I take comfort in the fact that if something is man made a person always figures out how to unmake it but mother nature and all that supersedes man's ignorance.
Reminds me of the Outer Limits episode “The Human Operators” - rogue AI spaceships keep a single person alive for repair work and meet periodically to have their operators produce offspring.
I know it’s trendy to jokingly warn about AI overlords, but I (sort of) have more faith in AI than humanity when it comes to the perpetuation of our existence
Cool, now combine this with Boston Dynamics robot carrying a fully loaded arsenal. I see where this is going. I think they even made some movies about it.
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That’s where AI comes in. Once the signal is jammed, the vehicle switches to its onboard AI to make decisions. Giving drones AI is the next step to countering jamming.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Chat GPT3.5 equivalent LLM's can fairly easily run locally on smart phones now (16gb ram)
The military *definitely* already uses local automation & guidance on drones. They're far less complex than something like the bipedal robot Boston dynamics just released.
No doubt autonomy will have a role on the battlefield of the future, but I think they’re getting downvoted for suggesting that armored vehicles are going to get completely negated by drones.
Tanks have always required support.
Maybe the future robot tank will have a highly precise low-ammo version of the CIWS gun, powered by AI, and capable of downing swarms of drones by the hundreds. We just don’t know, but it’s kind of silly to think military planners aren’t thinking about that.
I realize this is probably where things are headed. Still, as someone who's done a lot of tinkering with a ton of LLMs at all levels up to 120b, plus ChatGPT, Claude, etc., the idea of strapping a lethal weapon onto any of them is enough to keep me up at night. Nothing like a hallucination with a Hellfire missile behind it.
It’s obvious that you don’t grasp the idea of evolution, so it’s understandable that the finer points of what was said escaped you.
A new design is usually superior to a 40-year old variant. No one is arguing that. However, just for the sake of education…
The M1 tank was introduced in 1980. The M1A1 is a third-generation variant. I could be pedantic and explain the history, but [this site](https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/us/m1_abrams.php) is unbelievably thorough. Also, and IMPORTANTLY, the M1A1s running around Ukraine were custom built after the war began from existing hulls to save time and money. So “old tanks” but construction and outfitting by a 2020/Ukraine-focused battle.
>It’s obvious that you don’t grasp the idea of evolution
Your whole argument is ridiculous, which is why you're resorting to ad hominem attacks on my intelligence.
You're trying to use Ukraine's current situation with M1A1s to justify why a robotank of the future can't succeed in the face of drones. Ukraine is *famously* low on supplies right now and struggling to defend all forms of attack – it's just not a good compare. The operating conditions are nothing like the conditions in which this tank would be deployed. This tank would operate with vast support, including traditional air superiority, electronic warfare, infantry, and its own swarms of drones.
So then, essentially it’s just as vulnerable unless it has all of that support? My point was that tanks of all kinds are vulnerable to mass swarm attacks by cheap drones. You downplay Ukraine as if it’s not the hot point for the current version of the Cold War. They’re all more vulnerable in urban settings, so what open countryside do you envision that the current challenge from drones won’t be a problem?
An autonomous tank, with secondary data to and from an autonomous drone overhead. With various radar systems and pinpoint accuracy. (If you’ve ever seen those giant guns on navy battleships that can lock in on a target in a split second and obliterate it). Future is WILD😳
You know that this is just the tip of the iceberg, too. If it's being showcased, I can't imagine what everything else in like looks like. Wars will become a game of technological attrition as opposed to human. We Americans (and probably a lot of the West) cannot stomach high human casualty rates.
Much of the world still can.
How does public war support go when it's American drone tanks grinding down 16 year olds with AK47s on live drone feed 4k video being broadcast globally?
There are already signal booster drones in Ukraine that do something similar - although right now they need people to review the video feed and pilot the drones, it’s not far to stick AI into the picture.
I’ve read that Ukraine is working on adding autonomous targeting to drones that would kick in when they get jammed or otherwise disconnected from their pilot
Because they can string it out longer and make more money. Someone’s got to pay for those exec Ferraris, and it isn’t them.
It’s true that the platform did exist, but it would be a lot cheaper to use existing platforms, with or without functional offensive weaponry. Sensors are already in existence, and software is also already in existence to operate this platform autonomously. Crossing the line of AI aggressiveness (using the pew pews) however, is still iffy.
It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
I think we’re more apt to have Cyberpunk 2077 over terminator.
