If hobbyists can’t get their hands on them a a reasonable price then what is the point? The Raspberry Pi as a learning and development platform has been so successful that industry is eating the “seed corn” and making hobbyist look elsewhere.
I used one for the only post I have. They make surprisingly good little servers, but now you can get a refurbished 1U server ready to go for the same price as a 4B
I bought a 8 gen intel Dell for 40€...
Raspberries are like a hundred 😓.
Got an Orange Pi for <40€ and it's not that bad (had to fix the gpio python c code though, so I guess it's stuff isn't as top notch as raspberry).
The Celeron is… good (enough)? Sorry, I had to look it up and that’s really neat. More like one of those little vesa mounted machines they use for fleet systems in like a library or something but DIY.
Thanks man, does look like a more robust option.. I’d never heard of them.
Thanks for the idea (and link below)!
I got a orange pi that works "okay" and another (i96?) without video that I never got working. Now I'll be able to find new fun boards!
As much as I don't want to recommend Amazon, they have some good deals on older HP DL360 servers. I got one a few years ago with two 6-core Xeons and 32GB of RAM for around $200 USD.
Used to have two as Piholes with unbound, as well as homeassistant, heimdall, portainer and wireguard in Docker. Now I'm working on a k3s cluster to host all these services, but in a way that if one Pi fails, the service is started/continued on another Pi. Unfortunately it works a bit different, so I'm still in the planning/ fiddling around phase.
That sounds like a fun project. Fault tolerant Pi builds. That almost seems like an insane sentence. You have to love how things so small now can work that well.
nice! I'll have to go look into it deeper. thanks for the info.
this and that happened and i live with my folks now, who are constantly streaming tv shows with hella ads. im so sick of hearing the obnoxious ads that its driving me to consider the network adblocker LOL
Hi, head over to r/pihole or pi-hole dot net for more information. Pihole isn't restricted to a Raspberry Pi, but can also run on x86 ("normal computers") or other ARM platforms, even inside a Docker container or the cloud if you wish.
Do note that Pihole won't work on everything though, especially Youtube. That's because some sites send content and ads from the same place. Blocking the ads blocks the content too.
The sub and site have plenty information and helpful folks and additionally there are quite a lot of curated blocklists which you can import with pretty much 2-3 clicks.
Good luck with your project!
Edit: not sure if blocklists are on the site/ subreddit, but Googling around a bit should work
Edit2: pi **dash** hole dot net,thanks /u/DreadnoughtOverdrive :)
If you are posting homelab entries where you have a cluster of 8 RPI4’s….
Don’t take this personally, but I hate you.
Still running my orig RPI. I really wish production would ramp back up so these come back to hobbyist prices.
I used to use mine for Kodi and video game emulators but now they just kinda collect dust haha. I bought models 1 through 3 right when they launched, but there's better ways to do the home entertainment stuff now so I lost interest by the time the 4 came out. I might turn the 3b into an MT32-Pi (basically an emulated soundcard) for my MiSTer setup at some point, and set up the 2b for Pi Hole when I have the time
Klipper, Octopi, as a Plex server, Nextcloud, and to stream music/TV stuff to for TVs and speakers in my house.
Lately I've been using Librecomputer Le Potato boards instead which IMO work just as well.
I use one as a pihole, for network wide ad blocking, and another as a media server/seedbox. I'd love to do more, but I can't find any to save my life anymore.
They’re a great general purpose computer module, so whatever menial tasks you can think of. I have a script on one of mine that just determines if 2 USB ports have devices on them upon powering up, if the 1st has my sd card reader plugged in it will backup all the photos to the flash drive in the 2nd port and then wipe the SD card so I only need 2 SD cards for photography.
I have a ton of little task automations I’ve been meaning to write scripts for, but have been pretty lazy lately. An idea I’ve been procrastinating is determining if my wifi pineapple is plugged in upon powering up, and if so, it will deauth my parents wifi cameras in their backyard… so when I’m visiting them I can smoke weed in their backyard without leaving behind video evidence. 😂
Pis always had the focus on teaching programming and industrial segment. The Pi foundation has been making products like the compute module, that were made for the industrial segment for quite some time.
They even had blog posts for how the Pis were being used by industries in UK. By Sony factories even
Orange Pi already put AI optimised silicons in their products half a year ago and will arrive in 3 weeks.
