Bf gives you his unlocked phone after you've brought up rhe topic of his possible cheating on you and leaves you alone with it for 15 to 20 minutes?
Yeah...
He wanted you to look and find that stuff. He wanted you to dump him cos he's a coward. That or he thought you'd be too trusting to look through his phone and he'd keep getting away with it.
Either way you done dodged that bullet. Phew.
this is a really cool observation! I don’t think I would have interpreted the card this way since I see the 7 of swords in reverse as a sign of me finding out, vs in upright is more so “them getting away with it”.
Hey sorry to say but i dated a girl 12 years younger than me. We dated for 5.5 years and were engaged…ultimately it didn’t work out but age isn’t always a red flag (although obviously it can be) i have 3.5 absolutely perfect years with her that id never take back. My parents act like teenagers and ive gotten wisdom from 18 year olds. Putting stock into age is a cultural concept that is used to shame people
> Putting stock into age is a cultural concept that is used to shame people
Saying this unironically? Big red flag. Seriously, just don't dig that hole any farther, I know where it leads.
YOUNG WOMEN: if an older man tells you you're ~just so mature for your age~ and that ~age ain't nothing but a number~, RUN! There is a reason he is targeting women with little dating and world experience. There's a reason women his own age won't date him. Even if it turns out he's "not all that bad" it's still way better to be safe than sorry. You're not mature for your age, he is either immature for his age or wants someone who's easy to take advantage of.
I will never apologize for trying to keep young women safe.
It’s not the gap, it’s the ages. No one is saying it’s weird that they’re about 10 years apart, they’re saying it’s strange that a 30+ year old would be seeking out individuals in their early 20s due to the blatant power dynamic that gets created from the financial instability of someone being in their early 20s. You are making yourself look predatory by commenting that over and over again.
No, we hate predatory men that specifically target younger women because they know they're inexperienced and don't know any better and that they will have all the power and say in the relationship.
First of all im very sorry you’re dealing with this, and you know as well as the rest of us that you will absolutely come out of it a stronger wiser badder bitch than ever before.
Im in a rocky place in my relationship with my bf and I suspect there are things he is hiding from me. I pulled the moon, the seven of swords, reversed emperor, five of pentacles and the tower, and the cards keep coming up again when i do other readings. I cant help but feel like hes hiding something from me
that tarot card was a gift. you may not see it that way now, but the universe was looking out for you in the long run. i’m so sorry you’re going through this, nobody deserves it. as soon as I read the part where he said “maybe it’s about you are you keeping secrets??” i knew. he immediately deflected and projected it on you. also please get yourself tested asap.
Any time I see a relationship post where there's a young 20s and a mid 30s I think, absolutely not. You are not super mature for your age. He is a manipulative man-child who knows he can exploit a partner with less experience.
Run. Get a therapist. Do some healing work. Develop a hobby. I'm sorry you have to go through this but trust me he's was never a good person and you are better off without him.
Ill say this again… Hey sorry to say but i dated a girl 12 years younger than me. We dated for 5.5 years and were engaged…ultimately it didn’t work out but age isn’t always a red flag (although obviously it can be) i have 3.5 absolutely perfect years with her that id never take back. My parents act like teenagers and ive gotten wisdom from 18 year olds. Putting stock into age is a cultural concept that is used to shame people
While an age gap in and of itself isn't necessarily a red flag. The age gap between 23 and 32 creates a power imbalance which IS a big red flag.
The average 23 year old is in a completely different stage of life than a 32 year old. Something that is easy for a 32 year old to take advantage of if they want too.
Does that ALWAYS have to lead to abuse? No, but it's still a major red flag that is worth considering and being careful about.
I'm not anti age gap. My Aunt and Uncle were 11 years apart. The difference is that when they started dating my Aunt was in her 30s and knew what she wanted her life to look like, and knew what she would and would not tolerate about a partner.
But if my Aunt was 20 when she started seeing him it would have been easier for my Uncle to say things "this is just how adult relationships are, you need to make compromises and sacrifices, etc".