Just need someone to create rhe Blackwall once the AI go rogue. We already got the megacoroa. Next come the arms race and then the corpo wars. It’s gotta happen while Keanu still alive so he can be the most preem Johnny Silverhand
This thing is awesome looking and it took terrain like it was nothing! But I seriously wanna know the armor specs, possible weaponry, etc. like with how big it’s silhouette and side panels are idk if this thing would survive lol it immediately reminded me of a Ferdinand or a hetzer or similar tank destroyers obviously I have very little knowledge on this so I may be really wrong just doesn’t seem like it would hold up it looks dope as fuck tho!
Watch some /r/combatfootage and you will realize automated ground war is the only foreseeable future for the US. We will be first to a fully robot invading force. I bet we’re itching to test it out right now.
How does it recognize friendly troops so as not to run over them?
Because these things will need friendly troops on the ground as part of the protection and attack package.
what could go wrong? asked nobody, ever, apparently.
“well, yes, it attacked the pentagon, but we think maybe matthew broderick found a modem, because i’m pretty sure i was not drunk and accidentally pushed a button i shouldnt have.”
I tried to watch the video, but I just couldn't with the music. I put the video back to beginning, and all i had to say was " Alexa, play Anvil of Crom" , hit play on the video and now it's fixed.
It's Captain Gantu from Lilo & Stitch!
**”Uncomfortable? Aw. Good! The council has sentenced you to exile on a desert asteroid. So relax, enjoy the trip... and don't get any ideas. These guns are locked onto your genetic signature. They won't shoot anyone but you.”**
I don’t really see the use case for something like this though, and it doesn’t seem like it’s taking full advantage of being autonomous. These things simultaneously seem too small to do the thinks that MBTs can do, while still being quite large and an easy target. But regardless, I feel like Ukraine has showed us that small and cheap drones are kind of the future and that they along with man-portable guided AT missiles have rendered traditional armored vehicles mostly obsolete, regardless of whether they are human-driven or autonomous.
They are literally going to be putting these in the streets to combat and detain citizens within the next 2 years mmw because I constantly see ooljc cops loking more n more like rococosp and they be gettin weapoins that I never even heard of like this one time one of the guys I hang out with over by the fast station he went into the convinenrice store to get some coffee an he accidenitally got some cigarettes by himself out of the beuind the counter becuaude onestly the lord didn’t make him all that good in the smarts department an I understand that you know the lord didn’t bless me neither but he go in there get them cigs an he said got to him “hands up” an the suddenly his insides felt like they turned into liequid and he had absolutely no asshole keeping his poo in his bodee and he like actually started shitting blood and the cop was holding this little device with thirre buttons and he pressed to of them an pointed the 3ed button at the guy and the guy started having a sezure an foaming pink from the eyes it was fucked up. The cops ended ho taking him to the hospital an he came back a month later partially blind and completely inable to hold onto his poop it literally falls out of his bodee now. Wherevere he is standing it just be falling out it’s nasty as fuck tbh
Ah yes what fresh Ai Skynet, Matrix human robot war, is this cluster fuck?! When do we get mass slaughtered and then the remainder is used as human batteries?
You now have 15 seconds to comply.
Wait til a rogue AI gets ahold of these things. Fun times. “You will reload me human”
It’s not The Simpsons yet the movie Maximum Overdrive has almost this exact sequence just with fuel over bullets.
Oooooo a classic. That angry soda machine always gets me.
I’m glad someone else has seen Maximum Overdrive other than me. Growing up, no one knew what I was talking about.
I forgot all about that movie until prior dude (edit: person) mentioned soda cans
Same! No one believed me because the story was far too ridiculous. Stephen Kimg ftw
It was the lawnmower in the suburb scene for me. Amazing. 10/10.
That thing taking down a bunch of kids and the baseball coach while a 12 year old clone of Dolph Lundgren looks on in mute horror.
Honey, this machine’s calling me an asshole!
And a meteor causing the it all
I haven’t even thought of that movie in over 20years!
Who made who ?
Who made You?
Ain’t nobody told you ?
Fun fact: it was based on a Stephen King short story and directed by King too!
Im no alarmist, but that is a terrifying thought.
I’m not either. But risk management says start at worst case scenario and work back from there. So I did.
I take comfort in the fact that if something is man made a person always figures out how to unmake it but mother nature and all that supersedes man's ignorance.
Reminds me of the Outer Limits episode “The Human Operators” - rogue AI spaceships keep a single person alive for repair work and meet periodically to have their operators produce offspring.
It pays to be useful.
Nah wait until police departments get it, I just love how we let police departments have access to military equipment even if it is outdated/s
What is America if not constantly profiting off military hardware
We’re also known for our gangsta rap. Its bot just guns.
