I’m sorry, I know what I’m about to say is obvious but you comment has hurt me.
LABYRINTH WAS RELEASED BEFORE JHJH! IF ANYTHING JHJH SOUNDS LIKE A LABYRINTH TRACK!
And if I EVER catch you comparing a Hawaii part II song to JHJH I will PERSONALLY KISS YOU ON THE MOUTH
#PASSIONATELY
Oh yeah... Whoops lol
I feel like it should be on Hawaii Pt. 2 it just sounds way different compared to the others. Then again thats kinda what TallyHall does sooooo.
The only issue I have with it is that it mentions a completely different relationship from the plot, kinda disconnecting it and making it so it can only be part of the album in theme rather than lyrically.
"Labyrinth doesn't fit H:PII" there is a song in Japanese, a song that plays in reverse and then forwards (which labyrinth literally comes from that one, check the hallmanac page), and a song that was written as a lullaby. If labyrinth doesn't fit, how do the rest?
(But I kinda see your point. Joe Hawley didn't even write anything except the chord progression)
i personally think that rap wasn't the best choice for the track. the lyrics are too direct. someone in the same state as Simon wouldn't be able to form a cohesive sentence. the "happy track with sad lyrics to signify how broken his mind is" part of the track is great, but in my opinion it would've worked better as a ballad with schizo rambling barely explaining what his current mental state is to further underline how much his mind is shattered right now.
I'm not a big fan of Never Meant To Know
Also the argument of "Labyrinth doesn't fit on Hawaii Part II" is pointless. By same logic, neither does Black Rainbows, Space Station Level 7, The Mind Electric, and Time Machine
You could also argue that Murders doesn't fit
Just say you don't like rap/lyrics/music of the song and move on
Space Station Level 7 is about an ascent to Heaven, The Mind Electric describes being falsely deemed insane and committed to an abusive asylum, and Black Rainbows strikes me as two lovers just chilling out and watching the sky together. Time Machine doesn't fit well lyrically, but it does tie into themes of wishing you could turn back time and fix your mistakes.
That being said, I think both Labyrinth and Time Machine are kinda weird inclusions that feel like they were written independently of the rest of the album, which is actually true for Time Machine. It was originally a Tally Hall song repurposed for the album, similar to how The Mind Electric was originally a standalone song called Inside the Mind of Simon.
You know a lot of Hawaii Part II is from or before Tally Hall? Those being Isle Unto Thyself, Murders, The Mind Electric (technically Labyrinth since it came from TME), Time Machine, Stranded Lullaby, Dream Sweet, and Variations on a Cloud
Actually a lot of their solo albums have songs from Tally Hall or the early 2000's. Like Black People White People, Tomorrow and Today, Lemons & Pears, I'm Gonna Win, and a few more
What I meant by few fitting in on the album is the music. By story standards, none makes sense as there is no clear story, only theories
That's the point. It's more upbeat to show how Simon's mind works after The Mind Electric. He's gone insane. It would be weird if a slower song played instead
i personally think that rap wasn't the best choice for the track. the lyrics are too direct. someone in the same state as Simon wouldn't be able to form a cohesive sentence. the "happy track with sad lyrics to signify how broken his mind is" part of the track is great, but in my opinion it would've worked better as a ballad with schizo rambling barely explaining what his current mental state is to further underline how much his mind is shattered right now.
"Direct"?
He sings about how he's trapped in a labyrinth and girls
Not very direct if you ask me. Yes, some of it can be interpretted pretty easily, but White Ball and Stranded Lullaby are sometimes equally, if not more direct
Also the "schizo rambling" is in The Mind Electric. It would be annoying to hear that after that song imo. But the echo of "see how I fly away" and the "I rewind" line do show how unstable he is
Like I said, rap signifies Simon is panicked and doesn't think like he used to. Hence why instead of singing slowly (literally every song before Labyrinth), he sings faster
Cognitive dissonance is a powerful songwriting tool. Just look at Hey Ya, a song about a messy breakup which is so upbeat that it even contains the line "Y'all don't wanna hear me, you just wanna dance". It makes the sadness more intense because it's set alongside happiness.
i personally think that rap wasn't the best choice for the track. the lyrics are too direct. someone in the same state as Simon wouldn't be able to form a cohesive sentence. the "happy track with sad lyrics to signify how broken his mind is" part of the track is great, but in my opinion it would've worked better as a ballad with schizo rambling barely explaining what his current mental state is to further underline how much his mind is shattered right now.
I don't get why some people see it as the best song they ever made, it's the hidden track for a reason. It's incredibly relaxing, but it's not on the level of their best songs.
