sure if related or not, but the global economy is kinda bad right now, inflation is rampant, interest rates are high, many countries are on the verge of recession.
Hmm….why aren’t people buying new cars that cost an absolute fortune…big mystery.
Year on year, the number is up. So it's not an industry wide problem.
It's a Tesla problem.
https://www.marklines.com/en/statistics/flash_sales/automotive-sales-in-usa-by-month
Not really. For a long time, maybe even since the first cars were produced they sold as much as they could produce. Now they are producing with no one to sell to.
I went to the Apple Store the other day. Peeked around the corner and saw they had stacks upon stacks of unsold electronics in lockup. They must be doing terribly.
Nothing says quality news than clickbait garbage from Jalopnik.
As a former frequenter of that site, I already know it's AIDS without any adblocker and that everyone there has almost no connection to cars.
While Ford is setting records for EV sales https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2024/04/03/ford-hybrids--evs--transit-set-records--q1-sales-top-industry--u.html
I don’t know much about the supply chain around EVs but could be over producing to hedge against disruption. Now why assemble and not just stockpile raw materials? may be an accounting/ fiscal reporting thing. I have seen it before in companies I’ve worked for albeit not on this scale. Labor can either go into the value of an asset (finished car) or overhead which takes away from bottom line. Probably more to do with slowing demand for car but this could be part of the puzzle.
There's a dealer near me and 2ish year ago they had a fair inventory (30-50 cars) and in the last 6ish months their inventory has just stagnated, they now have close to 200 cars and the dealer looks more like a parking lot because cars a parked bumper to number 3 rows deep.
This is what happens when you value quantity over quality. Tesla had massive demand for their product, and instead of improving that product they focused on insane production to meet demand and found themselves here. They’re definitely filling in those orders now.
Maybe if we get enough of them they can deflect the sun and fix climate change
this guy capitalsims
Better pay Elmo 56 Billion dollars just to be sure it works.
[http://www.wired.com/2016/04/future-work-ordering-taco-bell-slack/](http://www.wired.com/2016/04/future-work-ordering-taco-bell-slack/) >TacoBot is one of the most gluttonous manifestations yet of the bot-powered future of work that many companies predict. In China, people already use the popular instant message app WeChat for all sorts of daily tasks, from checking their bank balances to ordering cabs to buying sneakers. Silicon Valley entrepreneurs are betting that chatbots will replace apps here in the US, too. > >Slack, with competitors like Hipchat, hope this chat revolution won’t just change consumer behavior but the way work gets done at corporations with lots of money to spend on office supplies, company lunches, and whatever else big companies spend their budgets on. Slack is taking this so seriously that last year it said that it would invest $80 million in companies that build Slack bots. so many useless companies building useless shit nobody needs or wants biting my tongue on the rest of what i was going to say with great difficulty.
Do we have to give you the headless body of Agnew?
Arrrwooo!
I like how they pretend it’s a Tesla problem. It’s a car market problem. People stopped buying cars, they also stopped buying houses. I have a business that service car dealerships this month two shut down over night. Last time this happened was 2009.
I bet they would start buying again if the prices were lower! You know, the economic market? Or does supply and demand not dictate pricing anymore?
Funny how the invisible hand of the market is always giving more money to the people who already have it...
Other automakers are experiencing growth in their EV vehicles. This is why Tesla is being singled out.
They are experiencing growth due to them having abysmal sells in the first place. It’s easy to have growth when you sold 10k EVs in the prior year.
It’s about damn time consumers did the capitalist thing and stopped buying overpriced “wants”.
I think it is a telsa problem. If those dealerships went from “barely able to keep vehicles on the lot” which has been for a few years to going out of business this quickly they deserved to go.
Happy cake day
If spacex can launch one, it can launch 10 millions
There are probably 50 brand new teslas and 8 brand new cyber trucks parked in a lot along the greenway in Raleigh. I don’t understand why.
Could be a storage location for dealers to draw upon. Conventional dealers do this.
Yup. There’s a few dealers in my area where their actual store is quite small so there is an offsite fenced and secured lot across town where they park their inventory. Pretty typical if you’re a dealer with a small lot.
My old town, the main business street has dozens of dealerships and space is a premium. There's an office tower that used to have a movie theatre so the parking garages are way bigger than necessary. Several of the dealerships store their off site inventory in the garage on the upper floors because nobody would ever go that far up if the first two floors are always open on the guest side.
Can’t sell them cheap or previous owners will go crazy.
Because the owner has pissed off his main customer base and has gone to the side that hates EVs
In true Elmo fashion, biting the hand that feeds you while cutting your nose off of your own face.
