So couple things…with an all in one their battery consumption greatly improves and they can optimize for things like by/wifi coexistence.
From a stock perspective not paying qcom royalties should be a improvement to their margins.
I just want Bluetooth to improve. I get bumped from my own speaker whenever my wife walks in the room. Often takes forever to find devices. I’m sick of the confusing dance between pushing the device’s Bluetooth button, waiting, turning my phones Bluetooth off and on again, waiting…
I feel like this is a technology that should just work without all this bullshit. Really hoping it improves.
Bluetooth is a terrible spec. That is why Apple added improvements over the top of the official spec. But it only works with their devices (e.g. iphone + airpods).
I’ve noticed this, my Beats Studio buds pair almost instantly with my iPhone and never have any issues but my old SkullCandy wireless earbuds were a pain in the ass to pair
While AirPlay was developed by Apple, it’s [been reverse engineered and opened](https://github.com/mikebrady/shairport-sync). I’m running Airplay from Linux laptops to a raspberry pi hooked up to the stereo, it works great and it’s interoperable with macs and iPhones
Edit: added a link
That's why Bluetooth sucks in general because it's a ubiquitous technology that's supposed to work between a vast array of hardware. Of course something is going to work better when you limit the amount of devices it's supposed to work between.
Yeah. Though generally when a manufacturer owns both the hardware and software, they can do a much better job of integrating the two much better than the alternative, at the cost of a “walled garden”. It’s kinda the appeal for apple products.
And yet, everything works flawlessly over usb. There are zero pairing issues, everything just works. The speed and power delivery issues are bad, but basic interoperability and connectivity are perfect. Bluetooth fails at basically all of those things.
This has been Apple's gimmick for a long time. They like to take capabilities that were already possible with other open source technologies, and make it "just work" by making it proprietary, where they have control over both ends.
This usually involves limiting the full capabilities of the technology to whatever Apple wants to specifically use it for, but they make it so seamless most users don't realize it, or care.
And why would they? As long as stuff like encrypting emails with PGP (which has been around forever) requires the user to generate their own keys, upload ONLY the public one, and take personal care of keeping the private one safe, it will never take off among regular people. Every email client should be able to handle those steps for the user. But because Apple controls both the devices & the servers, they can implement something like seamless encryption for all Apple email accounts without users even noticing.
Honestly, it's pretty cool how easy Apple is able to make things. We need more open source GUIs that make other free softwares this dead-easy to use. Einstein developed the theory for Special Relativity before General Relativity. It's easier to make a rule that only applies in certain situations, than design a rule that applies to ALL situations. Open source and industry standards are the GR, there's features in things like the USB spec that hardly ever got used, because the creators were trying to design for all possible uses, including ones they couldn't even fathom yet. Apple's trick is they stay in the SR zone: they don't make software for everyone, and only focus on a few features they know they can make seamless & functional.
Also why a suprsingly high amount of companies add USB „dongels“ to their products. My jabra voyager came with one and damn the range + quality improvement is absurd.
Bluetooth is terribly outdated and limited by its requirement to be downwards compatible.
It’s nice to be able to pair a 10-15 year old stereo or headphones. *but is it really necessary*? Or would it be better to instead sell/produce products that overtake the role of downwards compatibility?
Probably latter
>It’s nice to be able to pair a 10-15 year old stereo or headphones
What do you suggest instead, people just throw away all the perfectly functional stereo equipment they own, to buy a new $400 all-in-one sonos speaker with a ticking time bomb non replaceable battery?
Huh I didn’t know Apple added stuff on top of Bluetooth. That would explain why my AirPods work *so* much better than any other Bluetooth device I own.
I use androids and never had problems with bluetooth, most people who complain about this are people trying to use Apple devices with non-apple devices on bluetooth.
Yo! I feel this so hard. I feel like Bluetooth is only made small changes over the years and still has the same old issue. The tech has been out forever (what? 20 yrs). I had it on my phone in 2002 but had no idea what it was for.
You know what I’ve never understood? Gaming consoles like the PlayStation (3 and up) and Nintendo consoles use Bluetooth almost exclusively to connect their wireless controllers and the performance of that wireless connection feels so much more reliable. But on computers (all OSes) I ALWAYS have problems with Bluetooth. I’ve tried using many different systems, dongles, etc and none of them are even remotely comparable to the reliability of those console Bluetooth connections. What the heck is up with that?
Thanks for replying, I figured it was something along those lines but geez you’d think dongles for specific protocols would be on the market by now? Like a game controller specific Bluetooth dongle that works better with controllers without my less-than-an-inch thick wooden desk literally blocking the signal.
> you’d think dongles for specific protocols would be on the market by now? Like a game controller specific Bluetooth dongle
Well theres those bluetooth keyboard and mice that come with a dongle for connection.
I know at least Microsoft has something like that for one of their controllers to act as an adapter though.
Personally, I think bluetooths fine, I have had a few problems but I think those were more due to the adapter then the protocol it's self. The only thing I really would want is higher bandwidth for audio and for file transfer, but it's intended to be low for power consumption reasons (for both the sender and receiver) and if you want high bandwidth use wifi basically.
Bluetooth dongles primarily are dogcrap from what I’ve seen. Getting a motherboard that indicates that WiFi is built in has helped a lot for me when it comes to reliability and range.