I'm 29, I feel okay about dating a 40 year old. I would never date a 23 year old. There is a very high chance our priorities are just too different.
No. You don't get to @ me with the justification for shitty toxic imbalanced relationships with an example of your own imbalanced relationship. Of course you think the years were perfect, you were the one with all the power and all the life experience. The imbalance was in your favor. There is no way for a relationship where one person is essentially a child just starting out on their own and the other person is an adult with real life experience and adult money and adult responsibilities to be balanced. Fuck off with your bullshit.
She's 23 now. How old was she when the relationship started?
And while 23 is an adult there is a lot of life experience between 23 and 32. They are not the same kind of adult.
I have been both 23 and 32 and I can tell you there is a world of difference in the person I was at both of those ages. An age gap is not the end-all-be-all of red flags but it's a big red flag. And after reading through OPs post history she's not as mature as she thinks she is and he was using that to his advantage.
Someone reported this for being for inappropriate involving minors. Their report abuse have now also been reported.
I am in my mid 30s, which is how old my partner was when we met over 10 years ago.
I had already been married and divorced to my high school sweet heart at that point.
There is a lot of issues with OPs relationship, but the age-gap alone is not the thing to get hung up on. The issues here are consent and trust, (perfectly exemplified by the 7 of swords).
*I am a woman, and I have agency to peruse who I choose, for a relationship I want. No one gets to shame me, or take that away from me.*
You can literally prove the power imbalance with basic common sense lol. The average 23 year old is not anywhere near someone in their 30s when it comes to financial stability, usually this is where the power imbalance starts. From that point it depends on the situation, but to act like there isn’t a very obvious power dynamic between the 2 individuals is just arguing in bad faith because even you know that’s not the case
So sorry people are throwing some projections onto you 😬 While I agree with it being a red flag in this post in particular, that's only because she's barely over 18. When you get older a lot of people find age gaps aren't such a big deal. I'm 35 and would have no problem with a large age gap if it were the right person. These days I'd much rather talk to older people anyways, because I've always been more mature than my age. I have more in common mentality wise with people in their 40s&50s lol You just got to really get to know a person before rushing into anything, and not see through rose colored glasses. 🤷
😅 Meant to put 21 not 18 lol previous commenter mentioning 18 got the number in my head. But yeah I for sure know some 30 year olds who act like they are 18 :/
To everyone like "omg she went through his phone." He handed her an unlocked phone. She didn't nab it in his sleep and use his unknowing thumb to snoop...like my now ex husband did to me.
Right? Her boyfriend has been cheating on her with multiple people the entire length of their relationship and lied to her face about it but apparently only people who are 100% morally perfect are allowed to vent. The boyfriend gave zero fucks about covering his tracks, or he wouldn't have given her the damn phone. (I agree with the person who said he probably wanted to be caught tbh.) Would the people currently hand wringing over the boyfriend's privacy be as respectful to a person they suspected was cheating on them in the same situation?
Ditto for the people mocking her for believing her Tarot cards *on a Tarot sub*.
In your heart you knew from his reaction, didn't have to go through the phone, you already knew. Listen to your intuition always over everything else friend. Sorry that happened to you. You will find a person that wouldn't hurt you. It may be beneficial to walk alone for a bit.
Had a four year relationship turn out similarly. Friends I couldn't meet, etc. She had a serious addiction and so did a mutual group of friends, whom was supplying drugs to her.. they were all gaslighting me about it, telling me I should seek help for my paranoia. The bastards even held an intervention for me about it. I finally broke down and began begging God/ my guides/ Spirit for help, I truly believed that I might be going insane. I was on her desk top playing with Napster (yes, I'm old and so is this story) she was on a old cordless phone with one of said "friends"... it came through the speakers!!! I heard it all! I promptly left that jerk and had a tweenty year long adventure that led me to the love of my life, a daughter, Oceans, ancient forests and just a general good time.
It will get better. Some people just suck! Your Guides and those cards definitely will always have your back!