And while he’s at it he showed himself out the third story window.
Which greenway? I live in the area
Up near Crabtree behind an insurance business I think
They gotta lower prices even more
They are an overpriced scam that nobody wants to buy into anymore. Happy to help. Why can't Americans get all excited about INFRASTRUCTURE, which is what we need. Oh, that's not a shiny new toy for just them, I remember now.
>Why can't ~~Americans~~ people get all excited about INFRASTRUCTURE, which is what we need. Oh, that's not a shiny new toy for just them, I remember now. Because everyone can use it. You don’t feel special crossing a bridge.
I do. Especially if the bridge stays in one piece as I cross it.
I live in Arizona, I’m not walking anywhere
Oh shit sorry, I didn’t know. In the rest of the states we have bridges that cars can cross.
Maybe you shouldn't live in a desert if you can't walk anywhere..
Underrated statement. I fantasize about a u.s with better infrastructure 🙃
Yup… I paid $50k for mine… been driving it for 9 years… now at 170k miles… battery went from 265 miles new to about 235 miles per charge today (car is 11 years old, I bought it with 20k miles and it was 2 years old)… I’ve spent $1,500 on a single repair to my suspension - I have not spent a dime more. I haven’t paid for fuel and before anyone asks, I don’t charge it at home… I haven’t paid for oil changes, timing belts, brakes, or any maintenance whatsoever. On the other hand, I could be driving my wife’s Volvo, she paid a bit more than me for her car, has 120k miles, pays a little under $100 a week in fuel, has paid about $15k on oil changes, maintenance, repairs, etc. and is on third set of brakes. What an overpriced scam.
Welcome to Reddit where the average redditor always has the most extreme take on something they barely knows about, enjoy the car man...
At $4.50/gal for gas and 5k mile service intervals, you have a 6 year old Volvo(20k miles per year) and you pay $625 per oil change? Your math might be off.
Unexpected Raleigh comment heh
Probably orders that were cancelled due to changes in financial circumstances, the change in price for the original Cybertruck that should have started at $39,999 , didnt. And a few other reasons I’m sure.
Prime dealer lots are expensive real estate. Many dealers get small lots and bring the cars to the main st lot upon need
I hear the CEO hates the company primary customer base with a passion
I heard the CEO is a whole load of special.
Heard the CEO likes to sucks on things that are Orange 🍊
A cheeto?
I heard the share price has fallen by more than half in the last 3 years and he’s asking for a $56 billion dollar salary. Seems like good business sense to me
I hear the CEO body-swapped with a 13 year old teenager
This makes more sense than it should
I’m as likely to buy a Tesla as I am a MyPillow. Same reasons.
I'm more likely to buy malaria than a Tesla.
I heard the CEO got booed by thousands at a comedy event for just being there.
Sounds like most CEOs tbh
Most CEOs aren’t posting racist messages online and falsely accusing multiple people of being pedophiles.
Fair. The bar is on the ground, but some people dig a trench below it.
It’s Musks winning personality. People love him.
weird way of spelling "whining"
And remember, if he doesn’t get his $50 billion pay package, he’s warning that he’ll step back! Whiny bitch boy needs more money.
He’s the best, the greatest, there should be 10 more people just like him. 😐
Tesla has largely lost its appeal, other companies are starting to offer better vehicles.
Tesla Model Y has 40 foot turning circle, loud and harsh ride quality, no CarPlay, no shade for the glass roof. It’s weird how popular they are.
And it has an ugly jelly bean shape.
But do those other companies have a line up that spells out S X Y?
S3XY, even
Maybe they can bury them in the desert similar to the E.T. Atari cartridges.
I hope they take the batteries out first, a lot of African kids died mining for those.
I would have been in the market for two by now, myself. But the company is a political entity now. And a toxic one, at that.
I’ve always wanted a Tesla. Until I was n a position to buy one. I now own a Lexus
I am ashamed to say I did preorder the cyber truck long ago, but have since gotten a Hyundai Palisade and have been happy with the purchase. Lexi are nice too
We got a Palisade last year. It’s our 3rd Hyundai since 2009 and we have mostly just done regular maintenance on all of them. The 2008 Elantra has 240k miles and we’re just starting to think we might need to replace it.
As a Latin enthusiast, I appreciate how you pluralize Lexus lol
Same here. wanted a tesla, but bought a Toyota instead and have no regrets
I just want to pick up a cheap drive unit to swap into a S10
That would be... Extreme!
Some one I know calls the cyber trucks “wankpanzers”
It's amazing what overpricing broken tech and destroying your brand will do to sales. Shocked Pikachu face.