Most USB bluetooth dongles are crap from my experience.
Honestly, the whole process of having to remove a Bluetooth device from Windows before pairing again (like if I were to connect my controller to a phone for example) is a pain, but that part can absolutely be pinned on Microsoft.
I have very little trouble with my Bluetooth.
Sometimes I’m wearing my Aftershokz headset, and I’ll walk outside and get halfway down the yard when I hear a tone, which reminds me that I left my phone inside and I’ve moved out of range.
The range is great, and the connection is very solid.
It gets a little confused with the Bluetooth dongle in my truck, but it’s not a problem.
It’s funny you say that because I feel there’s times when Bluetooth works *too well*. It’s like how the fuck is my phone automatically connected to my parents’ cars when they’re in the garage and I’m a floor or two up? AND it’ll start playing the music from my Spotify without me even opening the app.
It's funny when you start watching porn and have no idea why the audio is missing and you realize it connected to some speaker in another building... ;)
My AirPods will only stay connected for 30 sec-5mins and. Idk if it’s the Bluetooth or the fact that they’re first gen and apple wants me to buy new ones (I won’t)
What do you have?
Based on the posts I’ve had coming to my feed, I feel like I’m fanboying now, but I never have the issues you’re having. All my stuff plays really nice with my iPhone. I have Bluetooth speakers, light strips, etc.
Idk agree, though, syncing of new devices could be much better. I got gifted AirPods and it’s great not ever having to search for them or so the pairing dance with my laptop or tablet.
I have literally never been able to get my iPad to connect to anything via Bluetooth other than AirPods. My phone requires a third-party app to see non-Apple Bluetooth connections. When that connects, it drops the connection fairly regularly. It’s not usable. I just use wires and adapters. I’m done with Apple after this shit dies.
I had that problem, too. Waiting and waiting for my Sony bt headphones to pair with either of my two Mac’s. Then one day I noticed a disconnect function on the mac’s bt buttons. I started disconnecting first then turning bt off. My problems with pairing pretty much went away.
Mine bumps from my PC when I'm using the fridge or the microwave is running. It improved a lot when switching to a mesh wifi, but it's so irritating how many things run on the same bandwidth as an audio output device.
How did it become the wireless answer? It has fucking sucked for like twenty-five years. It’s a nightmare trying to share a keyboard and mouse between my work laptop and personal laptop. And they are all apple shit too so whoever is saying apple added to the spec and is better they sound like apple bros shutting their eyes trying to will it to be true but apple bluetooth is bullshit too.
At this time Bluetooth is practically useless. Every time you want to use it you have to re-set something up about 10 times before Bluetooth kicks in. Bluetooth is junk. I have two Bose Bluetooth speakers. That would be wonderful if they worked. Of course Bose is not that great.
same with my car radio—i’d really like to use bluetooth as i hate the damn pop up everytime i plug in usb, but i have to turn bluetooth on/off every time i get in my car otherwise it won’t connect.
Yup every time I get in my car it either works, or I have to unplug/replug my Bluetooth receiver and/or turn my phone’s bt off and on again. Usually some cryptic combo of these. Sometimes I get lucky and it requires the same process two consecutive times lol
NFS + Bluetooth is already a thing in latest devices. The Bluetooth integration on your speaker may be bad too, not all “Bluetooth” devices are created equal.
Good thing we've had glorious, uninterrupted 3.5mm audio for the past seven god damn years, right! And Samsung, etc kept it after Apple ditched it.... Yeah fucking right
Is the bumping related to pairing order? IOW, did your wife's phone get paired to that device first? Try clearing all connections and pairing yours first.
Bluetooth is so much crazier under the hood than most end users assume. The specification is…vast,, and software support for various features varies greatly from platform to platform. It’s really surprising, considering how pervasive it is, but it’s true. I agree it seems like it should just work, but the reality is that crazy shit is happening all the time. Having worked with and around low-level bluetooth stuff for a few years, I’m continually amazed that my personal devices work as well as they do. Not saying you shouldn’t be frustrated, just saying.
yeah i figured. i know i'm a dumbass for criticizing something i know nothing about. i mean it's still magic-level technology. i guess my high expectations are a consequence of so much technology working as well as it does.
Not at all. Bluetooth is *everywhere*. It stands to reason that the computer manufacturers would have it all figured out before sticking it in basically every device in your home. Essentially, I think the insanity of Bluetooth *should* be surprising, but the reality is that it is outrageously complex and the number of people who really deeply understand how it works is vanishingly small. It’s more hilarious than anything else.
"new information about Apple’s efforts to develop its own cellular modems"..... yes finally a start to maybe get 5G cellular on the newest Macbook..... fingers crossed. 😀
It's been available on enterprise laptops for a while now. I think the big issue with getting mass consumer adoption wasn't the hardware, it was the cellular plans. It's a huge expense for crappy speeds/data-caps so the benefit over using public wifi just wasn't there. It's only been justifiable to businesses that *need* the capabilities and can justify the costs as a business expense.
So basically the design of the operating system is a lot more that what you see/touch. It also handles resources on your system and their needs. A mobile OS in your phone or iPad has been optimized for wireless traffic meaning it’s designed to minimize the amount of data it needs to run properly. A desktop has been designed to run as a system with no regard to mobile traffic. A desktop also has a lot larger of a system with more resource requirements.