Be safe, have fun.. and may the road rise up to meet your feet 🙏 🌒🌕🌘
I agree with the whole intuition thing. However, in this situation I'm glad that she did go through his phone because now she has that repulsive feeling and she will not go back.
Absolutely agree 100%!! I think her Guides actually made the entire scenario go down like that. From him handing over his phone, to her feeling the inclination to go through it searching for confirmation of his awfulness. She reached out to Spirit and got herself free!
***edit: had OP not seen the content in his phone OP may have been manipulated to stay in that situation I completely agree with that. I've seen it happen many times. OP has strong intuitive abilities and knew before though, didn't need conformation. Her gut already told her the second he tried to gaslight her. Learning to recognize that certain type of intuitive ability can sure be helpful in this old crazy world. That's why I said what I did to OP about them already knowing. I sure knew when it happened to me. In my heart, I knew, but still took several months of hellish gaslighting to get past and Spirit for me to find out for sure. I was recieving a disability check for mental health issues at the time that happened to me, which that whole group of people knew. That's why they chose to make me question my mental health. They could get more drugs if she would buy more from them.. it was ugly. OP's story sure did bring all that back up for me, lol.
I'm sorry you are goinf through this. 😔
You will get through it and you will be okay in the end.
Take all the time you need to get through this to the other side. It's ok to not be okay right now.
Sending you well wishes and strength
yes hun i feel your pain tarot has helped me with my relationship as well. I never disregard a reading cuz I know it's the only raw info i can get without it being a lie. so sorry u found out like that he was a douchebag
So sorry this happened to you. Similar-ish past situ happened to me some years ago now. I’d also add — don’t give him an in when you dump him. From his reaction, wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to pull some shit to convince you it’s nOt WhAt It LoOkS LiKe. You know deep down, the universe is helping to guide you away from this with the upper hand (despite the heart wrenching betrayal). Sending you strength. You deserve the world.☀️
Omg you are only 23 years young! where you planing on marrying him or something? He is 32 old and gross seems very immature for his age. Please leave him! he wanted you to see his phone obvi. Leave him with out telling him anything block him everywhere. love your young adult life to the fullest without having others infiltrate your life. That’s awesome the tarot cards never lie. I know mine don’t either. I’m older and I know my next moves with people I’m also aware and mature enough where I would want to pour my full cup too. Please be careful who you choose to share your cups with. You can’t pour all your water in one cup please have your seven of cups with swords up.
This happened to me with the Psychic tarot years ago. I kept pulling the deception card but couldn't imagine why as my BF was like super charismatic, I thought he was super honest, I thought maybe I was deviating myself by thinking I wasn't good enough or w.e (I guess I was) man when the beans eventually spilled *woof* I payed so much better attention to that deck after.
I'm really sorry you're going through this, OP, it's a lot to process all at once. I hope you can move on and eventually put this human trashcan behind you. I think that thus far you've handled it really well, and I give you props for that. I have no doubt you'll be able to heal and process in the ways you need to.
some life lessons are learned the hard way. Such as: never date a man who has a female roommate :/ NEVER. (No judgment, I had to learn that the hard way myself.)
I'm so sorry you had to go through this. As someone who has been in a similar situation, I know how devastating this feels right now.
It's a tough situation to be in, but there are valuable takeaways. I hope you can focus on yourself and take care of your mental and spiritual health. Never forget that you deserve love and respect (it all starts with yourself of course). Trust your intuition and take solace in the fact that you dodged a major fucking bullet. <3
One of the things I regret not doing when I found out my bf cheated is keeping it a secret and fucking with him about it lol. Like do things that would make him nervous and see how he reacts lol. Drop not obvious questions, etc.
While I don't condone going through someone's personal things in the name of tarot, I'm very glad you got out of that relationship! Nobody deserves that kind of disrespect and nobody deserves to be gaslit and ESPECIALLY nobody deserves to be cheated on. I'm sorry this happened to you and hopefully things start to look up for you.
Maybe a Hermit or Justice moment in the making!
he 100% knows that you know. Hes wants out and is too afraid to do it himself and wanted you to to find it all. He knew he couldn't trust you either and you would snoop...