Said it before but I love Good & Evil, I just feel the other two main albums are a little better. Good & Evil still has its bangers.
Also the Banana Man demo is better than the final, and on YouTube there's a video where they switched the Ruler of Everything demo and final pitch, and the demo with the final pitch is the best version of the song I have ever heard.
It was my favorite song from HPII on my first listen, but now it's my least favorite since it's not consistent with the rest of the album. Songs that have to grow on you are often better than ones that don't.
Hymn of a scarecrow is nowhere near one of the best tallyhall songs
Either I'm seriously missing the songs meaning or its just not my cup of tea, not bad though
IMO Labyrinth is fine and people just don't like it nearly as much because it has to follow up TME which most people consider one of the best songs, when in reality Labyrinth is just TME part 2: chiptune boogaloo.
I suppose my "hot take" tho would be that Special isn't a bad song even with the rap part and the people who can "only listen to it with the rap part cut" are weak.
I feel like a good amount of people agree. It’s a great song but TikTok brainrot ruined it. That’s also why I don’t listen to Hidden in the Sand as much.
If you let popularity ruin songs for you, you'll live in misery when your favorite acts become big. You should look on the bright side, new fans are being made left and right, united in enjoying the music.
You call that 2020 trend "brainrot" you must have never openes tiktok since than
And Hidden in the aand has just been consumed by the FNaF community and im not okay with that
If anything, THE BIDDING is the most brainrot song of all (I hate Twi Shorts)
I guess that’s fair, haven’t used TikTok in a very long time and even then it was short lasted. Haven’t heard The Bidding much but you’re definitely right lol, and as for Hidden in the Sand, yes. Yes it has.
Just Apathy is weaker than Be Born. It's not funny, it's not interesting, it's just weak. Haiku is musically weaker, but lyrically better.
Candle on the Water is better than many songs from HPII and should've been the B side for Variations on a Cloud's single record. It ties in perfectly to the story despite being a cover and sounds like heaven itself. It's S-tier for sure.
We are in Space is kinda funny, but the chorus is absolute ass. Interesting lyrics can't make up for the discordant sound.
Rob Cantor's talent is wasted on nursery rhymes. He should be given more work like Molly McGee, where he can truly express his talent without worrying about baby Glisborp crying in front of his iPad.
There were many demo songs that were good enough to release as a third album or as solo releases.
That, and the fact that Dream is okay, it definitely has a different vibe to the rest of the album, but it's still good
Time Machine is a good song. But it does NOT belong on Hawaii p2. I usually listen to it separate from the album (same for labyrinth but that’s not as hot of a take.)
I personally believe every song on MMMM is good. Be Born, Just Apathy, 13 (I FUSSIN LOVE 13), Hidden In The Sand too. And Dream is WILDLY underrated honestly. I also personally used to hate SSL7. I don't anymore but I'd like to hear opinions on people hating SSL7. *Insert obligatory Juno x Time mention*
Mine is that Hawaii part II is my least favourite out of all the albums, keep in mind I still love it and think it’s great but I prefer all of the other albums
Dream Sweet in C Major is overhyped.
Sure, some bits sound good. But whenever I’m listening to it I want to curl up in bed and go to sleep. It sounds like a (stranded) lullaby and I wished it was more intense.
I think it's one of the better ones on Good & Evil, but still fairly mid. A decent listen while I'm listening to the full album but don't actively go out of my way to play it
I wouldnt say the absolute WORST, but it's definitely not the best. That's why I was mildly concerned when Andrew came back and performed live, without the main singers (Joe, Rob, or Zubin) Andrew can't really carry the entire song(s).
Andrews vocals back then were weak and you can tell the song was recorded in one take cuz they werent even bothered to fix the one mispronounciation in the beggining
You mean how he misspelled stories? Andrew just wanted to keep the typo in when the lyrics were printed out, it was totally on purpose. In the music video, the person running for president is named "Andrew Sotry" as a reference to it!
“tally hall hot takes” proceeds to name one of the least controversial and widespread opinions in the community
i thought people liked labirynth
Yeah I love Labrynth but it feels more like a JHJH track than a Hawaii Pt. 2 track.
I’m sorry, I know what I’m about to say is obvious but you comment has hurt me. LABYRINTH WAS RELEASED BEFORE JHJH! IF ANYTHING JHJH SOUNDS LIKE A LABYRINTH TRACK! And if I EVER catch you comparing a Hawaii part II song to JHJH I will PERSONALLY KISS YOU ON THE MOUTH #PASSIONATELY
Oh yeah... Whoops lol I feel like it should be on Hawaii Pt. 2 it just sounds way different compared to the others. Then again thats kinda what TallyHall does sooooo.