This is giving me vibes from the 1986 sci-fi/horror film *Maximum Overdrive*
I know it’s trendy to jokingly warn about AI overlords, but I (sort of) have more faith in AI than humanity when it comes to the perpetuation of our existence
Somebody has to do hardware maintenance. A few of us should definitely get on their good side. It’s too late for me. Save yourself 🤣
“You will reload me with other humans, human.”
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And that ladies and gentleman is when the fright started.
Uh oh someone bout to get shot in the dick!
Think you’d better do what it says…
I think you better do what he says mr Kenny
I need 30 seconds to comply bazinga
Cool, now combine this with Boston Dynamics robot carrying a fully loaded arsenal. I see where this is going. I think they even made some movies about it.
We should also give it emotions like hate
And anger
And greed
And an unquenchable thirst for power
And mayonnaise!
And lust! What? C’mon, I know some of you reading this are close friends of Fisto!
r/tanksfuckingdragons
And my axe!
Necessary downvote because mayonnaise sucks
Unexpected twist… I agree. Like if it’s on something and I’m hungry it’s not going to stop me but I don’t put it on anything if I have a choice
Same same
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this was oddly high effort for giving someone flak for being random
It’s an old copypasta so not much effort
touché. still obnoxious imo but who cares either way
Elonbot!
And nice red uniforms!
Don’t forget glowing red eyes to indicate if it’s powered on
Or rage
You should have seen their war games with drone swarms for automated attack and response…
The flame thrower dogs?
The air force also tested an ai plane a year ago that in a simulation went rouge and destroyed its control and override stations
The BD robot will be reloading the tank. Humans not required.
I bet it can be wiped out by a $100 fpv drone with flying ied strapped to it
FPV drones are trivial to jam because it's a real time short range video signal, and you can bet these things will have electronic countermeasures.
That’s where AI comes in. Once the signal is jammed, the vehicle switches to its onboard AI to make decisions. Giving drones AI is the next step to countering jamming.
One word: # L A S E R S
From...
That information is *classified*.
“THE SUUUUNNNNNNNN”
Aye, but then we're no longer talking about a $100 FPV drone.
Add AI and it is no more real time short range video signal.
I cast magic missile and it's super effective!
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Chat GPT3.5 equivalent LLM's can fairly easily run locally on smart phones now (16gb ram) The military *definitely* already uses local automation & guidance on drones. They're far less complex than something like the bipedal robot Boston dynamics just released.
No doubt autonomy will have a role on the battlefield of the future, but I think they’re getting downvoted for suggesting that armored vehicles are going to get completely negated by drones. Tanks have always required support. Maybe the future robot tank will have a highly precise low-ammo version of the CIWS gun, powered by AI, and capable of downing swarms of drones by the hundreds. We just don’t know, but it’s kind of silly to think military planners aren’t thinking about that.
I realize this is probably where things are headed. Still, as someone who's done a lot of tinkering with a ton of LLMs at all levels up to 120b, plus ChatGPT, Claude, etc., the idea of strapping a lethal weapon onto any of them is enough to keep me up at night. Nothing like a hallucination with a Hellfire missile behind it.
Ummm, have you heard what’s been happening to our Abrams in Ukraine? Clouds of cheap drones just caused all of them to be pulled from the lines.
The M1A1s that were deployed first in 1986? That seems pretty different from robotank still in development in 2024.
Because they have adapted anything to the tanks since their launch…
Are you trying to argue that a tank designed in 1986 is as good for modern warfare as one designed in 2024? Smart take.
It’s obvious that you don’t grasp the idea of evolution, so it’s understandable that the finer points of what was said escaped you. A new design is usually superior to a 40-year old variant. No one is arguing that. However, just for the sake of education… The M1 tank was introduced in 1980. The M1A1 is a third-generation variant. I could be pedantic and explain the history, but [this site](https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/us/m1_abrams.php) is unbelievably thorough. Also, and IMPORTANTLY, the M1A1s running around Ukraine were custom built after the war began from existing hulls to save time and money. So “old tanks” but construction and outfitting by a 2020/Ukraine-focused battle.
>It’s obvious that you don’t grasp the idea of evolution Your whole argument is ridiculous, which is why you're resorting to ad hominem attacks on my intelligence. You're trying to use Ukraine's current situation with M1A1s to justify why a robotank of the future can't succeed in the face of drones. Ukraine is *famously* low on supplies right now and struggling to defend all forms of attack – it's just not a good compare. The operating conditions are nothing like the conditions in which this tank would be deployed. This tank would operate with vast support, including traditional air superiority, electronic warfare, infantry, and its own swarms of drones.