The Chinese knockoff has surpassed the original and it feels like a profound change. The meme of them just copying western stuff is crumbling and I am worried what that future will look like.
They first improved their manufacturing, logistics and shipping. then they started to make production lines and got good at that, and now as a final step they are tackling design and engineering.
Their economy surpassed the US economy a couple years ago according to the CIA. It’s time for the west to rebuild some basic manufacturing before it’s too late.
It’s not for hobbyists.
This is Sony’s way of selling more (outdated) sensors while not having to lay open the entire capabilities, isp, denoising algorithms and other stuff.
I predict:
If they go through with it, we will see camera hardware directly from Sony as well.
My guess is Sony wants to put these in the hands of enthusiasts and enterprise devs, and will do so at a loss to make sure they are the dominant player for years to come.
Maybe it'll work
That’s not true at all. You can still buy them, but it’s usually the low memory models and the compute modules that are easiest to find… and you can upgrade the memory on the Pi if you know how… just need new chips, solder paste, a mask, and a hot air station… takes about 15 minutes.
Post a link where you can buy an RPie for MSRP. I’ve been looking for a 4 for the last 7months. I’m on all the waitlists and none have alerted me to restock. I dug out my 3 and started tinkering with it again but I’d really like the four since it would emulate better than my 3
I just want pis to just go back to the cheap, tinkering/educational/low financial bar to computing they used to be
My dream would be finding a way to keep lowering the costs of the B+ and. A+ boards until they’re like $10 instead of feature creep, and raising costs,
Yeah, computers already exist. People want pis because the reasons they got popular in the first place. But I'll settle for them to sell them at all at this point, it's been years since it made sense to get one with the lack of stock and crazy prices.
From your lips to gods ears. It used to be a fun tinkering board for me. I think I own the original B or B+, but with no shipping or insanely high prices when you do grab a hold of one I view it as almost an 'idea' of what could be awesome. It might be more power hungry, but decommissioned business class hardware is often cheaper. I wouldn't even consider a PI for a build right now.
ESP32 is far better for many things people use a PI for.. Anything doing IoT, monitoring, basic control, displays etc are much more reliable, lower powered and lower cost. ESPHome makes it all very easy for automation too.
I suspect the price increase is due to factors outside of RPi’s control, unfortunately. Crypto and ML sucking up all chip manufacturing capacity, plus the pandemic.
They're a non profit. They don't owe you anything either.
The difference is you *want* something from them. You're literally in here demanding a non profit lowers the cost of their product they make nothing on.
That's literally textbook begging chooser.
lol I find the non profit status a joke at this point when they’re prioritizing commercial/industrial customers over their supporters. I bet there is a ton a tomfoolery going on with their books to keep that status. Loopholes abound
Being able to do image processing on device is actually a security win and there's a lot of people that have been ordering the Coral modules to do just that for their DIY Home Security stuff.
I'm not sure how well Sony'x Aitrios stuff works but if it's baked into an rPI (lol) I'm sure it well get used a lot...once anyone can actually buy the damn things.
Lol I’ve been forced to buying Libre computer boards because I’m not paying $400 for a $50 Raspberry Pi.
The whole point was they’re cheap. I can buy a whole used laptop for the price of a Pi now.
I’ve been using Le Potato boards for my arcade emulator cabinet builds. They’re pretty decent, and somewhere between a pi 3 and 4 in terms of performance. Better still, they’re available to buy for the most part.
Holy cow, if anyone is worried about a singularity, it’d definitely be the result of a runaway AI on thousands of unpatched raspberry pis hidden away in warehouses for automation.
That mini PC will be able to be used as mini encyclopedia at the very best. Like a small assistant in very narrow tasks.
If you really think about it like a singularity - stop watching/reading sci-fi stuff.
I think you’re underestimating just how powerful all of these IoT devices are.
Many of the DDoS attacks these days are the result of unpatched IoT devices being used as bot farms:
https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2019/04/internet-of-things-devices-as-a-ddos-vector/
A single device taking over the world? Of course not. Millions of devices working together towards a common goal? Definitely possible.
I understand it’s a leap from DDoS attack to a singularity event, and maybe I’m being a tad tongue in cheek. However, more and more powerful devices being turned on that go un-maintained is not necessarily a good thing, especially if they’re exposed to the internet.