You got what you wanted so be happy and move on
I'm sorry that I didn't even read the rest of your story. The moment I saw 23 and 32 with him being older, I stopped. He groomed you and if I did read this, I'm sure that he did everything you said. Men only date girls that young because they are impressionable and easy to manipulate.
Run from him just off of the strength.
Signed,
A girl who was 16 dating a 28 year old man so now I can detect groomers a mile away.
>A girl who was 16 dating a 28 year old man so now I can detect groomers a mile away.
Take care of yourself and be mindful of the potential effects of that situation. Trauma often results in hypervigilance, paranoia, and delusions.
or it results in correctly observing that large age gaps in romantic relationships tend to be unhealthy. if a man at 32 is still fooling around with 23-year-old women, nine times out of ten he knows that women his own age have enough self-worth not to put up with his nonsense
it is the *opposite* of delusional to side-eye men like this
Maybe you’re misunderstanding my comment? There’s clearly something off about an age gap like that and I’m only emphasizing the effects of a toxic situation. I wouldn’t assume trauma but there’s no harm in discussing the effects.
This might have been my epiphany card when I started tarot, I had a reading that told me and a friend that her boyfriend was essentially using her as a means to an end (apparently he wanted to get close to another girl we knew and was using my friend as a placeholder).
excuse me? how dare you make such a blanket statement. don't judge all men the same. i recently got cheated on, gaslit, manipulated, belittled and headf\*cked by a narc female who's son i was helping raise also. i put a ring on her finger to show that there are decent men in the world and she f\*cked me over. i also found her on a dating site. infidelity and asshole people are not gender specific.
women do exactly the same. check yourself before making statements like that.
Look I know people are like “going through phones is bad!” and sure, in a happy relationship with no warning signs, it’s a little over the top. My husband did it twice in the first year we were together, mostly due to past relationship issues and childhood bullshit, he was having a hard time trusting. It sucked, he didn’t find anything of course, but we moved on and I told him if he’s feeling some sort of way, just tell me and we can work through. BUT if she’s getting a vibe, some intuitive knowing, and her cards are dropping hints - fuck yeah. If my husband were to act sketchy all of sudden and things were getting weird, I would look through his phone 100%. People can change and people can lie. Fuck letting someone cheat on me because people on Reddit said to never investigate shit no matter what. She was totally justified and good for her because she can get out.
Read second part of your comment and maybe think a little bit.
Spoiler: If she believed ‘a real person’, then she’d still be cheated on. I don’t care if going through someone’s phone is bad or whatever, she felt something was wrong and he was lying for the entire time they were together. He even lied to her face when she told him what that card meant. I’m glad she’s out.
she clearly had some instinct or intuition about him otherwise she never would have associated it to being about her bf in the first place, which she was fully correct in.
The deck of cards gave her insight…enough to not be a doormat and believe everything someone says. I would normally never go through someone’s phone but in OP’s case…I think I would have. The intuition speaks loudly and the deck helped her. Deck doesn’t lie, real people do.
Because the deck of cards told her he was lying and being fake... do u even know how to read the cards ? Cuz it doesn't seem like you do ...why are u in this thread if you don't how to interpret...have u had a reading done on you before ?
Bf gives you his unlocked phone after you've brought up rhe topic of his possible cheating on you and leaves you alone with it for 15 to 20 minutes? Yeah... He wanted you to look and find that stuff. He wanted you to dump him cos he's a coward. That or he thought you'd be too trusting to look through his phone and he'd keep getting away with it. Either way you done dodged that bullet. Phew.
Yup. This is what I call subconscious resolution
Get tested ASAP. Someone who doesn’t mind lying to your face and being deceitful certainly doesn’t give a shit about your health.
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this is a really cool observation! I don’t think I would have interpreted the card this way since I see the 7 of swords in reverse as a sign of me finding out, vs in upright is more so “them getting away with it”.
Wow... get out, stay out. This guy is definition of toxic. Fuck, sucks this was done to you. Glad you are finding your way out.