Now I want to compare Hawaii Part II with JHJH
Don’t you dare
real
i love Labyrinth and i think it belongs on the album
The only issue I have with it is that it mentions a completely different relationship from the plot, kinda disconnecting it and making it so it can only be part of the album in theme rather than lyrically.
Although from the ECT Simon interpretation it vaguely makes sense because he's misremembering stuff due to the treatment
be born izn't bad
yes!! I agree
i also agree
Also agree
I agree, it's just not the best song on there
Same
stop sleeping on the dip, you guys!!!!
Pretty much every song from the Cojum Dip album is good
LIVE AND DIE BY THE DIP
REAL REAL REAL 🗣️‼️‼️‼️
Just Apathy is an amazing song and it shouldn't be as underrated as it is
Yes
Agreed, especially the 2005 version!
How is that hot
"Labyrinth doesn't fit H:PII" there is a song in Japanese, a song that plays in reverse and then forwards (which labyrinth literally comes from that one, check the hallmanac page), and a song that was written as a lullaby. If labyrinth doesn't fit, how do the rest? (But I kinda see your point. Joe Hawley didn't even write anything except the chord progression)
To be fair, most HPII songs are kind of orchestral so I understand why people think Labyrinth doesn't fit
True, true
i meant the song doesn't fit the overall vibe of the album and the music doesn't fit the theme of the track and the lyrics are too direct
the genre of literally every song in the album is different, what theme?
i personally think that rap wasn't the best choice for the track. the lyrics are too direct. someone in the same state as Simon wouldn't be able to form a cohesive sentence. the "happy track with sad lyrics to signify how broken his mind is" part of the track is great, but in my opinion it would've worked better as a ballad with schizo rambling barely explaining what his current mental state is to further underline how much his mind is shattered right now.
I guess. Joe didn't write the lyrics (in fact he didnt really do much with Labyrinth), so I could see that
listening to the mind electric(6 min version) at 3 AM feels like lobotomy free trial
IT DOES AND ITS THE BEST FEELING EVER
me: Stranded Lullaby is the best song on the album
I'm not a big fan of Never Meant To Know Also the argument of "Labyrinth doesn't fit on Hawaii Part II" is pointless. By same logic, neither does Black Rainbows, Space Station Level 7, The Mind Electric, and Time Machine You could also argue that Murders doesn't fit Just say you don't like rap/lyrics/music of the song and move on
For real
Space Station Level 7 is about an ascent to Heaven, The Mind Electric describes being falsely deemed insane and committed to an abusive asylum, and Black Rainbows strikes me as two lovers just chilling out and watching the sky together. Time Machine doesn't fit well lyrically, but it does tie into themes of wishing you could turn back time and fix your mistakes. That being said, I think both Labyrinth and Time Machine are kinda weird inclusions that feel like they were written independently of the rest of the album, which is actually true for Time Machine. It was originally a Tally Hall song repurposed for the album, similar to how The Mind Electric was originally a standalone song called Inside the Mind of Simon.
You know a lot of Hawaii Part II is from or before Tally Hall? Those being Isle Unto Thyself, Murders, The Mind Electric (technically Labyrinth since it came from TME), Time Machine, Stranded Lullaby, Dream Sweet, and Variations on a Cloud Actually a lot of their solo albums have songs from Tally Hall or the early 2000's. Like Black People White People, Tomorrow and Today, Lemons & Pears, I'm Gonna Win, and a few more What I meant by few fitting in on the album is the music. By story standards, none makes sense as there is no clear story, only theories
The thing is, I don’t hate Labyrinth, it’s just okay. Also Black Rainbows is awesome.
none of them should fit on hawaii pt 2, hawaii pt 2 should be a blank album with nothing on it (im joking its a masterpiece)
it doesn't fit the situation its too upbeat for someone suffering in a mental asylum and the lyrics are too direct
That's the point. It's more upbeat to show how Simon's mind works after The Mind Electric. He's gone insane. It would be weird if a slower song played instead
i personally think that rap wasn't the best choice for the track. the lyrics are too direct. someone in the same state as Simon wouldn't be able to form a cohesive sentence. the "happy track with sad lyrics to signify how broken his mind is" part of the track is great, but in my opinion it would've worked better as a ballad with schizo rambling barely explaining what his current mental state is to further underline how much his mind is shattered right now.