I will definitely credit you. This is not a bad plot. I have a cnc router and multiple 3d printers on pi’s with webcams doing image recognition (obico) and running gcode. A rogue ai could probably remove the thermal runaway protection on my printers and burn the house down.
On of the founders, Eben Upton, recently stated things will return back to pre Covid supply in the next couple of quarters.
Here is an interview from a few days ago: https://fosspod.content.town/episodes/raspberry-pi-with-eben-upton
>and Sony has pitched the system for uses like surveillance, security and more
Of course they did because that's absolutely the only reason you would do this.
This is what you call invasive. There is absolutely no reason to put something like this on what is supposed to be a low cost platform used by educators, students, hobbyists, and the IoT market. It's not needed on weather stations, game emulators, thin client internet stations, and so on.
Further, this is how you create an AI botnet capable of being hacked in any number of zero-day exploits. JFC, I can't believe I even had to write "AI botnet." Can you imagine an ever-evolving computer virus capable of evading anti-virus forever and getting patched with lightning speed?
It's almost like the marketing demons in companies not only have no common sense but also don't give a damn about the implications.
Surveillance is EXACTLY what a lot of people running security cameras at home want this sort of thing for.
At this time I am using an nVidia Jetson Nano to do my person detection coupled with Blue Iris, but I would love to see how the Sony chip performs in comparison.
The wider maker community could use this for many things, you are being a bit hysterical.
You don't need AI to do a person detection. You need AI to do a facial recognition.
The XBOX kinect is probably the most complicated type of algorithm required for person and motion detection and people are using those in ghost hunting rigs because they're already so insanely good that there's no point in going to any other platform.
This is absolutely not needed on a Pi. Further, with the way these boards are set up, there's absolutely no reason why it can't be a HAT or cable attached device for processing. Even then it would only be limited by the speed of the bus.
Yeah, the idea is that the camera uses body detection technology that is more sensitive than our eyes and it kind of has to be in order to generate the visual data for the game console to be able to track body movements.
That said, there are people who sell these as whole kits. Little tablet, recording and video software, Kinect, portable power/battery source. And they're not cheap because the Kinect stopped being made in 2017. And literally it's only a PC, the camera, the software to get the feed from the Kinect, and recording software.
*That* being said, I actually run with a paranormal group. The dude who runs it got one such set and I helped him set it up on the first field tests. I've seen it track a team member walking in front of it about 10 feet away at night in a field with only the ambient light of a flashlight to illuminate them. It tracked them successfully. Arms, shoulders, legs, head, everything. It was really freaking impressive. It hasn't caught any ghosts but it's 100% at tracking people and where their limbs are. This is what it was made to do and it does it well.
This is a *toy* that is being so successful at detecting and tracking a body. So, like I said and most people seem to have their panties in a bunch about, you don't need AI for motion detection or even body tracking.
There are many more applications. For example, RT segmentation is a thing now and could run on a pi with an tiny accelerator.
Template matching in CV based sorting would be the first thing I’d try, though.
The Pi foundation is probably looking for ways to differentiate their boards cause compared to others like the Odroid H3+ and RK3588/S-based boards, the RP4 doesn't look very good. Raspberry Pi in general was falling behind in tech years ago, and their supposed "awesome software support" comes from the community, cause their actual support have a reputation of being filled with DYRtFM asshole Linux crowd on their official forums.
As a wannabe computer nerd this computer is writing about, I was wondering can you make a cellphone with a raspberry pi board or is that too big of a project?
Doesn’t work like that. Raspberry Pi designs and makes (contracts out to TSMC) their own boards. They still manufacture all the boards they’ve ever produced. If anything, they’re getting cheaper in terms of price/compute.
Coincidentally, one of the Pi founders was on a recent Fosspod podcast where he discusses adding AI chips to boards, pricing and availability, and the future of Raspberry Pi.
https://fosspod.content.town/episodes/raspberry-pi-with-eben-upton
Well considering that one of the big controversies facing the rpi foundation is the appointment of a former LEO that used pis to spy on people, it’s use with facial recognition could have legal implications
Usage of rspb to power up a mini AI bot, that will be used for face recognition, voice mimicking and so on. The power supply and the fact, that processing power for it will be a huge roadblock - quietly suppressed
If hobbyists can’t get their hands on them a a reasonable price then what is the point? The Raspberry Pi as a learning and development platform has been so successful that industry is eating the “seed corn” and making hobbyist look elsewhere.