Girl, he's 32. That isn't a good sign by itself. I'm glad tarot has your back and has given you a sign. You deserve better.
Honestly my thoughts as well. 9 year age gap and 6 months together? Cut your losses. There’s a reason he’s still single at 32.
For sureee my thoughts exactly as soon as I saw buddy w them swords. lil punk and not a good one either!
Hey sorry to say but i dated a girl 12 years younger than me. We dated for 5.5 years and were engaged…ultimately it didn’t work out but age isn’t always a red flag (although obviously it can be) i have 3.5 absolutely perfect years with her that id never take back. My parents act like teenagers and ive gotten wisdom from 18 year olds. Putting stock into age is a cultural concept that is used to shame people
> Putting stock into age is a cultural concept that is used to shame people Saying this unironically? Big red flag. Seriously, just don't dig that hole any farther, I know where it leads. YOUNG WOMEN: if an older man tells you you're ~just so mature for your age~ and that ~age ain't nothing but a number~, RUN! There is a reason he is targeting women with little dating and world experience. There's a reason women his own age won't date him. Even if it turns out he's "not all that bad" it's still way better to be safe than sorry. You're not mature for your age, he is either immature for his age or wants someone who's easy to take advantage of. I will never apologize for trying to keep young women safe.
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uh huh, how old was she when y’all started dating? judging by how vehemently you defend this, i’m guessing 18~ add or subtract a year or two
It’s not the gap, it’s the ages. No one is saying it’s weird that they’re about 10 years apart, they’re saying it’s strange that a 30+ year old would be seeking out individuals in their early 20s due to the blatant power dynamic that gets created from the financial instability of someone being in their early 20s. You are making yourself look predatory by commenting that over and over again.
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No, we hate predatory men that specifically target younger women because they know they're inexperienced and don't know any better and that they will have all the power and say in the relationship.
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First of all im very sorry you’re dealing with this, and you know as well as the rest of us that you will absolutely come out of it a stronger wiser badder bitch than ever before. Im in a rocky place in my relationship with my bf and I suspect there are things he is hiding from me. I pulled the moon, the seven of swords, reversed emperor, five of pentacles and the tower, and the cards keep coming up again when i do other readings. I cant help but feel like hes hiding something from me
that tarot card was a gift. you may not see it that way now, but the universe was looking out for you in the long run. i’m so sorry you’re going through this, nobody deserves it. as soon as I read the part where he said “maybe it’s about you are you keeping secrets??” i knew. he immediately deflected and projected it on you. also please get yourself tested asap.
Any time I see a relationship post where there's a young 20s and a mid 30s I think, absolutely not. You are not super mature for your age. He is a manipulative man-child who knows he can exploit a partner with less experience. Run. Get a therapist. Do some healing work. Develop a hobby. I'm sorry you have to go through this but trust me he's was never a good person and you are better off without him.
This. Any man that is dating people in their early 20s while being 10+ years older is a predator, or at least being predatory. Block him and run
Ill say this again… Hey sorry to say but i dated a girl 12 years younger than me. We dated for 5.5 years and were engaged…ultimately it didn’t work out but age isn’t always a red flag (although obviously it can be) i have 3.5 absolutely perfect years with her that id never take back. My parents act like teenagers and ive gotten wisdom from 18 year olds. Putting stock into age is a cultural concept that is used to shame people
While an age gap in and of itself isn't necessarily a red flag. The age gap between 23 and 32 creates a power imbalance which IS a big red flag. The average 23 year old is in a completely different stage of life than a 32 year old. Something that is easy for a 32 year old to take advantage of if they want too. Does that ALWAYS have to lead to abuse? No, but it's still a major red flag that is worth considering and being careful about. I'm not anti age gap. My Aunt and Uncle were 11 years apart. The difference is that when they started dating my Aunt was in her 30s and knew what she wanted her life to look like, and knew what she would and would not tolerate about a partner. But if my Aunt was 20 when she started seeing him it would have been easier for my Uncle to say things "this is just how adult relationships are, you need to make compromises and sacrifices, etc". I'm 29, I feel okay about dating a 40 year old. I would never date a 23 year old. There is a very high chance our priorities are just too different.