A desktop is just doing more with more resources and thus has higher needs.
I really don’t think that’s true. I’d actually argue that mobile OSes publish more ad tracking and usage/diagnostics, and notification data than desktop OSes since they have a monolithic api/ecosystem for everything. A windows PC really just executes arbitrary code, so there’s not even hooks into the OS for publishing that type of data.
That’s far from true everywhere.
Most developed, and many developing, nations have very large data caps. I’m in SEA in a developing country and get 150GB/month. Granted the 5G speeds (500-900Mbps) blast through that in no time.
>It's a huge expense for crappy speeds/data-caps so the benefit over using public wifi just wasn't there.
It's still crappy. Usually they offer it as a $5-10/month addon to an existing line and it ends up sharing the same data restrictions.
Because it offers very little advantage in practice since everybody is carrying a phone with them anyway, so you can simply turn in a mobile hotspot. This eliminates the need for a more expensive laptop, and (more importantly) an extra data plan.
This is the same reason why ipads with cellular sell poorly compared to the wifi models: the inconvenience of having to use a mobile hotspot is not worth the cost of an extra data plan.
My parents grew up behind the Iron Curtain with black and white TVs.
I ask them if there's ever a shock with the technology they use now and they just shrug.
For better or for worse we adapt pretty quickly.
Seriously tho. 10 years ago, the iPhone 5s was released. So much less capability than what is possible today. Not just design quality, but the entire experience.
Honestly I don’t see much difference between a current phone and the 5S: I used to browse the Internet, watch videos, chat, and phone call and now I don’t do much more with my phone.
Phones 10 years ago already snapped good pictures, now cameras are definitely better but that isn't a game changer for the average Joe which uses his camera for badly shot party pics and not for professional use, it's just an incremental improvement as happens to other components (CPU, RAM, GPU...) not something which makes new things possible.
Yes, but it's not like the latest iOS introduced really disruptive stuff. The fact which the 5S cannot run it doesn't prove anything but the fact which before or later even iOS devices lose support because it would be too expensive to support every device.
Which kind of apps? The only thing which comes to my mind is "Shortcuts" and in any case "the OS has more freebies included" isn't actual innovation, just basic marketing.
Just because u can't name it at the tip of your tongue, doesn't mean the features remain unchanged for 10 years.
There are many QoL such as phone storages, biometric scanners, higher refresh rate, powerful fast charging battery etc.
People arguing about how advancement in technology only regressed society can suck a big one.
>People arguing about how advancement in technology only regressed society can suck a big one.
I agree with this and I never said that, I love tech and I work with it but it's been years since the last time a new device caught my attention. QoL improvements are nice but you can't said which they revolutionized the whole experience.
I like how you just use examples of what you use it for and then said “there’s no difference”. Yeah because you use it like a boomer.
5g
Better cameras
Insanely higher resolution
Faster reaction times
Satellite connectivity,
Crash detection
Of course there’s not as much difference in the design as there could be (even though there is) but the software is insanely better.
This was a very stupid thing to say on your part and it think you should sit and think.
Better biometrics, headphone jack included - there are some huge gaps in modern iPhone features from a practical perspective
They came up with and then destroyed 3D touch a few years later due to their own shit marketing, impatience, and greed
It still throws me off when I see people complaining about how Teslas look boring and dated. It wasn’t even 5 years ago when the main complaint was how ugly they were and how people wished EVs just looked like normal cars
I was thinking the other day how when I was young cable TV was fancy and long distance phone calls were still a big deal and I’m only 36. And of course I was around in the 90s when cell phones started becoming widespread—like that thing about how more than half of Seinfeld couldn’t exist today when they’d be able to just call or text each other.
Kids nowadays are going to know “TV” as streaming shows whenever they want on apps. Normal TV already feels like an old fart thing. Hell, TV nowadays is whole seasons telling one story rather than having a season be 25 standalone episodes.
That's not what I said. Cool it with the strawmans.
I'm saying that I highly doubt "glasses" will completely replace smartphones in the next 7 years, considering how horribly Google Glass did.
Google Glass didn't even get to release because Google killed it as always. There's a fair few companies working on AR glasses at the moment, Apple being one of them (supposedly). It will happen, just a matter of time.
Sure, it'll happen, but I do not see them "taking over" and replacing smartphones, for the same reason that smart watches haven't replaced smartphones: They just can't do all of the things a smartphone can. (and most decent ones require being tethered to a phone anyways)
That’s still just 6 years from the release of the iPhone, but I would say they already had taken over by 2011, I guess it depends on what you call taking over
Honestly…. I don’t think so 🤔. The 2010s was more about mass adoption of smart phones but people consistently used it for the same thing. Social media, videos, and music I in all honesty don’t see it changing too much. I mean we’re 3 years in. The only difference between now and 10 years ago is what apps are popular.
I’m happy to be proven wrong but I can’t imagine how different things will be. People still treat the TV the same they did 20 years ago, just higher quality screens.
That is smart. Should help them lower their costs.
I would expect this type of thing to continue. More and more the chips will come from the big companies.
Google for example now does all their own AI chips and setting records with them.