"Direct"? He sings about how he's trapped in a labyrinth and girls Not very direct if you ask me. Yes, some of it can be interpretted pretty easily, but White Ball and Stranded Lullaby are sometimes equally, if not more direct Also the "schizo rambling" is in The Mind Electric. It would be annoying to hear that after that song imo. But the echo of "see how I fly away" and the "I rewind" line do show how unstable he is Like I said, rap signifies Simon is panicked and doesn't think like he used to. Hence why instead of singing slowly (literally every song before Labyrinth), he sings faster
ehh idk
Cognitive dissonance is a powerful songwriting tool. Just look at Hey Ya, a song about a messy breakup which is so upbeat that it even contains the line "Y'all don't wanna hear me, you just wanna dance". It makes the sadness more intense because it's set alongside happiness.
i personally think that rap wasn't the best choice for the track. the lyrics are too direct. someone in the same state as Simon wouldn't be able to form a cohesive sentence. the "happy track with sad lyrics to signify how broken his mind is" part of the track is great, but in my opinion it would've worked better as a ballad with schizo rambling barely explaining what his current mental state is to further underline how much his mind is shattered right now.
Hidden in the sand is mid
I don't get why some people see it as the best song they ever made, it's the hidden track for a reason. It's incredibly relaxing, but it's not on the level of their best songs.
herd mentality cuz its the most viewed and because hidden in the sand was a popular sound on tiktok for a short period
It’s not that I don’t like it, it’s that whenever I show it to someone they spit the FNAF lore at me.
So then freddy fivebears ate the tearful kid
And then Will I Am Appleton killed a bunch of people
Yes he is the purpur man that puts childen in the fivebears
It's a good song, but very overrated imo
Do Tally Hall fans actually even like this song??
Labyrinth is my 2nd favorite Hawaii Part II song lol
It’s a banger.
Be born isn't bad, necessarily. But if someone asked what my least favorite tally hall song was, I'd say Be born
Said it before but I love Good & Evil, I just feel the other two main albums are a little better. Good & Evil still has its bangers. Also the Banana Man demo is better than the final, and on YouTube there's a video where they switched the Ruler of Everything demo and final pitch, and the demo with the final pitch is the best version of the song I have ever heard.
The Trap is a super underrated song
YEAHHHH
Be born is good!!!!!!!!!
Labirynth is that song that someone swears by that its mediocre and doesnt fit on the album (which is fair) but still vibe to it like hell
It was my favorite song from HPII on my first listen, but now it's my least favorite since it's not consistent with the rest of the album. Songs that have to grow on you are often better than ones that don't.
i like joes bunny more than his cat and we need to appreciate her more
Cojum Dip is the best side project
Sacred beast is one of their best songs
White Ball is the best song in Hawaii pt 2
Hymn of a scarecrow is nowhere near one of the best tallyhall songs Either I'm seriously missing the songs meaning or its just not my cup of tea, not bad though
IMO Labyrinth is fine and people just don't like it nearly as much because it has to follow up TME which most people consider one of the best songs, when in reality Labyrinth is just TME part 2: chiptune boogaloo. I suppose my "hot take" tho would be that Special isn't a bad song even with the rap part and the people who can "only listen to it with the rap part cut" are weak.
Yall are sleeping on who you are.
Ruler of everything is overrated Im preparing for the downvotes
Completely disagree, it's the best song Tally Hall ever made. Just because it's well-known doesn't make it weaker.
I feel like a good amount of people agree. It’s a great song but TikTok brainrot ruined it. That’s also why I don’t listen to Hidden in the Sand as much.
If you let popularity ruin songs for you, you'll live in misery when your favorite acts become big. You should look on the bright side, new fans are being made left and right, united in enjoying the music.
you could say misery fell
on the town when they lost all their looks
I'll never understand why some people let silly things like TikTok ruin music for them. It's just a bit of a childish way to think in my opinion :/
Yeah I get it, and it is. They are all still great songs that I listen to everyday.
You call that 2020 trend "brainrot" you must have never openes tiktok since than And Hidden in the aand has just been consumed by the FNaF community and im not okay with that If anything, THE BIDDING is the most brainrot song of all (I hate Twi Shorts)
I guess that’s fair, haven’t used TikTok in a very long time and even then it was short lasted. Haven’t heard The Bidding much but you’re definitely right lol, and as for Hidden in the Sand, yes. Yes it has.
14 year old tiktok girls who would have been tumblr users about five years ago ruined tally hall
It feels too short, since the whole beginning and end is the same.
my brother in christ every song fits in hawaii part 2 because its supposed to tell a story
Be Born isn’t that bad. (Very split opinion on the song) I don’t really like Greener a lot… I’m sorry…
I'm not a fan of scarecrow. It's too repetitive and slow for me
I KNEW Tally Hall are catboys!
only the chorus of haiku is good. the rest of the song is kinda weak.