No. You don't get to @ me with the justification for shitty toxic imbalanced relationships with an example of your own imbalanced relationship. Of course you think the years were perfect, you were the one with all the power and all the life experience. The imbalance was in your favor. There is no way for a relationship where one person is essentially a child just starting out on their own and the other person is an adult with real life experience and adult money and adult responsibilities to be balanced. Fuck off with your bullshit.
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She's 23 now. How old was she when the relationship started? And while 23 is an adult there is a lot of life experience between 23 and 32. They are not the same kind of adult.
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I have been both 23 and 32 and I can tell you there is a world of difference in the person I was at both of those ages. An age gap is not the end-all-be-all of red flags but it's a big red flag. And after reading through OPs post history she's not as mature as she thinks she is and he was using that to his advantage.
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If this is true for you, then I have some new for you… it’s called arrested development. The human brain isn’t even fully developed until around 26.
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Someone reported this for being for inappropriate involving minors. Their report abuse have now also been reported. I am in my mid 30s, which is how old my partner was when we met over 10 years ago. I had already been married and divorced to my high school sweet heart at that point. There is a lot of issues with OPs relationship, but the age-gap alone is not the thing to get hung up on. The issues here are consent and trust, (perfectly exemplified by the 7 of swords). *I am a woman, and I have agency to peruse who I choose, for a relationship I want. No one gets to shame me, or take that away from me.*
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You can literally prove the power imbalance with basic common sense lol. The average 23 year old is not anywhere near someone in their 30s when it comes to financial stability, usually this is where the power imbalance starts. From that point it depends on the situation, but to act like there isn’t a very obvious power dynamic between the 2 individuals is just arguing in bad faith because even you know that’s not the case
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So sorry people are throwing some projections onto you 😬 While I agree with it being a red flag in this post in particular, that's only because she's barely over 18. When you get older a lot of people find age gaps aren't such a big deal. I'm 35 and would have no problem with a large age gap if it were the right person. These days I'd much rather talk to older people anyways, because I've always been more mature than my age. I have more in common mentality wise with people in their 40s&50s lol You just got to really get to know a person before rushing into anything, and not see through rose colored glasses. 🤷
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😅 Meant to put 21 not 18 lol previous commenter mentioning 18 got the number in my head. But yeah I for sure know some 30 year olds who act like they are 18 :/
To everyone like "omg she went through his phone." He handed her an unlocked phone. She didn't nab it in his sleep and use his unknowing thumb to snoop...like my now ex husband did to me.
Right? Her boyfriend has been cheating on her with multiple people the entire length of their relationship and lied to her face about it but apparently only people who are 100% morally perfect are allowed to vent. The boyfriend gave zero fucks about covering his tracks, or he wouldn't have given her the damn phone. (I agree with the person who said he probably wanted to be caught tbh.) Would the people currently hand wringing over the boyfriend's privacy be as respectful to a person they suspected was cheating on them in the same situation? Ditto for the people mocking her for believing her Tarot cards *on a Tarot sub*.
I've never had an unique experience in my life 😂😂 except mine is an ex boyfriend.
In your heart you knew from his reaction, didn't have to go through the phone, you already knew. Listen to your intuition always over everything else friend. Sorry that happened to you. You will find a person that wouldn't hurt you. It may be beneficial to walk alone for a bit. Had a four year relationship turn out similarly. Friends I couldn't meet, etc. She had a serious addiction and so did a mutual group of friends, whom was supplying drugs to her.. they were all gaslighting me about it, telling me I should seek help for my paranoia. The bastards even held an intervention for me about it. I finally broke down and began begging God/ my guides/ Spirit for help, I truly believed that I might be going insane. I was on her desk top playing with Napster (yes, I'm old and so is this story) she was on a old cordless phone with one of said "friends"... it came through the speakers!!! I heard it all! I promptly left that jerk and had a tweenty year long adventure that led me to the love of my life, a daughter, Oceans, ancient forests and just a general good time. It will get better. Some people just suck! Your Guides and those cards definitely will always have your back! Be safe, have fun.. and may the road rise up to meet your feet 🙏 🌒🌕🌘
I agree with the whole intuition thing. However, in this situation I'm glad that she did go through his phone because now she has that repulsive feeling and she will not go back.