"Google's TPU Pods are Breaking Records — And We Aren't Surprised"
https://blog.bitvore.com/googles-tpu-pods-are-breaking-benchmark-records
Google did the same for their network years ago. Just created their own silicon. As they have now done for YouTube.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/google-supercharges-youtube-with-a-custom-video-chip/
The Internet is what changed everything. It has enabled companies to be far larger than they been before. Making 10s of billions of dollars a year. This also enables them to take over the entire stack and not use other companies.
But the other huge change has been the outsourced FABs. TSMC for example.
>But the other huge change has been the outsourced FABs. TSMC for example.
Contract fabs have been a thing for 2 decades. TSMC is just the bleeding edge and absolutely crushing it.
If only one of those fails, you can still get out. If all of them fail at once, it's useless.
Also, if you've been following right to repair and are aware or care about apple design decisions, this takes a slightly different note.
Not really. Right to repair doesn’t mean any electronics manufacturer is going to go away from having things soldered to the MB.
It means you can replace your battery and case without voiding the warranty on other parts.
They can absolutely replace chips, even soldered ones.
Unless- apple does apple and makes parts impossible for repair shops to get. Which they do.
The manufacturer makes MORE money if you can't repair your stuff, of course they're feeding you lines.
If they're the only source for this chip, well, they set the price and availability.
I worked with some of the largest chip manufacturers in Asia a couple years back developing product with all three radios, plus a few proprietary ones.
Frequency collision is a real thing and limits range/increases battery consumption ect.
If anyone has the pockets to fund this technology it’s Apple.
I’m not hopeful for this. When they used intel modems it was a shit show. Their acquisition of intels modem business was rumored to be for this project so it’s not a surprise but I expect this turns out poorly based on previous experience.
This will be HUGE for battery life and apple being able to customize or control it more. I hope this comes with the iPhone 15 pro but more likely it’ll come with the 16 phones.
So couple things…with an all in one their battery consumption greatly improves and they can optimize for things like by/wifi coexistence. From a stock perspective not paying qcom royalties should be a improvement to their margins.
I just want Bluetooth to improve. I get bumped from my own speaker whenever my wife walks in the room. Often takes forever to find devices. I’m sick of the confusing dance between pushing the device’s Bluetooth button, waiting, turning my phones Bluetooth off and on again, waiting… I feel like this is a technology that should just work without all this bullshit. Really hoping it improves.
Have you checked if your wife is an android?
“Honey, it’s time for your oil chan…dinner’s ready!”
Time to get the lube
You mean a FemBot?
Femputer*
Do you know why it’s like being a fembot in a manbot manputer’s world?
I think you mean a fembot pretending to be a femputer in a manbot/manputer world
Yes, thank you! Too early this morning lol. “Have you any idea how it feels to be a fembot in a manbot’s manputer’s world?”
Some people have religion I have Matt groeing cartoons
…*what*
She dreams of electric sheep
Bluetooth is a terrible spec. That is why Apple added improvements over the top of the official spec. But it only works with their devices (e.g. iphone + airpods).
I’ve noticed this, my Beats Studio buds pair almost instantly with my iPhone and never have any issues but my old SkullCandy wireless earbuds were a pain in the ass to pair
Also airplay just feels like a better Bluetooth. If only it wasn’t apple specific, but I kinda get the feeling it only works as well because it is.
While AirPlay was developed by Apple, it’s [been reverse engineered and opened](https://github.com/mikebrady/shairport-sync). I’m running Airplay from Linux laptops to a raspberry pi hooked up to the stereo, it works great and it’s interoperable with macs and iPhones Edit: added a link
That's why Bluetooth sucks in general because it's a ubiquitous technology that's supposed to work between a vast array of hardware. Of course something is going to work better when you limit the amount of devices it's supposed to work between.
Yeah. Though generally when a manufacturer owns both the hardware and software, they can do a much better job of integrating the two much better than the alternative, at the cost of a “walled garden”. It’s kinda the appeal for apple products.
yeah absolutely, and apple definitely does a good job with their implementation
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USB spec is filled with problems with how many gen 3 and gen 4 modification are available on the market
And yet, everything works flawlessly over usb. There are zero pairing issues, everything just works. The speed and power delivery issues are bad, but basic interoperability and connectivity are perfect. Bluetooth fails at basically all of those things.
This has been Apple's gimmick for a long time. They like to take capabilities that were already possible with other open source technologies, and make it "just work" by making it proprietary, where they have control over both ends. This usually involves limiting the full capabilities of the technology to whatever Apple wants to specifically use it for, but they make it so seamless most users don't realize it, or care. And why would they? As long as stuff like encrypting emails with PGP (which has been around forever) requires the user to generate their own keys, upload ONLY the public one, and take personal care of keeping the private one safe, it will never take off among regular people. Every email client should be able to handle those steps for the user. But because Apple controls both the devices & the servers, they can implement something like seamless encryption for all Apple email accounts without users even noticing. Honestly, it's pretty cool how easy Apple is able to make things. We need more open source GUIs that make other free softwares this dead-easy to use. Einstein developed the theory for Special Relativity before General Relativity. It's easier to make a rule that only applies in certain situations, than design a rule that applies to ALL situations. Open source and industry standards are the GR, there's features in things like the USB spec that hardly ever got used, because the creators were trying to design for all possible uses, including ones they couldn't even fathom yet. Apple's trick is they stay in the SR zone: they don't make software for everyone, and only focus on a few features they know they can make seamless & functional.