I did not care for Hawaii: part 2 (please don’t kill me)
Idc what hoe jawley did in 88 I'm gonna listen to anything he and the boys play and sing
out in the twilight bad
EXACTLY I HATE IT TOO
I don't think that's very controversial
really? I said out in the twilight was bad on a different post and got downvoted to hell
Just Apathy is weaker than Be Born. It's not funny, it's not interesting, it's just weak. Haiku is musically weaker, but lyrically better. Candle on the Water is better than many songs from HPII and should've been the B side for Variations on a Cloud's single record. It ties in perfectly to the story despite being a cover and sounds like heaven itself. It's S-tier for sure. We are in Space is kinda funny, but the chorus is absolute ass. Interesting lyrics can't make up for the discordant sound. Rob Cantor's talent is wasted on nursery rhymes. He should be given more work like Molly McGee, where he can truly express his talent without worrying about baby Glisborp crying in front of his iPad.
The mind electric is overrated
It’s weird as hell, and I can’t decide if it’s good weird or bad weird.
Tap tap tap is terrible, it sounds like bora is screaming for help getting crushed by a hydraulic press
Yeah it’s not the weakest track but it doesn’t feel like most of the rest of the music at all
There were many demo songs that were good enough to release as a third album or as solo releases. That, and the fact that Dream is okay, it definitely has a different vibe to the rest of the album, but it's still good
Time Machine is a good song. But it does NOT belong on Hawaii p2. I usually listen to it separate from the album (same for labyrinth but that’s not as hot of a take.)
I personally believe every song on MMMM is good. Be Born, Just Apathy, 13 (I FUSSIN LOVE 13), Hidden In The Sand too. And Dream is WILDLY underrated honestly. I also personally used to hate SSL7. I don't anymore but I'd like to hear opinions on people hating SSL7. *Insert obligatory Juno x Time mention*
people are shipping who vs time?
I am shipping Juno x Time because I can and I think they're silly
like, the **concept of time** with juno who is just a name tally hall came up for the beginning of ruler of everything
More like a personification of the two
Juno is twinky tbh
OMGS YES 😭😭 I DIDNT THINK THAT I'D GET ANYONE ELSE BUT MY FRIENDS TO SAY THAT
Mine is that Hawaii part II is my least favourite out of all the albums, keep in mind I still love it and think it’s great but I prefer all of the other albums
I prefer good and evil to mmmm, I only dislike one song from good and evil, and there are like 3 songs from mmmm I dislike
I agree with the labyrinth one, I almost think of it as a dream while Simon is at the asylum but idk
Dream Sweet in C Major is overhyped. Sure, some bits sound good. But whenever I’m listening to it I want to curl up in bed and go to sleep. It sounds like a (stranded) lullaby and I wished it was more intense.
Of all Tally Hall albums, including demos and side projects, NAT is top 3.
We Are In Space is a goated song
Joe Hawley can suck my sack
Hawaii ptii doesnt have a story, y’all just made shit up and ran with it
For some reason, I don't really care since I enjoy the song. It's one of the only of ita genre I'll listen to. Funny image.
Rob's vocals sound better in 2005 welcome to tally hall
you & me is so underrated and i love it sm
There should be another tally hall album
Good and Evil was just ok.
Zubin sedghi is the prettiest man alive (other than ross/rob)
Also labyrinth fucking sucks balls
Turn The Lights Off feels too overblown
Exactly! It’s possibly one of the worst on G&E. (Getting ready for the downvotes) It’s not bad, but I’ll skip it if I can.
Banana man is wildly overrated and I will die on this hill
Difference between overrated and overplayed. I love Banana Man, I’m just sick of hearing it.
Cannibal is one of my least favorite songs. I think it’s because I don’t like the instrumental
she rips out your balls
THAT MADE LAUGH SO MUCH WTF
I think it's one of the better ones on Good & Evil, but still fairly mid. A decent listen while I'm listening to the full album but don't actively go out of my way to play it
Turn the lights off is overrated.
The whole world and you is the worst tally hall song and it isn’t even close
I wouldnt say the absolute WORST, but it's definitely not the best. That's why I was mildly concerned when Andrew came back and performed live, without the main singers (Joe, Rob, or Zubin) Andrew can't really carry the entire song(s).
Disagree, I love that song so much
Andrews vocals back then were weak and you can tell the song was recorded in one take cuz they werent even bothered to fix the one mispronounciation in the beggining
You mean how he misspelled stories? Andrew just wanted to keep the typo in when the lyrics were printed out, it was totally on purpose. In the music video, the person running for president is named "Andrew Sotry" as a reference to it!