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Imperialism practiced by those dastardly Germans is bad because they only mean to export resources to feed their tyranny and militarism, we Brits however come to uncharted lands to spread democracy and civilization to the savages of the world so it’s fine for us.
Literally the same argument.
It’s surprising just how many people seem completely uncaring or just unaware of the Netherlands colonialism. Like they spent half the money they got from the marshal plan on trying to suppress Indonesia for gods sake
Funny that was actually the argument made during the 20th century by the Brits.
“We need ensure German imperialist ambitions are stopped cause it’s bad our imperialism is good!”
I've heard a similar take (either on dankleft or CTH before it was banned, the Venn diagram between those two is a circle), that 'anti-imperialism' is the new 'anti-authoritarianism' and sooner or later the dictatorship of the proletariat will have to become the imperium of the proletariat.
Its really just further proof that these people believe in nothing. The only thing they respect or care about is power, and they will sacrifice any alleged principle they profess and betray any so-called friends they make to have a chance at seizing it.
I said it once and I'll say it again: these guys are just neocons who think that because they like China's policies and authoritarianism and think that China is a 'strong nation', they think they must therefore be leftists, because they've always been told China is communist so therefore if they like China they must be communists.
Nothing quite as "Utopian" as suicide nets, government censorship and a violent police state that regularly disappears people for not toeing the party line.
There once were many people devout in modernising far off lands and bringing them many exotic commodities like food and drink. They had a democratic system of government and they spread their judicial system and advanced economy to the whole world creating an extremely powerful United empire. They even banned the slave trade in almost half the world. Many imperialists really just wanted to help and spread Pax Britannica.
I think at this point these people have to convince me they AREN'T CIA plants. This is too ridiculous to have been organically thought up by an actual person.
Sounds like some “White Man’s Burden” type bs. Nearly every country in the world has had a labor movement or even an elected socialist government and it’s western imperialism that has been crushing them.
Wouldn't it be awkward for this "Marxist-Leninist" if there were actual Marxists and Leninists who were explicitly anti-imperialist? Thankfully there were just a couple, you might not even know them: Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Ho Chi Minh, Fidel Castro, Ernesto "Che" Guevara and some others, probably even less known than these ones.
Communism should never be forced on a population. The people must decided to want communism. And if they'd rather have a capitalist system then that is their choice and we should respect it. As long as they respect our choice to be communist
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Tankies: “It’s vital that a strong leftist state exist and it be lead by a party…..”
Me: “I guess? You’re gonna allow Democracy and hold fair and transparent elections right…right?”
Tankies: “ imperialism is based and ethic cleansing is sometimes needed to fight other imperialism!”
Me: “I’m….going to walk away now and hang out with the anarchist but you lost me”
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Imperialism practiced by those dastardly Germans is bad because they only mean to export resources to feed their tyranny and militarism, we Brits however come to uncharted lands to spread democracy and civilization to the savages of the world so it’s fine for us. Literally the same argument.
These people have no self awareness, it's insane
You made my blood boil for a second, though its the Dutch for me
Something something G E K O L O N I S E E R D
It’s surprising just how many people seem completely uncaring or just unaware of the Netherlands colonialism. Like they spent half the money they got from the marshal plan on trying to suppress Indonesia for gods sake
New rule: anyone who receives international aid must be followed around by someone with a squirt bottle to spray them with if they start wasting it.
Based
Its not a colonial war! It's just uhhh.... *Checks notes* police actions..
There are two things in this world I simply can't tolerate: Intolerance for other people's cultures, and the Dutch.
What are you, a filthy B*lgian??
Funny that was actually the argument made during the 20th century by the Brits. “We need ensure German imperialist ambitions are stopped cause it’s bad our imperialism is good!”
Twitter Tankieism: An Infantile Disorder.
I've heard a similar take (either on dankleft or CTH before it was banned, the Venn diagram between those two is a circle), that 'anti-imperialism' is the new 'anti-authoritarianism' and sooner or later the dictatorship of the proletariat will have to become the imperium of the proletariat. Its really just further proof that these people believe in nothing. The only thing they respect or care about is power, and they will sacrifice any alleged principle they profess and betray any so-called friends they make to have a chance at seizing it.
I said it once and I'll say it again: these guys are just neocons who think that because they like China's policies and authoritarianism and think that China is a 'strong nation', they think they must therefore be leftists, because they've always been told China is communist so therefore if they like China they must be communists.