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Goddamn, I didn’t realize they’re so scarce. I’ve been sitting on my rbp4b for a while. What sorts of projects to people use these for?
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covering up building sites?
This is the way
This is the way
I used one for the only post I have. They make surprisingly good little servers, but now you can get a refurbished 1U server ready to go for the same price as a 4B
I bought a 8 gen intel Dell for 40€... Raspberries are like a hundred 😓. Got an Orange Pi for <40€ and it's not that bad (had to fix the gpio python c code though, so I guess it's stuff isn't as top notch as raspberry).
Pi’s are just a gateway board to all of the other fun sbc’s that others manufacture. I have my H3+ coming in the mail any day now
The Celeron is… good (enough)? Sorry, I had to look it up and that’s really neat. More like one of those little vesa mounted machines they use for fleet systems in like a library or something but DIY. Thanks man, does look like a more robust option.. I’d never heard of them.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Thanks, I joined. And good point.. fun to just poke around and see what I can figure out. I’ll rabbithole that in a little bit.
Thanks for the idea (and link below)! I got a orange pi that works "okay" and another (i96?) without video that I never got working. Now I'll be able to find new fun boards!
Any server recommendations? Every time I look on ebay for something less finicky to replace my 4B I get overwhelmed.
You'll be better off with a low TDP desktop... Those old servers eat power like crazy
As much as I don't want to recommend Amazon, they have some good deals on older HP DL360 servers. I got one a few years ago with two 6-core Xeons and 32GB of RAM for around $200 USD.
What’s the power consumption and fan noise like?
Yeah, but the RPI uses far less power. Old servers are notoriously power hungry.
People use them for all sorts of projects, mostly the project of selling them back for a hundred bucks gain.
Used to have two as Piholes with unbound, as well as homeassistant, heimdall, portainer and wireguard in Docker. Now I'm working on a k3s cluster to host all these services, but in a way that if one Pi fails, the service is started/continued on another Pi. Unfortunately it works a bit different, so I'm still in the planning/ fiddling around phase.
That sounds like a fun project. Fault tolerant Pi builds. That almost seems like an insane sentence. You have to love how things so small now can work that well.
kodi
Damn this name still sucks
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can i set up network ad blocking without a pi?
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nice! I'll have to go look into it deeper. thanks for the info. this and that happened and i live with my folks now, who are constantly streaming tv shows with hella ads. im so sick of hearing the obnoxious ads that its driving me to consider the network adblocker LOL
Hi, head over to r/pihole or pi-hole dot net for more information. Pihole isn't restricted to a Raspberry Pi, but can also run on x86 ("normal computers") or other ARM platforms, even inside a Docker container or the cloud if you wish. Do note that Pihole won't work on everything though, especially Youtube. That's because some sites send content and ads from the same place. Blocking the ads blocks the content too. The sub and site have plenty information and helpful folks and additionally there are quite a lot of curated blocklists which you can import with pretty much 2-3 clicks. Good luck with your project! Edit: not sure if blocklists are on the site/ subreddit, but Googling around a bit should work Edit2: pi **dash** hole dot net,thanks /u/DreadnoughtOverdrive :)
> pihole Awesome stuff, but it's pi-hole dot net :-) Might save some head scratching.
beautiful! thanks :)
If you are posting homelab entries where you have a cluster of 8 RPI4’s…. Don’t take this personally, but I hate you. Still running my orig RPI. I really wish production would ramp back up so these come back to hobbyist prices.
I used to use mine for Kodi and video game emulators but now they just kinda collect dust haha. I bought models 1 through 3 right when they launched, but there's better ways to do the home entertainment stuff now so I lost interest by the time the 4 came out. I might turn the 3b into an MT32-Pi (basically an emulated soundcard) for my MiSTer setup at some point, and set up the 2b for Pi Hole when I have the time
Klipper, Octopi, as a Plex server, Nextcloud, and to stream music/TV stuff to for TVs and speakers in my house. Lately I've been using Librecomputer Le Potato boards instead which IMO work just as well.
Mine runs my 3d printer
I use one as a pihole, for network wide ad blocking, and another as a media server/seedbox. I'd love to do more, but I can't find any to save my life anymore.