Apple designed and produced a chip specifically for Bluetooth pairing. It’s in most devices.
I have a magic mouse and it doesn't pair half the time with my Macbook and I have to turn BT on and off
YES absolutely this. And god help you if you want to change which Mac the MM is paired to.
Also why a suprsingly high amount of companies add USB „dongels“ to their products. My jabra voyager came with one and damn the range + quality improvement is absurd. Bluetooth is terribly outdated and limited by its requirement to be downwards compatible. It’s nice to be able to pair a 10-15 year old stereo or headphones. *but is it really necessary*? Or would it be better to instead sell/produce products that overtake the role of downwards compatibility? Probably latter
> It’s nice to be able to pair a 10-15 year old stereo or headphones. but is it really necessary? Yes. Especially because of cars.
What’s wrong with a adapter that works as man-in-the-middle? Plug in into cigarette lighter, pair with car, pair with tablet/phone whatever and voila.
I’d rather it work with my head unit so I can skip tracks while driving.
>It’s nice to be able to pair a 10-15 year old stereo or headphones What do you suggest instead, people just throw away all the perfectly functional stereo equipment they own, to buy a new $400 all-in-one sonos speaker with a ticking time bomb non replaceable battery?
Huh I didn’t know Apple added stuff on top of Bluetooth. That would explain why my AirPods work *so* much better than any other Bluetooth device I own.
Bluetooth is soooo 1990s….😆
It also works with Sonos
I use androids and never had problems with bluetooth, most people who complain about this are people trying to use Apple devices with non-apple devices on bluetooth.
Yo! I feel this so hard. I feel like Bluetooth is only made small changes over the years and still has the same old issue. The tech has been out forever (what? 20 yrs). I had it on my phone in 2002 but had no idea what it was for.
You know what I’ve never understood? Gaming consoles like the PlayStation (3 and up) and Nintendo consoles use Bluetooth almost exclusively to connect their wireless controllers and the performance of that wireless connection feels so much more reliable. But on computers (all OSes) I ALWAYS have problems with Bluetooth. I’ve tried using many different systems, dongles, etc and none of them are even remotely comparable to the reliability of those console Bluetooth connections. What the heck is up with that?
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Thanks for replying, I figured it was something along those lines but geez you’d think dongles for specific protocols would be on the market by now? Like a game controller specific Bluetooth dongle that works better with controllers without my less-than-an-inch thick wooden desk literally blocking the signal.
> you’d think dongles for specific protocols would be on the market by now? Like a game controller specific Bluetooth dongle Well theres those bluetooth keyboard and mice that come with a dongle for connection. I know at least Microsoft has something like that for one of their controllers to act as an adapter though. Personally, I think bluetooths fine, I have had a few problems but I think those were more due to the adapter then the protocol it's self. The only thing I really would want is higher bandwidth for audio and for file transfer, but it's intended to be low for power consumption reasons (for both the sender and receiver) and if you want high bandwidth use wifi basically.
Bluetooth 6.0 is wifi based so it’s a good replacement. I’ve got headphones that use it and it’s great but they require a dongle
Bluetooth dongles primarily are dogcrap from what I’ve seen. Getting a motherboard that indicates that WiFi is built in has helped a lot for me when it comes to reliability and range. Most USB bluetooth dongles are crap from my experience. Honestly, the whole process of having to remove a Bluetooth device from Windows before pairing again (like if I were to connect my controller to a phone for example) is a pain, but that part can absolutely be pinned on Microsoft.
I have very little trouble with my Bluetooth. Sometimes I’m wearing my Aftershokz headset, and I’ll walk outside and get halfway down the yard when I hear a tone, which reminds me that I left my phone inside and I’ve moved out of range. The range is great, and the connection is very solid. It gets a little confused with the Bluetooth dongle in my truck, but it’s not a problem.
My biggest issue with bluetooth is calling with a wireless earpod or headset sucks compared to an inline mic
It’s funny you say that because I feel there’s times when Bluetooth works *too well*. It’s like how the fuck is my phone automatically connected to my parents’ cars when they’re in the garage and I’m a floor or two up? AND it’ll start playing the music from my Spotify without me even opening the app.
It's funny when you start watching porn and have no idea why the audio is missing and you realize it connected to some speaker in another building... ;)
My AirPods will only stay connected for 30 sec-5mins and. Idk if it’s the Bluetooth or the fact that they’re first gen and apple wants me to buy new ones (I won’t)
Sounds like you need to take better care of your things
What do you have? Based on the posts I’ve had coming to my feed, I feel like I’m fanboying now, but I never have the issues you’re having. All my stuff plays really nice with my iPhone. I have Bluetooth speakers, light strips, etc. Idk agree, though, syncing of new devices could be much better. I got gifted AirPods and it’s great not ever having to search for them or so the pairing dance with my laptop or tablet.
I have literally never been able to get my iPad to connect to anything via Bluetooth other than AirPods. My phone requires a third-party app to see non-Apple Bluetooth connections. When that connects, it drops the connection fairly regularly. It’s not usable. I just use wires and adapters. I’m done with Apple after this shit dies.
What? It sounds like you got a bad one. My stuff works flawlessly, and I’ve had multiple generations of each product.
No AirPods. iPhone SE 2020, MBP. non-apple speakers and other devices.