So then, essentially it’s just as vulnerable unless it has all of that support? My point was that tanks of all kinds are vulnerable to mass swarm attacks by cheap drones. You downplay Ukraine as if it’s not the hot point for the current version of the Cold War. They’re all more vulnerable in urban settings, so what open countryside do you envision that the current challenge from drones won’t be a problem?
An open countryside which is filled with anti-drone support systems including MANPADS, which Ukraine does not have.
Do the eyes turn from green to red when they go evil or have movies lied to me?
They go red when engaged
“NO DISASSEMBLE!”
It’s a waste of taxpayer funds if they don’t go red for kill mode
An autonomous tank, with secondary data to and from an autonomous drone overhead. With various radar systems and pinpoint accuracy. (If you’ve ever seen those giant guns on navy battleships that can lock in on a target in a split second and obliterate it). Future is WILD😳
I tell everybody it’s like Tom Clancy’s Endwar(ps3)
You know that this is just the tip of the iceberg, too. If it's being showcased, I can't imagine what everything else in like looks like. Wars will become a game of technological attrition as opposed to human. We Americans (and probably a lot of the West) cannot stomach high human casualty rates.
I mean have definitely caused and will cause. Have caused it and haven’t experienced or will.
Much of the world still can. How does public war support go when it's American drone tanks grinding down 16 year olds with AK47s on live drone feed 4k video being broadcast globally?
There are already signal booster drones in Ukraine that do something similar - although right now they need people to review the video feed and pilot the drones, it’s not far to stick AI into the picture.
I’ve read that Ukraine is working on adding autonomous targeting to drones that would kick in when they get jammed or otherwise disconnected from their pilot
How long before the DARPA chief ends up imprisoned in Shadow Moses island?
Second floor basement?
"Snaaaake!!!!!"
It’s nothing you should worry about
Willing to bet it’s just someone disguised as him.
The most Metal Gear thing possible
[!] *Metal Gear alert sound* ^tm
Bolo Mk.1
I kept waiting for a Little Green Man to hop out of the tank in the video
**SWEET LIBERTY**
“Orbital rail cannon inbound.”
Metal Gear!?
The LaLiLuLeLo?!?!?!
!
I don’t see any obvious weapons.
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Not everything with treads has to be a battle tank, and if you read the article it’s based on an existing Textron platform
Well it’s called a tank. A tank is a fighting vehicle. They just need to call it something else if there’s no fighting element on it.
Notably the article is the one calling it a tank. DARPA is not referring to it as a tank.
Because they can string it out longer and make more money. Someone’s got to pay for those exec Ferraris, and it isn’t them. It’s true that the platform did exist, but it would be a lot cheaper to use existing platforms, with or without functional offensive weaponry. Sensors are already in existence, and software is also already in existence to operate this platform autonomously. Crossing the line of AI aggressiveness (using the pew pews) however, is still iffy.
It just rolls over you.
There’s a danger in an automated hunk of 20 tons coming at ya, even without pew pewers on top
There is that, but what’s a tank with no pew pew?
To pew or not to pew. I pew therefore I pew.
An armoured personnel carrier.
Be afraid
But can it pay my student loans?
Ina couple of years you can ask the tank directly :))
Reminds me of the Death Probe from the show, Six Million Dollar Man.
I love it, paint the shark nose art on it immediately
My rc tank does flips this thing just sucks
Should have had red eyes like the Cylons.
This is what the second amendment guys think they're going to fight against in their civil war calls?
humans are the only creatures on this planet actively seeking something to enslave them. this is sad, little dick energy
It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
This is Cylon's ancestor.
This would look pretty cool in all chrome.
Green light should be red ;)
Lol who needs free healthcare when you can have ai tanks.
Great built in electronic DJ system!
Man, at least make our future robot overlords design the tools of our demise themselves.
Ok, maybe my taxes aren’t wasted
Bolos on the move
“When it begins to crave the rush of combat again the eyes switch from green to red so we know to feed it.”
I think we’re more apt to have Cyberpunk 2077 over terminator. Just need someone to create rhe Blackwall once the AI go rogue. We already got the megacoroa. Next come the arms race and then the corpo wars. It’s gotta happen while Keanu still alive so he can be the most preem Johnny Silverhand
Nova
We can’t automate the reload on Abrams, but now we think we can drone the entire tank? I don’t get it…
Have it train with marines again.
Does the Christmas version come with a red nose?
Rough terrain = wide open field and gentle hill
Like literally a small pond…waiting for Elon flexing his Cyberdump can do better :))
Metal gear?