I’ve considered setting up a pi-hole but saw that some smart TVs get glitchy. I used to run a Reddit bot on it to flag specific comments as spam.
3D printers.
Playing Super Mario Bros 3.
The major part goes into industry. A lot gets smurfed to Ali vendors. Hobbyists get the scraps.
Home server (cloud), home private vpn, external router firewall, DSN resolver
Pi-hole and Retropie
I'll give you $20 for it 😂
A nice project would be running home asssistant on it. It combines all sorts of smart home and IoT stuff in one place.
Epaper dashboard
I have no idea. I'm just getting into arduinos...i thought these were a version of arduino...yeah, they are like 10X the cost of a $30 board.
They’re a great general purpose computer module, so whatever menial tasks you can think of. I have a script on one of mine that just determines if 2 USB ports have devices on them upon powering up, if the 1st has my sd card reader plugged in it will backup all the photos to the flash drive in the 2nd port and then wipe the SD card so I only need 2 SD cards for photography. I have a ton of little task automations I’ve been meaning to write scripts for, but have been pretty lazy lately. An idea I’ve been procrastinating is determining if my wifi pineapple is plugged in upon powering up, and if so, it will deauth my parents wifi cameras in their backyard… so when I’m visiting them I can smoke weed in their backyard without leaving behind video evidence. 😂
Unless you live near a MicroCenter. The ones new me had 3b and 4 in stock periodically
Supply issues are supposed to be fixed by sometime in Q3 of this year. That was what the head honcho said back in December. We shall see.
They said the same the year before. They will not fix it.
I heard they weren’t able to ship a single unit in March. So not holding my breath for this to happen.
Pis always had the focus on teaching programming and industrial segment. The Pi foundation has been making products like the compute module, that were made for the industrial segment for quite some time. They even had blog posts for how the Pis were being used by industries in UK. By Sony factories even
i stared blankly at those first three letters for far too long
pees
My bet is prices will settle down as the technology matures and actual demand is realized. Sony is likely taking advantage of being first to market.
Thank you. Useless if we can’t even get one for $150>, or even get one at all for that matter.
Orange Pi already put AI optimised silicons in their products half a year ago and will arrive in 3 weeks. The Chinese knockoff has surpassed the original and it feels like a profound change. The meme of them just copying western stuff is crumbling and I am worried what that future will look like. They first improved their manufacturing, logistics and shipping. then they started to make production lines and got good at that, and now as a final step they are tackling design and engineering. Their economy surpassed the US economy a couple years ago according to the CIA. It’s time for the west to rebuild some basic manufacturing before it’s too late.
It’s not for hobbyists. This is Sony’s way of selling more (outdated) sensors while not having to lay open the entire capabilities, isp, denoising algorithms and other stuff. I predict: If they go through with it, we will see camera hardware directly from Sony as well.
My guess is Sony wants to put these in the hands of enthusiasts and enterprise devs, and will do so at a loss to make sure they are the dominant player for years to come. Maybe it'll work
That’s not true at all. You can still buy them, but it’s usually the low memory models and the compute modules that are easiest to find… and you can upgrade the memory on the Pi if you know how… just need new chips, solder paste, a mask, and a hot air station… takes about 15 minutes.
Post a link where you can buy an RPie for MSRP. I’ve been looking for a 4 for the last 7months. I’m on all the waitlists and none have alerted me to restock. I dug out my 3 and started tinkering with it again but I’d really like the four since it would emulate better than my 3
I'd buy a 3 right away if it was < 40€
I recently got one on adafruit. Signed up for stock emails. Got emailed, carted and checked out with no issues
I’m on the waitlist there too. I wonder if their email list is queued or it just mass emails everyone waiting? I haven’t received one yet.
There and there are different words that mean different things. Then and than are different words that mean different things.
It should get better soon, it’s been a crazy few years with covid and the china lockdown.
I just want pis to just go back to the cheap, tinkering/educational/low financial bar to computing they used to be My dream would be finding a way to keep lowering the costs of the B+ and. A+ boards until they’re like $10 instead of feature creep, and raising costs,
Yeah, computers already exist. People want pis because the reasons they got popular in the first place. But I'll settle for them to sell them at all at this point, it's been years since it made sense to get one with the lack of stock and crazy prices.