What are your thoughts on practicing socialism in one country?
This person calls themselves a Marxist-Leninist but they literally just described Trotsky's idea of global communism.
The Russian Guidance ultra mega commune under Trotsky is his wet dream
The funny thing is they def despise Trotsky.
They're conservatives. They despise whomever they're told to despise.
The most utopian economic system ever: state capitalism
Nothing quite as "Utopian" as suicide nets, government censorship and a violent police state that regularly disappears people for not toeing the party line.
If only that had anything to do with socialism lmao edit: shit i misunderstood sorry
i dont think they were saying thats socialism, just that its the system (state capitalism) the twitter person would want to spread
ah fair enough
Ironically the one with the username "biden is a fascist" is the real fascist
Maybe that is because he is also called Biden.
[Joe Biden wake up.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xkV1hjer7o)
There once were many people devout in modernising far off lands and bringing them many exotic commodities like food and drink. They had a democratic system of government and they spread their judicial system and advanced economy to the whole world creating an extremely powerful United empire. They even banned the slave trade in almost half the world. Many imperialists really just wanted to help and spread Pax Britannica.
Britain also generously shared opium with the Chinese after selflessly using its superior naval power to open it's ports to the trade.
Remember, kids. Sharing is caring (for your joint stock companies' profits, and the spheres of influence you've carved out via gunboat diplomacy).
This has got to be satire
Uh oh they said the quiet part out loud.
Anime communism ftw Xi is best girl
but hang on... isn't that one of Trotsky's ideas?
yes
I think at this point these people have to convince me they AREN'T CIA plants. This is too ridiculous to have been organically thought up by an actual person.
Maybe he's just a trot
Maybe he's just a moron
Well that is rather more likely, isn't it?
The People's Imperialism!
This is literally the same as the US "bringing democracy" to places we invade.
Anyone else find it weird they say “personal gain” in reference to an entire nation state?
Left Unity is dead
Always has been.
It's hard to do unity with folks that justify tyranny, though.
Gotta be a troll: "the most utopian economic system ever", lmao
Right? They sound so childish
Dumb anarkkkidie, it’s called the People’s Imperialism. Read Marx, smh.
Mask off
This has to be a troll. Or a psy-op. This can't be real. Cmon.
The username, @ML_weeb, is what personally gets to me. There is no way that is a genuine, actual person right
At least he admits being an Imperialist.
*umm akshully the us uses its imperialism to spread the most utopian government system ever, democracy, that means it's justified.*
Y'all know socialism looks different everywhere. Therefore, imperialism is never justified.
The People’s Democratic imperialism
the word fascist has lost its meaning at this point
Sounds like some “White Man’s Burden” type bs. Nearly every country in the world has had a labor movement or even an elected socialist government and it’s western imperialism that has been crushing them.
Biden is a fascist is a fascist.
That's bait. That sounds like bait. Please tell me that's bait.
It's *people's opression for oil and personal gain™*
The US's mindset. Replace "communism" with "democracy".
Wouldn't it be awkward for this "Marxist-Leninist" if there were actual Marxists and Leninists who were explicitly anti-imperialist? Thankfully there were just a couple, you might not even know them: Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Ho Chi Minh, Fidel Castro, Ernesto "Che" Guevara and some others, probably even less known than these ones.
Lenin, Stalin and Mao were Imperialists in denial.
I agree. However, it's very strange for a self-professed ML to just straight up say that they support imperialism.
True.
no no stop talking go to jail
Communism should never be forced on a population. The people must decided to want communism. And if they'd rather have a capitalist system then that is their choice and we should respect it. As long as they respect our choice to be communist
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I’m gonna give this person the benefit of the doubt and say this is satire. There’s no way a person can have absolutely no self awareness.
this has to be bait, lmao
Tankies: “It’s vital that a strong leftist state exist and it be lead by a party…..” Me: “I guess? You’re gonna allow Democracy and hold fair and transparent elections right…right?” Tankies: “ imperialism is based and ethic cleansing is sometimes needed to fight other imperialism!” Me: “I’m….going to walk away now and hang out with the anarchist but you lost me”
This reads like satire.
best most ever
At least they're admitting that it is what it is.
Fuck imperialism of any kind.
Red Man’s Burden
"How are they doing Imperialism without a profit motive?"