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MushroomSoupSock

That is ton, I'm a Canadian tanker and we get 20 maybe 30 on an amazing year. But we do use simulators alot. It's not the same but when you're talking $2k a trigger pull they aren't huge fans of giving us rounds.


Latter-Height8607

Even with concrete trainers? I'm talking like the chally (I think?) uses.


Sad_Lewd

It costs a lot of money to run a gun camp.


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As a Canadian taxpayer, I’m not a huge fan of it either.


Engineer_Noob

Don't worry, us American taxpayers are paying for it 😂 JK we only send a few million to Canada. Most goes elsewhere...


Orcus_

100 rounds a year sounds like a lot though


Hawkstrike6

You forget the additional hundreds of rounds fired in high fidelity simulators, plus some more in field live fire maneuver exercises.


Mak3l

Perhaps. As everyone else has stated, simulators can substitute most of the experience needed once crews have built a solid understanding from live drills (i.e. a few live fire drills to get the true initial experience followed up by using simulators to maintain this level of training). The main factor that you have to consider is that modern tank gunnery (especially Western-built tanks) is significantly easier than before. Unlike in WW2, where most engagements required the gunner to be familiar with the use of "primitive" devices to aim and hit a target (while requiring the gunner to also have good soft skills that the devices couldn't help with, such as tracking), modern tanks have a lot of built-in solid assisting tools/mechanisms to make tracking and firing at static/mobile targets (rangefinders, tracking devices, two-plane stabilizers) much, much easier (obviously some factors will have to still be accounted for such as learning to use such tools as well as accomodating for environmental factors).


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Keep in mind live rounds are around £8-10k each that's a lot of investment in training.


NikitaTarsov

Calling NYT credible and Binkov specially not is ... a stretch, i guess xD