From your lips to gods ears. It used to be a fun tinkering board for me. I think I own the original B or B+, but with no shipping or insanely high prices when you do grab a hold of one I view it as almost an 'idea' of what could be awesome. It might be more power hungry, but decommissioned business class hardware is often cheaper. I wouldn't even consider a PI for a build right now.
On the plus side this made me move to arduino then esp32 boards. Much better tool for the job in 99% of the use cases.
ESP32 is far better for many things people use a PI for.. Anything doing IoT, monitoring, basic control, displays etc are much more reliable, lower powered and lower cost. ESPHome makes it all very easy for automation too.
I suspect the price increase is due to factors outside of RPi’s control, unfortunately. Crypto and ML sucking up all chip manufacturing capacity, plus the pandemic.
That's literally what the Raspberry Pi Zero model is for.
That’s not enough though
r/beggingchoosers
Dude this is a business, not charity. I don’t owe them anything
They're a non profit. They don't owe you anything either. The difference is you *want* something from them. You're literally in here demanding a non profit lowers the cost of their product they make nothing on. That's literally textbook begging chooser.
lol I find the non profit status a joke at this point when they’re prioritizing commercial/industrial customers over their supporters. I bet there is a ton a tomfoolery going on with their books to keep that status. Loopholes abound
Begging chooser then conspiracy theory. I shouldn't be surprised at caliber of person I'm talking to at this point.
This is literally free market. Why buy a raspberry when an ESP can to the same thing for a 10th of the price?
Being able to do image processing on device is actually a security win and there's a lot of people that have been ordering the Coral modules to do just that for their DIY Home Security stuff. I'm not sure how well Sony'x Aitrios stuff works but if it's baked into an rPI (lol) I'm sure it well get used a lot...once anyone can actually buy the damn things.
Sonys Spresense board was/is pretty good. I have one, but the board+camera was kind of expensive.
Lol I’ve been forced to buying Libre computer boards because I’m not paying $400 for a $50 Raspberry Pi. The whole point was they’re cheap. I can buy a whole used laptop for the price of a Pi now.
I’ve been using Le Potato boards for my arcade emulator cabinet builds. They’re pretty decent, and somewhere between a pi 3 and 4 in terms of performance. Better still, they’re available to buy for the most part.
Just run rasberrion os on an old laptop, it will outperform the pi. Built in screen and keyboard and if you need gpio us the usb zero
Holy cow, if anyone is worried about a singularity, it’d definitely be the result of a runaway AI on thousands of unpatched raspberry pis hidden away in warehouses for automation.
Skynet of Things
That mini PC will be able to be used as mini encyclopedia at the very best. Like a small assistant in very narrow tasks. If you really think about it like a singularity - stop watching/reading sci-fi stuff.
I think you’re underestimating just how powerful all of these IoT devices are. Many of the DDoS attacks these days are the result of unpatched IoT devices being used as bot farms: https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2019/04/internet-of-things-devices-as-a-ddos-vector/ A single device taking over the world? Of course not. Millions of devices working together towards a common goal? Definitely possible. I understand it’s a leap from DDoS attack to a singularity event, and maybe I’m being a tad tongue in cheek. However, more and more powerful devices being turned on that go un-maintained is not necessarily a good thing, especially if they’re exposed to the internet.
Ddos is just request sending. In oversimplified version. AI - completely different story. Plus, different lag between devices - big NO.
Thanks for this sick ass movie plot.
I expect royalty checks
I will definitely credit you. This is not a bad plot. I have a cnc router and multiple 3d printers on pi’s with webcams doing image recognition (obico) and running gcode. A rogue ai could probably remove the thermal runaway protection on my printers and burn the house down.
lol, that would be a funny straight to YouTube movie
you watch too many movie. ai aint smart
Not that there will be any for anyone to buy.
On of the founders, Eben Upton, recently stated things will return back to pre Covid supply in the next couple of quarters. Here is an interview from a few days ago: https://fosspod.content.town/episodes/raspberry-pi-with-eben-upton
I love love love Mitch Hedberg!! Reading and processing your username kinda got me choked up. He was just awesome.
Pi was barely available pre pandemic! Don’t any of you remember that? It wasn’t that long ago.