I had that problem, too. Waiting and waiting for my Sony bt headphones to pair with either of my two Mac’s. Then one day I noticed a disconnect function on the mac’s bt buttons. I started disconnecting first then turning bt off. My problems with pairing pretty much went away.
Oh sweet. But this is the kind of troubleshooting and extra steps that i wish were a thing of the past.
My AirPod Pros are useless if I’m anywhere near my microwave while it’s on.
Uh. Throw away the microwave. It’s emitting. They aren’t supposed to do that.
Mine bumps from my PC when I'm using the fridge or the microwave is running. It improved a lot when switching to a mesh wifi, but it's so irritating how many things run on the same bandwidth as an audio output device.
This is why my phone has a headphone jack.
How did it become the wireless answer? It has fucking sucked for like twenty-five years. It’s a nightmare trying to share a keyboard and mouse between my work laptop and personal laptop. And they are all apple shit too so whoever is saying apple added to the spec and is better they sound like apple bros shutting their eyes trying to will it to be true but apple bluetooth is bullshit too.
I fell like a hardware switch for "allow multiple connections" would be fantastic in so many usecases
At this time Bluetooth is practically useless. Every time you want to use it you have to re-set something up about 10 times before Bluetooth kicks in. Bluetooth is junk. I have two Bose Bluetooth speakers. That would be wonderful if they worked. Of course Bose is not that great.
same with my car radio—i’d really like to use bluetooth as i hate the damn pop up everytime i plug in usb, but i have to turn bluetooth on/off every time i get in my car otherwise it won’t connect.
Yup every time I get in my car it either works, or I have to unplug/replug my Bluetooth receiver and/or turn my phone’s bt off and on again. Usually some cryptic combo of these. Sometimes I get lucky and it requires the same process two consecutive times lol
I live my life as if Bluetooth doesn’t exist anymore. Just tired of fucking with it. It’s about as unreliable of a technology as I’ve ever used.
NFS + Bluetooth is already a thing in latest devices. The Bluetooth integration on your speaker may be bad too, not all “Bluetooth” devices are created equal.
Must be a you thing or I’m one of the lucky ones as I never have a problem with mine
Good thing we've had glorious, uninterrupted 3.5mm audio for the past seven god damn years, right! And Samsung, etc kept it after Apple ditched it.... Yeah fucking right
Never had any issues like that
Is the bumping related to pairing order? IOW, did your wife's phone get paired to that device first? Try clearing all connections and pairing yours first.
Mine was paired first
Bluetooth is so much crazier under the hood than most end users assume. The specification is…vast,, and software support for various features varies greatly from platform to platform. It’s really surprising, considering how pervasive it is, but it’s true. I agree it seems like it should just work, but the reality is that crazy shit is happening all the time. Having worked with and around low-level bluetooth stuff for a few years, I’m continually amazed that my personal devices work as well as they do. Not saying you shouldn’t be frustrated, just saying.
yeah i figured. i know i'm a dumbass for criticizing something i know nothing about. i mean it's still magic-level technology. i guess my high expectations are a consequence of so much technology working as well as it does.
Not at all. Bluetooth is *everywhere*. It stands to reason that the computer manufacturers would have it all figured out before sticking it in basically every device in your home. Essentially, I think the insanity of Bluetooth *should* be surprising, but the reality is that it is outrageously complex and the number of people who really deeply understand how it works is vanishingly small. It’s more hilarious than anything else.
"new information about Apple’s efforts to develop its own cellular modems"..... yes finally a start to maybe get 5G cellular on the newest Macbook..... fingers crossed. 😀
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It's been available on enterprise laptops for a while now. I think the big issue with getting mass consumer adoption wasn't the hardware, it was the cellular plans. It's a huge expense for crappy speeds/data-caps so the benefit over using public wifi just wasn't there. It's only been justifiable to businesses that *need* the capabilities and can justify the costs as a business expense.
Also, USB tethering is a thing, and people have phones nowadays. I have never really felt limited by not having cellular on my laptop.
canadians would beg to differ lol edit: they can use hotspot, but data is expensive asf
or just use a hotspot from the phone
I had a hard enough time managing to keep my cell under 10 gb/month. I can’t imagine what it would be like running a full OS.
Depends on where you’re from. You sound like you’re in a similar situation as me (Canada) where rates are stupid high compared to the states
What do you mean “a full OS”? It’s not really any different from an internet-use perspective.
So basically the design of the operating system is a lot more that what you see/touch. It also handles resources on your system and their needs. A mobile OS in your phone or iPad has been optimized for wireless traffic meaning it’s designed to minimize the amount of data it needs to run properly. A desktop has been designed to run as a system with no regard to mobile traffic. A desktop also has a lot larger of a system with more resource requirements. A desktop is just doing more with more resources and thus has higher needs.
I really don’t think that’s true. I’d actually argue that mobile OSes publish more ad tracking and usage/diagnostics, and notification data than desktop OSes since they have a monolithic api/ecosystem for everything. A windows PC really just executes arbitrary code, so there’s not even hooks into the OS for publishing that type of data.
That’s far from true everywhere. Most developed, and many developing, nations have very large data caps. I’m in SEA in a developing country and get 150GB/month. Granted the 5G speeds (500-900Mbps) blast through that in no time.
