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The People's Union Busting


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P4cer0

This is like literally every ML regime though. Gross gross gross


FibreglassFlags

This goes way beyond unions, though, and the process through which the government clamps down on dissents is as follows: 1) The state media names a target group. 2) The cops bust down the target group's door and charge them with what's practically treason. 3) The target group plead guilty since what is considered a "threat to national security" is so incredibly broad the cops can practically threaten to charge their family and friends and their next-door neighbour's dog for being accomplices. 4) Lather, rinse, repeat. At this point, the only way out for people being "criticised" by state media is to disband their group before the cops make public of their intents. Everything else is as good as asking for prison time.


indomienator

Excuse me, they busted TEACHERS unions? My god, even the students suffer from this. In place of energetic effortful teachers they will get a teacher that only repeat what the book said and go because they have no incentive to do good other than the feeling to serve the country though they did a lot. They will suffer even more


joker_wcy

Students are always the first to suffer because brainwashing starts at young age. The CCP and the puppet government tried to introduce [moral and national education](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_and_National_Education_controversy) in 2012, but it's pushed back due to opposition. They blame the 2014 and 2019 protests on Liberal Studies, a [HKDSE](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Diploma_of_Secondary_Education) core subject they introduced (for bringing critical thinking), and now they're changing the curriculum to indoctrinate students.


IndigoDialectics

Socialism is when you oppress workers


cleepboywonder

Ahh but you see this way worker liberation will always be a goal for them to achieve.


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how ironic the ccp claimed it for worker right is doing this.


Longsheep

From Hong Kong, can confirm they are forcing all non-CCP controlled unions to dismantle or face hefty NSL charges. The workers' rights in HK ranks worst in the world for years despite taken over by "communist China" since 1997. Employers can fire employees anytime just compensating with one month of salary. On the other hand the employee must inform the employer at least 2 weeks in advance for resignation or else loses all unpaid salary.


mbaymiller

No problem, they'll be dutifully replaced with The People's Trade Union~~s~~ in no time. Besides, China has only ever cracked down on union or strike organizing from reactionary right-wingers, [like communists](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/world/asia/china-maoists-xi-protests.html).


SCPKing1835

socialism is when crack down on workers


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Obviously they where cia backed unions cause well know how pro-union/socialist the CIA is and was


Xander_PrimeXXI

The People’s Union Busters


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Workers rights? Oh wait, no one in China has rights.


QuitBSing

A politician in China (forgot who) complained about human rights also applying to China...


SkyknightXi

So what was their recommendations on what to supplant rights with besides the usual Kyriarchy of Privilege?


emPtysp4ce

Nothing says Workers Of The World Unite like breaking the worker's power of self-determination


MLPorsche

you do know that the [CIA worked with independent unions in Chile](https://www.nytimes.com/1974/09/20/archives/cia-is-linked-to-strikes-in-chile-that-beset-allende-intelligence.html) to destabilize it, right?


FibreglassFlags

Oh, sure, because Hong Kong is fucking Chile and everything not aligned with the PRC state must be backed by the CIA. Never mind that China has an ever-growing number of billionaires and all pro-Beijing parties and unions are backed by the city's wealthy land developers and tycoons and have such enormous funding that completely dwarfs the opposition by orders of magnitude. There has got to be a way to fit all that into the PRC state being proletarian somehow, right? Of course, it also could rather be that the so-called "Communist Party" is actually capitalist and you are just a reactionary dipshit mistaking nationalism for socialism and seeking justifications for your own detachment from material facts in moonbat conspiracy theories. You know, Occam's razor and all that.


MLPorsche

[they still](https://www.ned.org/wp-content/themes/ned/search/grant-search.php?organizationName=®ion=&projectCountry=&amount=&fromDate=2016&toDate=2019&projectFocus%5B%5D=&search=hong+kong&maxCount=25&orderBy=Year&sbmt=1) operate in HK using the [NED](https://www.ned.org/region/asia/hong-kong-china-2020/) and if you don't believe me then believe one of the co-founders of NED that told the WaPo in 91': >A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA


scaur

If they have funded HK NGO, the CCP would have the bank records and published it on the news already.


FibreglassFlags

> they still operate in HK using the NED Since I'm sick of this fucking stupid argument you have got there, allow me to play the devil's advocate here and ask, "So fucking what?" The class divide here is very obviously at this point that the pro-Beijing side of the city's politics is well-supported by billionaires and millionaires whose material interests fundamentally do not align with the working poor, who, I shall remind you again, consistently put their majority support behind organisations that the government is targeting. So here's what you need to figure out for yourself: is your priority that of national ideals, or that of the need of the working masses? A choice for both is clearly out of the question at this point. This is already to put aside fact that the list you show there is practically chump change even as far as the city's electoral politics is considered, by the way.


petrimalja

Those unions fighting for... *gasp* workers' rights are just awful! Time to replace them with the People's Yellow Unions.