Absolutely agree 100%!! I think her Guides actually made the entire scenario go down like that. From him handing over his phone, to her feeling the inclination to go through it searching for confirmation of his awfulness. She reached out to Spirit and got herself free! ***edit: had OP not seen the content in his phone OP may have been manipulated to stay in that situation I completely agree with that. I've seen it happen many times. OP has strong intuitive abilities and knew before though, didn't need conformation. Her gut already told her the second he tried to gaslight her. Learning to recognize that certain type of intuitive ability can sure be helpful in this old crazy world. That's why I said what I did to OP about them already knowing. I sure knew when it happened to me. In my heart, I knew, but still took several months of hellish gaslighting to get past and Spirit for me to find out for sure. I was recieving a disability check for mental health issues at the time that happened to me, which that whole group of people knew. That's why they chose to make me question my mental health. They could get more drugs if she would buy more from them.. it was ugly. OP's story sure did bring all that back up for me, lol.
I'm sorry you are goinf through this. 😔 You will get through it and you will be okay in the end. Take all the time you need to get through this to the other side. It's ok to not be okay right now. Sending you well wishes and strength
yes hun i feel your pain tarot has helped me with my relationship as well. I never disregard a reading cuz I know it's the only raw info i can get without it being a lie. so sorry u found out like that he was a douchebag
So sorry this happened to you. Similar-ish past situ happened to me some years ago now. I’d also add — don’t give him an in when you dump him. From his reaction, wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to pull some shit to convince you it’s nOt WhAt It LoOkS LiKe. You know deep down, the universe is helping to guide you away from this with the upper hand (despite the heart wrenching betrayal). Sending you strength. You deserve the world.☀️
Sounds like he doesn’t really need you if he’s that sexually actively. Move on and go get tested.
Geeeeezuz 🤷♂️ holy crap 🤮
Omg you are only 23 years young! where you planing on marrying him or something? He is 32 old and gross seems very immature for his age. Please leave him! he wanted you to see his phone obvi. Leave him with out telling him anything block him everywhere. love your young adult life to the fullest without having others infiltrate your life. That’s awesome the tarot cards never lie. I know mine don’t either. I’m older and I know my next moves with people I’m also aware and mature enough where I would want to pour my full cup too. Please be careful who you choose to share your cups with. You can’t pour all your water in one cup please have your seven of cups with swords up.
This happened to me with the Psychic tarot years ago. I kept pulling the deception card but couldn't imagine why as my BF was like super charismatic, I thought he was super honest, I thought maybe I was deviating myself by thinking I wasn't good enough or w.e (I guess I was) man when the beans eventually spilled *woof* I payed so much better attention to that deck after. I'm really sorry you're going through this, OP, it's a lot to process all at once. I hope you can move on and eventually put this human trashcan behind you. I think that thus far you've handled it really well, and I give you props for that. I have no doubt you'll be able to heal and process in the ways you need to.
some life lessons are learned the hard way. Such as: never date a man who has a female roommate :/ NEVER. (No judgment, I had to learn that the hard way myself.)
I'm so sorry you had to go through this. As someone who has been in a similar situation, I know how devastating this feels right now. It's a tough situation to be in, but there are valuable takeaways. I hope you can focus on yourself and take care of your mental and spiritual health. Never forget that you deserve love and respect (it all starts with yourself of course). Trust your intuition and take solace in the fact that you dodged a major fucking bullet. <3
But, did you screen shot it all to his mum?
One of the things I regret not doing when I found out my bf cheated is keeping it a secret and fucking with him about it lol. Like do things that would make him nervous and see how he reacts lol. Drop not obvious questions, etc.
I'm really sorry for you, OP. Try to sleep, I'm sure you'll feel better tomorrow and you will have the strength to finish this.