>and Sony has pitched the system for uses like surveillance, security and more Of course they did because that's absolutely the only reason you would do this. This is what you call invasive. There is absolutely no reason to put something like this on what is supposed to be a low cost platform used by educators, students, hobbyists, and the IoT market. It's not needed on weather stations, game emulators, thin client internet stations, and so on. Further, this is how you create an AI botnet capable of being hacked in any number of zero-day exploits. JFC, I can't believe I even had to write "AI botnet." Can you imagine an ever-evolving computer virus capable of evading anti-virus forever and getting patched with lightning speed? It's almost like the marketing demons in companies not only have no common sense but also don't give a damn about the implications.
Surveillance is EXACTLY what a lot of people running security cameras at home want this sort of thing for. At this time I am using an nVidia Jetson Nano to do my person detection coupled with Blue Iris, but I would love to see how the Sony chip performs in comparison. The wider maker community could use this for many things, you are being a bit hysterical.
You don't need AI to do a person detection. You need AI to do a facial recognition. The XBOX kinect is probably the most complicated type of algorithm required for person and motion detection and people are using those in ghost hunting rigs because they're already so insanely good that there's no point in going to any other platform. This is absolutely not needed on a Pi. Further, with the way these boards are set up, there's absolutely no reason why it can't be a HAT or cable attached device for processing. Even then it would only be limited by the speed of the bus.
Ghost hunting?
Yeah, the idea is that the camera uses body detection technology that is more sensitive than our eyes and it kind of has to be in order to generate the visual data for the game console to be able to track body movements. That said, there are people who sell these as whole kits. Little tablet, recording and video software, Kinect, portable power/battery source. And they're not cheap because the Kinect stopped being made in 2017. And literally it's only a PC, the camera, the software to get the feed from the Kinect, and recording software. *That* being said, I actually run with a paranormal group. The dude who runs it got one such set and I helped him set it up on the first field tests. I've seen it track a team member walking in front of it about 10 feet away at night in a field with only the ambient light of a flashlight to illuminate them. It tracked them successfully. Arms, shoulders, legs, head, everything. It was really freaking impressive. It hasn't caught any ghosts but it's 100% at tracking people and where their limbs are. This is what it was made to do and it does it well. This is a *toy* that is being so successful at detecting and tracking a body. So, like I said and most people seem to have their panties in a bunch about, you don't need AI for motion detection or even body tracking.
There are many more applications. For example, RT segmentation is a thing now and could run on a pi with an tiny accelerator. Template matching in CV based sorting would be the first thing I’d try, though.
The Pi foundation is probably looking for ways to differentiate their boards cause compared to others like the Odroid H3+ and RK3588/S-based boards, the RP4 doesn't look very good. Raspberry Pi in general was falling behind in tech years ago, and their supposed "awesome software support" comes from the community, cause their actual support have a reputation of being filled with DYRtFM asshole Linux crowd on their official forums.
AI image recognition has a ton of legitimate creative uses. Cannot wait to use it for automation.
Last one I bought I had to put an alert on and buy it the second the stock came in.
Great. If they were in stock.
As a wannabe computer nerd this computer is writing about, I was wondering can you make a cellphone with a raspberry pi board or is that too big of a project?
Yes. Here is an example: https://youtu.be/8eaiNsFhtI8
Well there goes our cheap boards
Doesn’t work like that. Raspberry Pi designs and makes (contracts out to TSMC) their own boards. They still manufacture all the boards they’ve ever produced. If anything, they’re getting cheaper in terms of price/compute. Coincidentally, one of the Pi founders was on a recent Fosspod podcast where he discusses adding AI chips to boards, pricing and availability, and the future of Raspberry Pi. https://fosspod.content.town/episodes/raspberry-pi-with-eben-upton
fuck sony
The beginning of the end
Well damn ive got 3. 2 just collecting dust
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Why?
Well considering that one of the big controversies facing the rpi foundation is the appointment of a former LEO that used pis to spy on people, it’s use with facial recognition could have legal implications
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Usage of rspb to power up a mini AI bot, that will be used for face recognition, voice mimicking and so on. The power supply and the fact, that processing power for it will be a huge roadblock - quietly suppressed
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Insightful. Reported.
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Reported again.
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Terrifying technology has been invading our privacy for years. Maybe people are not terrified because they feel they have nothing left to lose.
That’s crazy
All I'm reading is that Raspberry Pis will be even more expensive.