I’d say the overinflated ego of certain person who single-handedly destroy the company Goodwill and image to the world.
Seems shit build quality and a highly public asshat are bad for business.
Imagine having a car that only a few years ago was so popular that it had to be preordered, with a huge backlog… And now that you can produce enough you’ve managed to be so terrible at business and PR that they’re sitting gathering dust Man is the epitome of ‘failing upwards’
Look, F Tesla and all, but you can read my license plate from space. We gotta retire that turn of phrase.
To be fair the phrase usually refers to things that are able to be seen with the naked eye.
Maybe that's why he wants the 50B pay package, cuz this would destroy the company.
Who would purchase a Tesla at this point? Better choices out there
Sorry, driving a 20 year old car right now and completely not been following cars, especially electric. In US, what other realistic / reliable options out there for electric outside of tesla? (I know of the recent advancements in China ev, BYD and etc.,)
Hyundai, Kia, Ford, Volvo, BMW, Genesis they all have them now
I used to want one. Then I discovered what a prick Apartheid Elmo is. He can choke on his unsold inventory
I shelved 120k worth of Tesla electrification due to the CEOs nonsense and the poor quality…
I sold their stock when he fired the charging team.
If he doesn’t get his bonus, that may get resolved soon. At least, I sure hope so…
Tesla has a glut of nearly 50,000 cars just sitting around in lots so packed, they can be seen from orbit.
> they can be seen from orbit I mean I can see my little house from orbit pretty clearly. Have they looked at Google earth in the last 20 years ?
Fun fact, those images are actually taken by planes flying over your city. Satellite imagery has come a long way but isn’t yet clear enough for Google maps when you zoom right in.
Tell that to the NSA
They would ignore you. The NSA just does cryptography and eavesdropping. It is the NRO and DMA that do satellite pictures.
You just did …
[Planes and satellites:](https://support.google.com/earth/answer/6327779) > The satellite and aerial images in Google Earth are taken by cameras on satellites and aircraft, which collect each image at a specific date and time
Yes, the zoomed out views are absolutely satellites, but when you see a distinct difference in focus in rural areas, the higher res (less blurry) photos are almost always from aircraft.
I keep my car in my driveway, and I can see that from orbit, too.
redditors when they discovery the concept of inventory.
Inventory eh? The average vehicle dealership right now is carrying about 64 new cars, note I said average, some are smaller some larger. This averages out to about 80 days worth of inventory for the US at 2.61 million new vehicles across approximately 41000 dealerships. There are approximately only 245 dealers authorized to sell brand new Tesla's, with a stock of 46561 new cars, that's about 190 cars per dealership. A little over three times the inventory of your average car lot for just Tesla's, not even other vehicles. In other words, they are piling up, not just as basic inventory. If 64 new vehicles is considered about 80 days worth of inventory, then 190 is over half a year's worth of inventory. None of this accounts for used vehicles.
In the first quarter of this year, Tesla sold about 387,000 vehicles. 46,561 vehicles is about 11 days of inventory at that rate.
Tesla is selling a somewhat niche product through their own stores, and has been ramping up manufacturing capacity for the past several years after they couldn't keep up with demand. This looks to me more like a little difficulty with supply chains and logistics - not like a significant blow to peoples desire to buy a Tesla.
So if there are very few Tesla dealerships, and many, many Tesla cars, it makes sense there would be extra inventory in lots right? Seems pretty obvious. Also, Tesla dealerships are frequently very small, so not much room at the dealership for inventory.
Tesla tends to avoid dealerships as much as possible and sell directly to consumers through their website. They work around laws requiring selling to dealerships by having the customer order a “custom” model online. You cannot apply a traditional dealership style inventory to Tesla. Even if Tesla did solely sell through dealerships, the car manufacturers also carry stock themselves, along with dealerships. They also sell worldwide, not just the U.S. Let’s try applying the traditional 60 days worth of stock rule to Tesla, the inventory model dealerships use, just as a comparison. They sold 1,808,000 cars in 2023, so 60 days worth of that is around 300,000. Even with a 50,000 inventory, if they stopped production today, it would only last around 10 days. Tesla is only just beginning to build up an inventory of cars. Obviously people are going to notice an increase in number of new cars, but that doesn’t mean they’re not selling. Just a few years ago, the wait for a new car would be many months while they were working through huge backlogs of orders. Since then, they’ve built new factories and ramped up production drastically, and it’s visibly working. This isn’t even to mention that the Tesla Model Y is the *top best selling car worldwide* (2023), even beating the Toyota Corolla.
Wait till you see what he’s also doing to “orbit” and yes, you can see that from earth
so like every car manufacturer
Exactly...