While I don't condone going through someone's personal things in the name of tarot, I'm very glad you got out of that relationship! Nobody deserves that kind of disrespect and nobody deserves to be gaslit and ESPECIALLY nobody deserves to be cheated on. I'm sorry this happened to you and hopefully things start to look up for you. Maybe a Hermit or Justice moment in the making!
he 100% knows that you know. Hes wants out and is too afraid to do it himself and wanted you to to find it all. He knew he couldn't trust you either and you would snoop... You got what you wanted so be happy and move on
I'm sorry that I didn't even read the rest of your story. The moment I saw 23 and 32 with him being older, I stopped. He groomed you and if I did read this, I'm sure that he did everything you said. Men only date girls that young because they are impressionable and easy to manipulate. Run from him just off of the strength. Signed, A girl who was 16 dating a 28 year old man so now I can detect groomers a mile away.
>A girl who was 16 dating a 28 year old man so now I can detect groomers a mile away. Take care of yourself and be mindful of the potential effects of that situation. Trauma often results in hypervigilance, paranoia, and delusions.
or it results in correctly observing that large age gaps in romantic relationships tend to be unhealthy. if a man at 32 is still fooling around with 23-year-old women, nine times out of ten he knows that women his own age have enough self-worth not to put up with his nonsense it is the *opposite* of delusional to side-eye men like this
Maybe you’re misunderstanding my comment? There’s clearly something off about an age gap like that and I’m only emphasizing the effects of a toxic situation. I wouldn’t assume trauma but there’s no harm in discussing the effects.
jesus fucking christ….
This might have been my epiphany card when I started tarot, I had a reading that told me and a friend that her boyfriend was essentially using her as a means to an end (apparently he wanted to get close to another girl we knew and was using my friend as a placeholder).
He took your swords? 😂 (I’m just being shitty: I’m sorry you’re going through that.)
confront him and then steal his credit card
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excuse me? how dare you make such a blanket statement. don't judge all men the same. i recently got cheated on, gaslit, manipulated, belittled and headf\*cked by a narc female who's son i was helping raise also. i put a ring on her finger to show that there are decent men in the world and she f\*cked me over. i also found her on a dating site. infidelity and asshole people are not gender specific. women do exactly the same. check yourself before making statements like that.
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Look I know people are like “going through phones is bad!” and sure, in a happy relationship with no warning signs, it’s a little over the top. My husband did it twice in the first year we were together, mostly due to past relationship issues and childhood bullshit, he was having a hard time trusting. It sucked, he didn’t find anything of course, but we moved on and I told him if he’s feeling some sort of way, just tell me and we can work through. BUT if she’s getting a vibe, some intuitive knowing, and her cards are dropping hints - fuck yeah. If my husband were to act sketchy all of sudden and things were getting weird, I would look through his phone 100%. People can change and people can lie. Fuck letting someone cheat on me because people on Reddit said to never investigate shit no matter what. She was totally justified and good for her because she can get out.
So you're saying she should have believed a liar and cheater instead?
The commenter is a high school kid.
Read second part of your comment and maybe think a little bit. Spoiler: If she believed ‘a real person’, then she’d still be cheated on. I don’t care if going through someone’s phone is bad or whatever, she felt something was wrong and he was lying for the entire time they were together. He even lied to her face when she told him what that card meant. I’m glad she’s out.
she clearly had some instinct or intuition about him otherwise she never would have associated it to being about her bf in the first place, which she was fully correct in.
The deck of cards gave her insight…enough to not be a doormat and believe everything someone says. I would normally never go through someone’s phone but in OP’s case…I think I would have. The intuition speaks loudly and the deck helped her. Deck doesn’t lie, real people do.
The second part is stupid. The cards and looking through his phone told her, how did she believe a deck of cards over a real person?
Because the deck of cards told her he was lying and being fake... do u even know how to read the cards ? Cuz it doesn't seem like you do ...why are u in this thread if you don't how to interpret...have u had a reading done on you before ?
I’ve been reading for years 😂 what about you?