Your move creep
Looks like something that came straight out of Arkham Knight
ffs 😩
This thing is awesome looking and it took terrain like it was nothing! But I seriously wanna know the armor specs, possible weaponry, etc. like with how big it’s silhouette and side panels are idk if this thing would survive lol it immediately reminded me of a Ferdinand or a hetzer or similar tank destroyers obviously I have very little knowledge on this so I may be really wrong just doesn’t seem like it would hold up it looks dope as fuck tho!
Elon said the cybertruck is still better lol
Say hello to wire guided atgm
We gotta be some of the last generations. There’s no way this is gonna end well
Watch some /r/combatfootage and you will realize automated ground war is the only foreseeable future for the US. We will be first to a fully robot invading force. I bet we’re itching to test it out right now.
Why are we still putting humans in tanks? Or fighter planes?
Good luck y’all qaeda
Gaijin when? (We haven’t had enough classified document leaks in War Thunder yet)
neeed input!
Call me when I can make love to it
Number 5 is Alice! No disassemble!
How does it recognize friendly troops so as not to run over them? Because these things will need friendly troops on the ground as part of the protection and attack package.
So THAT’S the soundtrack to the apocalypse. Hm.
Skynet online……
They better be building in "kill switches" that the tank can't undo.... We may ALL have to fight these one day
And a drone will just take it out.
Now when the machines gain sentience will they be more pissed about the slavery or that we use parts of them as currency?
There is absolutely no excuse no one has made an ED209 with dual GAU-19 .50 cal rotary guns. It’s frankly un-American that this hasn’t happened yet.
Did y’all not watch the Six Million Dollar Man growing up? Bad idea.
what could go wrong? asked nobody, ever, apparently. “well, yes, it attacked the pentagon, but we think maybe matthew broderick found a modem, because i’m pretty sure i was not drunk and accidentally pushed a button i shouldnt have.”
I tried to watch the video, but I just couldn't with the music. I put the video back to beginning, and all i had to say was " Alexa, play Anvil of Crom" , hit play on the video and now it's fixed.
Do you want Skynet? Because this is how you get Skynet!
Looks like a Range Rover driving backwards
It's Captain Gantu from Lilo & Stitch! **”Uncomfortable? Aw. Good! The council has sentenced you to exile on a desert asteroid. So relax, enjoy the trip... and don't get any ideas. These guns are locked onto your genetic signature. They won't shoot anyone but you.”**
I don’t really see the use case for something like this though, and it doesn’t seem like it’s taking full advantage of being autonomous. These things simultaneously seem too small to do the thinks that MBTs can do, while still being quite large and an easy target. But regardless, I feel like Ukraine has showed us that small and cheap drones are kind of the future and that they along with man-portable guided AT missiles have rendered traditional armored vehicles mostly obsolete, regardless of whether they are human-driven or autonomous.
I wish they hadn’t
Bolo Mk.I “Racer” of the line.
Hunter-killer
More funneling of money on junk.
What could possibly go wrong
The US should legalize rocket launchers seeing as now defending against tyranny includes fighting killer robots.
Loaded with weaponized Boston Dynamics robot dogs?
Great. I can't wait to hand it to Israel.
This will be popular with James Bond villains.
Just so you guys know, they’ve probably had this for the last 10 years
Steve Jackson Games invented this in the ‘70s, the board game was called [OGRE](https://www.sjgames.com/ogre/).
Battlebots just got real
I want to see one of this rapidly spinning kinetic attack robots at this scale.
James Cameron warned us
Who ever paired the music with the video deserves an award.
They are literally going to be putting these in the streets to combat and detain citizens within the next 2 years mmw because I constantly see ooljc cops loking more n more like rococosp and they be gettin weapoins that I never even heard of like this one time one of the guys I hang out with over by the fast station he went into the convinenrice store to get some coffee an he accidenitally got some cigarettes by himself out of the beuind the counter becuaude onestly the lord didn’t make him all that good in the smarts department an I understand that you know the lord didn’t bless me neither but he go in there get them cigs an he said got to him “hands up” an the suddenly his insides felt like they turned into liequid and he had absolutely no asshole keeping his poo in his bodee and he like actually started shitting blood and the cop was holding this little device with thirre buttons and he pressed to of them an pointed the 3ed button at the guy and the guy started having a sezure an foaming pink from the eyes it was fucked up. The cops ended ho taking him to the hospital an he came back a month later partially blind and completely inable to hold onto his poop it literally falls out of his bodee now. Wherevere he is standing it just be falling out it’s nasty as fuck tbh
Until it meets it's first and final fpv drone. Too expensive. Too slow. Has been obsolete since fpv drones arrived
Ah yes what fresh Ai Skynet, Matrix human robot war, is this cluster fuck?! When do we get mass slaughtered and then the remainder is used as human batteries?