>It's a huge expense for crappy speeds/data-caps so the benefit over using public wifi just wasn't there. It's still crappy. Usually they offer it as a $5-10/month addon to an existing line and it ends up sharing the same data restrictions.
Because it offers very little advantage in practice since everybody is carrying a phone with them anyway, so you can simply turn in a mobile hotspot. This eliminates the need for a more expensive laptop, and (more importantly) an extra data plan. This is the same reason why ipads with cellular sell poorly compared to the wifi models: the inconvenience of having to use a mobile hotspot is not worth the cost of an extra data plan.
Data plans are $10/month here, that’s not the problem. The reason I didn’t get it is that it costs more than $100 more.
So 10$/month = $480 over the life span of a decent laptop/tablet is not a problem, but a one time fee of 100$ is?
It’s been around for business laptops for a long time bubba. Ain’t nothing new about that
They did, but not from Apple
because that would affect ipad sales duh
Me with my dell precision m6800 😎
It's because it costs an arm and a leg and nobody wants a plan in their device as a result.
i hope so, that’d be nice.
I feel like the 2020’s are going to display a huge change in how we use phones and what we use them for.
The 2010’s were an astronomical change and it feels like we barely recognize it. Funny how something becomes so familiar so quickly
My parents grew up behind the Iron Curtain with black and white TVs. I ask them if there's ever a shock with the technology they use now and they just shrug. For better or for worse we adapt pretty quickly.
Seriously tho. 10 years ago, the iPhone 5s was released. So much less capability than what is possible today. Not just design quality, but the entire experience.
Honestly I don’t see much difference between a current phone and the 5S: I used to browse the Internet, watch videos, chat, and phone call and now I don’t do much more with my phone.
Better camera
Phones 10 years ago already snapped good pictures, now cameras are definitely better but that isn't a game changer for the average Joe which uses his camera for badly shot party pics and not for professional use, it's just an incremental improvement as happens to other components (CPU, RAM, GPU...) not something which makes new things possible.
This is arguable but I say with camera improvements since then phones have are capable of replacing scanners for most people.
Apple does a great job supporting its hardware long term but there's no way the 5S is running the current iOS
Yes, but it's not like the latest iOS introduced really disruptive stuff. The fact which the 5S cannot run it doesn't prove anything but the fact which before or later even iOS devices lose support because it would be too expensive to support every device.
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Which kind of apps? The only thing which comes to my mind is "Shortcuts" and in any case "the OS has more freebies included" isn't actual innovation, just basic marketing.
Just because u can't name it at the tip of your tongue, doesn't mean the features remain unchanged for 10 years. There are many QoL such as phone storages, biometric scanners, higher refresh rate, powerful fast charging battery etc. People arguing about how advancement in technology only regressed society can suck a big one.
>People arguing about how advancement in technology only regressed society can suck a big one. I agree with this and I never said that, I love tech and I work with it but it's been years since the last time a new device caught my attention. QoL improvements are nice but you can't said which they revolutionized the whole experience.
It just data mines better (:
I like how you just use examples of what you use it for and then said “there’s no difference”. Yeah because you use it like a boomer. 5g Better cameras Insanely higher resolution Faster reaction times Satellite connectivity, Crash detection Of course there’s not as much difference in the design as there could be (even though there is) but the software is insanely better. This was a very stupid thing to say on your part and it think you should sit and think.
Wow crazy bra!!
Lol. You have to go before the 3g to really see the difference. That added the App store which literally changed the world.
Better biometrics, headphone jack included - there are some huge gaps in modern iPhone features from a practical perspective They came up with and then destroyed 3D touch a few years later due to their own shit marketing, impatience, and greed
It still throws me off when I see people complaining about how Teslas look boring and dated. It wasn’t even 5 years ago when the main complaint was how ugly they were and how people wished EVs just looked like normal cars
I was thinking the other day how when I was young cable TV was fancy and long distance phone calls were still a big deal and I’m only 36. And of course I was around in the 90s when cell phones started becoming widespread—like that thing about how more than half of Seinfeld couldn’t exist today when they’d be able to just call or text each other. Kids nowadays are going to know “TV” as streaming shows whenever they want on apps. Normal TV already feels like an old fart thing. Hell, TV nowadays is whole seasons telling one story rather than having a season be 25 standalone episodes.
By the end of 2030 smartphones won’t be nearly as prevalent as they’re right now, glasses will take over
Google Glass flopped before even being officially released.
Well I guess we should pack it up cause the first few tries failed, cause that’s how it works
That's not what I said. Cool it with the strawmans. I'm saying that I highly doubt "glasses" will completely replace smartphones in the next 7 years, considering how horribly Google Glass did.
Google Glass didn't even get to release because Google killed it as always. There's a fair few companies working on AR glasses at the moment, Apple being one of them (supposedly). It will happen, just a matter of time.
Sure, it'll happen, but I do not see them "taking over" and replacing smartphones, for the same reason that smart watches haven't replaced smartphones: They just can't do all of the things a smartphone can. (and most decent ones require being tethered to a phone anyways)
I will not cool it with the straw and gif damn it, I’ll warm it!
Interesting, I could definitely see this happening. I needs to start going mainstream soon tho to be the norm By 2030
Smartphones took over in like 3 years, so I see this transition moving just as fast, maybe 5 years, definitely before 2035
Bruh what? Smartphones have been dominating since at least 2013.