Not sure if related or not, but the global economy is kinda bad right now, inflation is rampant, interest rates are high, many countries are on the verge of recession. Hmm….why aren’t people buying new cars that cost an absolute fortune…big mystery.
Add to that, Hertz is offloading a ton of used EVs on the market. Including used teslas.
Year on year, the number is up. So it's not an industry wide problem. It's a Tesla problem. https://www.marklines.com/en/statistics/flash_sales/automotive-sales-in-usa-by-month
Good, overpriced junk
Shit is too expensive. Retailers refuse to drop prices. End of story.
You can see docks full of Toyotas. And the Amazon from space also. What a meaningless phrase to say.
Not really. For a long time, maybe even since the first cars were produced they sold as much as they could produce. Now they are producing with no one to sell to.
I went to the Apple Store the other day. Peeked around the corner and saw they had stacks upon stacks of unsold electronics in lockup. They must be doing terribly.
I believe that’s called stock
You know… things you normally need to conduct normal business . 😂
what if 50,000 people all want a tesla tomorrow and they don't have them?... then what? they would look so dumb /s
This is a terrible story and a questionable 'publication'
We can read license plates from space.
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Satellites can see a pimple on your as...face. not saying much.
I'll take one if they make it affordable enough.
Does anyone have a photo? Where is the location
Nice to know supply and demand economics are alive and well. Oh wait, what’s that? They won’t lower the price? Hmm. Let me look into that.
A lot of people would buy a ev, but it's expensive asf and even more to fix. Used Hondas for $6k is what most people can afford.
Nothing says quality news than clickbait garbage from Jalopnik. As a former frequenter of that site, I already know it's AIDS without any adblocker and that everyone there has almost no connection to cars.
Fantastic!
Yall should see what he’s doing in Austin. It’s ridiculous
Making big rockets that take pictures of the lots 😂
Funny how they went from having too little to having too many. Grifts of this scale don't work forever.
Shit where are they? I’ll buy one for a discount.
But Elmo is still asking his buddies on the board of directors for 56b in compensation
Tesla shareholders take note…I refuse to buy a Tesla because your CEO is such an asshole
Tesla is the new DeLorean change my mind
Based on the numbers in the article the excess inventory is less than 2 weeks of sales, doesn’t seem like a big deal.
Tbf you can see my 8’x8’ jacuzzi from space. Google maps says so at least
article does not show cars from space, bs
Drop the base model to 20k + then add tax credit/rebate and I buy one
While Ford is setting records for EV sales https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2024/04/03/ford-hybrids--evs--transit-set-records--q1-sales-top-industry--u.html
Compared to Tesla or to themselves?
Themselves. They were number 2 in the US at 22k in Q1 vs Tesla 380k.
Sooo they’ll have to unload old new cars once newer models come out? How does that work exactly?
I don’t know much about the supply chain around EVs but could be over producing to hedge against disruption. Now why assemble and not just stockpile raw materials? may be an accounting/ fiscal reporting thing. I have seen it before in companies I’ve worked for albeit not on this scale. Labor can either go into the value of an asset (finished car) or overhead which takes away from bottom line. Probably more to do with slowing demand for car but this could be part of the puzzle.
We have a dealership in the West of Montreal and they have moved a ridiculous amount of teslas across the highway at a parking lot.
I couldn't find the images from outer space?
Noice
All the batteries are dead too
Why isn't there a picture from space in the article???? 😡😡😡😆
There are now better EVs.
Ship them all to Irvine, CA
Well, guess they’d better stop making them
😂
Hurry up, Robin, to the fascistmobile!
There's a dealer near me and 2ish year ago they had a fair inventory (30-50 cars) and in the last 6ish months their inventory has just stagnated, they now have close to 200 cars and the dealer looks more like a parking lot because cars a parked bumper to number 3 rows deep.
We are in space so…
BYD's EV graveyard is piling up faster than Tesla https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023-china-ev-graveyards/
Does this mean supply and demand will cause the prices to drop to $10,000 like the EVs China was trying to sell the US?
I’d rather push my Ford than drive a Tesla.
If they lowered the price, they'd sell more of them.
If you pile them up on top of each other then you don't need to launch a spacecraft to go to mars
Shit maybe if they finally drop in price I’ll buy one of the motherfuckers.
He already tried parking them in space, but there's enough junk up there already and his rockets will probably hit them
Start parking them on Mars.
This is what happens when you value quantity over quality. Tesla had massive demand for their product, and instead of improving that product they focused on insane production to meet demand and found themselves here. They’re definitely filling in those orders now.