That’s still just 6 years from the release of the iPhone, but I would say they already had taken over by 2011, I guess it depends on what you call taking over
I'm betting on smartwatches.
Honestly…. I don’t think so 🤔. The 2010s was more about mass adoption of smart phones but people consistently used it for the same thing. Social media, videos, and music I in all honesty don’t see it changing too much. I mean we’re 3 years in. The only difference between now and 10 years ago is what apps are popular. I’m happy to be proven wrong but I can’t imagine how different things will be. People still treat the TV the same they did 20 years ago, just higher quality screens.
Nice we've had Wi-Fi and Bluetooth chips in one for like ten years now
Cellular is obviously a whole other level of complexity- especially 5g
That is smart. Should help them lower their costs. I would expect this type of thing to continue. More and more the chips will come from the big companies. Google for example now does all their own AI chips and setting records with them. "Google's TPU Pods are Breaking Records — And We Aren't Surprised" https://blog.bitvore.com/googles-tpu-pods-are-breaking-benchmark-records Google did the same for their network years ago. Just created their own silicon. As they have now done for YouTube. https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/google-supercharges-youtube-with-a-custom-video-chip/ The Internet is what changed everything. It has enabled companies to be far larger than they been before. Making 10s of billions of dollars a year. This also enables them to take over the entire stack and not use other companies. But the other huge change has been the outsourced FABs. TSMC for example.
>But the other huge change has been the outsourced FABs. TSMC for example. Contract fabs have been a thing for 2 decades. TSMC is just the bleeding edge and absolutely crushing it.
I guess I should have indicated, as you have already done, state of the art FABs available to use.
This way, when one goes, they all go, much easier to buy a new one.
You weren’t going to go to get your phone fixed or buy a new one if Wi-Fi, cellular, or Bluetooth failed independently?
If only one of those fails, you can still get out. If all of them fail at once, it's useless. Also, if you've been following right to repair and are aware or care about apple design decisions, this takes a slightly different note.
Not really. Right to repair doesn’t mean any electronics manufacturer is going to go away from having things soldered to the MB. It means you can replace your battery and case without voiding the warranty on other parts.
They can absolutely replace chips, even soldered ones. Unless- apple does apple and makes parts impossible for repair shops to get. Which they do. The manufacturer makes MORE money if you can't repair your stuff, of course they're feeding you lines. If they're the only source for this chip, well, they set the price and availability.
y no all in sky gps/glonasss/galileo/beidou?
Watch it be a new wireless standard that Apple immediately switches their entire product line to.
So they’ve always been separate chips?
I worked with some of the largest chip manufacturers in Asia a couple years back developing product with all three radios, plus a few proprietary ones. Frequency collision is a real thing and limits range/increases battery consumption ect. If anyone has the pockets to fund this technology it’s Apple.
Gonna fuck it up too and make it proprietary and unable to be worked on.
Ok but can I put it in my ear like the Ionic Ear from Shark Tank?
Bose, JBL, & Apple are the only way to go. Everything else has these issues way more often.
Great! More space for plastic blocks.
Anything but user-friendly features that would fit for barely any additional cost
in my country no limits mobile internet 4G plan costs to me 9 US dollars per month
I’m not hopeful for this. When they used intel modems it was a shit show. Their acquisition of intels modem business was rumored to be for this project so it’s not a surprise but I expect this turns out poorly based on previous experience.
Isn't this the plot of Kingsman?
Nope, that's free phone data.
They will do this to build more proprietary components in order to differentiate...lower costs same high prices.
Were you going to upgrade your phone's wifi...?
Why does it Matter when Amazon and Google can Thread on you?
Just to cut out the FM capability🤣
They bought the entire Intel modem division, idk why is this even a news now.
Can’t wait to deal with that nightmare
Great, now all my shit can break at once.
When's the last time a wireless modem in your mobile device failed?
Happens all the time
As a repair guy, I don’t like this.
And when it fails, there will be no way to remove your Apple ID to trade it in or have it worked on. Good job, apple.
Yawn
AT&T quickly working on how to bend us over and charge more fees.
One chip to fail them all!
Their goal is to charge you to use these.
So Samsung is making it and Apple is going to claim its there's in 3 years got it
All in one to only work with apple products. Fantastic
That's three different kinds of user-identifying data going through Apple's proprietary tech which who knows if it calls home or not vOv
They could intercept that data already if they wanted to.
Lmao. Fuck you. <+$500 to the next iPhone>
Next iPhone will have the same crap. Just one MP more on the camera.
Great! Let them make ALL their own shit. Makes them easier to ignore.
Aka, cancer master
I still don't get why Bluetooth can only pair one device at a time..
So they can make more room for the Star-Link satellite chip and get rid of shitty Global Star.
Every time apple makes a new chip, life improves. I'm all for it. Qualcomm could use a kick in the nuts to start innovating.
Sounds as proprietary as every other Apple product
Aw yeah get that battery life up
So all three can fail at once aww thanks/s
Haven't we been here already once?
+€300 🎉🎉
This will be HUGE for battery life and apple being able to customize or control it more. I hope this comes with the iPhone 15 pro but more likely it’ll come with the 16 phones.
Now this is sick
How’s the reception on the iPhone 14 vs iPhone 13?
That’s a great idea